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Model Specific Forums => Gemini PDA => Gemini PDA - General Discussion => Topic started by: Varti on January 05, 2018, 09:16:06 am
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Is anybody here planning to visit the show?
https://ces18.mapyourshow.com/7_0/exhibitor...?ExhID=T0008202 (https://ces18.mapyourshow.com/7_0/exhibitor/exhibitor-details.cfm?ExhID=T0008202)
Varti
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Hope so! If I could I would!
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Most comprehensive article prior to actual availability
https://jmcomms.com/2017/11/29/gemini-pda-2...psion-series-5/ (https://jmcomms.com/2017/11/29/gemini-pda-20-years-on-meet-the-all-new-psion-series-5/)
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The BBC have a video up looking at the Gemini (although I can’t get the video to load at the moment!). Here’s the link-perhaps you’ll have more success: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42...ndroid-makeover (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42580084/ces-2018-psion-pda-gets-android-makeover)
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Most comprehensive article prior to actual availability
https://jmcomms.com/2017/11/29/gemini-pda-2...psion-series-5/ (https://jmcomms.com/2017/11/29/gemini-pda-20-years-on-meet-the-all-new-psion-series-5/)
I'm trying to figure this out:
"In Linux mode, you get a higher DPI setting to fit more information on the screen, which especially pays off when hooked up to a monitor. The Android mode will simply output a mirrored screen image, although I was told they might look at offering a different display output in a future software update."
What is the distinction here? (And does this mean that on the Android side the 2160x1080 would be squsihed to, say, 1920x1080?) I'm trying to sort out how it would handle the aspect ratio change from its native 2:1 to 16:9 or, on a monitor I'm likely to use with it, 1920x1280. I've seen a video in which the HDMI output is tested (here: https://vimeo.com/237116357 (https://vimeo.com/237116357)), which looks as if it's picture-framing it on all sides, from an Android boot.
And I hope the music chosen for the Planet videos isn't indicative of the quality of the device! (Plus, wouldn't you rather hear them saying, "Hey! Look at that! It actually works! Who would have guessed!")
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The BBC have a video up looking at the Gemini (although I can’t get the video to load at the moment!). Here’s the link-perhaps you’ll have more success: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42...ndroid-makeover (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42580084/ces-2018-psion-pda-gets-android-makeover)
Video available now.
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The BBC have a video up looking at the Gemini (although I can’t get the video to load at the moment!). Here’s the link-perhaps you’ll have more success: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42...ndroid-makeover (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-42580084/ces-2018-psion-pda-gets-android-makeover)
Video available now.
That video must be quite old when taken because that is the old prototype model the new one has a much darker polished finish oldest being at the bottom and newest on the top in the picture.
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Latest review by The Register
https://www.theregister.co.uk/AMP/2017/12/2...impression=true (https://www.theregister.co.uk/AMP/2017/12/22/gemini_special/?__twitter_impression=true)
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Pocket Lint review
https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/reviews/...meback-of-sorts (https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/reviews/143148-planet-gemini-pda-initial-review-the-psion-organiser-makes-a-comeback-of-sorts)
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Here is the schedule https://www.ces.tech/Logistics/Dates-and-Hours (https://www.ces.tech/Logistics/Dates-and-Hours)
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Pocket Lint review
https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/reviews/...meback-of-sorts (https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/reviews/143148-planet-gemini-pda-initial-review-the-psion-organiser-makes-a-comeback-of-sorts)
Wow. There is apparently at least one production copy! (Am trying to temper my enthusiasm with thoughts of the three or four days I'll spend configuring mine so that it is exactly how I want it to be, and the likely discovery that at least one or two things I plan to do can't e done.)
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I think that t get through FCC, CE and other testing for EMC etc it is necessary to test a final production version. Much work can be done with prototypes doing pre-compliance tests to give your later production version the best chance of success but the actual conformity test will need a production ready version.
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Two things stand out from the pocketlint article for me -
1. The dimensions they state seem to be bigger then advertised on the indigo campaign page
2. The battery is now sized at 4000mah
Can we assume that it was just a hastily written article?
