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Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Laze on August 18, 2004, 07:22:51 am
We are very proud to announce the first public release of pdaXrom 1.1.0 (Kathrin) - this is the second release candidate.
We hope that everybody will test it. Please note that we have not yet updated the documentation on the site but we will do shortly. We have set up 4 different file mirrors to handle the download (http://www.pdaxrom.org/index.php?showid=40&menuid=11) pressure (a big thanks to those who are donating bandwidth). For an almost complete list of bug fixes and updates see our progress report (http://www.pdaxrom.org/index.php?showid=38&menuid=7)

Please report any bugs using the bug report (http://www.pdaxrom.org/buglist.php) on the site. We have updated all bug reports that we have fixed in this RC2. Before reporting any bugs please see the “To be fixed before final release” section of the progress report (http://www.pdaxrom.org/index.php?showid=38&menuid=7) - these problems shouldn’t be reported.

Btw. While downloading its a good time to consider donating (http://www.pdaxrom.org/index.php?showid=39&menuid=4) or maybe visit some of our banner sponsors and take a look at what they have to offer ;-)
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Foxdie on August 18, 2004, 07:29:52 am
As I said on IRC, Dayum get me a towel

Great work Laze, Sashz and the rest of the Cacko / pdaXrom team!
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: ScottYelich on August 18, 2004, 08:51:35 am
yes... as was said on IRC -- thank you both.

Scott
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Reaper on August 18, 2004, 09:44:50 am
Instructions for installation would be very nice to have (the size of root partition, the order of steps and so on). Can we use the instructions for RC1?
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: dillera on August 18, 2004, 12:33:21 pm
Yes- can someone pop up what the root size for a 750 should be? This is my first flash, and while I've done ipaqs before, this is the first for the Z.

I choose 57 megs and it seems to have stopped... I'm at the Please wait screen, but the cursor has stopped flashing, I'll re-do it with 50 megs just get something on there.

I read a large thread from Ashley about using his installation to get one whole root- no home-- does this RC1 use that installer?
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: ScottYelich on August 18, 2004, 12:37:58 pm
I did 50 with rc1 and it worked...  the install went to 37mb
I think someone tried 40 and it worked.

the install is still not the final product... but you can use 1.0.5 to get the menu to
repartition, etc.

I hear people saying "120" (121?) is good for 750.

I'm not sure, I may do 64 or 96 or 120 on my 760.

Scott
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: jchung on August 18, 2004, 12:40:01 pm
I tried to flash this ROM on a C700 and it wouldnt go.

I repartitioned the flash to 30MB and it gave me an error.(following old instructions) I've flashed other versions before and had no problems.

Please help  

EDIT: I'm gonna try with 50MB partition


EDIT(2): OK.. I tried with the 50MB partition and it worked but now all I get is a flashing cursor and Tux.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: jchung on August 18, 2004, 12:41:04 pm
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I did 50 with rc1 and it worked...  the install went to 37mb
I think someone tried 40 and it worked.

the install is still not the final product... but you can use 1.0.5 to get the menu to
repartition, etc.

I hear people saying "120" (121?) is good for 750.

I'm not sure, I may do 64 or 96 or 120 on my 760.

Scott
120? on c750?  I dont think that's possible.. seeing how the c700/c750 has only 64MB of space..
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: dillera on August 18, 2004, 12:47:19 pm
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Quote
I did 50 with rc1 and it worked...  the install went to 37mb
I think someone tried 40 and it worked.

the install is still not the final product... but you can use 1.0.5 to get the menu to
repartition, etc.

I hear people saying "120" (121?) is good for 750.

I'm not sure, I may do 64 or 96 or 120 on my 760.

Scott
120? on c750?  I dont think that's possible.. seeing how the c700/c750 has only 64MB of space..
I thought it really has 128, and that the original sharp roms just blocked 64megs for themselves. And  Xpda dosen't do that-- so you should be able to get one giant root partition for the whole ~128 megs. At least, that's how I've read things.

I could be wrong though.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: dillera on August 18, 2004, 01:21:02 pm
My update on this for the 750:

I tried flashing 50 and 57 megs for root partition and the installer didn't re-partiton.. it seem to just hang at the Please Wait screen.

However, after talking to some people on the Cacko channel, they suggested I try using 121 (megs) to force the installer to create one whole root partition.

This worked for me, and was what I wanted anyways, so now I'm flashing in the new rom image.

Update: Ignore what I wrote up there. Don't use 121 for a 750. I don't know what value to use, but 121 won't work. I've gone back to 50 and it works.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: jchung on August 18, 2004, 01:30:26 pm
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Quote
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I did 50 with rc1 and it worked...  the install went to 37mb
I think someone tried 40 and it worked.

the install is still not the final product... but you can use 1.0.5 to get the menu to
repartition, etc.

