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Model Specific Forums => Cosmo Communicator => Cosmo Communicator - General Discussion => Topic started by: vader on November 18, 2019, 10:40:09 pm
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I looked for one - I seem to remember we had a "My Gemini Has Arrived" thread. After the "scam" thread, and with so many waiting, maybe people can be more confident that theirs is on the way be seeing how many have been delivered.
So:
order 9xx, Japanese motherboard (for Australian LTE frequencies), US keyboard and power supply.
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Ok, the postman was nice to me and delivered my Cosmo . No. 126 (German keyboard, EC power supply) reached its destination. It's up and running now and I love the keyboard backlight. After some time (rooting etc.) it will substitute my Gemini. Great phone/computer/communicator, I love it. Best buy since Gemini
Bye for now
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Postman delivered my Cosmo yesterday (#76, UK Keyboard, UK Charger) and I have to say I am really impressed with it. Everything is more sturdy (couldn't believe how well the hinge held the screen in position the first time I opened it, showed what I had become used to with the Gemini), the keyboard is excellent, a big improvement over the Gemini. Now to start properly setting it up with the apps and settings I was using on the Gemini...
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Mine (UK) arrived today! \o/
(About half an hour before the email from Indiegogo saying that it's shipped…)
The hinge is indeed a lot sturdier (and so the unit is more stable when open), and the keyboard seems a bit better (if noisier). (But I won't be able to put it through its paces until I can root it and start transferring stuff from my Gemini.)
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Mine turned up two days ago, NZ rural, ID#3359, EUSA radios, UK keyboard, EU charger, very shiny.
Well worth the wait, it's a beautiful thing.
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Mine turned up two days ago
Nice to hear that everything went well, you had that "home made delivery problem"
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Nice to hear that everything went well, you had that "home made delivery problem"
Thanks Maki.Jouni, the 'home made delivery problem' was all my own fault, but despite my very best efforts to completely stuff things up, Planet still delivered, and I'm loving my new Cosmo. Even though you folk with more 'exclusive' keyboards may have to wait a little longer, from my few days of experience I can reassure you that it will be worth the wait.
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Mine (UK) arrived today! \o/
I'm presuming you've got the standard radios? You haven't mentioned what range your contribution was in.
So far we've got:
Japan radios:
09xx: Nov 28
Standard (Europe/T-Mobile US) radios:
0076: Nov 25
0126: Nov 25
3359: Dec 28
No information on ones with the Verizon radios, though we know a few people on here have them.
I haven't gotten mine yet, but with the trend so far being in the 56xx range suggests middle or end of January.
While the keyboard layout makes a difference, that is minor compared to the choice of radios. You could potentially put a Deutsch, Japanese, UK or US keyboard layout on any device. Different radio frequencies require changing the motherboard.
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My cosmo has just arrived at my house.
Us keyboard Eu charger.
Located in the netherlands.
Ordered 17-7-2019.
Device looks and feels verrrrry good.
Have a great day ahead of me...
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This seems as good a thread as any for a first post; mine arrived the day after I's sent Planet a message saying I'd be heading off to my family's place for Christmas in a couple of days, so could it be sent there, and the day before I got the email saying it was in the post...
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Us keyboard Eu charger.
Located in the netherlands.
Ordered 17-7-2019.
I was attempting to generate an estimated mapping from Indiegogo order #s to arrival date. You ordered your's before me, but I don't have any idea how long before me. If yours was in the 54xx range then mine would be expected almost any day now, if you were in the 39xx range then I'll be waiting a bit longer.
The numbers were pointing at around 100 being dispatched per day, but New Year's will have an impact on that. Then comes the issue of whether production is ramping up or remaining at the same rate.
Sounds like some of the less common keyboard layouts are going to be slow. This surprises me since I wouldn't expect that to be a difficult part to produce the variants of. There would be a need to figure out how many of them to produce, the only difficulty would be if some of those were outright rare (which could mean higher price after the first production run).
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I was attempting to generate an estimated mapping from Indiegogo order #s to arrival date.
