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Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 07, 2003, 11:24:08 pm
Today...at the anger of my wife (too much time on a PDA), I very carefully built and compiled a new C760 zImage with the orinoco and spectrum latest drivers and with the monitor patches.  It makes Kismet 3.0.1 run very nicely with a Symbol/Socket card

This kernel is identical to the one on the stock C760...but with the nice drivers.

For those who may not understand the difference between a kernel and ROM...this IS NOT A ROM!!  Its a kernel.  You can still use your favorite Cacko or other Sharp compatible ROM with this.

Now...I just need to get to the right person on this site to upload it.  Anyone know who I need to contact?
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 07, 2003, 11:25:02 pm
Ooops...forgot to post...the drivers fro teh orinoco are at 13e and the spectrum is 0.4.2.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on December 08, 2003, 12:03:53 am
Hi

I can put it on my ftp server until someone uploads it here if you like.

e-mail it to Richard@Swanbourne.com

Once uploaded I will post download instructions for everyone.

Regards

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2003, 01:28:50 am
Richjn,

I have emailed it to you.  Thanks a bunch.

javab0y
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on December 08, 2003, 01:38:00 am
Thanks to javab0y for new kernel to download

ftp login 144.136.242.210
User: Zaurus
Password Zaurus

There are two files visible the kernel is in a zip file caled javab0y_kernel.zip

The other file is for ipkg-new

Regards

Richard

P.S I\'m posting this so quick I haven\'t tried it myself yet but am about too
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2003, 02:19:43 am
Check the dmesg after a boot.  you will see the messages:

Code: [Select]
orinoco.c 0.13e (David Gibson and others)

orinoco_cs.c 0.13e (David Gibson and others)

spectrum_cs.c 0.4.2 (Pavel Roskin and others)


You will be good to go for Kismet.  It works wonderfully.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Mickeyl on December 08, 2003, 05:13:22 am
Very good. I hope you also enabled the generic wireless extension support? Because if so, then that will make Wellenreiter II work on SharpROMs.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2003, 05:40:19 am
Yes, I\'m also hoping you added wireless extensions to the kernel.  As I understand it, you need them to use WEP with these cards.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2003, 11:48:50 am
mickey,

I saw that wireless extensions were on (CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS=y).  Is there another kernel option to enable?  If so I will build another one   I would love to get Wellenreiter running on this baby.  When I run Wellenreiter now, it launches, but complains about the PCAP is not able to run on the interface.  I have libpcap on the machine (Kismet is using it) so I am a little confused about the message.

BTW...I was in Frankfurt a few weeks ago for work...I spent alot of time in Sachsenhausen   The beer is good!

Also...yes WEP is working fine in this kernel...I connect just peachy with the 108 bit WEP
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2003, 12:21:04 pm
Ok...I verified...Wireless Extensions are indeed enabled.  So I guess we just need to figure out whats up with the Wellenreiter/PCAP issue and I guess in theory Wellenreiter should work.

What I have found is Wireless Extensions v13 is on this kernel.  I can patch it to get it up to the v16 release.  I will give that a roll and see if I run into any problems.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2003, 10:07:11 pm
Getting close on Wellenreiter.  Notice the eth0 is statusing \'ok\' for wireless extension calls.  Not sure of the problem now...since libopienet2.so.1 is on the machine.  The error now is undefined symbol: __27OOrinocoMonitoringInterfaceP17ONetworkInterface.  Any hints would be helpful.  Ithink I am close. BTW this is on the Cacko 1.18 ROM.  The error dump is below.

Code: [Select]
Display size = 480x640

ONetwork::ONetwork()

ONetwork: This code has been compiled against Wireless Extensions V11

ONetwork: found interface \'lo\'

ONetworkInterface::ONetworkInterface()

ONetworkInterface::init()

ONetwork: found interface \'eth0\'

ONetworkInterface::ONetworkInterface()

ONetworkInterface::init()

OWirelessNetworkInterface::OWirelessNetworkInterface()

OWirelessNetworkInterface::init()

OWirelessNetworkInterface::buildChannelList(): Driver for wireless interface \'eth0\'overwrote buffer

end with at least 2 bytes!

 

OWirelessNetworkInterface::buildChannelList(): Interface eth0 reported to have 14 channels.

OWirelessNetworkInterface::buildChannelList(): Channel list constructed.

OWirelessNetworkInterface::buildPrivateList()

ONetworkInterface::wioctl (eth0) call 35597 - Status: Ok.

OWirelessNetworkInterface::buildPrivateList(): Private IOCTL list constructed.

ONetwork: interface \'eth0\' has Wireless Extensions

ONetworkInterface::ioctl (lo) call 35585 - Status: Failed: -1 (Operation not supported)

ONetworkInterface::ioctl (eth0) call 35585 - Status: Ok.

QObject::connect: No such slot QListView::expand(QListViewItem*)      

QObject::connect:  (sender name:   \'unnamed\')

QObject::connect:  (receiver name: \'unnamed\')

QObject::connect: No such slot QListView::expand(QListViewItem*)

QObject::connect:  (sender name:   \'unnamed\')

QObject::connect:  (receiver name: \'unnamed\')

ManufacturerDB: reading manufacturer list from \'/home/QtPalmtop//share/wellenreiter/manufacturers.dat\'...

[19:54:52] (i) Wellenreiter has been started.

 

[19:54:52] (i) Running on \'OpenZaurus\'.

 

QObject::connect: No such slot MScanListView::cleanupEventFilter()

QObject::connect:  (sender name:   \'unnamed\')

QObject::connect:  (receiver name: \'unnamed\')

show configure...

wellenreiter: error while loading shared libraries: wellenreiter: undefined symbol: __27OOrinocoMonitoringInterfaceP17ONetworkInterface                
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Taim on December 08, 2003, 11:07:04 pm
Mirrored Javab0y\'s zipped kernel on ZUG downloads.  It can be found here (http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=UpDownload&file=index&req=viewsdownload&sid=13).
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on December 08, 2003, 11:37:15 pm
Thanks to Taim and offroadgeek for posting the files I have been hosting to the ZUG downloads. I am now taking user Zaurus of my sytem but if I can help in a \"crisis\" again let me know.

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Mickeyl on December 09, 2003, 12:44:01 pm
Quote
BTW...I was in Frankfurt a few weeks ago for work...I spent alot of time in Sachsenhausen   The beer is good!

Hey coolness, I live directly in Sachsenhausen... we could\'ve met for a beer

Quote
wellenreiter: error while loading shared libraries: wellenreiter: undefined symbol: __27OOrinocoMonitoringInterfaceP17ONetworkInterface

That looks like your Wellenreiter II ipk does not match the date of your libopie2.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2003, 02:22:23 pm
SUCCESS!!!  Wellenreiter is running on the Sharp ROM.  This blows Kismet away!

