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get it while it\'s hot...
OZ3.3.6pre1 initrd.bin preloaded with opie 1.1.4 (May 16th)...
:arrow: http://dx.northern.ca/opie1.1.4/ (http://dx.northern.ca/opie1.1.4/)
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What\'s different in opie 1.1.4? I cant seem to find a release notes saying what has changed.
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I packed the feed, initrd and zImage.
http://admin.di.fc.ul.pt/~bsantos/ (http://admin.di.fc.ul.pt/~bsantos/)
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What\'s different in opie 1.1.4? I cant seem to find a release notes saying what has changed.
Well, I don\'t know if there are any release notes...
I can tell you what I\'ve noticed so far:
- konsole now has a full screen mode, which I like... you tap a hotspot to get out of it
- apps seem a bit faster loading, and I can flip between calendar and address book without either of them locking up
- bug fix for calendar so appointments edit screen does not go off physical screen when appointment title is long.. (this has been an annoyance for me from opie 1.0 -] 1.03)
- mediaplayer fixed some bugs but has some new ones... mime type problem is fixed, but it currently can\'t scan for available songs on my z.
it still plays music okay, but you have to use add file for each song and then flip to a different tab and then back to playlist before it will play.
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- mediaplayer fixed some bugs but has some new ones... mime type problem is fixed, but it currently can\'t scan for available songs on my z.
You will have to edit the opiestorage.cf where you keep your music, here\'s my file:
The same would have to be done for /mnt/card if that is where you keep it.
I have been using this for 3 days without a problem.
Thanks for the initrd.bin
Greg
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I believe that with opie-mediumount you can setup this options without messing with that file. But knowing its contents makes tinkering with it easier, of course.
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I took the plunge and I\'m happy with the results.
Opie 1.1.4 looks pretty!
And the wifi detection built into the network app is nice!
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There were dependencies noted for this upgrade. Is that list somewhere?
I have lost the upgrade instructions; where are they??
Thanks,
Dan
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get it while it\'s hot...
OZ3.3.6pre1 initrd.bin preloaded with opie 1.1.4 (May 16th)...
:arrow: http://dx.northern.ca/opie1.1.4/ (http://dx.northern.ca/opie1.1.4/)
The version of hotplug and pcmcia packages you are using are a bit broke in regards to the zaurus. (cf cards do not get recognized) I have noticed this eslewhere besides your rom image. I de-graded to an earlier version of both packages, and cf worked again.
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CF is intermittent; what versions of hotplug and pcmcia did you use??
Dan
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Dear All,
It seems that the initial url link in this thread is down?
I downloaded the the package from Bluey\'s site - thanks for that bluey. But I noticed that the zimage is providing no storage on ram. Being a new user of Zaurus and OZ, I am aware that you can store all your apps on an SD or CF card. I have a sandisk 256MB SD card which I can use. I have read some threads in the list regarding doing so but at the same time some ppl seem to be having problems with formatting Sandisk using ext2.
It would be really great if someone can point me to a detailed how-to on going ahead with this after flashing with the OZ in this thread. If this can include formatting SD using ext2 and then installing and running apps such as nmap, kismet, pdf viewer etc from the SD card, it would be great. I am sure most of you have already done this and if you can share your experience with the rest of us, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Giro
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It would be really great if someone can point me to a detailed how-to on going ahead with this after flashing with the OZ in this thread.
Here\'s the How-to that I first used and still use for reference:
http://www.linux-migration.org/ch05.html (http://www.linux-migration.org/ch05.html)
I will bookmark moving /opt and /home to SD for you:
http://www.linux-migration.org/ch05s10s05s03.html (http://www.linux-migration.org/ch05s10s05s03.html)
Greg
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The version of hotplug and pcmcia packages you are using are a bit broke in regards to the zaurus. (cf cards do not get recognized) I have noticed this eslewhere besides your rom image.
You\'d have noticed this if you\'d run OZ3.3.6pre1 before, as that is a problem common to all ROMs built off of it... (I didn\'t upgrade any non-opie packages, I didn\'t even do all of the opie ones - just enough to get the basics and pim stuff working)
I\'m not sure if the CF problems have to do with the kernel or compiling things against the new GCC, you\'d best ask Kergoth or Mickeyl about that one....
I de-graded to an earlier version of both packages, and cf worked again.
Do tell... where did you get an earlier version compiled w/ GCC 3.3.2 that works or did you manage to install libcompat?
If you describe the procedure and it proves more reliable that what\'s on the initrd now, I\'d be happy to implement it... as even I have the occasional CF hick-up, which I work usually around by cartctl suspend, zaurus suspend, zaurus resume...
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Will this work or be modified for the sl-5600?
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First of all, I would like to thank Greg2 for the really useful link. Secondly, is anyone using a pdf viewer, email client that works with 3.3.6pre1? I am not able to get any working (qpdf, mailit, qtmail etc).
