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Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: duffman on May 13, 2004, 01:09:31 pm
Does anyone have photos? I\'m curious exactly how big the Z is with the sleeve.
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: palugeek on May 13, 2004, 02:23:14 pm
I don\'t have any photos but I do have an expansion sleeve.  The sleeve is tapered at the top and is a little more than 1/4 inch thicker at the top than at the bottom.  At the bottom, the thinner end, it is just about the same thickness as the 6000 itself.  All the other dimensions are the same, so the bottom line is that the unit fully assembled is twice as thick.  

I like the extra functionality of the expansion but it is definitely not a \"pocket PC\" any more.
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: lwong on May 13, 2004, 02:31:53 pm
If you attach the sleeve,  it will block the speaker and mic, right? That\'s one of the concern I have about the sleeve because eventually I want to have a GSM module attached to the 6000 and use it as a phone.

Thanks

FW
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: kenknight on May 13, 2004, 02:54:03 pm
Correct me if I am wrong on this, but if I want to use CF cards in a 6000 I have to first purchase the xpansion sleeve, right? This is rather irritating to me. I realize that for the target audience that Sharp sees it\'s not really a big deal (though why they couldn\'t buld it so the machine would have its wireless connectivity and the CF slot I don\'t understand - it\'d not be that much bigger). BUt I don\'t like the notion of having to pay an extra $140 for the expansion sleeve.

Just makes me wish more they\'d sell the C-series in the States. But tht\'s life.

  ** Ken **
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: duffman on May 13, 2004, 03:20:04 pm
Well there\'s a CF card slot in the 6000 without the sleeve, and I am fairly certain you can toss CF cards in there. The sleeve simply adds another CF slot, and I heard that there\'s a PC/MCIA slot on a sleeve.
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: lwong on May 13, 2004, 03:25:57 pm
Doesn;t the expansion sleeve have an extra CF slot instead of PCMCIA? It will be so much better if it is PCMCIA but as far as I remember it\'s jsut another CF.

FW
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: duffman on May 13, 2004, 04:18:31 pm
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Doesn;t the expansion sleeve have an extra CF slot instead of PCMCIA? It will be so much better if it is PCMCIA but as far as I remember it\'s jsut another CF.

FW


Currently yes, they only offer the CF slot one, but I believe I\'ve heard that there is a PCMCIA one in the works.
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: lwong on May 13, 2004, 04:42:11 pm
Hmm... I guess I will have to wait a bit longer then....

FW
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: DrWowe on May 13, 2004, 05:07:03 pm
Is it possible to get a pinout for the expansion connector?
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: palugeek on May 13, 2004, 10:12:13 pm
One thing you mustn\'t overlook, the sleeve does come with an extra battery in addition to the CF slot.
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: coolass on May 14, 2004, 08:19:34 am
lwong , if you use a GSM/GPRS card they come with a headphone/mic jack on them for cellphone use.
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: lwong on May 14, 2004, 10:19:40 am
coolass,

You are completely correct. But after using a bluetooth headset with my current phone(w/o wires), I don\'t know if I can get used to using regular hands-free set anymore. At first I thought holding your PDA to your face to answer the phone is strange but after seeing some of my co-workers do it with their PPC phones, it looks less strange nowadays.

Now if someone can make the GSM module use the bluetooth card to talk to a bluetooth handsfree.......

fw
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: DrWowe on May 14, 2004, 10:28:20 am
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Is it possible to get a pinout for the expansion connector?


coolass, (or anyone else with enterprise connections at Sharp), is it possible to get this info?  Doesn\'t seem like it should be a big secret...
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: coolass on May 14, 2004, 10:52:59 am
DrWowe ,I\'ll find out for you and also there is always the PCMCI to CF adaptor. lwong there are a few wireless headsets that use RF signals to transmit. I use one myself and can get a range of about 10 meters with walls.It\'s 2.4ghz and doesn\'t interfere with wifi.
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: lwong on May 14, 2004, 11:56:28 am
Coolass, aren\'t you refering to Bluetooth? 2.4GHz RF with max range of 10m seems to describe bluetooth prefectly.

I have search for existing CF GSM/GPRS but all requires you to use the WIRED handfree set they supply. I hope this will change as they introduce newer sets.

But either way a expansion sleeve w/ PCMCIA slot is welcomed. A Toshiba 5GB PCMCIA HDD cost aroud $170 while a CF counterpart will cost many times over.

FW
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: coolass on May 14, 2004, 04:45:54 pm
The one I\'m referring to is a CASE LOGIC wireless  universal headset. It has a small adaptor that has a belt clip,3 small rechargable batteries,car charger,adaptor for charging at home and 3 extra adaptors for different phones.2.5mm is standard just like the sl-6000 jack. I use the home charge on the road to charge my cellphone because you can plug any thing into it that uses a cigarette lighter for power.It cuts down on cables. This is what I use. http://www.buy.com/retail/electronics/prod...=111&queryType= (http://www.buy.com/retail/electronics/product.asp?sku=90116641&sp=1&loc=111&queryType=)
Title: Zaurus expansion sleeve...
Post by: jerbell on May 14, 2004, 06:01:44 pm
Just got the sleeve today.

The sleeve has audio ducts so you can still use the built in mic and speaker. Sounds the same to me...maybe slighty muted.

The manual notes that the sleeves cf slot wont work when the sleeves battery is discharged even if the battery in the z itself is fully charged.

The nice suprise for me is the serial port on the top left side of the sleeve, which will let me use it and the keyboard at the same time I use it.  I dont know yet if its a second port or just an extension of the port on the Z.

Also nice is that with the sleeve I dont think I will accidently turn the Z off so much.