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General Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Joshp on June 04, 2004, 02:13:48 pm
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I know this was already poseted. But just so that peaple know. Sharp\'s devnet site is backup. Just add
208.40.197.252 zaurus.com www.zaurus.com community.zaurus.com docs.zaurus.com
to your hosts file. Dns sould be back up over the weekend.
JP
P.S. I still think ZUG is better. And also thx tblumer for posting the ip addr.
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dns seems to be working for me ...
Scott
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Well the Sharp Devnet Forums may well be back, but I don\'t really want to have to check two sites, so I\'ll probably stick with these forums, unless support within them seems to dwindle. I wonder if most people will return to the Sharp Site now that it\'s back?
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Just thought I\'d take a look at the devnet and it seems to have disappeared again.
Very strange.
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Maybe they are rebuilding the site, again
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May be thay finaly got it in to there heads that ZUG is better
JP
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This is crap, its up and down like a pair of knickers, we should vote with our feet (or mouse clicks) and boycott it. To hell with it! Rebel! Riot! I have the Springfield mob mentality, I want to tip something over and watch it burn!
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This is crap, its up and down like a pair of knickers, we should vote with our feet (or mouse clicks) and boycott it. To hell with it! Rebel! Riot! I have the Springfield mob mentality, I want to tip something over and watch it burn!
For once I agree with you.
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ooh you cheeky lad!
You should always agree with me ;-) I am the voice of moderation.
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We\'re checking on the down site with the colo center. I agree with you all that the ZUG is the place to go for community cooperation. The Zaurus.com site is not intended to compete with ZUG, but will hopefully provide the downloads of source code, ROMs, etc. that everyone needs.
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We\'re checking on the down site with the colo center. I agree with you all that the ZUG is the place to go for community cooperation. The Zaurus.com site is not intended to compete with ZUG, but will hopefully provide the downloads of source code, ROMs, etc. that everyone needs.
I ask then, why does it need a forum, wouldent it serve the comunity best to just link to the Zug forums?
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I agree, better still. ABANDON devnet, put it to rest and merge with ZUG.
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I can\'t say I agree there, I think devnet is important to some people. It\'s things like manufacturer supported development communities that big biz likes to see. Devnet would also make a safe place for authorized developers to get assistance with proprietary sharp code, like address book stuff.
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like Sharp anytime in the past gave any wee-bit of assistance with its own proprietary Sharp code like address book stuff ???
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Have you ever tried to get some piece of clueless management to approve you developing on a cool new piece of hardware. A few half supported sites and some screenshots go a long way.
Not to mention sharp may have been useless in the past but if we all ever want to make the Zaurus a influential system in the US and Europe then we really need to back sharp up ware ever it may be helpful.
Sharp may have abandoned us in the past but with hardware as cool as the Z do we really want to, or can we afford to stoop to there level and abandon them?
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I agree with gester in his last post and the previous one.
the devnet is from *sharp* ... how good it is, is another point... but it is official.
Scott
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I agree with this as well.
Although I also share most of the negative thoughts about the usefulness/reliability of devnet, anything that Sharp does to support the Z -- ESPECIALLY outside of Japan -- should be encouraged by us because it will benefit us in the long run.
Having said that though, I don\'t think we should put our eggs in the devnet basket. The ZUG should be the site we rely on and anything that Sharp puts on the devnet should be backed up and mirrored on the ZUG (or somewhere).
But let\'s encourage Sharp in any case.
~ray
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Ray,
I agree, by no means should ZUG be alowed to fall by the wayside, it is the beter site by a long way. I think Devnet would serve the corprite development comunity very well however. Given that the forign market suport by Sharp is loosely backed by the \"Head Office\" at best it is very unlikely that devnet will ever be able to provide the level of comunity suport that ZUG does.
On the other side of that coin, there are things that we all want Sharp to play nice with, like opening up the PIM apps. Sharp has made it clear that they are not going to make that code publicly availabe. Do we want as a comuinity to ask the Wonderful admins of ZUG to take on the responsabilty of hosting such propiratery code? If Zug did host such things and somthing went wrong it would be the end of ZUG, not worth the risk in my opinion. If Devnet were to become a place for \"Legal Developers\" to get suport on the closed parts of Sharps code we would all benafit emencely. And really would some world class comercial apps for the Z be a bad thing, it would make it easer for business to justify being a licenced Sharp developer.
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In case anybody cares it\'s back again.
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Gester,
I didn\'t mean to imply that the ZUG should host anything that isn\'t legal.
OTOH, I think that virtually anything Sharp posts publically on the devnet is probably fair game. If they did post the source for the PIMs, I see no reason why it can\'t be mirrored (unless they explictly forbid this, which seems unlikely if their intent is to make it public).
Any support that Sharp provides via devnet is A Good Thing. Encourage them.
But keep fealty with the ZUG.
~ray
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Interesting:
http://www.zaurus.com/dev/add/community.htm (http://www.zaurus.com/dev/add/community.htm)
lists community resources: 3 dead links, 1 not quite dead yet (ZaurusDev), zaurususergoup.com accessible if you follow the link \"Unofficial Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 FAQ\"
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Interesting, applications in the feed at: http://docs.zaurus.com/feed/ (http://docs.zaurus.com/feed/)
are all date 15 May 2004, i.e. quite new.
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Ray,
I think I miss stated myself, I wasent implying that ZUG ever would host anythign that they shouldent. I dont think Sharp is going to show the code for the PIM apps and maybe other things publicly. however it wouldent suprise me to see a section of the site for \"registerd\" (read \"paid out the A**\") users who would have access to said locked code. I dont think this is somthing that ZUG wants to be responsable for, to much work and to risky. Sory that all came out wrong the first time.
Gester
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Interesting, applications in the feed at: http://docs.zaurus.com/feed/ (http://docs.zaurus.com/feed/)
are all date 15 May 2004, i.e. quite new.
Errr..... That\'s just the date they were uploaded, nothing to do with the age of the apps.
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Interesting, applications in the feed at: http://docs.zaurus.com/feed/ (http://docs.zaurus.com/feed/)
are all date 15 May 2004, i.e. quite new.
sloppy admin \"copy\" ? didn\'t preserve dates?
see zaurus.spy.org/feeds/docs-zaurus-com
for original dates..
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Sharp did post API specs to their DTM db
http://community.zaurus.com/project/showfi...0&release_id=75 (http://community.zaurus.com/project/showfiles.php?group_id=40&release_id=75)
Personally, I am very grateful for Sharp producing linux handheld devices that run Qtopia. I wouldn\'t have my current job, if not for Sharp supporting the dev community and having the Sharp Developer Symposium that they did in the beginning.....