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Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: yesac on July 13, 2004, 01:20:56 pm
Thanks to Mickeyl for providing the link in this post,
https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...?showtopic=5497 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=5497)

Download these two files and rename them initrd.bin and zImage then flash.

zImage
http://handhelds.org/~pb/oe/collie-zImage_...pxa3-embedix-r0 (http://handhelds.org/~pb/oe/collie-zImage_2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix-r0)

initrd.bin
http://handhelds.org/~pb/oe/images/collie/...32.rootfs.jffs2 (http://handhelds.org/~pb/oe/images/collie/gpe-image-collie-20040706161632.rootfs.jffs2)

It seems to work well on my 5500 but don't blame me if it doesn't work. This is an unsupported and unofficial release so try it at your own risk.
casey
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: Teletubbie on July 13, 2004, 03:10:08 pm
It is GPE and I still have resume problems after suspend with GPE.
Cheers,
Sam
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: yesac on July 13, 2004, 03:28:59 pm
You're right on both counts, it's GPE not OZ and it does have issues when you suspend it. Most everything else seems to work. I have my Dlink dcf-660w working along with Minimo and some other apps so it's not useless. Just don't suspend it
Casey
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: lardman on July 19, 2004, 03:44:57 pm
I know I should be making my own, but I thought I'd give this image a quick try.

I couldn't find a way to suspend other than to issue 'apm --suspend' from the command line (which can only be recovered from with the hard reset button - though the battery charging light works while suspended so it's obviously not dead, just unwilling to turn back on.

The sleep config app refuses to run as ~/ipaqsleep.conf doesn't exist. Does anyone have one of these, would it work anyway?

Any other suggestions as to how to suspend (I might try the old snooze binary which mallum provided if I can find it somewhere). I note that there are no scripts/binaries with names like: ipaqsleep* or sleep*.

Any suggestions?

Cheers,


Si
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: lardman on July 19, 2004, 05:23:04 pm
Right mallum's file does work. Can I attach it somehow??

edit: I'll see whether it's still on the web somewhere, otherwise I'll stick it up myself tomorrow.

It does something to /proc/sys/pm/suspend (iirc), just make sure you don't try 'more /proc/sys/pm/suspend' otherwise you'll be able to switch on for about 0.5sec then it'll suspend again - not ideal. BTW you need to run snooze as root.


Si
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: macwiz on July 19, 2004, 08:18:14 pm
Yes, please do.
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: lardman on July 20, 2004, 06:40:11 am
http://handhelds.org/~mallum/snooze (http://handhelds.org/~mallum/snooze)


Si

P.S. I also note that if you login as root, more of the the programs will work - for example the PIM stuff. I'm sure it's easily explained and fixed for other users (wrong permissions on the directories, etc.), but thought you'd like to know.

P.P.S. Can someone remember how to add a custom icon to the toolbar/start menu, then I can add snooze rather than having to run a terminal (hmm, will need to install sudo to make this work for non-super users).

P.P.P.S. How do you lot do file transfer? It doesn't run an sftp server, I ended up having to boot into Linux and scp (sftp wouldn't work) from the Z to the desktop to get snooze across - bit of a pain, but all part of the fun ;-)
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: lardman on July 20, 2004, 07:12:47 pm
hmm, I note I only have 32MB of RAM. Strange, is there a RAM-disk taking up the other 32MB or is this kernel for the 5000D?

More digging to be done.... ;-)


Si
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: Mickeyl on July 21, 2004, 04:35:11 am
Minor nitpicking, please don't mix up software layers.

OZ is the base distribution.
Opie is a GUI environment,
GPE is a GUI environment.

The images on that site are OZ/GPE in the sense that it's an OpenZaurus base distribution with the GPE packages installed. (Note that it doesn't matter if it says OpenZaurus or familiar linux since these two are the same at the moment). You could remove all GPE packages and install Opie on it. You can even install Opie and GPE both and they may even run without stepping on each other's toes.

To my knowledge, no one ever tried that yet though

Oh, and it should also be possible to install and run pdaXrom applications on that ROM - untested either though.
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: robirrgang on August 03, 2004, 09:54:06 pm
Re: GPE vs Opie--

I think I'm in love. GPE feels disturbingly comfortable, and looks hottt. Extremely intuitive, and fast, effectively killing my X11 concerns on a 5500.

Where would one find a Minimo ipkg... and possibly, something GUI-like to sniff wifi?
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: lardman on August 04, 2004, 06:06:28 am
Assuming you don't develop with OE (otherwise I'd recommend you just oemake what you want), then you might be able to pick something out of the GPE feeds on handhelds.org: http://gpe.handhelds.org/download.phtml (http://gpe.handhelds.org/download.phtml)

YMMV as these files are for familiar and some of them weren't too happy when I last tried (a long time ago).