I used the feed from Mickey\'s site http://www.vanille.de/feed/sharp/ (http://www.vanille.de/feed/sharp/), so I am using v .99 of Wellenreiter, etc.

The one PITA is...it wants to be run as root.  When I run it from a command line as root , it gives me a message:

\"Qt/Embedded data directory is not owned by user 0\"

So...I did a chown on the /tmp/qtembedded-zaurus as root:qpe.  Then it ran.  This is a bad kludge since this will lock up the zaurus.  Any work around for this?
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2003, 04:43:41 pm
Ok...Wellenreiter works nice now.  The magic to getting it to work was to edit /opt/QtPalmtop/qpe.sh.

You must make the following cahnges:

QPEUSER=root
QPEGROUP=root

Reboot the zaurus and you are in business.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2003, 04:49:38 pm
BTW...from the looks of things, Cacko\'s X11 ROM seems to use the C760 stock kernel too, so this kernel should work with that ROM as well.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: chacs on December 10, 2003, 01:22:55 am
hi,

how to \"inject\" the spectrum/orinoco source into the kernel source ?

the kernel source is in drivers/net/wireless ?

do i just replace all files of the same name (and ignore any \'extra\' files, such as orinoco_pci.c and spectrum_cs.4, from the spectrum/orinoco source) ?

any changes is required for Config.in ?

any changes is required for Makefile ?

Thanx.

-cs
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jsywong on December 11, 2003, 11:20:24 am
hi, I need help installing wellenreiter.  i have got the ipkg_0.99.37-20030108-sharprom_arm.ipk and libopie_0.9.1-200212114.ipk installed.  when i try to install libopie2_1.8.1-20030718.2_arm.ipk it gives me the error \"ipkg: /debian-binary: Read-only file system\" but there is no such directory.  so i am a little confused.  when i went ahead and try to install wellenreiter, it gives me the same error msg.  any help will be great apprieciated. thx
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: mk500 on December 11, 2003, 11:27:53 pm
I had hoped this new kernel might also fix the \"signal low\" message that constantly flashes across the screen, but it\'s still there. Is there another way to fix this problem that anyone is aware of?
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2003, 01:07:05 am
Ok...answers...

First...ignore the errors when installing those libopies.  I checked and they install anyways. Don\'t worry about the debian-binary, it just a text file in the ipk.  The reason it says it fails is is the package runs ldconfig which the zaurus user cannot run, only root can run it.  If you edit the qpe.sh script first as I described above, then reboot, the packages should install without the error.  But nevertheless, they install...even as the zaurus user...you just get that ugly message.

Second...once you get everything installed...go to a prompt and type in:

cardctl scheme CardResume
cardctl scheme qpewlan0
cardctl reset

Then start wellenreiter.  Go to the config screen and select your driver.  If you are socket/symbol based, then select orinoco, otherwise select the driver you use.  Save the settings.  Then select start.  It should start sniffing and you should start seeing activity.  if you don\'t, select stop, then select start again.  once it running...its sweet.  If you get it to that point, I can post a script and a change to make to the App parameters to make launching it more easy.

Also...for the signal low...this is not a driver problem.  Its a problem in the network applet.  The network applet expects the driver to report in percentages, and it does not (although I guess we probably could change the driver to do so...something to think about).  You can take the applet from a SL5600 and replace the plugin applet in a C760.  This will fix the problem.   However, you may also need to copy over the libsl.so file...and this gets more complex as other things need to get hacked.  If Sash\'s 1.18 ROM did not fix the english tabs and sorting, I can make a post on how to convert Sash\'s ROM into a purely english version with the SL5600 libsl.  But it will be a long post...so lets see what happens.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2003, 01:22:17 am
Oh yeah...I forgot to say...after installing the libopies, you need to install libpcap.  You can get it off the http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/ (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/) site.  You will need the Opie ipkg-new installer to install the library.  Post if you get Wellenreiter working or have difficulties.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Mickeyl on December 12, 2003, 08:04:06 am
Quote
I had hoped this new kernel might also fix the \"signal low\" message that constantly flashes across the screen, but it\'s still there. Is there another way to fix this problem that anyone is aware of?

The signal low message is not a problem of the kernel, it\'s a buggy implementation in Qtopia/Sharp. You could implement an ugly work around in the spectrum drivers, but I rather recommend fixing Qtopia/Sharp.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jsywong on December 12, 2003, 11:56:27 am
javaboy, i think its you, i have tried everything that you have said step by step and i am getting somewhere but not quite there yet.  for details i have c760 running of Cacko rom with the new kernal and 96mb mod with WCF12.  now, my card works fine after i make the alteration with the wlan-ng.conf file.  so that might be something to think about.
now the problem i am running into is this.  when running the commands that you said, the three cardctl commands, the second command cardctl scheme qpewlan0, it will get stuck.  and when i ctrl-c it, it gives me the message some devices did not start cleanly.  now that when i run wellenreiter, it says that the device is not configured properly.  and my card just keeps on blinking. thx for ur help.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 12, 2003, 02:08:16 pm
You are almost there...very close...

I assume you have installed the kernel I put together.  Second...the error message after you do the second command may very well look like it fails.  Thats ok...thats why we do the cardctl reset.  So do this...pull the card from the C760...count to 3...then place it back in.  Now only issue the following:

cardctl scheme qpewlan0

You may very well get an error messge.  Thats ok.  now issue:

cardctl reset.

It shoudl make the card start blinking (takes it out of suspend mode).

Now before running wellenreiter, try issuing an ifconfig at a command prompt.  Be sure that eth0 is showing.  If it is not..repeat what I just posted a couple of times.  Sometimes just pulling and reinserting the card works.  Once you see eth0 on an ifconfig listing, you are ready for the next step.

Issue an iwconfig and verify that wireless extnsions are on on eth0.  You will know this if it lists eth0 and a whole bunch of information is listed along with it. Finally, issue a iwpriv eth0 and look for \"monitor\" in the lsit.  If you don\'t see the word monitor in the list, then you have not installed my kernel.  If you do see it..then you are ready for wellenreiter.

Start wellenreiter, and select configure.  Select the orinoco driver and be sure eth0 is selected for the interface. After this close the dialog and select the \"start\" menu item under sniffer.  You should start seeing access points.  If you don\'t, select stop, then start again.  Voila...you shoudl eb sniffing at this point.

Javab0y
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 16, 2003, 11:10:26 am
sorry for taking so long to get back, but the problem is that i dont have wireless extension.  now i have reflash the javaboy kernal, and wipe the flash.  so i dont know what is wrong, is there something i need to do to start the wireless extensions.  checking sysinfo, i confirm that the kernal is
2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-emb
Compiled by:
javab0y@savoirtech.com
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on December 16, 2003, 12:21:47 pm
Follow the directions above and you should be good to go.  The directions will show if you have wireless extensions available.  Based on your sysinfo...you have them.  You need to have your wireless card in the Zaurus to activate the extensions.  Follow the directions and you should be fine.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: yzord on January 04, 2004, 01:33:45 am
Hey javaboy, I\'m afraid I have to chime in and indicate that your instructions are not working for me either... This is with tkcROM 2.5.1, and using the Wellenreiter package that\'s included on proto\'s feed.

