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Title: Handy tip
Post by: smapmap on September 11, 2018, 01:02:06 pm
If you go into developer mode and change the dpi to 600 or above a few cool things happen

1) Buttons on the right of the screen move to th bottom. Better experience hitting home and back button as its over the Gemini's centre of gravity
1) Apps like Gmail go into tablet mode. You get a reading pane instead of just a long list of emails.

Just make your font size bih enough to read!!
Title: Handy tip
Post by: gymbo on September 11, 2018, 04:03:36 pm
Quote from: smapmap
If you go into developer mode and change the dpi to 600 or above a few cool things happen

1) Buttons on the right of the screen move to th bottom. Better experience hitting home and back button as its over the Gemini's centre of gravity
1) Apps like Gmail go into tablet mode. You get a reading pane instead of just a long list of emails.

Just make your font sixe bit enough toread
Thanks for the tip, could be useful, but don't think I will sett it that high though (have it set at 530 at the moment and that is small enough I think).

But setting it to 600 and over made a strange thing happen too: It for instance REPORTS as 552 in the settings when setting it at 600...??? Might be something with my setup, but strange nevertheless...
Title: Handy tip
Post by: smapmap on September 12, 2018, 04:06:35 am
Quote from: gymbo
Quote from: smapmap
If you go into developer mode and change the dpi to 600 or above a few cool things happen

1) Buttons on the right of the screen move to th bottom. Better experience hitting home and back button as its over the Gemini's centre of gravity
1) Apps like Gmail go into tablet mode. You get a reading pane instead of just a long list of emails.

Just make your font sixe bit enough toread
Thanks for the tip, could be useful, but don't think I will sett it that high though (have it set at 530 at the moment and that is small enough I think).

But setting it to 600 and over made a strange thing happen too: It for instance REPORTS as 552 in the settings when setting it at 600...??? Might be something with my setup, but strange nevertheless...

Mine appears as 594 which is strange! Haven't had any issues so far thankfully!
Title: Handy tip
Post by: Tom D on September 13, 2018, 10:05:50 am
That really does make the Gemini useable under Android. Before changing this (I chose 600 and medium fonts), pictures were always larger than the screen height. It made scrolling through FB, Feedspot, Reddit or any graphically heavy site very uncomfortable. Now pictures size appropriately and many apps change to tablet mode, giving an improved interface. I also like the controls (Home. Back and Running Apps) at the bottom of the screen. All in all, it is a vastly improved device now. Thanks!
Title: Handy tip
Post by: greguu on September 14, 2018, 04:37:01 am
While improving things, there are also several apps that do cause issues with this setting being enabled.Google Hangouts was one of them, causing issues with displaying video and more.
Gmail did actually work pretty well, allowing a side pane to be displayed.
Apart from that, you will find that the left bottom "menu arrow button" does not respond anymore if you change it to 600dpi.
Title: Handy tip
Post by: Jos on September 15, 2018, 10:29:42 am
Quote from: greguu
Apart from that, you will find that the left bottom "menu arrow button" does not respond anymore if you change it to 600dpi.

So is there a workarround for the arrow button? I sure need that button or any other way to see all my apps. But i do like the 600dpi screen. Many of my frequent used apps perform way better.
Btw normaly i swipe up, but thats not working aswell.
Title: Handy tip
Post by: Dixit on September 15, 2018, 01:38:07 pm
I  am a former Psioneer and I purchased the Gemini, because it is as close to a 5mx as anything  will ever come.
So now I am an Android user (it came with the Gemini). I am sure there are more like me.

Could you give a step by step description to use noobs how this switch is to be done ?
Does that need a rooted Android ?
Title: Handy tip
Post by: DJO on September 15, 2018, 03:44:52 pm
Quote from: Jos
So is there a workaround for the arrow button?

Switch to portrait.
Title: Handy tip
Post by: DJO on September 15, 2018, 03:51:55 pm
Quote from: Dixit
Could you give a step by step description to use noobs how this switch is to be done ?
Does that need a rooted Android ?

