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Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: w14 on July 04, 2004, 10:43:00 am
I am posting this from Firefox 0.9 on Cacko 1.21b with XQt.

Superb!!

Thanks to all concerned.

Firefox 0.9 was recently uploaded to the pdaXrom unstable feed by CoreyC.

Mike.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: Zuber on July 04, 2004, 11:16:31 am
Interesting.

Spotted anything else that works on Qt that is supposed to be for the X rom ?
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: w14 on July 04, 2004, 11:32:31 am
I installed X/Qt about an hour ago. I'd noticed CoreyC mentioning that he had built FF0.9 with gtk, as opposed to gtk2, for speed.

Thought it was worth a try.

Haven't had a chance to look at anything else yet ...

Mike.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: wmadan on July 04, 2004, 12:07:22 pm
GIMP works on X/Qt-no modifications necessary.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: spaul on July 04, 2004, 12:10:59 pm
How fast does CNN load.  Someone posted that they got 7-10sec on PDX Rom with firefox.
OT, firefox and slackware revitalize older computers like this dell latitude I'm using
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: w14 on July 04, 2004, 12:33:28 pm
Takes me about 10 seconds to get CNN.

Mike.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: roderickv on July 04, 2004, 04:21:59 pm
I can't get it to install. I tried using the installer and the command line. Did you have to do anything special to install it?

-Rod-
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: w14 on July 04, 2004, 04:47:21 pm
Nothing special at all.

Installed X/Qt as per instructions in several threads here, e.g. first post on this page:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...=60&#entry33965 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3559&st=60&#entry33965)

and then just downloaded Firefox from the unstable feed on pdaxrom.org.

The ipk installed no probs, and it ran with no additional messing about.

Mike.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: roderickv on July 04, 2004, 06:01:48 pm
OK, thanks much...
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: padishah_emperor on July 05, 2004, 07:52:24 am
I'd be interested to know if the developer(s) of X/Qt frequented ZUG, if there was a SDK for it, we could start a porting project to port all pdaXrom apps to X/Qt, I've been running GIMP for a while now, but I'd like to be able to run some GTK2 stuff.  I'd love to have Abiword and Gnumeric on X/Qt.

I'd like XFCE on X/Qt, it was really good on pdaX but won't run on X/Qt
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: omega on July 05, 2004, 08:09:54 am
I find that X/QT doesn't get a lot of attention... perhaps because the focus now seems to be to move away from Qtopia and to pdaxrom. I going to try and get a lot of applications running under x/qt because at the moment i really do adore Cacko. It runs so well, but to be able to add a few x applications under x/qt would fully complete it!
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: datajerk on July 05, 2004, 09:39:02 am
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if there was a SDK for it, we could start a porting project to port all pdaXrom apps to X/Qt
There is:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.jp/xqt/8087....0.1_arm.tar.gz (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.jp/xqt/8087/x-devel_4.3.0.1_arm.tar.gz)
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.jp/xqt/8087....0.1_arm.tar.gz (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.jp/xqt/8087/glib-gtk-zlib-devel_0.0.1_arm.tar.gz)

Just install the standard Zaurus cross-compile environment in /opt/Embedix and /opt/Qtopia, then extract both tar balls in / (they will extract in opt/Embedix and I have confirmed that they do not replace any critical files).

I built the following with the above environment for X/Qt:

http://www.sense.net/zc/gnuplot/ (http://www.sense.net/zc/gnuplot/)
http://www.sense.net/zc/go/ (http://www.sense.net/zc/go/)
http://www.sense.net/zc/bochs/ (http://www.sense.net/zc/bochs/)
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: omega on July 05, 2004, 09:47:39 am
Woah woah woah... datajerk.  can i use these to compile stuff on my Z natively or is this just for compiling on a desktop linux for the Z?  I have zgcc installed, and i would like to know what kinda stuff do i need to get to be able to compile some applications, such as X ones...
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: datajerk on July 06, 2004, 11:08:04 am
Probably, the headers and libs are all there and native to strongarm.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: jerrybme on July 09, 2004, 01:54:03 pm
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Nothing special at all.

Installed X/Qt as per instructions in several threads here, e.g. first post on this page:

https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...=60&#entry33965 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3559&st=60&#entry33965)

and then just downloaded Firefox from the unstable feed on pdaxrom.org.

The ipk installed no probs, and it ran with no additional messing about.

