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Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: Harper on May 30, 2004, 04:30:42 pm
I\'ve done some searching around, both on google and here, and I\'ve not found such a beast. So I\'ll ask: can anyone make a true-to-life sized picture of the keyboard? I think it would be most helpful to determine just how big it is, since most of us are not able to fondle the devices before we buy them.

Thank you much, and I do apologise this has been done somewhere.

[Edit: Apologies. I made the assumption that since I was in the C7x0 hardware forum, people would gather I was speaking about the C7x0 series keyboard. My fault.   ]
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: rikiya on May 30, 2004, 04:33:03 pm
What keyboard?
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: Joshp on May 30, 2004, 04:34:13 pm
I don\'t know about Harper but  I would like to see a life size Cxxx keybord.

JP
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: rikiya on May 30, 2004, 04:34:34 pm
ohhh
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: rikiya on May 30, 2004, 04:35:20 pm
I\'ll try my best with my digital camera...
but it won\'t be exact cause I\'d have to resize it etc.
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: datajerk on May 30, 2004, 05:58:54 pm
Put a ruler next to it when you take your picture since it will be impossible to determine the output device the requested users will have.  

FYI, I do not have a ruler with me, but I can tell you that the keyboard is about the height of a US one dollar bill and the length 3/4th the length of the same bill.
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: rikiya on May 30, 2004, 07:58:27 pm
http://www.geocities.com/rikiya_2003/IMG_0789.JPG (http://www.geocities.com/rikiya_2003/IMG_0789.JPG)
here you go now[/img]
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: rikiya on May 30, 2004, 08:00:38 pm
for a bit more info, try putting your 2 hands together palm down without your thumbs just your fingers, it about the width of that
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: Teletubbie on May 30, 2004, 08:01:39 pm
Dear Rikiya
The link does not work:
We\'re sorry, but this page is currently unavailable for viewing.
Cheers,
Sam
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: RoniXt on May 30, 2004, 08:16:03 pm
You\'ll have to copy the URL and paste it in the Address Bar yourself.
Geocities won\'t allow you to see the picture when it\'s linked from another site.
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: Joshp on May 30, 2004, 08:35:53 pm
rikiya,  Could you please also do one with out the tape.  Thx

JP
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: Harper on May 31, 2004, 12:48:51 am
That is quite nice, thank you much. I was wondering if you could do one with a ruler along the bottom of it? If we had that, and you took the picture directly above the open zaurus, we could scale it to be the exact size.
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: websphere on May 31, 2004, 01:45:31 pm
A little larger than life, but here you go...

[img]http://home.earthlink.net/~web_everywhere/pic/kb.jpg\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: Harper on May 31, 2004, 02:32:18 pm
Thank you very much. I have taken the liberty, and a ruler, to try to get it is as close as possible to proper scale. Here it is, for all those curious:
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: Zuber on May 31, 2004, 05:14:05 pm
Proper scale ?

It looks tiny looking at in on my Zaurus.

Perhaps we should quote proper scale on what size of monitor and resolution...
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: Harper on June 01, 2004, 01:57:30 am
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Proper scale ?

It looks tiny looking at in on my Zaurus.

Perhaps we should quote proper scale on what size of monitor and resolution...


Well, I would assume that the image, in full resolution, would be the same size on anything that displayed it, at said full resolution. I wasn\'t counting on various browsers scaling things and toying with it.

That said, the \"calibration\" was done at 1280x960.
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: Fromwithin on June 01, 2004, 05:04:39 am
It\'s got nothing to do with browsers scaling or anything like that. Each display device has a different pixel resolution. Surely you understand this?

You could have two monitors, one 15\", the other 21\", but both displaying a 1280 x 960 screen. Both monitors will exhibit an identical amount of detail, but obviously the picture will appear much smaller on the 15\" monitor as it is using smaller pixels.
Title: Life Size Picture of the Keyboard?
Post by: Harper on June 01, 2004, 01:42:13 pm
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It\'s got nothing to do with browsers scaling or anything like that. Each display device has a different pixel resolution. Surely you understand this?

You could have two monitors, one 15\", the other 21\", but both displaying a 1280 x 960 screen. Both monitors will exhibit an identical amount of detail, but obviously the picture will appear much smaller on the 15\" monitor as it is using smaller pixels.


Yes, each display does have a different pixel resolution. However I thought that most modern, common, displays were approximately 95dpi, give or take a bit, at least as far as desktop monitors were concerned. So while it will not be perfectly accurate across the breadth, it will be reasonably accurate for most everyone. Elaboration:

A 15 inch monitor with a native resolution of 1024x768, which is completely common, very likely has around 97dpi. A 21 inch with a native resolution of 1600x1200 has about 101dpi. That isn\'t a lot of variance.
Now of course the Zaurus c series at 640x480 at has a much higher dpi than these, but I really wasn\'t trying to consider mobile devices, as most people with the Zaurus don\'t need an image to convey to them the size of the keyboard.

In the case of a 15 and 21 inch both doing 1280x960. The 15 inch would STILL have a native dpi of approximately 97 because the monitor is built at a certain specification based on the size and technology of the time. It can, however, be over driven. Likewise with the 21 inch, although it would be underdriven at that point.

I realise you probably know all of this already, but I felt compelled to justify myself a little.