I'd claim there's no useful relation between Indiegogo backer id:s and delivery dates. The devices are neither built nor shipped in numerical order. For practical reasons, the factory prefers doing larger batches of things before smaller. This is why all japanese units (the most common variant) were made and delivered first, regardless of their backer id numbers.
The keys caps are laser etched, so from a manufacturing perspective, all keyboards should be the same, except for which design file is loaded into the laser etcher, but, again, the factory prefers to etch the more common variants first. It's probably a bit more efficient to load the etching machine to capacity with blanks and etch them all with the same patterns, compared to etching a few of this and a few of that, so probably, the less common variants requires a bit more time and manpower, and, for that reason, costs a bit more to make.
Once devices are built, they're going through quality checks. Some devices passes, while others will need smaller or bigger fixes. This adds further randomness to when anything gets finished. Also, how long actual shipping to each backer takes, will partially depend on local factors. If, say, PostNord, has problems, that might delay (some) deliveries in Sweden, but not in, say, Finland.
My own backer id is in the 600's but that doesn't matter. My keyboard layout is among the least common, so it wasn't eteched until all the more common ones were done. That's why I'm still wating for my Cosmo. It had been no different if my backer id had been 1.
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My own backer id is in the 600's but that doesn't matter. My keyboard layout is among the least common, so it wasn't eteched until all the more common ones were done. That's why I'm still wating for my Cosmo. It had been no different if my backer id had been 1.
Hmm, I think I have seen someone with ID over 1000 with FIN/SWE keyboard reporting that they have been locked (which again made me hopeful that "my" Cosmo with DEN/NOR keyboard should be just around the corner as well; my ID is somewhat over 2000)...
But how long can they really take to finish the last few hundred Cosmo's?? They OUGHT to be finished by now...
(Which again leads me to believe that their production now consists of one single person. So when they say that the production is running, it is literally THAT ONE PERSON running somewhere. And since he is running, he is unable to produce any Cosmo's... )
They have had the Digitime-issue to deal with lately, but that shouldn't interfere with their production?? I am reading the comments on IGG, and find that a lot of the complaints and accusations there are quite ludicrous, but AM now struggling with understanding why these last few units take so long time...
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Here are my details:
- Contribution ID 877, backed 5th November 2018
- UK keyboard/adapter
- Standard UK/EU radios
I'm not sure exactly when mine was locked, but I received separate dispatch emails from Planet and from Indiegogo 25th November 2019, along with a Royal Mail tracking number, and received my Cosmo the next morning.
The amount of delays and setbacks from the ODM is quite impressive, you'd think they would have figured things out after having built the Gemini where presumably they also had to deal with issues like different keyboard layouts. But no, they just keep on missing promised deadlines, and then you get these silly quality control issues, like people receiving devices without a SIM tray, or mine where they left a microSD card and a SIM card inside the tray...
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Hmm, I think I have seen someone with ID over 1000 with FIN/SWE keyboard reporting that they have been locked (which again made me hopeful that "my" Cosmo with DEN/NOR keyboard should be just around the corner as well; my ID is somewhat over 2000)...
But how long can they really take to finish the last few hundred Cosmo's?? They OUGHT to be finished by now...
Just to be clear, I've been "locked" on IGG since Christmas Day. What I'm still waiting for is actual delivery. Update #41 from Monday, January 6, says a few hundred Cosmos "are on their way to Europe". That shipment "mostly concerns" certain keyboard layouts, including Dvorak, DEN/NOR and SWE/FIN, so unless I've missed something, the devices for me, gymbo, maki jouni and others should be in that shipment, which, as that was eight days ago, should already be in Europe by now. What's holding them up, and what happened with the "more from us later this week", which now is last week, is anybodys guess at the moment.
Edit Jan 15: Update #42 confirms the shipment above has, after a delay, arrivied in Europe today, and should, once cleared by UK customs, be shipped to their final destinations ASAP.
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Got shipment notice today, FI/SE keyboard.