This is the issue - while cardctl scheme qpewlan0, and cardctl reset appear to work, iwconfig indicates no devices on eth0. Starting wellenreiter brings up a popup that asks me if I want to disable the dhcp client (I\'ve tried both yes and no on different occasions), but in the Config window, I cannot select my card under \"Name\" (there are no choices) and using wlan-ng or Orinoco (my card is a Linksys WCF12, which is a prism2 card) both bring up the error \"Device is not configured correctly\".
At this point in time, cardctl scheme qpewlan0 is no longer necessary (\"scheme unchanged\"), and it\'s in discovery mode as soon as I pop the card in (flashing). cardctl reset turns the led to solid (which I gather is not proper). Strangely enough Kismet is working like a champ under the same circumstances (just works right off). While I like Kismet and it works well, I would love to give Wellenreiter a chance and see what it can do.

Any help on the matter would be appreciated! Oh, and thanks for all the hard work getting both this kernel compiled, and contributing to the proto feed with your wellenreiter ipks!
Yz
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2004, 03:38:40 am
The reason is you need the hostap drivers and conf file.  We will be releasing a new kernel soon, but if you want to get me your email address, I can send you the new kernel with the hostap drivers installed.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: anonuk on January 04, 2004, 12:57:23 pm
hey javab0y im having the same problems as yzord, could you send me the kernel by any chance with hostap drivers??

my email address is:

order(at)webspinners.co.il  

thx!
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: yzord on January 04, 2004, 12:58:28 pm
Thanks javab0y, I sent you an email via the Zaurus/dev forums (since you dont have an account here).

Yz
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: zbones on January 04, 2004, 02:16:55 pm
I think there are lots of us in the same boat!

Does this mean that we can have wireless extensions with a prism2 based card?

If so, any chance of uploading it here, or emailing to offroadgeek to put up for download?

It would save emailing it to lots of different people, it could replace the kernel you have already uploaded here.

Peter.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2004, 02:31:13 am
Quote
Does this mean that we can have wireless extensions with a prism2 based card? 

Yep

Quote
If so, any chance of uploading it here, or emailing to offroadgeek to put up for download? 

Its going to be released shortly as part of the TKC suite.  I just want to get some feedback from a select few to see if indeed the drivers are working.  Proto and I \"joined forces\"...so it will be available as part of the TKC feed.  The next kernel will have support for most wireless cards and preemptive as well.  So far the preemptive is looking like its allowing the USB to do its thing...but we will be beta-ing the preemptive part as it has had reports of being \"difficult\" or crashing the Z in other kernels.  I only patched it with the preemptive and did not go through all of what ced has done.  Overclocking can be evil and I definately don\'t want to be responsible for frying someone\'s Z.  So I am going to be a bit more conservative on what is going in the kernel.  My goal is to offer up a kernel with as much as possible, while being extremely stable.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: ced on January 05, 2004, 06:14:01 am
be aware that the preemptif patches are not working with bluetooth cards... don\'t know which one but it\'s what I heard...
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 05, 2004, 06:36:50 am
ced

Your post promted me to check and unfortuantly my Socket bluetooth card won\'t work with the premptive patch\'s.  :cry:

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2004, 09:18:23 am
Quote
be aware that the preemptif patches are not working with bluetooth cards... don\'t know which one but it\'s what I heard... 

Yep...same thing here.  Have either of you tried turning on the BLUEZ configuration in the kernel instead of loading it by module to see if this may rectify this problem?  I will do a little research into this.  This will be sad if we need to remove preemptive.  The Hancom apps launch so fast, they practically are ready to use upon tapping the screen.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 05, 2004, 09:20:26 am
Just doing that now but am tired so off to bed. Will post tommorow with results.


Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: tumnus on January 05, 2004, 12:21:50 pm
I just posted in the Special Kernel thread that I had to recompiled the BlueZ Bluetooth drivers against the patched kernel to get them to work with a pre-emptive patched kernel.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: tumnus on January 06, 2004, 06:50:16 pm
I\'ve just uploaded a new BlueZ package to http://community.zaurus.com/projects/bluez/ (http://community.zaurus.com/projects/bluez/) which has the kernel modules recompiled against the 5600 \'special\' kernel, but it may well work for any pre-emptive kernel.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 06, 2004, 07:01:40 pm
Thanks tumnus

I will give it a go now

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 06, 2004, 07:14:44 pm
O.K test complete on 760

First I installed the package with an original Sharp rom. Installation went O.K no errors. I then updated to rfconf to my phones settings and restarted bluetooth output numerous ins mod errors.

Installed preemtif kernel and after re-boot everything works great.

Thanks tumnus great work

Perhaps a note should be added to the download to say \"Only for use on preemtif kernels.

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2004, 11:35:55 pm
This brings a very valid point...should ALL the modules be recompiled against the pre-emptive kernel?  I suspect the USB storage crash issues may also be related.  If we can identify all the modules used for the USB storage, we may be able to stabilize the preemtive kernel with this method.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 07, 2004, 12:07:06 am
Just for the record I\'m not geetting any usb storage crashes on my 760 with tkc 2.51 (which supplies the usb storage modules) and my own preemtif rom.

Anybody else notice any issues ?


Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 07, 2004, 07:50:05 am
I noticed in the download section this kernel is for the 760 only, why wouldn\'t it work in the 750? I thought their kernels were the same?
Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: edl867 on January 07, 2004, 04:14:43 pm
Could someone please give me step by step instructions on how to get the socket low power WIFI card to work with the Sharp 3.13 ROM on the 5500?
My forehead hurts from all the wall banging.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 07, 2004, 05:15:38 pm
Woohoo, thanks javab0y! I took the plunge and loaded your kernel on my C750 (it hasn\'t melted yet    ). I\'m running the latest Cacko Qtopia ROM, at first wellenreiter wouldn\'t work, but once I installed the latest libopiecore and opie-wellenreiter from Mickyl\'s feed it\'s working like a charm!

It seems that the only command I need to run is
Code: [Select]
cardctl reset prior to running wellenreiter.

Thanks again for sharing the kernel!

Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 07, 2004, 05:38:18 pm
jerrybme

Are you using the preemptif kernel ? (just your comment about not melting yet) If so and you still have no problems I will change the download  text to show it as compatable with the 750 as well.

BTW the preemptif + wireless was built by me not javab0y

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 07, 2004, 05:47:21 pm
Sorry Richard! Woohoo should go to you then for the kernel :oops:   Yes, I\'m running the preemptif kernel that was uploaded yesterday to the ZUG. So far no problems (knock on wood). Again thanks for sharing!

Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: ernest on January 07, 2004, 08:26:45 pm
Richjn, I\'m getting a \"forbidden\" error when I try to download the preemptif kernel from the download section of the zaurususergroup.com server, whether I\'m logged in as my username or not. Also, the community.zaurus.com server appears to be down. Is there somewhere else I can obtain the kernel from?

Thanks.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 07, 2004, 09:26:21 pm
ernest

for a short time I will re-enable my ftp server

144.136.242.210

Logon Zaurus (capita Z)
password Zaurus (Capital Z)

you need kernel C

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: ernest on January 07, 2004, 09:40:09 pm
Quote
ernest

for a short time I will re-enable my ftp server

144.136.242.210

Logon Zaurus (capita Z)
password Zaurus (Capital Z)

you need kernel C

Richard


Thank you very much, I\'ve grabbed it. I appreciate your efforts.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 07, 2004, 09:45:05 pm
No Problem

Server back off-line now

BTW ernest I would take a look at your cables modem etc your connection speed was up and down like whores knickers.

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 08, 2004, 05:55:21 pm
Richjn:
Would you concider posting the kernel with the wireless extensions and monitor mode without the CPU overclock? I believe it was the B kernel  posted earlier. While there is a small percieved speed increase, I am concerned about long term use & shorting the life of my Z.

Thanks,
Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 08, 2004, 06:05:18 pm
Oops, when I looked more closely at the download page, I see that javab0y did upload a wireless extension kernel that\'s not overclocked, but it\'s still be nice to have the preemptive and cach erata patches without the overclock. (can\'t hurt to ask) Thanks again to Richjn and javajb0y for sharing thier work.

Cheers,
Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 08, 2004, 07:13:02 pm
OK jerrybme I will post the preemptif + wireless + no overclock


Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 08, 2004, 08:50:46 pm
Just playing around - does anybody know if the cacko rom found here: http://www.cacko.biz/test321/slc7x0-Qtopia...-1910040104.zip (http://www.cacko.biz/test321/slc7x0-Qtopia-1910040104.zip) - supports wellereiter II.

I tried installing everything in the feed on wellenreiter site but it keeps complaing about a missing libpcap.so.0.7 - i can\'t seem to find it anywhere. Am I right that i have to reflash with the kernel from Javaboy or are these changes included in the latest kernel from cacko/sash?

I can run kismet but i think wellenreiter is more cool and has even more cool features :-)

I know i should just ask Sash but he\'s offline and i\'m playing now :-)
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 08, 2004, 10:53:29 pm
Quote
Just playing around - does anybody know if the cacko rom found here: http://www.cacko.biz/test321/slc7x0-Qtopia...-1910040104.zip (http://www.cacko.biz/test321/slc7x0-Qtopia-1910040104.zip) - supports wellereiter II.

No, I tried it too but Sash\'s kernel doesn\'t have the monitor mode patch Richjn\'s kernel does. However, I didn\'t get any lib errors (of course I installed it with the GUI, so there may have been errors I didn\'t know about). It worked great with Richjn\'s kernel and you\'re right about Wellenreiter being a much better sniffer  .

Richjn - Thanks for posting the non-overclocked patched kernel!

Cheers,

Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 09, 2004, 12:35:41 am
I emailed the libopie, libopie2, libpcap, and wellenreiter II IPKs that I compiled with the latest and greatest sources from the Opie site to offroad geek, but I have not seen them on the download feed.  Hopefully he will post those as they all make the installation real simple.

javab0y
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: offroadgeek on January 09, 2004, 01:06:29 am
Quote
I emailed the libopie, libopie2, libpcap, and wellenreiter II IPKs that I compiled with the latest and greatest sources from the Opie site to offroad geek, but I have not seen them on the download feed.  Hopefully he will post those as they all make the installation real simple.

javab0y

what addy did you send them to?  I haven\'t received anything yet.  you could also just tar or zip up the ipks and upload them directly to the ZUG downloads section... I assume they would be under 2mb.  

PS... ernest... you had the wrong urls for the kernel downloads... (don\'t know where you got them), but if you just user your browser to access the ZUG Downloads section and navigate to the kernel_source ] 760... you shouldn\'t have a problem downloading the files...
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 09, 2004, 04:11:55 am
javab0y: Great - hope i can get it to work soon :-)
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 09, 2004, 10:57:04 am
One minor problem, I was having so much fun sniffing my network (and my neighbors), I hadn\'t tried connecting. When I closed Wellenreiter and tried to connect, I found that I kept getting \'Network Device busy\' errors. I am not sure what is causing that but suspect that the Sharp network applet doesn\'t like the Socket drivers and will try setting the card manually with iwconfig. Any one else having this problem?

Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 09, 2004, 11:45:14 am
Try:
cardctl eject
cardctl insert
cardctl scheme default
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 09, 2004, 12:42:37 pm
cardctl eject & insert didn\'t work \'device busy\' error. But I pulled the card and ran cardctl scheme default which did it. Now it connects to network. Thanks Laze!

Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: gryphius on January 09, 2004, 04:11:30 pm
Hello everyone,

Is there any reason this kernel wouldn\'t work on an 860 (stock jp rom)?  I\'d really like to try out all the improved features, but I\'m afraid I don\'t have the necessary skill (yet) to patch and recompile my own.  I\'ve only seen the 750/760 tried with the posted binaries.  Many thanks.

gryph
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 11, 2004, 04:30:12 am
any chance of getting a ROM compiled with wireless extensions for the 5500? I\'ve been wanting to use wellenreiter with my 5500 for the longest time... thanks again.


::
dx
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 11, 2004, 06:35:43 am
Hi dx

I will do one for you but I must make clear that I don\'t have a 5500 or any knowledge about them so it will be built blind. I will just add the wireless kernel stuff as I\'m pretty sure none of the rest (overclock etc) will work.

send me a pm with your email address. If it works for you I will post to the download section here. If I dont get a pm I will presume you don\'t want to be a guinea pig.


Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 11, 2004, 06:06:26 pm
Okay im totally lost - has anyone got the JavaBoy(or any other kernel) and Sash/Cacko Qtopia based rom to work with Wellenreiter and a Prism2 based wifi card.

If so please post a link to where to download the files needed that got i working and maybe a couple of quick words on how. Sash/Mickey and me has been trying for a long time to get it to work so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Everytime we got wireless extensions running it screws up normal Qtopia rom wifi, or wellenreiter won\'t properly reconize the card or maybe not change it into monitor mode. The card is the http://www.senao-usa.com/SL-2511CF.htm (http://www.senao-usa.com/SL-2511CF.htm) card - it works like a charm in Kismet and normally for anything else when i flash with a clean
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: dx on January 11, 2004, 06:35:57 pm
Richjn: I\'ve PM\'d you... I\'m willing to try it out...

Laze: I\'m trying to do the same thing, only with a SL5500 running the tkcROM...