You may also be able to use stuff built for pdaXrom (assuming the apps in question don't use arm5 instructions - and most will I'd guess).

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GPE feels disturbingly comfortable, and looks hottt.

I've got to agree with you on that.

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and fast

Not so fast on a 750, the screen redrawing is rather slow actually (larger screen??), not as good as that on pdaXrom for example (which can feel a bit slow too). But this is a mute point as it's still being developed and I can't complain as I've not contributed.


Simon
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: Mickeyl on August 04, 2004, 08:56:47 am
FYI: This has just been posted onto the Opie and OpenZaurus lists.

Hi Opie-lovers,

There are three Opie/QtE related ShowStoppers
(http://openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/OzTODO3.5.1) holding back the
release of OpenZaurus 3.5.1 w/ Opie.

It would be nice if someone of you could spend some time looking into these.
Since the rest of the distribution is in pretty good shape and we
really need some public testing now, a release will otherwise only
include GPE.

If you want to adopt one of those task, please reply on either the
openzaurus-devel or opie list.

Don't reply via private mail - I'm not able to give you a step-by-step
receipe on how to fix the issues. If I knew one, I would've done it myself

Best regards,
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: coolass on August 04, 2004, 11:33:24 am
I'm still having the same problem I've had for a long time ,,,I can't flash oz 3.3.6-pre1. No matter what I do It won't flash. I wanted to try 3.5 but no-go. Any suggestions?
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: coolass on August 04, 2004, 11:55:43 am
It seems the card I was using wasn't really FAT16 although it read as if it was. All is well.
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: panyo on August 29, 2004, 09:55:00 pm
Flashed just fine and looks nice on my SL5500.
But where do I configure my keymap settings?
I spent a long time getting dvorak layout to work on my
built in keyboard with Opie. .Xmodmap does not work.
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: b2bpro on August 29, 2004, 10:42:46 pm
I don't suppose there is an build for the 860?  

Its actually pretty cool that pdaxrom and OZ are coming out with new versions at about the same time.  I've tried the latest pdaxrom and its looking good.   I'm interested in trying OZ 3.5 to see what I want to run on my 860 for the next while.
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: blakeyez on August 30, 2004, 05:18:08 pm
I've got a build for my 860 here... It's pretty solid, except the terminal is borked.  Am still playing to see why, and how to fix it.  I may post a copy this eventhing.

Dave
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: blakeyez on August 31, 2004, 10:02:00 am
Ok I got the terminal working (rebuilt it with updated configs from oe).  Check it out:

[img]http://pulsar.dagsolutions.ca/openzaurus-c860.png\" border=\"0\" class=\"linked-image\" /]

Anyway, if someone would like a copy of my build of openzaurus (totally unofficial and unsupported) for the Cx60 machines (tested ONLY on my 860), feel free to grab it here:

openzaurus-blakeyez-083004.tar.gz (http://pulsar.dagsolutions.ca/openzaurus-blakeyez-083004.tar.gz)

As written on the oz3.5.1todo page of the openembedded wiki, there are a few things that aren't working atm.  The major thing for me is that opie-mediaplayer2 is broken (builds fine, but segfaults when trying to play anything).  The other 'major' if you use ssh is that on initial boot, dropbear does NOT generate host keys, which prevents you from ssh'ing into your zaurus for easy maintenance.  Use the dropbearkey script to generate both keys like:

Code: [Select]
# dropbearkey -t rsa -f /etc/dropbear/dropbear_rsa_host_key
# dropbearkey -t dss -f /etc/dropbear/dropbear_dss_host_key

I have not looked into why this is not done yet, as it should be performed in the dropbear postinst script on first boot.  However, this should get you going if you use this image.

Dave
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: b2bpro on September 01, 2004, 06:51:54 am
blakeyez

I don't suppose there is anything special about installation for this rom.  I tried several times and it always hangs with a black screen with opie in the top corner.

I put all your files on my cf card.  Did the flash (boot - option 4, then reboot - option 3)

During the option 4 it did all the normal stuff.  ID'ed my Z as an 860, installed kernel, erased flash, and then installed with the 0 to 100 % display then cleared and the black screen with opie showes up and thats it.  I waited for 1 1/2 hour at this point once then re-booted and did the option 3 at which point I still get the black screen with opie.

I noticed in your tarball that the zimage didn't have a capital I so I renamed that.  I also tried it with zImage with and without the .bin extension.

any thoughts?  (of course I could always wait for the official release - but ... :-)
Title: Want to try OZ 3.5?
Post by: omro on September 06, 2004, 01:31:57 pm
Hmmm, I once flashed my Zaurus with the files from those links in the first post and they worked, but now flashing to those files leaves me with a login prompt. Weird.

Are there any newer image files yet? Pre-release play image files?