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Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: suruaZ on July 08, 2004, 02:09:34 am
Could JustReader read MobiPocket's .prc files? I seen somewhere that yes but I was not managed to open mobi files.

Thanks in advance,
suruaZ
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: dh on July 08, 2004, 10:22:11 pm
I use JustReader to read my Mobipocket books with no problems. One thing to note is that you can only read unsecure Mobipocket books. If you bought your books in secure Mobipocket format I don't think they will work.

The workaround is to buy your books in Microsoft .lit format and use ConvertLit and Mobipocket Publisher (both free) to convert to open Mobipocket format. If you do this you should be fine.
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: suruaZ on July 11, 2004, 12:41:03 am
I use Mobipocket Web Companion v. 4.5 to create *.prc files. I able to preview it with Mobipocket Reader on Psion. The same *.prc files fail to open with JustReaded on Z  

suruaZ
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: TimW on July 12, 2004, 07:54:32 am
I've been working on mobipocket support in opie-reader and the next release should have much better mobipocket support.

If you would like to try a pre-release version let me know which ROM you are using, or if you would like me to try it out for you first, send me a copy of one of the documents you are having trouble with and I'll let you know if it works.

Send to:

timwentford AT hotmail DOT com
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: TimW on July 13, 2004, 06:40:07 am
I've put pre-release versions of opie-reader with the enhanced Mobipocket support at my web site. If you want to try them, remember that they are untested.

For ROMs based on Qtopia 1.5 (Sharp, tkcROM and any other ROMs based on the Sharp original):

http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/opie-reader_0.7f_arm.ipk (http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/opie-reader_0.7f_arm.ipk)

For OZ/Opie (will work on ipaqs running Opie, too):

http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/opie-re...ie_0.7f_arm.ipk (http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/opie-reader-opie_0.7f_arm.ipk)

And for OZ/Opie and ipaqs with Opie but based on GCC 3.x:

http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/opie-re...c3_0.7f_arm.ipk (http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/opie-reader-gcc3_0.7f_arm.ipk)
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: suruaZ on July 16, 2004, 01:43:09 am
Thanks TimW. It works now!
I have sent to you a small sample - seems the reader doesn't process internal links correctly.
All the rest looks fine. I was able to read mobi-news in English, Russian.

Keep clicking,
suruaZ
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: TimW on July 16, 2004, 02:15:53 pm
I didn't get it - maybe it got swallowed up with spam. If you include "reader" in the subject then it is guaranteed to bypass my spam filter.
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: dh on July 18, 2004, 12:00:33 pm
Tim, just to let you know, I downloaded your new version (using Cacko ROM on 860) and it works great.

I've been using JustReader for my Mobipocket format books and it is usually good but refuses to open some books. Also, I haven't been able to get it to display graphics.

One book I've not been able to open is Bill Clintons one. With the new version of Opie Reader the file opened perfectly and I was confronted by Bill's smug grin on my screen.

So thanks for the great work. While I could do without the smug grin, it's fantastic that I'm getting my Zaurus closer and closer to just how I want it.  

If you are going to add new features, an easy way to scale fonts would be nice as well as an auto scroll ability. (These might already be there and I haven't found them yet of course!)
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: Hrw on July 18, 2004, 04:08:19 pm
I installed opie-reader 0.7f on my SL-5500 running OpenZaurus 3.5.1-pre1 and found it working but worse then version from opie CVS.

I use opie-freetype to get TrueType fonts in system but opie-reader show only QPF ones (I only have "fixed" one for Konsole) so I cannot use it to read (lack of national chars).

Otherwise it looks nice - many changes. "grab buttons" option looks good.
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: suruaZ on July 19, 2004, 01:41:12 am
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seems the reader doesn't process internal links correctly.

It fixed in "g" version. Thanks Tim for your great work!

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auto scroll ability. (These might already be there and I haven't found them yet of course!)

Yes, it's already there. More over you could choose between a few scroll types. Just scroll speed seems missed  

suruaZ
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: tumnus on July 19, 2004, 05:33:39 am
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Just scroll speed seems missed
By default I think the up and down keys control scroll speed. This can be set in the Opie Reader configuration on the Buttons tab.

