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Everything Else => Zaurus Distro Support and Discussion => Distros, Development, and Model Specific Forums => Archived Forums => Sharp ROMs => Topic started by: ced on April 26, 2004, 11:54:30 am
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I\'ve done a proof of concept on installing/booting the cacko ROM (1.21) for the SL5600.
I\'m just wondering who is interested in this potential ROM?
Secondly, I\'m looking for maintainer(s) against the C series version... ;-)
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I am willing to host the files and help out testing.
Scott
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I\'m very interested and would help with testing.
Greg
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*bump*
Just 2 months ago many 5600 owners were complaining about lack of roms and software, some even wanted there own Forum. Will now ced would like to know if anyone is interested in running the cacko Rom 1.21 on your 5600. Are there only 3 of us interested?
Greg
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I\'m quite interested for my future 5600. But it will be a pxa-255 one, does this makes a difference for the ROM ? Should it have two releases of the ROM ?
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New 5600 owner here. I will definitely be interested in upgrading ROM / kernel sometime soon (but want to get my feet wet on the stock first) but I\'m still trying to sort out the bewildering variety of options and understand which options actually support the 5600.
A cacko for the 5600 would be excellent since it is one of the ones that seem to be well liked by those using it.
(Just to be sure I remember correctly, the cacko ROM is a Qt based system, right?)
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Count me as interested.
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I\'m quite interested for my future 5600. But it will be a pxa-255 one, does this makes a difference for the ROM ? Should it have two releases of the ROM ?
A single kernel should probably work on both CPUs.
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I would be interested in it. I could help with testing too.
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I\'d probably be interested in helping test it. Can you point me to info about Cacko ROM? I checked Cacko.biz, but they seem to be promoting pdaXrom exclusively.
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I\'d probably be interested in helping test it. Can you point me to info about Cacko ROM? I checked Cacko.biz, but they seem to be promoting pdaXrom exclusively.
Here:
http://www.zaurususergroup.com/index.php?n...iewtopic&t=3159 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3159)
Greg
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I\'d probably be interested in helping test it. Can you point me to info about Cacko ROM? I checked Cacko.biz, but they seem to be promoting pdaXrom exclusively.
Here:
http://www.zaurususergroup.com/index.php?n...iewtopic&t=3159 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3159)
Greg
No, that\'s not it. ced was talking about ROM for 5600, and it\'s not published anywhere.
What is realy needed is a maintainer. Once we have a maintainer, we\'ll need testers, but not the other way
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No, that\'s not it. ced was talking about ROM for 5600, and it\'s not published anywhere.
What is realy needed is a maintainer. Once we have a maintainer, we\'ll need testers, but not the other way
I understand that, but as I read it that is the rom he would like to install to the 5600.
I just started pricing DSL so that I could help more, it\'s very hard with dial-up 56k
Greg
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What is realy needed is a maintainer. Once we have a maintainer, we\'ll need testers, but not the other way
uh... ok, what will be required of the maintainer?
Scott
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What is realy needed is a maintainer. Once we have a maintainer, we\'ll need testers, but not the other way
uh... ok, what will be required of the maintainer?
Scott
To be able to maintain That is build it, troubleshoot, update it, etc.
Basicaly what I\'m doing with C7x0 ROMs...
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I don\'t know how I missed this thread before. I\'m interested in cacko for 5600!!!! Currently running zynergy and would love to try other rom\'s. Guess I need to go read up on Cacko....
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I\'m surprised this thread isn\'t getting more attention. I\'m also interested in cacko for the 5600. I\'m currently running Tkc 2.0 alpha3 and there is room for improvement.
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What are your issues with TKCRom? I am trying to decide which to put on my SL-5500 and I would be interedted in a comparison.
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I\'m surprised this thread isn\'t getting more attention. I\'m also interested in cacko for the 5600. I\'m currently running Tkc 2.0 alpha3 and there is room for improvement.
The problem is many people are interested in using the ROM but none are interested in maintaining it...
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Well there definately is a want for a cacko rom (me included). Any 5600 users out there also developers? Can you become a maintainer?
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Well there definately is a want for a cacko rom (me included). Any 5600 users out there also developers? Can you become a maintainer?
I don\'t have a 5600 device.
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I have the 5600 but pretty much gave up on a working alternate rom and only just recently came back and saw this thread. I would be interested also
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I have the 5600 but pretty much gave up on a working alternate rom and only just recently came back and saw this thread. I would be interested also
If you\'re willing to maintain a ROM for 5600, you can contact me and ced via PM. What I know is that ced was able to build a flashable and working ROM image using base from Cacko ROM + Qtopia and kernel from 5600.