So for everyone else, just to confirm... I should be able to get the sharp rom with a Prism2 based card working with Wellenreiter (and all associated libraries installed) with the addition of a kernel compiled with wireless extensions. Is that correct, or is there something I\'m totally missing?


::
dx
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 11, 2004, 07:38:11 pm
dx

Yep that will do it.

My first problem to work out is what processor to use. I have the 860 source code that I\'ve used to build 7x0 kernels. This includes \"default\" configs for all of the Z\'s including the corgi. Strange thing is that it uses the xscale settings but I thought the corgi used the sa110 processor.

I will build with the default settings (xscale) unless someone knows this doesn\'t work ?


Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: dx on January 11, 2004, 07:50:32 pm
Here\'s sharp\'s official page on building the 3.10 ROM/kernel... don\'t know if it\'s any help... http://www.zaurus.com/dev/support/build_im..._sl5500v310.htm (http://www.zaurus.com/dev/support/build_image_sl5500v310.htm)
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 11, 2004, 07:57:17 pm
dx

You have mail

I will use the old source code if all else fails but I shouldn.t need to.


Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 11, 2004, 07:59:05 pm
Forgot to add I\'ve got to go out for a bit so won\'t see replys for a couple of hours

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 12, 2004, 02:58:00 am
Richjn - i thought you had to use the hostap drivers for proper working prism2 wellenreiter? Which kernel should i use and where to download the correct wellenreiter ipks and libs. If you can point me to it and i can get it to work i will add it to the FAQ and How-to-docs.

Are anyone else using Cacko Rom and Prism2 based card wih wellenreiter?
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 12, 2004, 06:40:35 am
Hi Laze

Not sure how much help I can be here.

In order to get Wellenreiter / Kismet to work you need to enable monitor mode for the prism drivers. The route I took was to download the latest Spectrum (0.4.2) and apply the latest orinoco patch againt them (0.14 beta or 0.13 stable) I then copied these directly over the existing 860 source code in linux/drivers/net and recompiled the kernel. I am currently using the tkc 2.51 rom and got my copy of Wellenreiter from their feed along with the required libpcap. Thats it nothing else required.

As far as which kernel to use either mine or javab0y\'s posted here in ZUG downloads will work however if you use the preemptif versions you may need to recompile your bluetooth modules against it. I\'m using the bluez recompiled by tumnus.

If you like I will email you the pre-patched wireless folder so you can just copy it into your own source--send me a pm with an email address.


Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 12, 2004, 07:26:10 am
Quote
Are anyone else using Cacko Rom and Prism2 based card wih wellenreiter?
Laze- I\'m using the latest Cackp Qtopia ROM and have wellenreiter working with Richjn\'s kernel. Go to Mickeyl\'s Sharp feed for the ipks (wellenreiter and the opie libs)http://www.vanille.de/feed/sharp/ (http://www.vanille.de/feed/sharp/)
Cheers,
Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 12, 2004, 08:10:31 am
jerrybme & Richjn - it all i need the kernel and the ipk from the link http://www.vanille.de/feed/sharp/ (http://www.vanille.de/feed/sharp/) ?

Does your interfaces show up as eth0 or wlan0? I will try to install the Richjn kernel and try again - but i have tried many different version and each time i didn\'t get any wireless extensions until i installed the prism2.ipk drivers :-(

But i will try again.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 12, 2004, 08:17:49 am
Laze

eth0 for me.

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 12, 2004, 08:21:22 am
Okay - will try it now..

Im gonna be using the javab0y kernel - couldn\'t find a rar packager at work and don\'t want to install any thing on my brand new sparkling asus laptop yet :-)
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 12, 2004, 08:37:08 am
Laze-
eth0 for me too. Last week, when I was testing Sash\'s kernel against Richjn\'s, I was getting wireless extensions with Sash\'s kernel (iwconfig) that comes with the Qtopia ROM, but the monitoring mode wasn\'t available. I don\'t understand why you\'d need to install the prism2.ipk, weird. I\'ll try iwconfig on a clean install of Sash\'s ROM to see I can recreate that.
Cheers,
Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 12, 2004, 08:39:18 am
Just installed javab0y kernel and did a format of flash - iwconfig shows no wireless extensions and it shows up as eth0.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 12, 2004, 01:45:23 pm
Quote
Just installed javab0y kernel and did a format of flash - iwconfig shows no wireless extensions and it shows up as eth0.

Weird indeed, if I remember correctly (a BIG if) I was getting wireless extensions on with the default kernel even before I replaced it with Richjn\'s kernel and before I restored the backup of all the ipks I use on Qtopia.

Also remembered that I had to install an opie-ipkg package to allow opie ipks to install properly (not that it will help your current problem).

I\'ll try the fresh install tonight when I get home.

Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2004, 02:42:07 pm
According to http://www.kismetwireless.net/cards.shtml (http://www.kismetwireless.net/cards.shtml), the D-Link 660W should be usable through wlan-ng or requires the hostap drivers.  I have a new kernel that will be released shortly with the hostap drivers compiled in...so this ultimately should work.

I would do a cardctl ident on your card and verify that its in your wlan-ng.conf file.  That may make all the difference in the world.  There are alot of threads on being sure the cardctl ident info is in your conf files, just do a search.

If this still does not work, I can try to get you the hostap version of my kernel.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2004, 02:49:46 pm
Oh yeah...this link might help people identify what drivers are required for thier respective card.

http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html (http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html)

Also...the link in the last posting I made at Kismet will show which cards have major problems running under Linux.

Finally, yes the stock kernel of C760 has wireless extensions on, but is very limited in which cards have modues that are compiled into the kernel.  The specrtum/orinoco drivers in the stock kernel are very old and did not have the Snax monitor patches compiled in, and thus the reason I updated them.  Also keep in mind they did not activate the Aironet or Wavelan drivers, which may hinder some users.  Also, they did not include the hostap driver, which my new kernel will include.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 12, 2004, 05:52:15 pm
Okay this i what i get when doing a cardctl ident:
Socket 0:
  product info: \"INTERSIL\", \"HFA384x/IEEE\", \"Version 01.02\", \"\"
  manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002
  function: 6 (network)  

And the the card it \"popups\" as, take from the wlan-ng.conf:
card \"Intersil PRISM2 Reference Design 11Mb/s 802.11b WLAN Card\"
   version \"INTERSIL\", \"HFA384x/IEEE\"
   bind \"prism2_cs\"

I still have no luck getting wireless extensions working - is that prism2_cs ok?
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: yzord on January 12, 2004, 07:54:55 pm
I\'ll throw in my two bits here - Wellenreiter is not working for me either (Linksys WCF12, Prism2_cs). iwconfig shows no wireless extensions. Unfortunately, while javab0y was kind enough to let me try out the new hostap compiled kernel, it still did not work.
I\'d love to know if _anyone_ has been able to get Wellenreiter working with a prism2 chipset wifi card.

