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Model Specific Forums => Gemini PDA => Gemini PDA - Android => Topic started by: Kisuke-CZE on June 04, 2018, 08:51:12 am
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Hi,
I just received an OTA update on my Gemini. So tried to install it and it failed somehow.
Beware and do some proper backup before that! In my case it killed my Gemini unit! It is now stucked on boot animation.
I just wrote to Planet for info and will try probably reflash few hours later. (Which will be pain, because I will have to set whole android and all apps again)
Just wanted to warn other users. That's why I am posting this.
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Hello and Thank you for sharing this, I will heed this as well. I also posted recently re: my Gemini being stuck in a boot animation. Mine happened as I was getting some erratic behavior, getting error message "MediaTek has stopped working" -- I will not try to restart again when that happens as it has frozen my Gemini.
Any advice on few backup options? Cloud-based, App-based? Other? Thank you :-)
Hi,
I just received an OTA update on my Gemini. So tried to install it and it failed somehow.
Beware and do some proper backup before that! In my case it killed my Gemini unit! It is now stucked on boot animation.
I just wrote to Planet for info and will try probably reflash few hours later. (Which will be pain, because I will have to set whole android and all apps again)
Just wanted to warn other users. That's why I am posting this.
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This is concerning.
Any quick tips on how to disable Over-The-Air updates so we don't get bricked? (Or can you simply refuse to install it?)
Appreciate any replies on this.
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This is concerning.
Any quick tips on how to disable Over-The-Air updates so we don't get bricked? (Or can you simply refuse to install it?)
Appreciate any replies on this.
Just dismiss the notification when it comes up. That's all.
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Any advice on few backup options? Cloud-based, App-based? Other? Thank you :-)
Unfortunately I do not know any way on Android how to do proper backup (for me that means system and apps settings) if you do not have root.
Maybe this: http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-b...up-without-root (http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-backup-kb/titanium-backup-howtos.html#backup-without-root)
But you need rooted Android to make restore...
If you have rooted image, then TitaniumBackup is definitely a way to go.
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I had the same issue. Installed the OTA update on a pristine Android, and it gave me the endless boot animation. Had to reflash Android, so starting from scratch now, which is a drag
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I just did the OTA update - not a problem. Not sure the difference but mine worked fine.
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This is concerning.
Any quick tips on how to disable Over-The-Air updates so we don't get bricked? (Or can you simply refuse to install it?)
Appreciate any replies on this.
Not much concerning. In the end it is your choice if you will apply the update or not. And there all at least 2 warning screens before you apply that OTA. Well but in my case curiosity was stronger...
Just wait till there will be some info from Planet. They might have some solution whithout need to reflash. (I can imagine update.zip on sdcard might solve this - I can still boot into recovery and select to apply update from sdcard)
Just for info. I have X27 Gemini. Anyone with working OTA can tell if he has X25 or X27?
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Update OK for me, X25.
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Got an e-mail from Indigo:
posted by Davide Guidi
Jun 4, 2018 • 7:22AM PDT
Urgent message!
Please don't update your Gemini unit until further notice. We have found issues with the latest over-the-air update and we are investigating.
Best regards,
Team Gemini
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Any advice on few backup options? Cloud-based, App-based? Other? Thank you :-)
Unfortunately I do not know any way on Android how to do proper backup (for me that means system and apps settings) if you do not have root.
Maybe this: http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-b...up-without-root (http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-backup-kb/titanium-backup-howtos.html#backup-without-root)
But you need rooted Android to make restore...
If you have rooted image, then TitaniumBackup is definitely a way to go.
Hi -- THANKS! Just for me, coming from Apple where the backup is so simple via iOS and with no worries. I know with Android, everything is app-based, not so much Google-based as far as similar to having a ClusterFracas-free backup/restore functionality. I am hopeful to find that similar/easy to use system on Android. I don't use the root methods, perhaps I am over-thinking, but just don't have the time to tinker like I used to in the old days, before kids :-)
I am still stuck in BOOT-LOOP mode for now as I am pondering doing a Hard-reset.
Thoughts?
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This is concerning.
Any quick tips on how to disable Over-The-Air updates so we don't get bricked? (Or can you simply refuse to install it?)
Appreciate any replies on this.
Are you rooted? If so, just download TitaniumBackup or another similar program and freeze the system app called WirelessUpdate 4.5.3
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Maybe it is an x25/x27 thing. I updated straight away and all is fine. I have an original (serial number < 10) x25 gemini.