What needs to be done is migration of features from C7x0 ROMs into 5600 and building a kernel with Cacko kernel patches.
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I\'m also interested in a decent 5600 ROM. I\'m a bit of a linux novice but I\'m willing to help in any way I can....
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I want the cacko rom for my 5600 also. Hook me up.
I\'m new to the Zaurus, but if someone wants to get a list of what needs to be done, I\'ll happily compile a kernel for it and build the packages. I just don\'t have time to search the forums to figure out what needs to be done to get it working properly.
Do the TKC apps work properly with the Cacko ROM?
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not that it matters, but I also have a 5600 that I\'m willing to use to test this as often as needed.
Scott
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I really appriciate all the offers to test the ROM, but untill there is someone willing to maintain, we have nothing to test yet...
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I really appriciate all the offers to test the ROM, but untill there is someone willing to maintain, we have nothing to test yet...
I\'ve done years of development and a fair bit of release management and such. And I\'m looking for a better ROM. As it is, I\'m still using my Palm that the Z 5600 was supposed to replace because I can\'t stand the PIMs (and haven\'t found a suitable replacement for them). Even better, I will probably have a bit of time on my hands in a bit (basically, my wonderful tech job has gone elsewhere), and, hey, it will always pad a resume.
On the downside, I\'ve never built a kernel let alone a ROM (I\'m confident I can figure it out, though), my C is rusty, and my C++ is, well, non-existant
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ROM maintenence does not require a lot of programming. That\'s mostly compiling existing tools/programs, building ROM image, flashing your own Zaurus, figuring out why the heck it bricked, going back to building ROM image, etc. The you release a version to the public and realize that you\'ve forgotten one very important feature in the ROM, so you have to start working on a new version right after you\'ve finished this one.
Then you also get a number of posts from people saying - \"Hey, my WiFi card no longer works under your ROM!\"
If you\'re willing to do that - you\'re welcome.
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Me too !
A master list of the tasks that need doing would be good, as we can figure out who will cover them. I would suggest multiple coverage as none of us are doing this full time.
Most of us are new to this so a little instruction will go a long way, we may be a little slow at first but like a fat woman falling down a stairs I am sure that we will gain an unstopable momentum !
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Me too !
A master list of the tasks that need doing would be good, as we can figure out who will cover them. I would suggest multiple coverage as none of us are doing this full time.
Most of us are new to this so a little instruction will go a long way, we may be a little slow at first but like a fat woman falling down a stairs I am sure that we will gain an unstopable momentum !
Contact ced via PM, he will provide you with the nessesary information on building the ROM.
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Well, just so you know, I've been offered the position of maintainer for Cacko for the 5600. And I've accepted.
I won't be doing this full time (I do have other things to do -- school comes to mind), but during the summer I don't have too much to do, so I'll be working hard on it. I probably won't be perfect at it right away, so it's all of your job to point out whatever I'm doing wrong (weather it's a bug, a feature request, or something to do with the overall management of it), and maybe give me some insight into how to fix it.
Also all of you with both 5600s and Cxx0s, I'll need to know how similar to the Cxx0 ROM the 5600 ROM is when I first get something workable out of it (because I don't have a C-series, I don't have a clue what the ROM is supposed to look like, or how it's supposed to act under some circumstances).
Thanks, and I'm looking forward to start working on this by sometime early next week.
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Ok, I've got the stuff to start working on the 5600 version of the ROM.
Currently, I have yet to build a working version (the initrd.bin is still about 1.5 MB too large to fit on the 5600 by default, so no testing it yet, and I don't think I'd be able to safely set it up for re-partitioning the flash ROM yet), but I have some questions to put to the people who'd be using it when I've finished it (and a few notes about my own plans).
First, what features do you want in the kernel? The ones I currently are planning on setting up are disabling the PXA250 cache bug workaround, and adding in the pre-emptive options, making it similar to the special kernels by ced. Any other requests?
Second, I'll be setting up an IPKG feed for this ROM for a few reasons. One, I cannot fit some applications by default on the ROM itself, since I don't feel I could re-partition the 5600 without error, so the feed would be used to provide those. What other applications would be nice to have in this feed?
And third, since I'm still 1.5 MB off of being able to fit this ROM on the 5600, I'll need a poll from C-series users of this ROM too. I've already taken out the Opera, Netfront, Music Player, MPEG Player, Movie Player, and Kino2 applications, planning to put them in IPKs for installation choices (what works, and what is better to your needs) after the ROM is installed. What else can be removed that wouldn't cause major problems?
Thanks for your time.
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Wireless support would be nice. And what about something like Ko/Pi integrated? I think you can leave out most applications and leave them to be installed later as the users want. Please also think about real built in rotation (preferably at the push of a button).