Yz
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2004, 12:43:19 am
Laze,

You need to put that information in the wlanng.conf file, especially the part about:

manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002

yzord,

Did you do the same thing with the cardctl ident and be sure you try the values in wlanng.conf and if it doesn\'t work there, try it in the hostap.conf file?
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 13, 2004, 06:09:19 am
Okay inserted the manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 on a new line after
Code: [Select]
card "Intersil PRISM2 Reference Design 11Mb/s 802.11b WLAN Card"

Still no wireless extensions :-( Any good suggenstions?
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 14, 2004, 09:28:58 am
Which drivers do your prism2 cards use - my uses \"prism2_cs\" but according to mike it has to use \"hostap_cs\" in order to work with Wellenreiter!
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2004, 04:26:41 pm
Laze,

PM me your email address and I will email you my kernel with hostap built into it.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: yzord on January 15, 2004, 12:00:46 am
I put identical entries in both wlan-ng.conf and hostap.conf file, but it didnt work (values I got out of \"cardctl ident\"). I also tried changing the WCF12 entry in wlan-ng.conf (bind \"hostap_cs\") but this just made it such that the card wouldnt even get recognized.

Hope you have more luck than I have Laze...
Yz
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 15, 2004, 08:28:45 am
javab0y - there is no way to pm you - but e-mail at mss[at]stofa[dot].dk
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 15, 2004, 11:54:23 am
Laze,

When I get on my other machine (Linux) I will email you the kernel...I am 99% sure the hostap drivers will work for you.

Yzord,

Please try the following...apparently the wlan-ng.conf has bad info for the prism_cs driver...use this instead of the other WCF12 reference in the wlan-ng.conf:

card \"Linksys WCF12 11Mbps 802.11b WLAN Card\"
version \"Linksys\", \"Wireless CompactFlash Card\"
bind \"prism2_cs\"

Also, remove the entry from the host_ap.conf please.  Then reboot.  I am hopeful this will work for you. If it does not, try this in the wlan-ng.conf:

card \"Linksys Wireless CompactFlash Card\"
manfid 0x028a, 0x0673
bind \"orinoco_cs\"

Reboot again.  Report back if either of these was successful.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 15, 2004, 12:12:28 pm
javab0y: Will \"normal wifi\" then also work?
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 15, 2004, 12:54:38 pm
Yes it should.  Actually hostap is one of the more \"thorough\" drivers...so I think you will me fine.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 15, 2004, 01:09:56 pm
Okay - looking forward to try it..
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 16, 2004, 06:58:15 pm
javab0y - didn\'t get anything from you :-)
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2004, 08:35:28 pm
Laze,

I just sent it, but you won\'t receive it until tomorrow because I just switched ISPs and the DNS needs to propogate (your provider is rejecting the mail because it can\'t find my domain).  Check your mail and as soon as the DNS propogates (likely beginning after midnite PST), you should be good to go.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 17, 2004, 03:11:37 pm
Super..
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: yzord on January 19, 2004, 12:43:15 pm
Quote
Yzord,

Please try the following...apparently the wlan-ng.conf has bad info for the prism_cs driver...use this instead of the other WCF12 reference in the wlan-ng.conf:

card \"Linksys WCF12 11Mbps 802.11b WLAN Card\"  
version \"Linksys\", \"Wireless CompactFlash Card\"  
bind \"prism2_cs\"

Also, remove the entry from the host_ap.conf please.  Then reboot.  I am hopeful this will work for you. If it does not, try this in the wlan-ng.conf:

card \"Linksys Wireless CompactFlash Card\"  
manfid 0x028a, 0x0673  
bind \"orinoco_cs\"  

Reboot again.  Report back if either of these was successful.

Okay, the first method did not work, same issues as before, yadda yadda yadda.

However, the second method worked (using the orinoco driver)! After a bit of coaxing, (cardctl reset, followed by CardResume, then qpewlan0), iwconfig came up with eth0 having a bunch of info. At this point, runnning wellenreiter and setting the name to eth0, plus autoconfig will use the orinoco driver, allows it to work.

However, there is some issues though. At this point, Kismet is not working anymore (understandable, as it is using a non prism2 driver) and I\'m not sure if I can go online anymore (cant seem to connect properly). I will do some more tests later and report as to wifi usage.

Anyone know how to use the graph in Wellenreiter?

Yz
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2004, 10:09:15 am
Yzord,

Did you edit the kismet.conf file to use the orinoco driver?
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: yzord on January 20, 2004, 12:01:45 pm
Hey javab0y,
Thanks for the tip about the kismet.conf driver setting- unfortunately, it didnt work (\"source=orinoco,eth0,kismet\"),. Kismet now wont work at all (gives me a \"Cannot connect to Server\" error everytime).

Also, I realized something that makes the orinoco driver impossible to keep for long term use. While it will work fine with Wellenreiter, changing the driver to orinoco_cs makes the Z recognize the wifi card as a LAN card instead. Because of this, the network connector will not allow me to use the WIFI connection settings to log into access points (as it thinks it\'s a lan card). Therefore, it\'s impossible to use it like a normal wifi card... Is there a way around this (like making it come up as wlan0 instead of eth0)?

Yz
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2004, 11:22:02 pm
Hmmmm...that one I have to think about...I run my wifi card on eth0 all the time.  At any rate, I would assume that you should be able to bind the wifi card to wlan0 with a few ifconfig calls.  I need to look/think about this.

As for the kismet issue..when you get the cannot connect to server...do you have the rest of the output?  That typically means the kismet_monitor and server didn\'t fire up to listen on 2501.  You may wish to fire these up one at a time.  There should be other error messages when you run it...that show the problem in greater detail.  Run it from the command line and you will see the problems.  Also...what version of Kismet are you running?
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: crazy-b on January 23, 2004, 04:33:36 am
javab0y: could I get a version of your kernel with hostap-drivers, too? or do you plan to make them public? Since I have a prism2 card, which works with the wlan-ng-drivers, but I\'d really like to have wireless extensions and iwpriv working (corrently showing 0 private ioctls)
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: ZeeUser on January 27, 2004, 11:01:17 am
I have been trying for the past two days to get Wellenreiter II working with the latest version of theKompany ROM, with no success. Extensive searches of the Sharp and ZUG forums led me to the javab0y kernel (http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=UpDownload&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=160&ttitle=760/750_premptif+wireless+no_overclock). A post in this thread mentions that after the kernel update the Version tab of the Sytem Info app should show \"Compiled by:
javab0y@savoirtech.com\". However, after numerous updates it still shows \"compiled by: root@localhost.localdomain\". Iwconfig confirms that there are still no wireless extensions.  Here are the steps I took to flash the kernel:
1) Extracted zImage.bin from RAR archive
2) Placed zImage.bin and updater.sh (from latest tkcROM) in root of empty, FAT-formated SD card
3) Followed instructions here (http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpWiki&file=index&pagename=Custom7x0ROM)

I also tried the kernel update with an empty, FAT-formated CF card. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for any and all help!