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Broke mine as well (64xx), but was able to flash a new image without much issue
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I just did the OTA update - not a problem. Not sure the difference but mine worked fine.
From what I read, one of the fixes was the LEDison app which allows you to assign light sequences to contacts. I'm guessing the update was in the apk and not at the firmware level.
Could you extract and upload that for the rest of us?
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No update to this issue yet...?
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Seriously... does anyone know if it is safe to update yet?
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It would help if people could post which version they are upgrading from/to and what configuration their Gemini PDA is in (i.e. single boot, dual boot, root/or_not, default bootloader/or_not)?
That would help others know what to avoid and which configurations might be affected.
Neither of mine are showing any available OTA updates, I am on:
Device 1:
Gemini-7.1-Planet-10052018-V2
Default bootloader / single boot / unrooted
And Device 2:
Gemini-7.1-Planet-30012018-V1
TWRP / dual boot with Sailfish / unrooted
What is the version of Android to avoid?
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Here (http://support.planetcom.co.uk/index.php/Restoring_Gemini_4G_x27_firmware) there is info and how to solve with X25 and X27 devices.
Hope this helps.
Salvo
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Here (http://support.planetcom.co.uk/index.php/Restoring_Gemini_4G_x27_firmware) there is info and how to solve with X25 and X27 devices.
Hope this helps.
Salvo
That is good to have here - the method to fix a device if it gets messed up.
However, what I'm more wondering is: Is the updating system itself fixed and ready for us who -have not upgraded- to all be able to update our firmware via the OTA updater?
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Here (http://support.planetcom.co.uk/index.php/Restoring_Gemini_4G_x27_firmware) there is info and how to solve with X25 and X27 devices.
Hope this helps.
Salvo
That is good to have here - the method to fix a device if it gets messed up.
However, what I'm more wondering is: Is the updating system itself fixed and ready for us who -have not upgraded- to all be able to update our firmware via the OTA updater?
There is no OTA available at this time for any Gemini afaik. The bad update was definitely pulled.
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On the Indiegogo Comments pages recently, Dr. E. stated that only the OTA firmware update is defective and has been pulled down.
Also, he stated the last firmware update download from the PC support page is safe, even though the Android stuff is a bit wonky.
PC is addressing both currently. And it all will be updated presently.
Dr. E. advised that we wait until they've fixed the updates (OTA and via PC support page) which will be announced soon.
So, on that advisement, I choose to wait (as we backers have become accustomed to doing).
Ifanafi
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Why, pray tell, is it that the latest flashtool firmware update isn't accessible via the firmware page on the Planet Computers website, but only accessible via the link earlier in this thread?
The link takes you to a page that you cannot otherwise access; it isn't part of the visible linked directory structure of the support site!
So, not knowing about this problem, after finally getting my Gemini working again and installing the single boot system with the old firmware, I installed the over the air update; which didn't brick me, except I think that's why it isn't detecting my SIM card.
O, yes, the over the air update was still there, contrary to what is mentioned earlier in this thread.
Now I'm downloading the updated firmware that isn't mentioned on their firmware page, and we'll see if that takes care of my SIM card being detected.
*sigh*
And, yes, I did test the SIM card on my old phone just to make sure it was working, and the SIM card is just fine. And it worked with the Gemini previously.
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Ah. So the "new" update is not to be used, even that provided by the new link. Which begs the question as to why that link is still listed and good...
Installing the old firmware hasn't taken care of my Gemini now not detecting my SIM card.
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Is the mentioned 22 June firmware update another SNAFU-FUBAR mistake to deploy?
It is to me.
Following the support page's fuzzy instructions for that update, the process failed but did turn my device into a silver-grey BRICK doorstop.
Can't restart or power it off.
What now; overnight it to PC?
Removed the SIM and SD card.
Waiting for the battery to drain to zero.
LOL...!
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June 22 update? I thought latest was June 12.
Jake
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Planet support page via Planet shows the aforementioned 22/6/2018 update.
Yet, the links therein show 12/6/2018 dated items.
I wonder if that update's (latest?) Build number is - Gemini-7.1-Planet-12062018-V2 [Settings>About phone>Build number]?
June 22 update? I thought latest was June 12.
Jake
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Huh. Doing the OTA thing, device says up to date as of June 12.
Fingers crossed that you see your way through this.
Jake
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Thank you.
Staying calm as I found the way back to Gemini restored.
How-to details will be posted here presently.
Huh. Doing the OTA thing, device says up to date as of June 12.
Fingers crossed that you see your way through this.
Jake