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General Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gudlyf on June 25, 2004, 05:44:09 pm
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On this page, I see there's an ipk of X11:
http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=591 (http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=591)
However, the page it links to is gone. I'm hoping someone has a copy of this ipk that I can grab or knows where I can get it?
Thanks!
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Try the X/Qt instead, xzaurus is unmaintanied now I think and the X/Qt guys are still developing
X/Qt works well with pocket workstation (debian) too
Stu
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http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/index.html (http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/index.html)
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The last little modification in X/Qt was approximatively 120 days before today (4 months) according to their cvs repository.
A few people like me were wainting for windows rootless mode. The project certainly need X11 developers to acheive this.
It's better than xzaurus thougth.
If you have an SL-C700/750/860 you could try pdaXrom. It works great, there's a lot of powerful applications, wifi / usb works out of the box, applications are optimised for the Intel xcale processor, ipkg manager works great and... what I didn't know... all source code is available. Add to this that the system developpment kit is easy to manage and works since many months (or we wouldn't have pdaXrom running on our Zaurus ...
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However pdaX doesn't have a decent Japanese input system and AFAIK no handwritting input at all.
Also zten and kanjinirvana - my most used apps after opie-reader and ko/pi dont run on pdax.
If you are only after 1 or 2 X apps to run on your Z then Xqt is probably your best bet. But if you want the full power of linux and X on your Z then flash with pdaX - or you can try dual booting from SD card
Stu
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The xfree86 package didn't work that well on the 5500, the touch screen was buggy and it's now rather old as the others said. It also required you to shut down qtopia to run it.
The next step in X11 on Zaurus was to use Qtopia-X (which exports the X desktop over a VNC link) and view it with the keypebble VNC client. This worked well, however having used all of the above I'd recommend you go with Xqt. It's better, easier and more up to date.
Regards,
Si
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Thanks for the pointers! I'll try X/Qt.
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Has anyone installed X/Qt on their SL-5500/5600? I seem to have everything installed correctly, but the Xqt server starts in landscape mode (even if I'm in portrait mode), and the server screen seems overlapped. If I try to move the cursor, forget it. And if I try to start an xterm, its window wraps around. It's all very odd.
Anyone else have these issues?
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I installed it without too many troubles on my 5500 with OZ3.3.6pre1.
the only major issue I had was that some config files were placed in /home/zaurus, and I run as root so I had to copy them across to get it working.
Si
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Hrm, so by default it doesn't start in landscape mode?
Here's a cap of what it starts like when I issue "xinit" or "startx":
[img]http://www.gudlyf.com/media/capa.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]
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Has anybody tryed this on sl5600?
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If you press the menu hardware key, where does the menu pop up?
I'm just wondering whether the whole Qtopia app is rotated, or just X11.
Si
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The menu pops up in the upper-left and displays downwards like it should.
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I have installed X/QtServer (xqt-server_0.0.9_arm.ipk) and a font package (xqt-fonts-misc_1.0.0_all.ipk) but it does not launch at all on my SL5500G with ROM 3.10. Anything else I have to install?
BTW: if someone is interested, I still have a copy of the x11zaurus_0.7_arm.ipk and x11zaurus_0.8_arm.ipk packages because I use the X server as part of myPDA-Zaurus-Edition.
-- hns
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What happens when you try to launch it?
I guess nobody has an answer for my strange rotated-X Server problem.
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What happens when you try to launch it?
Just nothing. The icon is changed to the "launching" view.
Even if I try "run as root".
SL5500 - ROM 3.10
-- dhns
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To get around the corrupted screen on the SL-5500, download the 0.8 version of X/qt and install it over the 0.9 version.
I have it working now, and it works well, except 1 problem...
The X/Qt Server icon, starts xqt and puts an icon on the taskbar but clicking on that icon(if X got hidden behind something else) brings up an error message "Xqt is not responding would you like to force the application to exit?"
Xqt never comes back to the top...
Damn I hate the concept of "nonwindows". the pda has 64mb of mem... hell yes it can run X...my first X11 experience was a 386/40mhz AMD with 4mb of RAM,... yes 4 megabytes....hell I could run xterm and xeyes at the same time...
Anyone have any ideas about the not responding stuff?
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@Gudlyf:
I guess nobody has an answer for my strange rotated-X Server problem.
I'd look in /etc at the X related files. Make sure they are all there, that they are symlinked if you installed to a card. I presume it's these files which handle screen rotation.
Also check that the config files (can't remember the names but they start with a dot) are in your home directory (they are installed to /home/zaurus by default, if you run as root this will cause you problems).
@dhns:
Look back at the 2 old threads in general chat. They list the packages you need. You need the scripts package, you'll also need blackbox I think (otherwise you won't have a window manager). The list is there anyway.
Next thing to do is to run from the command line. startx is the command I think (but you probably don't have this as you've not installed the scripts package.
Si
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Look back at the 2 old threads in general chat. They list the packages you need. You need the scripts package, you'll also need blackbox I think (otherwise you won't have a window manager). The list is there anyway.
Next thing to do is to run from the command line. startx is the command I think (but you probably don't have this as you've not installed the scripts package.
I thought I can just start the X-Server by tapping the X/Qt icon and then use it as a handheld X-Terminal (for a remote or local client). So, a local window manager would be a second step.
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Not sure, but I think you'll still need the scripts package, otherwise xinit never finds the X server (at least that's what happened to me).
Si
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Ok I quit whining and started looking for a solution to the "unable to switch to X" problem I described above...
OpenZaurus 3.3.5 didn't automatically install the tasklist-applet.
I downloaded that from Zaurus Software Index(http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/) and installed it.
The tasklist-applet successfully lets me switch back to the X session. Sweet!
Now X is basically running on my OZ 3.3.5 SL-5500.
Yes, gotta decide on window manager and stuff but I can now run Tcl/Tk/Sqlite and do DB stuff.