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Euro Tech news includes reference to price increase by $200 after campaign
http://eurotechnews.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11...ion-as.html?m=1 (http://eurotechnews.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/the-gemini-pda-its-as-close-to-psion-as.html?m=1)
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"It starts shipping soon - this month actually - in January 2018"
Liliputing video feature on Gemini stand at CES. Also includes some shots of the USB C Hub which looks to have 2 x USB A, 1 x USB C (wonder if it does pass through power?) and Ethernet port. The video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu...p;v=vcBVFgrRcHk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=vcBVFgrRcHk)
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Lots more CES coverage - there are some interesting and reflective takes on the Gemini. Journos doing their proper thing.
Slashgear: https://www.slashgear.com/planet-computers-...eboot-07514066/ (https://www.slashgear.com/planet-computers-gemini-hands-on-nostalgias-android-reboot-07514066/)
CNET: https://www.cnet.com/news/psion-the-90s-are...droid-ces-2018/ (https://www.cnet.com/news/psion-the-90s-are-back-this-clamshell-pda-is-pure-android-ces-2018/)
TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/07/the-pda-r...d-is-new-again/ (https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/07/the-pda-returns-to-ces-because-everything-old-is-new-again/)
Verge: https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/7/16861596/...nds-on-ces-2018 (https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/7/16861596/planet-computers-gemini-tiny-laptop-hands-on-ces-2018)
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https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/7/16861596/...nds-on-ces-2018 (https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/7/16861596/planet-computers-gemini-tiny-laptop-hands-on-ces-2018)
"Planet Computers' Gemini is a tiny Android laptop with the spirit of Psion"
not really much to say
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https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/07/the-pda-r...d-is-new-again/ (https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/07/the-pda-returns-to-ces-because-everything-old-is-new-again/)
"The PDA returns to CES, because everything old is new again"
"having played around with the final version of the product this year at CES, it’s a much more fully realized product than most. As you’d expect, the keyboard is cramped, and takes a fair amount of adjustment to reacquaint yourself, but it’s a full QWERTY, and a lot closer to the laptop experience than just about any other similar product I’ve taken for a spin in the space.
It’s a surprisingly solid bit of hardware for what it is. The company employed the services of a China-based OEM and they looked to have deliver a pretty well-round handset for its price. The phone itself sports a 5.9-inch screen and runs Android 7.1.1 (you can boot into Linux, as well). What’s particularly interesting here (beyond the obvious bit) is that the device will ship in both WiFi and 4G models, harkening back to a time when people could still squeeze some use out of a gadget without cellular functionality."
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I think this has not been mentioned yet:
https://liliputing.com/2018/01/hands-gemini...ch-display.html (https://liliputing.com/2018/01/hands-gemini-pda-handheld-pc-android-linux-6-inch-display.html)
On this leaflet, it is mentioned that additional keyboard layouts are still planned:
https://liliputing-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/...1/gemini_22.jpg (https://liliputing-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/gemini_22.jpg)
Varti
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It's encouraging to see a review-ish piece that concentrates on the Gemini as a Linux machine. Pretty pleasing, actually, to read what was said.
I'm thinking that it may be helpful to some of us who will be primarily on the Linux side to look into the accessibility options available in our desktop of choice. Some of them are really good at keyboard navigation in lieu of mouse, and I really look forward to seeing what can be cooked up (and presumably shared here).
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@speculatrix and all the others
If you agree, I'd consolidate for convenience all the reviews from the CES show into the first post of this thread (including links mentioned elsewhere, like [a href=\'index.php?act=findpost&pid=283686\']here[/a], and promote it as a news item for visibility.
Varti
I'm very happy to consolidate them
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Charbax at CES
https://youtu.be/zQLawxkYyug (https://youtu.be/zQLawxkYyug)
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Charbax at CES
https://youtu.be/zQLawxkYyug (https://youtu.be/zQLawxkYyug)
hmm, "unique HDMI cable", at 9m50s
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Charbax at CES
https://youtu.be/zQLawxkYyug (https://youtu.be/zQLawxkYyug)
From the comments, It sounds as if the Linux installation ain't soup yet. Actually, it sounds as if several things ain't soup yet.
