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Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: jerrybme on July 12, 2004, 10:46:38 pm
Check this out multiple cpus in a PDA. Too bad it's not using linux

http://www.jackito-pda.com/ (http://www.jackito-pda.com/)

Cheers,
Jerry
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: ganoe on July 12, 2004, 11:05:18 pm
$600 for the base model, $900+ with all the extras built-in.  Doesn't seem to support any kind of wireless connectivity.

On the plus side, I've been waiting for more devices with week to month long battery life.
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: dz on July 12, 2004, 11:11:13 pm
It's vaporware/scam.  Read the comments on /.
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: waalkman on July 12, 2004, 11:27:05 pm
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It's vaporware/scam.  Read the comments on /.
I didn't even get that far, I saw those three magic letters "DRM" on the website and I was outta there.


John
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: jerrybme on July 13, 2004, 12:34:13 am
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It's vaporware/scam.  Read the comments on /.
Yes, love the debate on the whether it's a hoax.  Some of the other comments are funny as hell, lol
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: bing on July 13, 2004, 07:28:14 pm
can anyone please paste the url to the comments page here? i can't find any comments on their site
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: Stubear on July 13, 2004, 09:02:51 pm
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can anyone please paste the url to the comments page here? i can't find any comments on their site
There were referring  to the comments on Slashdot.org

Warning there are a lot of them and Slashdot has been shown to be addictive - you have been warned

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/1...tid=100&tid=137 (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/12/2019203&mode=thread&tid=100&tid=137)

Stu
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: dz on July 15, 2004, 04:11:56 am
..very, addictive.
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: dhns on July 15, 2004, 05:22:09 am
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It's vaporware/scam.  Read the comments on /.
I wouldn't assume that it is scam - it is too professional in web site design and the marketing story is too much based on innovative technology. A real scam would not spend so much money on those aspects.

I rather suspect that a small group of enthusiasts somehow got venture capital (something like the IBM Fellows who got a budget and were allowed to e.g. develop an IBM PC) and was able to complete the project (5 years ago I had the opportunity to evaluate an investment/partnership into such a project). I can really imagine a great engineering team supported by a marketing consultant, now sitting there and waiting for orders - which won't come as (fast) expected.

There are a lot of interesting ideas in and I hope that they do not fall into the same trap as Apple did with the (first) Newton - having great technology but the market was not at all ripe for it. Market development for new technologies costs more money than developing a product.

I have sent them the question whether it runs Linux...

-- hns
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: tumnus on July 15, 2004, 06:40:38 am
I'm not too sure about it. On the Hardware Overview page, nearly every claim is untrue: http://www.jackito-pda.com/hardware/overview.php (http://www.jackito-pda.com/hardware/overview.php) .
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: omega on July 15, 2004, 07:47:10 am
It's a scam. weeks on a AA battery, YAWN....
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: omin0us on July 15, 2004, 07:56:37 am
hmm, well, everyone thought that the OQO was vaporware and a scam. but it turned out to be real.

for those who don't know what the OQO is: http://www.oqo.com (http://www.oqo.com)
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: dhns on July 15, 2004, 09:22:25 am
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It's a scam. weeks on a AA battery, YAWN....
Well, a single AA and a GByte Flash is not compatible at all...

But on weeks of Battery: My HP15C calculator is now 18 years old and I have replaced the batteries only once or twice (I don't even remember when).

The Newton did also have several weeks of standby - and approx. 24h of operation (was at least written in some FAQ I have googled: http://newted.dyndns.org/soupbox/batteryfa...x.html#Anchor-8 (http://newted.dyndns.org/soupbox/batteryfaq/index.html#Anchor-8) ).

It is all a matter of using CMOS and low clock frequency - and the single AA might be a LiION with 2.5Ah - but they don't tell.

-- hns
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: bluedevils on July 15, 2004, 10:02:47 am
I think out of two of them, I would take the oqo.  The jackito seems too propietary and less flexible.  The oqo claims 800x600 transflective!  They are all vapourware to me until regular shipments start.
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: ScottYelich on July 15, 2004, 10:15:58 am
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..very, addictive.

refresh..


I really [refresh] don't know [refresh] what [refresh] you're talking about.

refresh, refresh, refresh.

Scott
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: ScottYelich on July 15, 2004, 10:17:07 am
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hmm, well, everyone thought that the OQO was vaporware and a scam. but it turned out to be real.

for those who don't know what the OQO is: http://www.oqo.com (http://www.oqo.com)

uh... maybe not a scam -- but was vaporware.

look at the time period between when it was 
announced and when
it became available.

Scott
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: bing on July 15, 2004, 10:42:03 am
thanks stu for the pointer.  you'er the man!

i used to read slashdots on my dell axim with avantgo. haven't read it since i got this z...

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can anyone please paste the url to the comments page here? i can't find any comments on their site
There were referring  to the comments on Slashdot.org

Warning there are a lot of them and Slashdot has been shown to be addictive - you have been warned

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/1...tid=100&tid=137 (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/12/2019203&mode=thread&tid=100&tid=137)

Stu
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: _Psycho on July 15, 2004, 10:52:44 am
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I think out of two of them, I would take the oqo.  The jackito seems too propietary and less flexible.  The oqo claims 800x600 transflective!  They are all vapourware to me until regular shipments start.
800x480 actually on the OQO.

The web site say available in Fall 2004. I wonder if anyone actually got one. There is no price listed but it seem quite a device.

The other sure is a SCAM to me (after reading slashdot) even if the technologie impress and is very appeling when you order you can customize everytning
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: waalkman on July 17, 2004, 05:14:03 am
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It's a scam. weeks on a AA battery, YAWN....
Well, a single AA and a GByte Flash is not compatible at all...

Not without a DC to DC converter at least

What's the bare minimum these days? 2.3 volts?


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But on weeks of Battery: My HP15C calculator is now 18 years old and I have replaced the batteries only once or twice (I don't even remember when).

Love my 15C, and it stills works perfectly. I also have a 16C and a 22.


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The Newton did also have several weeks of standby - and approx. 24h of operation (was at least written in some FAQ I have googled: http://newted.dyndns.org/soupbox/batteryfa...x.html#Anchor-8 (http://newted.dyndns.org/soupbox/batteryfaq/index.html#Anchor-8) ).

Seems to me that my MP2K would last about two weeks whether I used it or not. My partner (finally) retired his old Palm which would get two weeks easy (he had a spreadsheet of which batteries lasted the longest).


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It is all a matter of using CMOS and low clock frequency - and the single AA might be a LiION with 2.5Ah - but they don't tell.

-- hns

The picture shows a duracell...


John
Title: New wrinkle in PDA
Post by: dhns on July 17, 2004, 07:30:08 am
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I have sent them the question whether it runs Linux...
No response so far. Starts to indicate that the theory that it is something honest and real might be wrong (scientists do experiments to falsify theories)...

-- hns