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First of all, I would like to thank Greg2 for the really useful link. Secondly, is anyone using a pdf viewer, email client that works with 3.3.6pre1? I am not able to get any working (qpdf, mailit, qtmail etc).
Perhaps qpdf2 + oz-compat-opie (http://www.mithis.com/zaurus/ipkgs/) if 3.3.6pre1 gcc 3.3.2 ?
BUT I do not know if it will work !!
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Will this work or be modified for the sl-5600?
I don\'t have a 5600, but here is the script I used to do the upgrade
#!/bin/sh
alias beep=\'echo -en "\007"\'
# ipkg remove qpf-bitstream-vera-light; ipkg install opie-common libopiedb2 sqlite
PKGLST="libqte2 libqpe1 libopie1 libopiedb2
opie-addressbook opie-advancedfm opie-appearance opie-aqpkg opie-backup opie-batteryapplet opie-button-settings
opie-calculator opie-cardmon opie-citytime opie-clipboardapplet opie-clock opie-clockapplet opie-common opie-datebook
opie-deco-flat opie-deco-liquid opie-deco-polished opie-doctab opie-drawpad opie-embeddedkonsole opie-i18n-en
opie-irdaapplet opie-keytabs opie-language opie-light-and-power opie-liquid opie-login opie-multikey opie-networksettings
opie-networksettingsplugin-kppp opie-networksettingsplugin-wlan
opie-osearch opie-pickboard opie-pics opie-qcop opie-quicklauncher opie-screenshotapplet opie-security
opie-sounds opie-style-flat opie-style-fresh opie-sysinfo opie-systemtime opie-taskbar opie-textedit opie-today
opie-today-addressbookplugin opie-today-datebookplugin opie-today-todolistplugin opie-todo opie-volumeapplet opie-wirelessapplet
libopieobex0"
# opie-launcher-settings
# opie-opiealarm
ipkg remove qpf-bitstream-vera-light
for PKG in $PKGLST; do
# echo
ipkg remove $PKG
done
sleep 10
for PKG in $PKGLST; do
# echo $PKG
ipkg install $PKG
sleep 2
done
## All Done.
beep; sleep 1;
beep; sleep 1;
beep; sleep 1;
beep; sleep 1;
ln -s /usr/lib/libsqlite.so /usr/lib/libsqlite.so.0
and then use OZone to back it up to a ROM.
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is anyone using a pdf viewer, email client that works
Make sure you have installed the following from the proper feed:
libetpan
libmailwrapper
libopie2
opie-mail
opie-mailapplet
opie-qpdf
The feed:
http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/openzaurus/...le-gcc3/SL5xxx/ (http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/openzaurus/unstable-gcc3/SL5xxx/)
libpcap
and anything else you need are in this feed:
http://www.openzaurus.org/official/experim...4.18-gcc3/ipks/ (http://www.openzaurus.org/official/experimental/collie/3.3.6-pre1-2.4.18-gcc3/ipks/)
If you use the AQPkg-Package Manager the output will tell you (sometimes) if you need anything else. If it\'s not in the first feed you can \'try\' to use some things in the other feed.
You can also use the Openzaurus-users mailing list where other users solve these problems:
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinf...penzaurus-users (https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openzaurus-users)
Greg
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I am using the supplied tar file.. that script rendered my Oz unusable... I can\'t even get Oz reflashed.. Sharp-based works though.. and anyway how do you get to the console in Oz? When I quit opie, it just says openzaurus login: and is frozen.
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You\'d have noticed this if you\'d run OZ3.3.6pre1 before, as that is a problem common to all ROMs built off of it... (I didn\'t upgrade any non-opie packages, I didn\'t even do all of the opie ones - just enough to get the basics and pim stuff working)
All of that stuff worked for me before with my ambicom just fine, but with this new flash it\'s broken. My 5500 detected the Ambicom wireless CF card but I don\'t get a WLAN configuration tab, just a DHCP and IP config window. Anyone else see that?
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I figured out my problem, after editing wireless.conf in /etc/pcmcia everything is functioning WLAN wise. My wireless router is selective about ESSID and whatnot, so w/out specifics it wasnt gonna find it. I suppose this opie just doesnt have the extra config apps for it like previous ones? I had tried to reinstall pkgs earlier and ended up digging around by hand... i can say, i feel a lot better on the 5500 keypad already and it\'s not a hassle much anymore.
Just wish the clipboard was more reliable seems to not work in a lot of instances.
yay a stable-appearing oz installation. finally. Now to figure out how to install apps with minimal breakage, and not fill my root fs -AGAIN-
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Well just for something to do I uninstalled the packages listed above (from my C750 with OZ3.3.6pre1) and then manually installed them from the opie 1.1.4 feed.