I hear people saying "120" (121?) is good for 750.

I'm not sure, I may do 64 or 96 or 120 on my 760.

Scott
120? on c750?  I dont think that's possible.. seeing how the c700/c750 has only 64MB of space..
I thought it really has 128, and that the original sharp roms just blocked 64megs for themselves. And  Xpda dosen't do that-- so you should be able to get one giant root partition for the whole ~128 megs. At least, that's how I've read things.

I could be wrong though.
you know what .. you're probably right

I know the C700 is only 64MB
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Zumi on August 18, 2004, 01:37:30 pm
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I tried to flash this ROM on a C700 and it wouldnt go.

I repartitioned the flash to 30MB and it gave me an error.(following old instructions) I've flashed other versions before and had no problems.

Please help 

EDIT: I'm gonna try with 50MB partition


EDIT(2): OK.. I tried with the 50MB partition and it worked but now all I get is a flashing cursor and Tux.
Correct. It doesn't work again with my C700! Please release a patch or an RC3. Owww...
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: jchung on August 18, 2004, 01:40:42 pm
Quote
Quote
I tried to flash this ROM on a C700 and it wouldnt go.

I repartitioned the flash to 30MB and it gave me an error.(following old instructions) I've flashed other versions before and had no problems.

Please help 

EDIT: I'm gonna try with 50MB partition


EDIT(2): OK.. I tried with the 50MB partition and it worked but now all I get is a flashing cursor and Tux.
Correct. It doesn't work again with my C700! Please release a patch or an RC3. Owww...  
very dissapointing..
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: dillera on August 18, 2004, 03:09:28 pm
So has anyone got RC2 working on a 750? I get all the way past flashing, it boots and I see Tux, but I just get a flashing cursor that eventaully goes away. No login.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Xumbi on August 18, 2004, 04:35:12 pm
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So has anyone got RC2 working on a 750? I get all the way past flashing, it boots and I see Tux, but I just get a flashing cursor that eventaully goes away. No login.
Yes, I got RC2 running on my C750 this morning.  

However, I did have to resize my root partition, since for 1.0.5 I had my partition set at 35MB, and this new image needs at least 37MB.  Now, the RC2 setup menu doesn't give you the option to repartition the flash, so I had to download the 1.0.5 files, change the partition to 40MB, then flash with RC2.

Once I had it installed I removed a bunch of packages and brought it down to only 27MB used on my root partition (now that everything is an ipk that can be removed if needed).
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: deniscallies on August 18, 2004, 04:47:42 pm
Got Kathrin-RC2 running on my c 700  
reflashed root partition to 40 MB - works like a charm

great work!

Denis
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: j0m on August 18, 2004, 04:50:57 pm
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Now, the RC2 setup menu doesn't give you the option to repartition the flash
I went to the menu "nand flash tools" or whatever it was called and resized my 860 to 121Mb.

I've only been playing with rc2 for some minutes now but it's looking great, and I haven't found any bugs yet.

THANKS!
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: dillera on August 18, 2004, 05:06:32 pm
So I got this to work on my 750. I think what it took was to reboot twice. The first boot into Xpda just hangs-- no login. But rebooting it got me a login.


I'm going to reflash as one big root (no user) and see if it will work.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: ikm on August 18, 2004, 05:09:32 pm
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Quote

120? on c750?  I dont think that's possible.. seeing how the c700/c750 has only 64MB of space..
I thought it really has 128, and that the original sharp roms just blocked 64megs for themselves. And  Xpda dosen't do that-- so you should be able to get one giant root partition for the whole ~128 megs. At least, that's how I've read things.

I could be wrong though.
No, the specs for the devices are precisely correct. C750 has 64Mb of flash -- no more, no less. You can divide that space into two partitions (that's the default), or use Ashley's installer to create one big partition instead.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Laze on August 18, 2004, 05:21:35 pm
Sorry - but we haven't had time to post any install instructions - will do very soon..

There is a RC2 feed available at http://www.pdaxrom.org/feed2/ (http://www.pdaxrom.org/feed2/)
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: ViV on August 18, 2004, 05:56:02 pm
I've noticed that Fn+<number> gives us a number character in 1.1.0rc2, not a special keycode as in 1.0.5. (I was using it for brightness control through xkeymouse) Is it a bug or a feature?
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: ScottYelich on August 18, 2004, 06:09:36 pm
I would hope that fn+1 would be F1 etc...
soon.

:-/

Scott
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: ScottYelich on August 18, 2004, 06:17:41 pm
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Sorry - but we haven't had time to post any install instructions - will do very soon..