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Wireless support would be nice.
I'll see what I can do.
And what about something like Ko/Pi integrated?
I'll see. Maybe I'll do something like putting the Sharp PIMs (the Datebook/Todo List) and the Ko/Pi both in IPKs, and do a similar thing to the Opera/Netfront thing, and let people choose what they want. And once Ka/Pi is working, throw that into an IPK too. (Reason being that some sync options require the DTM format to use.)
I think you can leave out most applications and leave them to be installed later as the users want. Please also think about real built in rotation (preferably at the push of a button).
I'll see what I can do on the rotation at the hit of a button, but it'll probably not be easy (anyone who knows a way (on the 5600), please speak up...
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First, what features do you want in the kernel? The ones I currently are planning on setting up are disabling the PXA250 cache bug workaround, and adding in the pre-emptive options, making it similar to the special kernels by ced. Any other requests?
Do NOT include premptive options - they don't add any real performance but render some kernel modules incompatible (in particular bluetooth).
This is what I'd suggest to include. At least that's what I'd include if I was maintaining this ROM.
- Disable cache workaround
- Disable CONFIG_SYNC_IO for faster SD and CF writes
- Smaller boot console fonts
- Ericsson phones IRDA fix
- Updated wireless drivers, make sure that wireless extentions are enabled
- Updated bluetooth drivers
- Add USB Mass Storage support - use 5600 as a card reader.
- Enable ext3 support (for those who need it)
Here you can download a set of patches and configs used in Cacko ROM 1.21 kernel:
http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/cacko_ROM_kernel-1.21.tar.bz2 (http://web.mol.ru/~zaurus/cacko_ROM_kernel-1.21.tar.bz2)
Not all of the patches apply to 5600, but at those that I listed above do.
Please also think about real built in rotation (preferably at the push of a button).
That's impossible without rebuilding Qtopia from sources and sources are not available...
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maslovsky:
That set of patches is intended to be applied to a standard 2.4.18 source tree? Or one of the 2.4.18 versions specfic to the Zauri?
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maslovsky:
That set of patches is intended to be applied to a standard 2.4.18 source tree? Or one of the 2.4.18 versions specfic to the Zauri?
They should be applied to the Sharp's kernel source, available for download form japanese web site.
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- Disable CONFIG_SYNC_IO for faster SD and CF writes
As I was looking through the kernel config... I can't seem to find this option anywhere. Is it perhaps "CONFIG_FS_SYNC" instead?
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- Disable CONFIG_SYNC_IO for faster SD and CF writes
As I was looking through the kernel config... I can't seem to find this option anywhere. Is it perhaps "CONFIG_FS_SYNC" instead?
Yes, I typed it by memory (apparently poor
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I feel sort of bad for having to do this... But I just don't have the time to work on Cacko for the 5600... In the over-two weeks I've had the rootfs and the kernel patches all of what I've been doing really doesn't amount to very much. I've built a couple kernels, and played around with the rootfs a little, and in the past week I haven't had the time to do anything... I haven't even gotten a flashable version yet.
Also, there doesn't seem to be much interest in this project either. I asked for suggestions a while back and only a single person came up with any. There hasn't been a post to this thread in over two whole weeks. I think that both the number of people using 5600s and the number of people interested in an alternate ROM has decreased. The C-series is more or less taking over the Zaurus market.
Also, from my albeit short time working on this, I do think it would work better if the maintainer owned both a 5600 and a C7x0, for reference, as to how things work on the Cacko ROM. I don't, unfortunatly, bringing up more roadblocks for work I tried to do on this.
If anyone who does have the time feels like working on this project, I would be willing to help a little, but I just simply do not have the time to do the bulk of the work.
Once again, I'm sorry for not being able to work on this.
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Also, there doesn't seem to be much interest in this project either. I asked for suggestions a while back and only a single person came up with any. There hasn't been a post to this thread in over two whole weeks. I think that both the number of people using 5600s and the number of people interested in an alternate ROM has decreased. The C-series is more or less taking over the Zaurus market.
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May be it is too late but here what I wish for rom.1. Kernel with cash bug fixed, ext3 support, and possibility of overclocking.
2. Bash shell for users and root
3. GUI with very little apps preinstalled in it.- Clock (with alarm)
- Good Calculator (scientific with 20-30 functions)
- Standard Settings apps
- Console, Root console, Advanced FM and Search
- No Games, Opera. Hancom and PIM apps
4. Repartitioned rom so I can use freed space for what I need[/li]
I’ll be glad to help with what I can but I'm newbie to Linux and Z so I don’t know how.
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Any update on this? It's been quite some time and we need something now that Watapon has stopped development.