Zaurus SL-C760
tkROM 2.5.1
Netgear MA701 CF WI-FI Card
256MB Panasonic SD
128MB Sandisk CF
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 27, 2004, 04:29:54 pm
ZeeUser

The kernel that displays root@localhost etc is mine there are three available from ZUG downloads and all supply wireless exstensions.

Toi check if you have wireless exstensions functioning.

1) Insert your wifi card
2) Connect to AP
3) From the console type iwconfig

If you get some text about wireless your up.

To install Wellenreiter you need wellenreiter libpcap libopie1 libopie2 which if you are using a 7/8x0 with tkc rom 2.5.1 is all available from the proto feed.

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 27, 2004, 09:06:55 pm
Richjn:
Sorry; I was suffering from a combination of info overload, misinformation, and frustration  :?
I hate to be a pain, but iwconfig is still showing no wireless extensions. I am a Linux noob, so I am mostly dependent on others for Zaurus troubleshooting. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Also, thanks for the quick response and your custom kernel!
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: ZeeUser on January 27, 2004, 09:11:31 pm
Quote
Richjn:
Sorry; I was suffering from a combination of info overload, misinformation, and frustration  :?
I hate to be a pain, but iwconfig is still showing no wireless extensions. I am a Linux noob, so I am mostly dependent on others for Zaurus troubleshooting. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Also, thanks for the quick response and your custom kernel!
Oops; forgot to login   :roll:
The preceding post is mine
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 28, 2004, 01:57:40 am
Can I have a bit more info please like

What Z do you have
what wifi card
Can you connect to the internet with the wifi card
run ifconfig from console (after connecting) what does eth0 report

Just to repeat myself (sorry) if your not connected to your ap / ad-hoc you wont get anything when you run iwconfig so make sure you are connected first.

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: ZeeUser on January 28, 2004, 08:00:10 am
Zaurus SL-C760
Netgear MA701 CF Wi-Fi
I can connect to the internet (through wireless AP/Router) with no problems

All the following is done while connected to AP:
# ifconfig eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:09:5B:03:12:E2           inet addr:192.168.1.102  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0           UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:819 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:989 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:100           RX bytes:1148717 (1.0 Mb)  TX bytes:41260 (40.2 Kb)           Interrupt:39
lo        Link encap:Local Loopback           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0           RX bytes:0 (0.0   TX bytes:0 (0.0  

# cardctl ident Socket 0:   product info: \"NETGEAR\", \"MA701 Wireless CF Card\", \"\"   manfid: 0xd601, 0x0002   function: 6 (network) Socket 1:   no product info available

# iwconfig
lo        no wireless extensions.  
eth0      no wireless extensions.

I looked back through this thread last night and some some posts about adding the cartctl ident info to the wlan-ng.conf and/or hostap.conf files. Do you think this might help me?

Thanks for the quick reply!
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 28, 2004, 11:09:44 am
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# iwconfig  
lo        no wireless extensions.  
eth0      no wireless extensions.

Have you tried running
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#cardctl scheme CardResume

#cardctl scheme qpewlan0

#cardctl reset


before running iwconfig?

I ended up writing a script with those commands to use before running Wellenreiter. To return my card to usability for wlan connection, I run
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cardctl scheme default

Cheers,

Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: ZeeUser on January 28, 2004, 08:51:01 pm
jerrybme:
Is the Zaurus supposed to be connected to an access point before entering the cardctl commands? Anyways, I have tried it several times (with and without being connected) with the same results: eth0 shows no wireless extensions.    
Any other ideas?
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 28, 2004, 09:42:27 pm
Sorry for slow response but too busy at the moment.

The Netgear MA401 uses the wlan-ng drivers that I didn\'t patch you could try adding the following to /home/etc/pcmcia/spectrum.conf

card \"NETGEAR\" , \"MA701 Wireless CF Card\"
manfid 0xd601, 0x0002\"
bind \"spectrum_cs\"

If this fails try deleting the entry for your card in home/etc/pcmcia/wlanng.conf

But remember to write down what it says so you can put it back if this doesn\'t work.

NOTE you will need to restart the pcmia device after each adjustment easy way to do is just to reboot device.


Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: ZeeUser on January 28, 2004, 09:51:32 pm
More info:
cardctl ident correctly identifies the wi-fi card as a Netgear MA701. However, the \"card eject\" applet identifies it as a Z-com XI300. There is no entry for the Netgear MA701 in wlan-ng.conf. The entry for the Z-com XI300 has the the same manfid values as the Netgear card, though (the MA701 and the XI300 are the same card, from the same OEM). The Z-com XI300 is bound to prism2_cs.
Also, there is no hostap.conf (or host_ap.conf) file on my Zaurus
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 28, 2004, 10:23:20 pm
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There is no entry for the Netgear MA701 in wlan-ng.conf

Err are you sure ?

Edit just noticed MA701 should be MA401

hostap drivers are not installed as default if you want to try them get them here

http://www.cacko.biz/~sash/laze/ (http://www.cacko.biz/~sash/laze/)

then add the bind bit etc

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on January 29, 2004, 08:09:21 pm
Richjn:
I fully understand that you may be busy right now and don\'t have time to fix a linux noob\'s problems (no sarcasm, really). Anyways, I did not know until now that your kernel was not meant to work with my wi-fi card. If you are willing, though, I would greatly appreciate if you could answer the following questions:

Please clarify what you are saying about the MA401... I am sure that there is no MA701 entry in my wlan-ng.conf file.
Does the system use the \"card\" info in the .conf files to identify the wi-fi card, or is it just user info? I assume that the system is using the Z-com XI-300 configuration info since there is no entry for the Netgear MA701 in wlan-ng or hostap, and the \"card eject\" applet shows it as a Z-com XI-300. Iwconfig correctly identifies it as a Netgear MA701, though. Could this case of mistaken identity have anything to do with the issues I\'m having?

I installed the hostap ipk you linked to and rebooted my zaurus. Iwconfig still shows no wireless extensions. Is there anything I have to do to tell the system to use the hostap driver? Are there any edits to hostap.conf and/or wlan-ng.conf that I may have to make?

Finally, would it just be better/easier for me to get a different wi-fi card? I\'m a bit confused on this, though. This list (http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz) shows only one CF card with a Socket chipset: the Socket WL6000-320 (which also is noted to use proprietary firmware, which doesn\'t sound good for linux users). There were no CF cards which use the Orinoco or Symbol chipsets in that list. So either that list is seriously lacking and/or outdated, or I seriously misunderstand how the updated drivers in your kernel work.

As always, thanks for any and all help!
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: ZeeUser on January 29, 2004, 08:17:00 pm
I *was* logged in a few minutes ago...   :?
The preceding post is mine
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on January 29, 2004, 08:48:11 pm
ZeeUser

Happy to help where I can but I\'m actually a Linux newbie myself although I have done a fair bit of development work with Windows hence the abilty to compile kernels and patch files etc.