23 Jan 2020 18:30 East Grinstead We have your parcel and it's on its way to you
Says tracking, estimated arrival 30th of Jan (I guess they are sending over ground shipment).
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Well, today, on Thursday, January 23, my Cosmo (Swe/Fin keyboard, EU/US mainboard, EU Charger) finally arrived in what appears to be good order.
[Edit]: Mine was shipped via DPD from the UK via Germany and Denmark to northern (just barely) Sweden. DPD says they picked it up in the UK on Monday, January 20 at 6:45 PM and I got the "ready for pickup" SMS 65 hours and 46 minutes later. Pretty good, considering that DPD thought it would arrive on Monday, January 27.
So far, I've basically just turned it on, selected UI language and then keyboard layout, before going back to work. I have, per my habit, taken some photos of it, the packaging and it's content, from various angles, though I doubt they'd depict anything not already generally known or expected.
At this early stage I can really just add that, though being a tad thicker, the Cosmo fits my Gemini slipcase just fine. I'll keep it there until the Cosmo case comes. At some point, I intend to ask a local shoemaker to make me a simple wallet-style case, to protect the plastic ends of the device a bit better. Oh, and, when taking my photos, I noticed that not all of the slightly increased thickness is in the lid. The keyboard section seems to account for half a millimetre or so, probably to fit the light guide sheet for the keyboard backlight... which I realize I must check out right now...
Ooh, backlight... how I've been longing for it... mmm. Ok, so it's a bit uneven. I don't care. I've seen worse. It's entirely functional. It's gets the job done. No more counting keys in the dark. Yay. Well, now you will have to excuse me. I have a Cosmo to set up. Wish me luck.
[Edit]:After getting things set up well enough, on Sunday, February 9, I took the plunge, moved my main SIM card to the Cosmo and stopped carrying around my Gemini and my previous daily driver. So far so good. The camera isn't stellar, but I knew that, and there's a few things Planet will need to fix, but, well, the Cosmo is the first product that, in a (really sharp) pinch could conceivably be my only digital device.
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My Cosmo arrived today.
I had also ordered the "connectivity kit", but it's not yet fulfilled on Indiegogo.
Despite this, I got USB-C to HDMI cable included in the package. Not the USB-hub with Ethernet ports and whatnot, just the HDMI cable.
Did others also get the HDMI cable with their device (with or without the connectivity kit?)
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> Did others also get the HDMI cable with their device (with or without the connectivity kit?)
I backed the Connectivity Kit and received both the HDMI and the hub (both branded for Gemini) along with my Cosmo in late November.
I imagine they had a bunch of old stock that they included in the box until they eventually run out of stock. I imagine once they get new stock they'll ship them separately wherever they weren't able to include it with the original Cosmo shipment.
I also backed the vehicle mount thingy, but did not receive that yet. I don't imagine it is any different from the Gemini one. I wonder if anyone received a vehicle mount with their Cosmo?
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I had also ordered the "connectivity kit", but it's not yet fulfilled on Indiegogo.
Despite this, I got USB-C to HDMI cable included in the package. Not the USB-hub with Ethernet ports and whatnot, just the HDMI cable.
Same here, backed the all-in upgrade and the car mount. With my Cosmo I also only received the Gemini-branded USB-to-HDMI cable. Sent an email inquiring about this about two weeks ago and received this answer on January 16th:
"Anything that hasn't been shipped with your order will be shipped separately within 2 weeks from today. At the time we shipped everything that was in stock, as we didn't want to hold the Cosmo by stock limitations for the accessories."
So, based on the timeline trend set by Planet Computers on Indiegogo, I expect the rest of the stuff will arrive sometime in the next three months.
