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Everything Else => Sharp Zaurus => Model Specific Forums => Distros, Development, and Model Specific Forums => Archived Forums => Cxx0 General discussions => Topic started by: Micla on June 03, 2004, 04:55:54 am
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In comparing the Zaurus\'s, I need to have comparative elements between the cheapest SL-C 700 and the one above.
I simplify the problem saying that SL-C 760 & 860 are excessively similar, and that the 860 is not worth the price difference with the 760.
My main question is : what are the true technical reasons not to take a basic SL-C 700 ? what are its limitations ? Is it for example unable to read a video, which the 760 would be able to do ? Are there Linux limitations due to the lack of memory (64 MB) on the 700 ? But if I use a CF Card, is it impossible to dedicate some memory place on it to extend Linux memory ?
Well, I think that these brutal questions should make react the community ...
Micla.
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Additional question : Is it necessary to remain with the \"Embedix\" Linux provided with the SL-C 700 ? What is the difference, adavntages and drawbacks of it compared with the OpenPDA Linux of the SL-C 760 ?
Still Micla.
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The c760 and the c860 are identical hardware speaking. The C700 only has 32megs of sdram (for running programs in) and having a c860 myself i think that this would make an appreciable difference. The C700 has a pxa250 processor, which had a bug for which i think there is a software workaround. The battery life is a little over half the c860... myself i would take a cx60.
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At least in Japan the C760 was the same price as the C860, except they stopped making the C760 when the C860 was brought out here. I think the cheaper prices you may see for the C760 are distributors trying to get rid of them to make space for new stock.
I occasionally find I\'m stretching the memory on my C760, I could imagine having anything less.
Stu
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I\'ve found that the C700 isn\'t that bad if you make a swap file. It would be nice to have the extra RAM and battery life, but I really don\'t see how it could be worth the extra $200+.
CPU speed isn\'t much of an issue if you get a newer kernel that disables the workaround that Sharp implemented. After about 6 months of use, I haven\'t noticed any problems from that \"bug\" that the workaround was supposed to fix. The extra storage of the 760 is absolutely worthless for me since I have about 768 MB worth of flash cards in my Z most of the time.
So if you\'re 17 and jobless like me, I\'d say the obvious choice is the C700. If you have $200 to burn that couldn\'t be better spent on things other than 32 MB of RAM and a bigger battery, then go for the CX60.
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Having just purchased a used C700 (and owning a C860) I found when running CACkO 1.21b (i.e. SHARP ROM derivative) the differences were fairly minimal.
The PXA250 bug had a SW workaround in this kernel.
Although I only played around for one night (before flashing pdaXrom on the C700) I didn't notice any appreciable difference... maybe applications started up slower (and the boot sequence was slower) but hardly noticeable.
The biggest difference for end users will be in the RAM/Flash capacity/Battery life (which can be later upgraded if you can get hold of the larger back cover to take the new battery).
I'd say if the saving was $200+ I'd go with the C700 and buy a 512MB card.
Has the same beautiful screen and runs the same SW
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Actually, if you buy the 1700mah EA-BL08 battery, it comes with a free back cover that you can use on the C700 and C750 - so dont worry about finding a larger battery cover.
I agree with rougetrooper, the PXA250 bug is now not much more than a memory. Various kernel optimizations and work arounds have got the benchmarked speed of the C700 close to the C760. The only bad thing is the lack of execution and user space ram/flash. This can be addresses with memory cards and swap space. The new Cacko 1.21b rom even has a graphical swap space applet that addresses this nicely.
The C700 is a great buy for those on a tight budget. However, if you know that you'll be buying the extended battery, take that into consideration when you look at price when comparing with a Cx60 model.
Yz
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I'd say if the saving was $200+ I'd go with the C700 and buy a 512MB card.
Has the same beautiful screen and runs the same SW
I'd say this is good advice.
My bro fell in love with my 860 and decided to save for one, but having looked into it a bit more and considering the low price of a 2nd user C700 at conics, we decided the 700 would be best, any cons against buying one can be addressed later with CF and SD/MMC cards and an extended battery and new ROM. Having bought my 860 - I think it is the best thing since sliced bread but if I was spending the money again I'd get three C700's, give one to my bro and keep two for myself
If it's a C series machine you have set your heart on, any of them would be a good choice, if you can get one and save money, you can use the savings to buy memory.
(Plus I think the C700 and C860 are the best looking machines, but that's a whole different arguement)
Whatever you buy, you will love it - have fun..
-Francis
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(Plus I think the C700 and C860 are the best looking machines, but that's a whole different arguement)
Yes, the 860 looks nice, though I also like the black screen cover of 750. With added large battarey (which comes with the black cover too) the 750 gets probably the best look, IMO
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I have a 700 and a 760 ...
believe me, the extra 32mb RAM is worth it.... get at least a 750.
There's a reason why the 700 isn't being made anymore.
On the otherhand, I'd rather save $300 and have a 700 than not have a 750 :-)
Scott