The 'In Place' scrolling is an excellent feature and very easy on the eyes.
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: TimW on July 19, 2004, 06:14:57 pm
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I use opie-freetype to get TrueType fonts in system but opie-reader show only QPF ones (I only have "fixed" one for Konsole) so I cannot use it to read (lack of national chars).
The method of getting the font list hasn't changed, well, ever, so it should provide the same font list in both versions unless someone has fixed something in the Opie CVS without telling me.

You did get one of the opie variants (opie-reader-opie, or opie-reader-gcc3) I hope. Getting a Sharp ROM version can produce odd font effects but AFAIK it only affects the size.

I'm going away for a couple of weeks but I'll try and take a look at this when I get back (and hopefully get 0_7g up before, too).
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: dh on July 19, 2004, 09:31:41 pm
Great, I found the scroll options - very nice!
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: TimW on July 20, 2004, 02:47:06 pm
I've put snapshots of the 0.7g release up at my website - same URLs as above but with a g instead of an f.

These are snapshots so there may be a subsequent release which will still be called 0.7g. I wouldn't normally do that but I wanted to make sure that the bugs found by suruaZ (thanks for finding them) which I have fixed so far would be available (the fixes, not the bugs) to people while I go away next week.

I'll announce the official 0.7g release here when it comes so if you track this topic you will get an announcement when it is time to replace the 0.7g snapshot with 0.7g official.

As they are snapshots, you may want to be prepared to go back to 0.7f if necessary - I've left the 0.7f ipks up at my site, too, just in case you need to revert.

If you do get 0.7g, you will need to readjust your margins because they are now done relative to the window size instead of in absolute pixels. A value of 1000 corresponds to the full window width.
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: Meyer on August 03, 2004, 08:14:47 pm
So 0.7g can read secure Mobipocket files directly without any offline conversions?
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: TimW on August 04, 2004, 06:01:41 am
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So 0.7g can read secure Mobipocket files directly without any offline conversions?
Absolutely *NOT*.

It can read "insecure" mobipocket files without conversion. This is sufficient for Baen, Memoware and Fictionwise multiformat books but not for any DRMed files.

BTW, the official 0.7g release is imminent - I'll announce it here when it goes up at my website.
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: Meyer on August 04, 2004, 07:15:15 pm
OK. I shouldn't have let the earlier discussion get my hopes up.

I take it the trick mentioned above about massaging MS .lit files won't work for Secure MS Reader format?

Is there a Zaurus Linux reader for any of the popular secure/encrypted ebook formats (Mobipocket, Adobe, MS Reader...)?

(I note Mobipocket has a Linux version of their reader available for download, but you have to choose from platform-specific package files with nothing explicitly for Zaurus or ARM ('it runs on any platform as long as it's PalmOS').)
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: Stubear on August 04, 2004, 08:05:04 pm
If you have a registered version of Microsoft Reader than you can use Convert Lit to remove security restrictions (unless you live in USA or UK where downloading or using the program is illegal due to your screwed up copyright laws - even knowing the program exists can get you sued).

You will need the to download the windows version to get the program that extracts the keys.txt file then you can copy that to any machine (including the Z) and convert lit to opbf (basically html, xml and jpegs) Opie-reader will happily read the html files.

I have posted the clit-1.8 version in another thread (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=5845&hl=convert+lit#)

Remember it's illegal to use in the USA and UK even for Lit books you own.
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Please do not use this program to distrbute illegal copies of ebooks.
    ... that would make Baby Jesus sad.

Stu
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: ZDevil on August 07, 2004, 11:08:22 pm
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For ROMs based on Qtopia 1.5 (Sharp, tkcROM and any other ROMs based on the Sharp original):

http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/opie-reader_0.7f_arm.ipk (http://www.timwentford.uklinux.net/opie-reader_0.7f_arm.ipk)
Thanks for your great effort.  Keep it up!