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Here are my collection of videos I have rounded up from YouTube for Gemini pda.From bloggers all around the world from the world CES 2018 show.
Gemini Pda: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm0b...qwlwp8VfoI52yaX (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm0bBqIyoL4ZEVvD9Dqwlwp8VfoI52yaX)
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Here are my collection of videos I have rounded up from YouTube for Gemini pda.From bloggers all around the world from the world CES 2018 show.
Gemini Pda: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm0b...qwlwp8VfoI52yaX (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm0bBqIyoL4ZEVvD9Dqwlwp8VfoI52yaX)
Nice round-up, especially for those non-english ones which aren't that easy to find.
Varti
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From the comments, It sounds as if the Linux installation ain't soup yet. Actually, it sounds as if several things ain't soup yet.
[OT] I have noticed that your post contained an additional garbage character (0xC2) before both single quote characters, I have now fixed that. It seems that you have used a "right single quote" or "curly quote" (which should be 0x92, but I'm trying to figure out on which charset is that), I'm trying to find out if there's any way to prevent the quote to be converted that way. I have seen this happening here also in older posts btw.[/OT]
Varti
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From the comments, It sounds as if the Linux installation ain't soup yet. Actually, it sounds as if several things ain't soup yet.
[OT] I have noticed that your post contained an additional garbage character (0xC2) before both single quote characters, I have now fixed that. It seems that you have used a "right single quote" or "curly quote" (which should be 0x92, but I'm trying to figure out on which charset is that), I'm trying to find out if there's any way to prevent the quote to be converted that way. I have seen this happening here also in older posts btw.[/OT]
Varti
Hmmm. Weird. I think I'm using the standard US English charset. What can I do on my end to prevent this? It's not showing up in preview, which means either that you fixed it or that there's some intermittency.
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Getting some consumer press here, including a widely broadcast syndicated radio program:
Clark Howard story and audio (http://clark.com/technology/ces-2018-gemini-planet-computers-pda-phone-keyboard/)
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https://youtu.be/OwhH_Xbup0U (https://youtu.be/OwhH_Xbup0U)
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PC Mag review
http://uk.pcmag.com/news/92835/the-gemini-...the-handheld-pc (http://uk.pcmag.com/news/92835/the-gemini-pda-brings-back-the-handheld-pc)
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https://youtu.be/OwhH_Xbup0U (https://youtu.be/OwhH_Xbup0U)
Intersting - in this vid the journalist says "They told me it would last a couple of days with 'normal' usage." Encouraging but I suppose it depends what you consider 'normal' use is for a Gemini PDA.
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Vote Gemini PDA
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/10/vote-be...peoples-choice/ (https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/10/vote-best-of-ces-2018-peoples-choice/)
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Vote Gemini PDA
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/10/vote-be...peoples-choice/ (https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/10/vote-best-of-ces-2018-peoples-choice/)
It was also mentioned in the latest indiegogo update, but it was already too late, the poll's now closed. I didn't manage to vote in time, IMHO they should have waited more time before closing it.
Varti
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Mr Mobile in another YouTube video praising the Gemini see from 2.09 and again at 4.02
https://youtu.be/nrxOIZL743g (https://youtu.be/nrxOIZL743g)
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Vote Gemini PDA
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/10/vote-be...peoples-choice/ (https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/10/vote-best-of-ces-2018-peoples-choice/)
It was also mentioned in the latest indiegogo update, but it was already too late, the poll's now closed. I didn't manage to vote in time, IMHO they should have waited more time before closing it.
Varti
I got my vote in time...
Mark
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CES 2018 review from Pocketnow mention Gemini
https://youtu.be/voIUmvpFXfg (https://youtu.be/voIUmvpFXfg)
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Another mention of the Gemini at 20:40 minutes
https://youtu.be/rGHbr4CAXz4 (https://youtu.be/rGHbr4CAXz4)
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Mobile Geeks in English
https://youtu.be/GgFbm5b7YBA (https://youtu.be/GgFbm5b7YBA)
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Mobile Geeks in English
https://youtu.be/GgFbm5b7YBA (https://youtu.be/GgFbm5b7YBA)
Thanks for the links!
Varti