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Title: Documents Tab?
Post by: al on May 30, 2004, 06:16:36 pm
Can somebody explain where the Documents Tab on a SL-5500 OZ3.2 64/0 setup picks up all the files? I\'d be happy to only have the files in the Documents directory, but it seems to pick up everything on my CF and SD card. I\'ve currently moved opt, home, and root to SD.

Is there a way round this so it only displays files in the documents directory? I\'m sure I\'ve seen something somewhere but I can\'t find it again.

Thanks for any help.

Cheers,

Al.
Title: Documents Tab?
Post by: Mickeyl on May 31, 2004, 01:56:59 pm
Try installing and using opie-mediummount or install Opie 1.0.3 which lets you completely disable the DocTab.
Title: Documents Tab?
Post by: zenyatta on June 01, 2004, 05:58:16 am
I have a similar experience. I was quite happy with the DocTab until I started using my Z for documentation browsing (Python, Qtopia, Hibernate, CSS etc.). These are all huge sets of HTML files and it takes ages for them to be scanned, plus the DocTab is now incredibly cluttered. I was thinking of:

- enabling konqueror to browse inside .tar.bz2 or .tar.gz archives, or
- enhancing DocTab with include/exclude directory configuration, or
- doing away with DocTab and creating a CustomTab where any application could be housed, always on stand-by. I would put FileManager on the CustomTab and use that instead of DocTab.

The first solution would clean up DocTab while also saving memory but I\'m afraid it would be unbearably slow. The second one is more viable and I would very much like to be able to tell DocTab \"please ignore /mnt/cf/docs\". The third solution is mucho flexible but probably quite complicated to implement.

And, of course, at the moment I really don\'t have the time or skills (or the time to acquire the skills) to implement any of them :sad: . I would like to hear other people\'s views of the DocTab, however. I\'ve noticed many people don\'t like it but I think as long as the number of files is manageable it\'s adequate. What do you guys think?

z.
Title: Documents Tab?
Post by: josiahbryan on June 08, 2004, 07:51:31 am
zenyatta: I agree with you - doc tab seems good for small amounts of files, but when you get up into 50, 100, 500 files - well, the flat view just dont cut it.

Try the modified launcher that I put together based on the oz3.2 ROM - it removes all the tabs and replaces them with just a filebrowser. See the screenshot at http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=2049 (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=2049) or download the initrd at http://www.freewebs.com/josiahbryan/initrd.bin (http://www.freewebs.com/josiahbryan/initrd.bin). Nothing is really changed in this from from oz3.2 except for the launcher. If you want to get just the launcher w/o having to flash - email me and ill see what i can do.
Title: Documents Tab?
Post by: Mickeyl on June 08, 2004, 08:20:33 am
Why do you work outside of the Opie team? It would seem naturally if such a small open source developer community would work together. You could integrate your launcher as an optional view into the Opie launcher and would have the benefit of some skilled people looking over it.
Title: Documents Tab?
Post by: josiahbryan on June 08, 2004, 08:29:15 am
*sigh* it seems we\'ve had this discussion before - just a sense of de ja vu.  Anyway - i wouldnt mind working inside the opie community - seems like a smart choice. The problem is my small brain cant comphrehend the abstractness of the community. How do I become part of working \"inside\" the Opie team? Is it by submitting code to the cvs? Is it by emailing diffs to the opie-dev list? Is it by just posting code for all to see? Please do tell me - im open to whatever you define as being part of working inside the opie dev community.

--
~josiah
Title: Documents Tab?
Post by: Mickeyl on June 08, 2004, 10:14:48 am
Hmm... yes, we started that discussion and you concluded with you want to think about it. If I had been offered the chance to participate on an open source project which goes in the same direction as my standalone work, I would have been slightly more enthusiastic... then again it maybe just me being overenthusiastic to do unpaid work... who knows.

As for your question... being a member of the Opie community means more than just using the opie cvs and supplying code. It means helping to decide where Opie as the one and only open source PDA environment for Qt-Embedded should go.

Maybe I\'m dead wrong in trying to get the community work together. Maybe there is really no use nor interest in Opie at all. In this case I think we should discuss cancelling the project at all and look for something else to bring the open source PDA community forward. This also should be discussed on opie-devel@handhelds.org

I think it makes no sense to artificially keep a project alive when there\'s no need for it (hence no fun working on it when you don\'t like to work alone).

So, if you think we shouldn\'t bother working on OZ and Opie, make us know it. It was fun while it lasted but with that few people contributing it\'s no longer fun.
Title: Documents Tab?
Post by: josiahbryan on June 08, 2004, 10:21:59 am
Duly chastised. I think you are right, mickey. You are right that the community needs to work together. As for use/interst in opie - I like the quality...actually, before I continue making a fool of myself here - I\'ll continue my comments on opie-devel@handhelds.org.