Rooting is not necessary.

First you need to enable "Developer Mode" - Open settings and scroll down to "About Phone", open that and scroll down to "Build Number" and tap (I think) 7 times.

Now you have a new option in settings "Developer Options", open that and scroll down to "Smallest Width" and adjust as you will.

You may also want to open the "Display" option and fiddle with "Font Size" & "Display Size" - beware changing these can alter the Smallest Width setting, also that setting seems to pick a value near to the one you set rather than the actual value you entered.
Title: Handy tip
Post by: Dixit on September 16, 2018, 03:17:35 am
Thanks for the instructions ! That was surprisingly simple.
Indeed, funny to see how some Apps suddenly size adequately.

Forgot to note the standard value. Was it 360 ?
Title: Handy tip
Post by: smapmap on September 17, 2018, 03:55:16 am
Quote from: Jos
Quote from: greguu
Apart from that, you will find that the left bottom "menu arrow button" does not respond anymore if you change it to 600dpi.

So is there a workarround for the arrow button? I sure need that button or any other way to see all my apps. But i do like the 600dpi screen. Many of my frequent used apps perform way better.
Btw normaly i swipe up, but thats not working aswell.

My left arrow works fine on mine?
Title: Handy tip
Post by: Dixit on September 18, 2018, 03:50:21 am
Quote from: smapmap
Quote from: Jos
Quote from: greguu
Apart from that, you will find that the left bottom "menu arrow button" does not respond anymore if you change it to 600dpi.

So is there a workarround for the arrow button? I sure need that button or any other way to see all my apps. But i do like the 600dpi screen. Many of my frequent used apps perform way better.
Btw normaly i swipe up, but thats not working aswell.

My left arrow works fine on mine?

Mine as well. That's strange. Chubby fingers ? 😃

It remains surprising to see how the (Google) apps entirely change their appearance.
Try Google Maps, for example.
It does have inconveniences. With Google Maps I suddenly loose the 'bicycle' symbol as to select a route for bikes.
Title: Handy tip
Post by: smapmap on September 18, 2018, 09:45:09 am
Quote from: Dixit
Quote from: smapmap
Quote from: Jos
Quote from: greguu
Apart from that, you will find that the left bottom "menu arrow button" does not respond anymore if you change it to 600dpi.

So is there a workarround for the arrow button? I sure need that button or any other way to see all my apps. But i do like the 600dpi screen. Many of my frequent used apps perform way better.
Btw normaly i swipe up, but thats not working aswell.

My left arrow works fine on mine?

Mine as well. That's strange. Chubby fingers ? 😃

It remains surprising to see how the (Google) apps entirely change their appearance.
Try Google Maps, for example.
It does have inconveniences. With Google Maps I suddenly loose the 'bicycle' symbol as to select a route for bikes.

yeah me too - no sign of bike route here either. I've been using my Gemini in this configuration for a while now. I reckon of Planet could sort out some of these quibbles this might be the best set up for the Gemini. The fact the home and back buttons are at the bottom of the screen makes interacting with it much more satisfying as you don't get screen wobble. Wonder when the next firmware is out?
Title: Handy tip
Post by: gidds on September 20, 2018, 12:47:07 pm
Doesn't setting the DPI so high make everything hard to see?
Title: Handy tip
Post by: a1astair on September 22, 2018, 05:08:06 pm
Quote from: Jos
Quote from: greguu
Apart from that, you will find that the left bottom "menu arrow button" does not respond anymore if you change it to 600dpi.

So is there a workarround for the arrow button? I sure need that button or any other way to see all my apps. But i do like the 600dpi screen. Many of my frequent used apps perform way better.
Btw normaly i swipe up, but thats not working aswell.

I have installed Google Now Launcher and you get a dedicated button on your desktop to open the apps drawer.