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I only now realize I haven't even posted in this thread! I received my Dvorak EU Cosmo last Thursday
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19xx polish keyboard, EU plug, arrived today, V15, codi updated to 1.1.12 after 4-5 tries, I guess the .13 one requires higher base android version? All keys seem to work fine which is a huge relief, yay
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All keys seem to work fine which is a huge relief, yay
Welp, spoke too soon, left shift key works only half of the time. Do you guys think it will get better with usage? Is there some safe DIY way to fix it? Really don't want to send the cosmo back as that's at least few weeks on top of the 14 month wait so far, just for one key
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All keys seem to work fine which is a huge relief, yay
Welp, spoke too soon, left shift key works only half of the time. Do you guys think it will get better with usage? Is there some safe DIY way to fix it? Really don't want to send the cosmo back as that's at least few weeks on top of the 14 month wait so far, just for one key
Mine had a sticky 'Alt' on the left, every time I opened my Cosmo up it kept getting its nose stuck under the blank bit with the LED in it to the left of the 'Q'. I also had a slightly dozy 'K' that required a slightly firmer poke.
I've had mine a month and the 'Alt' key is getting stuck only very occasionally, and I hardly notice the dozy 'K', so it's either settling in or I'm compensating.
There are a few discussions on here about the KB. I'd give it a bit of time, hopefully yours will settle in too.
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Hello,
at the bottom follows my exact farewells to IGG Cosmo forum. It finally was 'only' a 10 months waiting time for me. When chinese new year stroke - with the brexit and all, I just thought I don't wait for this thingy any more. Just see if my emails have something, some day... Then corona thing came, and I thought all hope is lost (not that the device is that important really). Just a week ago I asked an open question how things are. And received instant public answers from Planet. Very weird, not only for me, but to those backers too who still are waiting for the the device.
Well, what can I say, other than this:
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Got my Cosmo. After reading all the barking, I was afraid I would receive a ‘scam device’ with plastic parts popping out while SW unusable. My money taken… What did I get? A fine package with a well build device. Looks good, feels good. Suberb keyboard! Try to second that… Device is not bulky at all. Instead, just the right size so I can type with my right hand while device resting on my left palm. I’m a big guy of course, with big hands… Same W/H ratio as my Galaxy Note 8, thicker a bit.
All keys working with a suberb looks, touch and feel. Cosmo is smaller than in photos! Update cycle V15 --> V19 went quickly. CoDi too at 1st try: DL with wifi, Install with no SIM in, radios off, No-disturb on. Apparently I'll meet with some bugs. Those will be met. Anyone developing this kind of device IS serious. Not scam. All of you waiting will get your Cosmos, I think. Fine effort from Planet. My hope is that it gives them cash to support it and the the Gemini further. Bye to OESF. -iikka
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I thought before getting the thing, that I would do a self-made common pouch for the Cosmo and the Note 8. They are sized quite equally and everything... The Note 8 has a fantastic camera, in-built stylus with all the climpses. But I'm not that sure any more, their combined weight is quite huge. I will see to this. I like big handy things, I'm a big guy (195 cm / 130 kg) - aka Little-Ike - with big hands too. But there is a limit...
Now that I could find the post, where some of my fellow countrymen (was it Jouni Mäki...?) wrote about an app that would let me to change some letters of the keyboard. Ö and Ä namely, the latter is used more but put under the FN key...
I will not tweak this device much, until you more pro's open the paths. My goal is to have a well working Linux on it, and as an Jolla user a Sailfish version alongside.
-iikka
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Now that I could find the post, where some of my fellow countrymen (was it Jouni Mäki...?) wrote about an app that would let me to change some letters of the keyboard. Ö and Ä
Yep, it was me... Can't remember where is that exact post, but FinQwerty was that app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?....qwerty.finnish (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fi.onse.qwerty.finnish)
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Yep, it was me... Can't remember where is that exact post, but FinQwerty was that app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?....qwerty.finnish (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fi.onse.qwerty.finnish)
Thank you, Jouni. This is a great app, not only for fin/swe users (or Gemini/Cosmo users). Speeds me up at least 10 %, not that I'm in any hurry...
-iikka
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Well for others whom are urgently waiting, mine showed up last Friday so contribution #56xx took this long. A rather hefty delay due to COVID-19 there. Events like this do happen in life.
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It seems some bespoke keyboard units are really arriving. I almost can't believe I've received my PT-pt layout #35xx and it's in front of me!