Now back to your problem

1) Ignore my comments about MA401 and removing the entry for the MA701 I was tiired and rushing as you say there is no entry for the MA701.

2) The purpose of the of adding an entry into the spectrum.conf is to get the system to use those drivers for your card. (did you try ?)

3) If you have tried and it didn\'t work then remove the entry from spectrum.conf and add the same to hostap.conf

Dont forget to reboot after each change.


Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: ZeeUser on January 29, 2004, 11:33:34 pm
Ok, I have found that the \"card\" info in the .conf file does matter. For some odd reason, the wi-fi card is not recognized when the Netgear MA701 info is used in the \"card\" line. It is recognized when the Z-com XI-300 info is used. I suppose it doesn\'t matter what name the card is recognized as, since they are the same OEM card, but it explains why all of my configuration changes before were ineffective.

Using spectrum_cs caused the card to not be recognized. Using hostap_cs caused it to be recognized as a wired LAN card, though! In other words, there was no wi-fi connection applet in the \"taskbar\", and the wireless connection options in the Network \"control panel\" were greyed out (LAN connection options show as available).

Wellenreiter detected wlan0 and hostap. It locked up when I tried to start scanning, though. I am dead tired right now, so I will have to wait until tomorrow to do any more testing. Any idea on how to get the card back to being recognized as a wireless card?

Here are the results of some tests I ran while using the hostap driver:
# cardctl scheme CardResume
checking: wlan0 Changing scheme from \'default\' to \'CardResume\'...

# iwconfig
lo        no wireless extensions.
Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 12of Wireless Extension, while this program is using version 13. Some things may be broken...
Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 13 of Wireless Extension, but has been compiled with version 12, therefore some driver features may not be available...
wlan0     IEEE 802.11-DS  Mode:Master           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx
invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

# cardctl scheme qpewlan0
checking: wlan0 Changing scheme from \'CardResume\' to \'qpewlan0\'... Some devices did not start cleanly.

# iwconfig lo        no wireless extensions.
Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 12of Wireless Extension, while this program is using version 13. Some things may be broken...
Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 13 of Wireless Extension, but has been compiled with version 12, therefore some driver features may not be available...
wlan0     IEEE 802.11b  Mode:Master  Frequency:2.422GHz           Access Point: 00:09:5B:03:12:E2  Bit Rate:11Mb/s  
Sensitivity=1/3           Retry min limit:8   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off           Power Management:off           Link
Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0          Tx
excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

# cardctl reset

# iwconfig
lo        no wireless extensions.  
Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 12of Wireless Extension, while this program is using version 13. Some things may be broken...  
Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 13 of Wireless Extension, but has been compiled with version 12, therefore some driver features may not be available...  
wlan0     IEEE 802.11-DS  Mode:Master           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx
invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
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Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Laze on January 30, 2004, 04:29:18 am
ZeeUser - i have been having the exact same problems with my card. My log files and output of iwconfig looks the same as yours. So any help will also be highly appreciated - the first one who can help me and ZeeUser getting a \"normal\" wifi working (so it can connect to AP) and also makes it possible to use either wellenreiter or kismet. AP and sniffing of course can\'t run at at the same time :-) At one point i actually think i had normal wifi and kismet working using this kismet http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=116 (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=116) + http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=226 (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=226) and nothing else than normal and plain Cacko Qtopia ROM. I think i will go back to this, but i would really like if i could get the latest wellenreiter running.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: jerrybme on January 31, 2004, 12:37:42 am
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I think i will go back to this, but i would really like if i could get the latest wellenreiter running.
Not to be defeatist but.. you might want to just switch to a Symbol card. Mine works great with Cacko\'s Qtopia & X11 and I\'m running the WellenreiterII that javab0y compliled for Proto\'s latest ROM. Hopefully, it won\'t be necessary and you\'ll get this running soon.

Cheers,

Jerry
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: ZeeUser on January 31, 2004, 02:15:14 pm
Well, that\'s what I\'m going to end up doing. I have been wanting to get a smaller wi-fi card, anyways. My thanks to everyone who tried to help, though.

I found some Symbol CF Wi-Fi cards on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3075084155) for $30 w/ free shipping (an awesome deal!). There were 53 left when I wrote this.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2004, 10:26:32 am
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So any help will also be highly appreciated - the first one who can help me and ZeeUser getting a \"normal\" wifi working (so it can connect to AP) and also makes it possible to use either wellenreiter or kismet. AP and sniffing of course can\'t run at at the same time  

Been playing around with this for a day!!! Eventually it seemed a simple solution! Use the hostap drivers as quoted before....then vi hostap_cs.conf and change the first entry.

change class \"Network\"   to     class \"wlan-ng\"


you will then be able to use normal wifi after.

again use
- cardctl scheme CardResume
- cardctl scheme qpewlan0
- cardctl reset

before starting wellenreiter and check to change to latest wlan in the configuration interface...

hope this helps someone avoid the setting up problems I had with prism2 buffalo.

If you find this confusing just post and I will write a detailed how to

cheers ad
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: zbones on February 21, 2004, 10:59:13 am
Do you have to install a kernel with wifi extensions to get this to work with a prism2 card ( I have the buffalo ard also), or do you just need the hostap drivers?

Peter.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Anonymous on February 22, 2004, 08:39:25 am
Yep I think so, I\'m using Javaboy\'s kernel with cacko Qt rom.
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: LadyBug on March 02, 2004, 03:40:44 am
I\'m somewhat confused right now. I have tried to get Kismet/Wellenreiter working with my Symbol
CF card (bought from eBay for $30+shipping) but no go so far.

I have tried both the javab0y wireless kernel and the other wireless kernel (the \"no overclock\"
version) from ZUG downloads.

The problem is that iwconfig does not show me the monitor mode (other private stuff is shown OK),
So both wellenreiter and kismet tell me that they cannot set the eth0 to monitor mode. This lack
of monitor mode is everywhere explained as \"you\'ve got wrong or old drivers\". But I though the new
kernels in the DL area HAVE the new drivers?

And what is this hostap driver stuff discussed here? Do I need them? Where do I get them?
Or is this a configuration problem?
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: Richjn on March 02, 2004, 04:04:42 am
jayaboys kernel should work fine with your symbol based card. Make sure you are connected to your AP before running iwconfig.

The hostap drivers are an alternative to the symbol drivers and work for some cards. If your symbol card is a bit of an odd one you may want to try these.

Can\'t remeber where I got them from but itry a search. Failing that PM me your email and I will send them to you.

Richard
Title: New kernel for Orinico/Symbol/Socket users
Post by: tamarian on March 03, 2004, 10:31:55 am
Anyone knows where\'s the new location for the hostap_cs?

This is no longer available:

http://www.cacko.biz/~sash/laze/ (http://www.cacko.biz/~sash/laze/)