It works, but I don\'t have a touchscreen (which is a bit of an issue).
Any ideas as to how I should resolve this (other than reflashing of course)?
Cheers,
Si
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Well I\'ve played around a bit with it (using the keyboard).
It\'s nice that the Home key now works to change tabs (it didn\'t use to), but everything looks even smaller than it did before!
The reason I started messing about with this was to try out the new version of Konsole which alegedly allows one to change the font size (make it bigger!). Unfortunately, I can\'t access the font menu as the touchscreen isn\'t playing.
Just clearing out my CF for the reflash....
Si
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APkg keeps on going nuts on me. I can\'t install anything. Anyone having this problem?
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Disclaimer: I promise I won\'t raise that issue ever again on this forum, since I\'m as fed up as you with it.
But once and for all... if you folks would spend just a fraction of the energy you spend into shaping up an outdated and unmaintained release without a future instead into helping us to get a current release out, then the world would be a better place.
I just can\'t understand that. Work on OZ 3.3.x is pretty much wasted and pointless and people who have experience enough to produce a derived work would be very valuable for the project\'s future. But with wasting your time on old releases you weaken us as a community.
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Mickeyl: people are tinkerers, they need something to tinker with - something they can flash rather than compile. Give them an OE-based pre-pre-alpha release and they will play with that. Bit of a chicken/egg problem there, isn\'t it...
z.
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It\'s my view that people who want to help us will have to build images themselves anyway. If I put one up I probably just get \"this and that doesn\'t work\" and this is not bringing us forward since we already know what doesn\'t work (http://openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/OzTODO3.5.1 (http://openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/OzTODO3.5.1))- we would need competent testers who can fix things.
You can\'t really test fixes without building images.
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But once and for all... if you folks would spend just a fraction of the energy you spend into shaping up an outdated and unmaintained release without a future instead into helping us to get a current release out, then the world would be a better place.
I just can\'t understand that. Work on OZ 3.3.x is pretty much wasted and pointless and people who have experience enough to produce a derived work would be very valuable for the project\'s future.
You know, I wonder why we bother too...
Maybe it\'s because we operate in the dark (when\'s the last time you looked at the OZ homepage) or maybe it\'s because that\'s the last snapshot we have (and yes I know it\'s more then 6 months old) so we use it because we actually need to use PIM stuff or maybe it\'s because we don\'t want to fuck around trying to set-up a toolchain to build something that might not even compile...
I can tell you that after my experince with OpieSDK ( http://www.zaurususergroup.com/index.php?n...c&p=23095#23095 (http://www.zaurususergroup.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=23095#23095) ), which resulted in something unusable (change a widget in Qtdesigner and nothing compiles), I think the bar for entry is far too high...
Maybe somewhere on the OE Wiki there is some page that says I can just do the following:
apt-get install OE-toolchain OE-src-snapshot; cd /opt/OE/src; make clean; make initrd; make kernel
and get a working rom or a half-working rom, but how would I know?
But with wasting your time on old releases you weaken us as a community.
There is no OZ/OE community, we are but the left-overs...
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Erm... If I\'m correct, Mickey touched on this topic in his newest OE/OZ/Opie Newsletter (http://openzaurus.org/newsletters/2004.06) (good job by the way).
The point about testers having to build stuff is a good one. There probably isn\'t any shortcut - we just need to plow through the process and if we can come up with a simpler HOWTO (or another way to lower the barrier to entry) then we need to share it.
Still, people limited to dial-up connections (such as myself) would prefer one big self-contained chunk to download and experiment with. If I understand things correctly, running oebuild opie-image means contacting CVS repositories and/or FTP servers of the individual packages. That\'s pretty much off limits for me (perhaps I\'m wrong).
z.
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Right. Even a small linux distribution like OpenZaurus contains heaps of sources which we download them from the respective upstream repositories. It probably isn\'t much fun with anything less than DSL. You also need around 4G of free storage for opie-image.
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4G to compile what at the end will be ~32 M of executables, etc? Wow.
Anyways, I can understand your frustration but perhaps you\'d best consider many OZ users are not programmers. I dabble in programming as part of my job (research, engineering, radar, signal processing) but I don\'t have enough knowledge of QT nor the time to learn it well enough to be of any use.
I am looking forward to the 3.5.x version of OZ hoping I will finally be able to use my PDA as it was intended. You guys do a great job!
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4G to compile what at the end will be ~32 M of executables, etc? Wow.
Anyways, I can understand your frustration but perhaps you\'d best consider many OZ users are not programmers. I dabble in programming as part of my job (research, engineering, radar, signal processing) but I don\'t have enough knowledge of QT nor the time to learn it well enough to be of any use.
I, like you, am not a C coder... being a java consultant, I dabble in Java....