There's an issue with the 0.7f file for Sharp Rom.  I downloaded it from the link but it can't open after installation (either no response or a forever exploding icon).  0.7c works fine, though.
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: TimW on August 09, 2004, 04:36:19 am
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There's an issue with the 0.7f file for Sharp Rom

There are a few devices which have problems with having the codecs in separate files but it seems relatively rare and I haven't found any real pattern as to which devices will and won't work. When I do the final release I'll try and remember to do a "static" version as well which will include all the codecs compiled in. If you have any problems with the normal version then it is worth trying the static version.
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: Mobipocket on August 18, 2004, 05:01:58 am
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(I note Mobipocket has a Linux version of their reader available for download, but you have to choose from platform-specific package files with nothing explicitly for Zaurus or ARM ('it runs on any platform as long as it's PalmOS').)
In the Mobipocket Reader download page for Mac/Linux (http://www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/DownloadLinuxStep1.asp), you can download the Reader for PalmOS and Symbian devices.
For PocketPC, you can use the Mobipocket Mobile website (http://www.mobipocket.com/mobile).
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: Mobipocket on August 18, 2004, 05:02:42 am
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So 0.7g can read secure Mobipocket files directly without any offline conversions?
Absolutely *NOT*.

It can read "insecure" mobipocket files without conversion. This is sufficient for Baen, Memoware and Fictionwise multiformat books but not for any DRMed files.

BTW, the official 0.7g release is imminent - I'll announce it here when it goes up at my website.
Please note that you are not allowed to try to read encrypted eBooks in Mobipocket format.
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: TimW on August 18, 2004, 05:18:17 am
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In the Mobipocket Reader download page for Mac/Linux (http://www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/DownloadLinuxStep1.asp), you can download the Reader for PalmOS and Symbian devices.
For PocketPC, you can use the Mobipocket Mobile website (http://www.mobipocket.com/mobile).
Not very helpful - this is a ZAURUS forum, or hadn't you noticed.

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Please note that you are not allowed to try to read encrypted eBooks in Mobipocket format.

So that makes them completely pointless - unless you mean that you aren't allowed to try and read them without having the mobipocket reader application   . Even that isn't true for everywhere in the world.

If you are a representative of Mobipocket, how about doing something constructive like telling your bosses that there is a market on linux based PDAs for the reader - or even providing a closed source plug-in for opie-reader so that people can read the books they paid for on the devices they want to. I'll provide the hooks and you could even sell it as it wouldn't have to be compiled in.
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: pakman on August 18, 2004, 07:20:26 am
@TimW:
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If you are a representative of Mobipocket

Those posts seem a bit formulaic. As you pointed out, they don't seem to know what this forum is about. Is it possible that the new forum member "Mobipocket" is just a robot that trawls forums for posts about Mobipocket, registers itself, and posts these messages automatically?

@Mobipocket: If you are a real human, prove it  

Regards,
P.
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: Mobipocket on August 18, 2004, 11:56:53 am
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@TimW:
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If you are a representative of Mobipocket

Those posts seem a bit formulaic. As you pointed out, they don't seem to know what this forum is about. Is it possible that the new forum member "Mobipocket" is just a robot that trawls forums for posts about Mobipocket, registers itself, and posts these messages automatically?

@Mobipocket: If you are a real human, prove it  

Regards,
P.
 
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: TimW on August 18, 2004, 12:13:31 pm
That is constructive?
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: mugur on August 20, 2004, 04:24:51 am
Hi all,
Thanks for the opie-reader 0.7f and g, Tim. A lot of my mobipocket files and even some of .chm files are opened. It does a magnificent job. But there are problems in my ssytem. I have  SL-5600  PXA255 with Zynergy ROM. In 0.7f after I have closed uqtreader, the icons of programs opened resides on taskbar evenif they are closed. And usually does not give permission to reopen the programs so Zaurus needs a reset.
In 0.7g after I close the opiereader it does not reopen until  I reset the Zaurus.
I thought to try 0.7c but it does not open the mobipocket files which could be opened by 0.7f and 0.7g.
Meanwhile is it possible to provide a password protected version for our private documents.
Thanks for your work
 
Title: JustReader and MobiPocket files
Post by: TimW on August 20, 2004, 08:12:58 am
I've not tried the Zynergy ROM so I'm not sure what is happening. If you have fast load turned on then it may be worth turning it off but otherwise I can't think of anything specific causing this behaviour.

It may be worth trying the statically linked build when I do a proper release.

Also, with your current release try running it from the command line. If you have the version for the standard ROM type uqtreader and the prompt - if you have an opie version (unlikely) type reader at the prompt and then let me know if you get any error messages.

I'm not quite sure what you need for password protection but I don't really want to put DRM into opie-reader (impossible since it is open source) so you probably want something more like encryption. I did get your e-mail but it arrived when things were really hectic so I forgot to reply - I will reply, now and we can discuss what you need - sorry about the delay.