This appears to be better suited to the Gemini than the standard launcher.
Title: Handy tip
Post by: smapmap on September 23, 2018, 06:17:51 am
Quote from: gidds
Doesn't setting the DPI so high make everything hard to see?
You can increase the font size in the settings
Title: Handy tip
Post by: gidds on September 23, 2018, 05:40:57 pm
Quote from: smapmap
You can increase the font size in the settings
Text isn't everything, though.  Doesn't it also make icons smaller, buttons and other widgets harder to aim for, and everything generally harder to see?

(Remember that not all Gemini users are young…)
Title: Handy tip
Post by: smapmap on September 24, 2018, 05:52:52 am
Quote from: gidds
Quote from: smapmap
You can increase the font size in the settings
Text isn't everything, though.  Doesn't it also make icons smaller, buttons and other widgets harder to aim for, and everything generally harder to see?

(Remember that not all Gemini users are young…)

If you use a Launcher like Nova you change icon size, text etc to suit. I haven't noticed any UI elements being unreadable to be honest but I guess it depends on how bad your eyesight is . The good thing is you can try it and if it doesn't work for you, you can always  g0 back to the original setting.
Title: Handy tip
Post by: Murple2 on September 24, 2018, 08:02:25 am
Quote from: gidds
Quote from: smapmap
You can increase the font size in the settings
Text isn't everything, though.  Doesn't it also make icons smaller, buttons and other widgets harder to aim for, and everything generally harder to see?

(Remember that not all Gemini users are young…)

I've set the dpi to around 600 and it's been ok. the accuracy of the touchscreen is pretty good so i've not found any problems aiming for things. Sure, i've probably halfed the years of good eye sight I have left but it's better to burn brighter etc etc
Title: Handy tip
Post by: smapmap on September 24, 2018, 10:59:47 am
Quote from: Murple2
Quote from: gidds
Quote from: smapmap
You can increase the font size in the settings
Text isn't everything, though.  Doesn't it also make icons smaller, buttons and other widgets harder to aim for, and everything generally harder to see?

(Remember that not all Gemini users are young…)

I've set the dpi to around 600 and it's been ok. the accuracy of the touchscreen is pretty good so i've not found any problems aiming for things. Sure, i've probably halfed the years of good eye sight I have left but it's better to burn brighter etc etc
Title: Handy tip
Post by: gymbo on September 24, 2018, 07:26:02 pm
Quote from: Murple2
Quote from: gidds
Quote from: smapmap
You can increase the font size in the settings
Text isn't everything, though.  Doesn't it also make icons smaller, buttons and other widgets harder to aim for, and everything generally harder to see?

(Remember that not all Gemini users are young…)

I've set the dpi to around 600 and it's been ok. the accuracy of the touchscreen is pretty good so i've not found any problems aiming for things. Sure, i've probably halfed the years of good eye sight I have left but it's better to burn brighter etc etc
I do believe I have "landed" on a setting of dpi=550. It moves the "back", "desktop" and "stop/splitscreen" buttons to the side of the screen again. (I really don't see any advantage of having them at the bottom of the screen, unless you want them "out of the way": Anything requiring use of the bottom of the screen is awkward because of the keyboard...) It is also the highest setting that allows "Agenda" to work properly. (You can make NEW appointments, and copy/paste existing ones, but you cant edit existing ones with higher setting...) And it still gives me proper "desktop-version" of some sites that didn't on my previous setting of 530.
Title: Handy tip
Post by: DJO on September 25, 2018, 12:52:26 pm
Quote from: gymbo
I do believe I have "landed" on a setting of dpi=550.

I ended up on roughly the same more because I didn't like the amount of vertical space lost to the Android navigation buttons when they were at the bottom.
Title: Handy tip
Post by: Tom D on September 25, 2018, 03:51:31 pm
Quote from: gidds
Doesn't setting the DPI so high make everything hard to see?
After setting the DPI, increase the fonts size. This strikes a good balance for me.