I am in awe at the thought of trying to corral 4GB of source into a 16 MB ROM + kernel... it must be, er... fun... (perhaps a bit time consuming too)
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I\'ll see if I can use my employer\'s broadband connection. Time to talk to the boss & cash in some favors...
z.
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The OE wiki has recently been updated and now the directions to start compiling apps is much easier to understand and use.
Within 10 minutes I had OE cloned from BK and was ready to start compiling - took quite a while to get the cross-compiler toolchain compiled, but now I\'m ready to start compiling and testing packages on my C760.
Have a couple of questions about the config file, but the people on IRC generally have been able to give answers to my questions.
Check out the OE wiki - you\'ll be pleasantly surprised if you haven\'t been there in the last few weeks
Stu
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Oh, so the toolchain can now be compiled by OE?
Does it have f77 by default or will I have to do some editting (I had to remove all of my old stuff due to space issues).
One more thing, the old getting started said you had to make patcher amongst other things. Is this no longer the case? I\'m actually finding the new instructions confusing after having used the old ones ;-)
Si
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I tried the old instructions and they had you downloading a toolchain first, gave up on that as there were a bunch of incosintencies in my toolchain.
Went back to OE wiki the other day and the instructions have been revamped - no need to download the toolchain, just download the oe and packages set from BK, edit local.conf and oemake <package>, OE then goes and makes all the packages needed to meet <package>\'s dependancies.
I started with oemake gnupg and it created the toolchain for me. I took a while, and I haven\'t had a chance to try gnupg on my Z yet.
Just check the build area and gcc-3.4.0-cross contains f771. f771 --version gives
(gcc-3.4GNU F77 version 3.4.0 (arm-linux)
compiled by GNU C version 3.3.3 20040412 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.3-r6, ssp-3.3.2-2, pie-8.7.6).
GGC heuristics: --param ggc-min-expand=64 --param ggc-min-heapsize=64393.0)
Stu
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Cool,
I\'ve just started an \'oemake world\' on my Linux box......
Si
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Us poor Zaurus people will still have to download the ancient 2.95.3 just for the kernel builds. OE takes care of building the other toolchains.
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I thought there was a patch to allow GCC 3.x to be used for the kernel?
Or has this not been included yet?
Si
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Attempts have been made, but I\'m not sure why it hasn\'t been completed. Lack of interest, possibly.
Then again, 2.6.5 just started to get some movement, so maybe in a couple of months, we have kernel with a future (_if_ the kernel developers cooperate with mainline).
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Do tell... where did you get an earlier version compiled w/ GCC 3.3.2 that works or did you manage to install libcompat?
If you describe the procedure and it proves more reliable that what\'s on the initrd now, I\'d be happy to implement it... as even I have the occasional CF hick-up, which I work usually around by cartctl suspend, zaurus suspend, zaurus resume...
I compiled them..
placed them here
http://handhelds.org/~llornkcor/devZone/ho...l-strongarm.ipk (http://handhelds.org/~llornkcor/devZone/hotplug_2002_08_26-9_armv4l-strongarm.ipk)
and
http://handhelds.org/~llornkcor/devZone/pc...l-strongarm.ipk (http://handhelds.org/~llornkcor/devZone/pcmcia-cs_3.2.3-8c_armv4l-strongarm.ipk)
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Following Mickey\'s terse but correct instructions (http://openzaurus.org/newsletters/2004.06), I\'ve set up OE at work and it\'s now chugging along, building opie-image. Snags I\'ve hit so far:
- glibc complained of LD_LIBRARY_PATH containing a reference to the present directory. My ~/.bash_profile was the culprit. Turns out glibc configure script doesn\'t like LD_LIBRARY_PATH starting or ending with \":\" or containing \"::\" (same goes for semicolons). It also chokes on LD_LIBRARY_PATH entries containing \".\".
- mtd was looking for a 20040618 snapshot when 20040611 was the freshest one available. I tweaked mtd.oe.
- an FTP connection to ftp.debian.org timed out. OE tried another IP address right away and it worked (not really a snag but a few minutes\' loss nevertheless).
I really like the caching part - when the build fails, I just fix it, re-start and it picks up where it left off. Something I don\'t like that much is the reliance on other people\'s servers. I have to remind myself that the alternative would mean downloading all those packages manually. I\'m simply not used to this level of pampering 8) .
Great work. Hats off to all OE developers.
z.
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Has anyone gotten the D-Link DCF-660W working with 3.3.6-pre1? I\'ve added the lines to the /etc/pcmcia/config file:
card \"D-Link DCF-660W\"
manfid 0x601, 0x0005
bind \"orinoco_cs\"
stopped and started the pcmcia service and ejected/inserted the DCF-660W and it still gets recognized as a Zcomax XI-325H and no network.
That and of course there\'s no wep configuration available in the network config utility.