Mike.
Anybody else been able to get Firefox working with X-Qt? If so, please provide a little more detail  

I've tried several variations. I've got X-Qt working fine, but can't get Firefox to run in X-Qt. I've tried to install firefox  under Cacko to an ext2 SD and then fire up under X-Qt, no go. Then tried dual booting to pdaXrom installed firefox 0.9, then rebooted back to Cacko, ran X-Qt and tried to fire up, no luck  

Cheers,

Jerry
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: w14 on July 09, 2004, 02:08:28 pm
Jerry,

Sorry, my original post wasn't quite accurate, in the sense that the post I quoted didn't list all the necessary packages. I installed the following:

X/QT server
X/QT startup scripts
X/QT fonts misc
xlibs
xbase-etc
xbase-clients
gtk
gdk-pixbuf
glibc-locale-eucjp
glib-additional
blackbox

All these packages came from the X/QT download site - no additional libraries from pdaXrom or anywhere else.

I also installed aterm from the pdaXrom feed as an alternative to rxvt and adjusted /home/zaurus/.xinitrc to suit.

Hope this helps,

Mike.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: datajerk on July 09, 2004, 02:09:03 pm
Any errors?

I installed to RAM, not SD.

I did have to exit the firefox and run-mozilla scripts in /usr/lib/firefox and change the shell to bash from sh to fix a few problems.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: w14 on July 09, 2004, 02:10:32 pm
I have as much as possible installed to SD. Firefox came back with the "must be installed in internal memory" message ...

Mike.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: jerrybme on July 09, 2004, 03:59:42 pm
w14- Thanks for the info, my system was so messy from all the installing and tweaking, I reflashed to a clean install and installed the ipks you listed to main memory. Of course I don't have much left in internal memory (cl-750) so I install firefox to SD. When I use the Package installer I too get the error message can't install. When I use the command line it installs without complaining. However, when I run it from xterm I get
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# firefox
[: Out of space
[: Out of space

Gdk-Warning **: locale not supported by C library
#

I have also install the libgc ipk from x-qt, but it doesn't help.

On the bonus side, I have found that enabling a swap file seems to speed up x-qt significantly

Cheers,
Jerry
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: datajerk on July 09, 2004, 04:30:00 pm
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# firefox
[: Out of space
[: Out of space
cd /usr/lib/firefox0.9gtk

change #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash in firefox and run-mozilla.sh
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: jerrybme on July 09, 2004, 05:43:14 pm
Quote
Quote
# firefox
[: Out of space
[: Out of space
cd /usr/lib/firefox0.9gtk

change #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash in firefox and run-mozilla.sh
datajerk, thanks for the tip. Hmm... not my day today I keep getting:
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#./run-mozilla.sh
run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute.
I also changed the /bin/sh to bin/bash in the run-mozilla script too.

However, firefox did run, it took a long time to load the first time. Faster on succeeding runs. I've got the funky font problem mentioned in the pdaxrom thread. But now it's working I'll try the additional font ipks to see if they help.

Cheers,
Jerry
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: datajerk on July 09, 2004, 05:49:29 pm
There are issues with Xqt .9 and fonts.  Try Xqt .8.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: jerrybme on July 09, 2004, 07:00:43 pm
datajerk: My bad, turns out I hadn't installed the fonts-misc_1.0. like I thought I had. Once that was in, looks good. Thanks for your help.

Anybody figured out a better way to map the mouse buttons? I'm missing the toggle feature of pdaXrom, being a leftie holding down the Fn key while tapping is awkward!  

Cheers,
Jerry
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: ShiroiKuma on October 28, 2004, 01:38:52 pm
Hello:

I see a number of users got it work, so it must work, but I can't get it to work. Can you help me figure out where the problem is? I want to run firefox on Cacko too...

I did a clean flash of Cacko 1.21, applied the service patch b.

Then installed the following apps in the following order:

xqt-fonts-misc_1.0.0_all.ipk
xqt-server_0.0.9_arm.ipk
glibc-locale-eucjp_2.2.5-2_arm.ipk
xbase-etc_4.3.0-2_arm.ipk
xlibs_4.3.0-2_arm.ipk
xqt-startup-scripts_0.0.2_arm.ipk
xbase-clients_4.3.0-2_arm.ipk
gtk_1.2.10.1_arm.ipk
gdk-pixbuf_0.22.0-2_arm.ipk
glib-additional_1.2.10-2_arm.ipk
blackbox_0.65.0.1_arm.ipk
aterm_0.4.2_armv5tel.ipk
firefox_0.9_armv5tel.ipk

Edited the .xinitrc to run aterm instead of rxvt.

Rebooted.

Then when I run XQt and try to run firefox, I get:
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/usr/lib/firefox/lib/firefox-0.9/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directoryWhich is strange because libstdc++.so.5 is from PdaXrom, yet you say you didn't have to install any additional libs.

Anyhow, I tried:
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cp libstdc++.so.5.0.5 /usr/lib/firefox/lib/firefox-0.9/
ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/lib/firefox-0.9/libstdc++.so.5.0.5 /usr/lib/firefox/lib/firefox-0.9/libstdc++.so.5
Then when I try to run firefox I get:
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/usr/lib/firefox/lib/firefox-0.9/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/firefox/lib/firefox-0.9/libxpcom.so: symbol __floatsisf, version GCC_3.0 not defined in fil libgcc_s.so.1 with link time reference
Can you help me?

