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Model Specific Forums => Astro Slide => Astro Slide - Hardware => Topic started by: cam1965 on December 10, 2024, 02:39:58 pm
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After a couple of years , I changed my cell phone battery. My astro was powering off with 25% of charge. The new battery is only 3150 mah but slim sufficient to fit astro. It is cameron sino brand . This battery charge lasts more than the original one, believe me. Photos could not be attached here . Message : The attachments upload directory is not writable. I 've contacted the administrator and I have not got any solution up to now. So I decided to put a link of a video here : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Kfc60a0QzMA
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I would like to see detailed instructions published, including how to remove the cover. Please do so.
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I would like to see detailed instructions published, including how to remove the cover. Please do so.
To remove the cover use your fingernails in the gap between the black part and the blue hardcover. Slide and move your fingernails through the entire edge. And force a little bit to remove it. Use the same controller of the original battery in the new battery. ( This was done by a technician who soldered the controller to the new battery ) . I have asked the administrator to attach photos here. Link to video again: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Kfc60a0QzMA
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Which cameron sino 3150 mAh battery? There's more than one model...
I think by "controller" you mean the battery protection board, right?. The battery charge controller is probably on the Astro Slide PCB.
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Oops, I should have watched the video: the model number of your replacement battery is CS-BLV009XL.
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I understand better how to remove the cover, thanks!
I too would like to know the battery model.
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I understand better how to remove the cover, thanks!
I too would like to know the battery model.
It is on the video.
Model is CS-BLV009XL { Cameron Sino ). The capacity is 3150 mah. The original battery capacity is 4000mah.If the admin provide a solution I will attach photos of the original and the cameron sino battery.
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Which cameron sino 3150 mAh battery? There's more than one model...
I think by "controller" you mean the battery protection board, right?. The battery charge controller is probably on the Astro Slide PCB.
Yes. Used the part that was on the original battery in the new battery.
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Hi, that's a very interesting solution for the battery problem, thanks for sharing it! Regarding the attachments issue, we are currently working on it to fix it, sorry for the inconvenience.
Varti
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Hi, that's a very interesting solution for the battery problem, thanks for sharing it! Regarding the attachments issue, we are currently working on it to fix it, sorry for the inconvenience.
Varti
Thank you.
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My Astro battery has now started dying. It seems easy enough to find your replacement.
How does the actual installation go? Is soldering required?
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Yes. It is required. This was done by a technician.
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Yes. It is required. This was done by a technician.
Ok, darn. I guess I'll be investing in a spot welder. There seems to be cheap ones on Amazon.
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...I just got the battery. Cam, do you know if the installer had to open up the battery pack to get this installed? I'm confused about the fact that there is only that one external connector on the battery. Or is that a temp sensor or something?
It's visible in your video too, but looks like the texts of the battery are a bit...crumpled? Just wondering if the battery pack's has to be opened (carefully) to get direct access to the terminals (and for replacing the BMS).
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Ok, found a video of a phone that uses the same type of battery that your replacement - natively. So looks like, that "single" connector actually has all the terminals required in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD1Lw9CI4vc
Astro probably does not use same connector (or does it?!), so opening up the battery is most likely needed. But I'll hold off opening the phone until the Astro battery performance has really gone down enough to make it unusable as a daily driver...
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...I just got the battery. Cam, do you know if the installer had to open up the battery pack to get this installed? I'm confused about the fact that there is only that one external connector on the battery. Or is that a temp sensor or something?
It's visible in your video too, but looks like the texts of the battery are a bit...crumpled? Just wondering if the battery pack's has to be opened (carefully) to get direct access to the terminals (and for replacing the BMS).
Hi Zarhan.
The BMS is from the original battery. It was soldered onto the replacement battery. I didn´t use the BMS from the replacement cameron battery.
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Ok, found a video of a phone that uses the same type of battery that your replacement - natively. So looks like, that "single" connector actually has all the terminals required in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD1Lw9CI4vc
Astro probably does not use same connector (or does it?!), so opening up the battery is most likely needed. But I'll hold off opening the phone until the Astro battery performance has really gone down enough to make it unusable as a daily driver...
Yes, the bms was removed from the replacement cameron sino battery. I soldered the BMS from the original astro battery onto the replacement battery
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Yes, the bms was removed from the replacement cameron sino battery. I soldered the BMS from the original astro battery onto the replacement battery
Ok, thanks for confirming. I guess once you remove some of the covers you can see all three terminals (or four?) and then can solder the Astro BMS in there.
With that in mind, I'll wait for the Astro battery to degrade a bit more before (e.g. where it no longer holds even a half-a-day charge), meaning that the battery replacement is mandatory to keep the device usable as a daily driver, in case I break things.
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Yes, the bms was removed from the replacement cameron sino battery. I soldered the BMS from the original astro battery onto the replacement battery
Ok, thanks for confirming. I guess once you remove some of the covers you can see all three terminals (or four?) and then can solder the Astro BMS in there.
With that in mind, I'll wait for the Astro battery to degrade a bit more before (e.g. where it no longer holds even a half-a-day charge), meaning that the battery replacement is mandatory to keep the device usable as a daily driver, in case I break things.
OK. Good luck. Only another link ( But for gemini and cosmo ). In this case it is not necessary to remove the BMS from the replacement battery. Check the polarity befory connecting. https://electronicsera.eu/2024/01/04/planetbatteries/ . I have changed my battery in gemini for this Hsabat battery ( https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005007976621754.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.295fcaa4HQTq2Y&gatewayAdapt=glo2bra ) . The battery cable must be twisted to put the battery in place.
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Ok, one last thing - does the Astro battery have three or four terminals once you open it up? Does it have a data terminal for battery status? Or just +, - and temp?
If it has four, are you getting accurate indications on battery capacity (SoC, percentage)?
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Ok, one last thing - does the Astro battery have three or four terminals once you open it up? Does it have a data terminal for battery status? Or just +, - and temp?
If it has four, are you getting accurate indications on battery capacity (SoC, percentage)?
I really don´t know.
I left the astro to a technician sometimes ago to solder the battery and don´t remember.
Maybe searching in google you can find the answer. I only know about gemini and cosmo batteries that I have oppened recently. They have in it the marks ID, +, - and T. Maybe the battery astro is similar.But I really don´t know. I will try to attach a photo to a battery terminal similar to gemini, but I think this forum as I said before are not letting me to attach photos.
Confirmed this ( The attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved. )
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I guess the flexible flat cable has three conductors: minus, plus, and NTC. The NTC is probably on the BMS board, connected to the minus and NTC conductors. Probably, the NTC is a 10 kΩ one.
That is, there are two wires between the battery proper and the BMS board, and three wires between the BMS board and the battery connector.
I assume that the right tool is a soldering iron, not a spot welder. You need a spot welder for round cells, but not for Lipo cells.