Thank you.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: ShiroiKuma on October 28, 2004, 07:29:32 pm
OK, I found out that I had to install firefox_0.9gtk_armv5tel.ipk

This is the package that works, not firefox_0.9_armv5tel.ipk

However, no I still don't see firefox. What happens is when I try to start it, there's no errors, there a wait for a while as if the prog is getting ready to run, and then I return to the prompt in aterm, without any Firefox window appearing and so.

What is the problem?
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: ShiroiKuma on October 28, 2004, 09:17:54 pm
OK, solved the problem, if anyone needs this info.

Didn't know this, but Firefox most be started as root in XQt, thus you first have to su then firefox runs OK...
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: corecoder on November 27, 2004, 05:18:10 pm
OK.
Where is this "firefox_0.9gtk_armv5tel.ipk"? I can't find it in the feeds. Am I too late? Did I miss the boat?
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: lardman on November 28, 2004, 05:42:28 am
At a guess, one of the feeds on the pdaXrom web site:

http://www.pdaxrom.org (http://www.pdaxrom.org)


Si
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: corecoder on November 28, 2004, 09:49:12 am
Yep, Looked there.
Looking for the 'gtk' one to run on Xqt. Oh well. Maybe I'm wasting my time. Does firefox for the z even work with Gmail? Thats my goal,anyway.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: corecoder on November 28, 2004, 09:54:09 am
Nevermind. Found it.
Yesterday wasn't my day to find anything.
thanks
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: adf on December 05, 2004, 10:58:18 pm
I found some interesting stuff somewhere on here...

A 6000 usr was using xqt to talk to pocketworkstation on his sd card --and avoid the slight  vnc latency.
I tried it on my 5600, beautiful, icwm kept itself in the screen, etc. I am having path issues and other things that need working out, I just started trying it,
BUT this means a likely full debian arm via XQT. Pretty cool? huh?
 surely this should make qxt of more importance?
 Also, it would be another way to get firefox and thunderbird going-- on a detachable tarrable removeable replaceable sd card
btw, it can be run on openzaurus as well..
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: nexxusone on December 09, 2004, 03:48:13 pm
I too was unable to find firefox 0.9 in any feed, so for those who find this later, google found this for me:

http://www.pdaxrom.org/oldunstable/firefox...tk_armv5tel.ipk (http://www.pdaxrom.org/oldunstable/firefox_0.9gtk_armv5tel.ipk)
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: adf on January 12, 2005, 10:40:17 pm
I've been trying it. But I keep getting:
./firefox-bin:error loading shared libraries:libgcc_s.so.1: cannot loadshared object file: no such file or directory.

I haven't been able to figure out how to provide libgcc_s.
fixed that by copying from a cross compiler environment.  now I have a libc.so.6 problem
what's with the libs?   each time out of 4 tries it has gone like this...

any ides?.


adf
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: hatchetman on January 13, 2005, 11:48:19 am
Should be able to download it here:
http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstabl....4.2-r3_arm.ipk (http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.2/feed/devel/libgcc1_3.4.2-r3_arm.ipk)
http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstabl...726-r12_arm.ipk (http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.2/feed/libs/libc6_2.3.2+cvs20040726-r12_arm.ipk)

Looking over the Packages file it seems that libgcc is depended on by almost everything in the world. If you have internet access on your PDA an update might fix all your weird depency problems.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: adf on January 13, 2005, 05:17:43 pm
this is the funny thing...  i am on sharprom and this is happening (i plan to go back to opie whan i can compile flash and use my own image).   I was thinking of ripping the libraries out of pocketworkstation, but it seems like xqt is just not findiing librbaries, or at least libraries it likes.  The source of the problem seems to be in part caused by a libglib. I have no idea why.
thanks though.
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: hatchetman on January 14, 2005, 12:23:25 am
oh! I think I didn't even realize what forum I was in. Want me to send you them from my Sharp ROM?
Title: I'm flabbergasted!!
Post by: adf on January 14, 2005, 02:05:40 am
re doing sharprom /gulhelm's ffpe fast kernel and libsdl xqt1 (since it allegedly runs a firefox .09gtk from an old pdaxrom feed (I already have the ipk)  the lost library thing was just too weird..  I tried patching in stuff from pocket workstation, but  it didn't like one of my  bits o jury rigging... hung.

Honestly, Im more interested in oz. and prefer it in in most instances. but I have a lot of wiki to read....


Hopefully it will go ok this time   thanks though
adf

edit :xqt1 seems fine his time around. huh.  maybe Ill find out what caused the prob as I reinstall software....