There is a RC2 feed available at http://www.pdaxrom.org/feed2/ (http://www.pdaxrom.org/feed2/)

Also (static copy as of this date/time):

http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/feed2/ (http://zaurus.spy.org/feeds/cacko/pdaXrom/1.1.0/feed2/)

Scott
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: sigmaX on August 18, 2004, 07:22:47 pm
Thanks pdaXrom team for you work !! it worked like a charm !! I got it installed with no hiss

I got two rather lame questions and one possible bug:

1) When you reformat Flash ... I put 50 (megs I assume) ... but then others put 40 or even 120 ... What does THIS do ? I assumed that with this action you where creating two memory partitions: one of, say, 50 megs (if you placed a 50) for the pdaXrom itself and the REST for the /root or wherever Linux store the installed software. IS this correct ?

2) I was using pdaXrom 1.0.5 ... Now with Kathrin I "feel" like the whole thing is working at 50% speed: Windows move slower when dragged, I can see the different interface while it draws itself (I can see the interface drawing when I open any application), etc. Is it just me ? Right now I am taking away all backdrops and leaving single colors in all the "look and feel" config. I wonder: Is there any RAM or interface speed penalty by using backdrops in matchbox (I think there are) ?

3) I have a TRENDnet Compactflash Fast Ethernet Adapter TE-CF100 ... it works under sharp rom, under cacko rom, with my SL5500, with my C860... actually it worked in every rom I tested, right away. Under Kathrin it just says the same as pdaXrom 1.0.5: "Unsupported Card" ... that is it ?

If anyone can give some ideas / answers, please shoot

Enrique.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Xumbi on August 18, 2004, 07:47:11 pm
sigmaX: Check out this (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6280) thread, that's how I got my Hawking CF LAN card working in pdaXrom.

I am having another problem of my own though...

I set my power settings to 0.0 for "screen off after..." for battery and AC power.  I was listening to oggs with xmms in the car on the way home, and after about 10 minutes my Z suspended.  I hit the power button, it came back on, started playing for about a minute, then turned back off again.

I really want to make it so the Z never goes into suspend mode unless I manually press the power button.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: stbrock on August 18, 2004, 08:29:18 pm
The following two initial steps allowed me to install smoothly with one large partition on my C860 (presumably Ashley's work incorporated).  I went first to the NAND flash utilities and ran the options to:

     -   Fix the Sharp 64 MB limit

     -   Resize root partition to 121 MB

After that, you reboot and do the usual to flash the new ROM. BTW "reboot" in flashing instructions seems to always mean pulling the battery, etc, for steps before the new ROM is installed, not a warm boot using the menu reboot option as you might think.  

As for RC2 -- Excellent work! A few things (like the package manager) don't seem quite finished yet, but the features that are there are working and stable so far.  The one big thing I'm still hoping for in a future version is apt-get, so I can spend more time running apps and less tinkering with install and config glitches.

I'm off to PayPal to make a well-earned contribution.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: jerrybme on August 18, 2004, 09:05:39 pm
Looks like pdaXrom is almost ready for prime-time    Great default eye candy, look & feel much easier to modify.

Didn't see the following issues on the bug list, so not sure if they are only user-stupidity or true bugs:

In aterm and abiword, the right shift doesn't work (haven't tested it in any other apps)

In past versions I've been able to modify the ipkg.config to point to a feed on my CF. I tried both manually and using the Pakage Meneger to configure a new feed, I get this error
Code: [Select]
/mnt/cf/feed/Packages: Unsupported scheme.ipgk_download: ERROR: Failed to retrieve /mnt/cf/feed/Packages, returning to ipkg_update: ERROR downloading /mnt/cf/feed/Packages to /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/feed1
I know the Packages file and ipks are the right scheme as I used wget to get them from the feed2 directory on pdaXrom.org.

In the previous versions I had similar problems which were solved by creating the /usr/lib/ipkg/list directory. This time it was already there. Anybody able to get a local feed working?

Again, great work Sash and team. THANKS!
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: sigmaX on August 18, 2004, 09:07:38 pm
GAIM:

Gaim 0.8  didnt work for me with MSN ... whenever I tried to send a message it just dissapeared .... anyway ICQ worked flawlessly. Uninstalled it and installed 0.77 and it worked like a charm.

interesting....
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Laze on August 19, 2004, 01:27:31 am
I have noted down all the "ideas"  and bugfixes :-)

And now a IMPORTANT message - if you need to add something to somewhere in order to get your BLAH-BLAH card working - please post what you added and where you added it. That way we can included it in the next release and make the pdaXrom more userfriendly for those who don't know how to do it..
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: LadyBug on August 19, 2004, 02:19:50 am
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There is a RC2 feed available at http://www.pdaxrom.org/feed2/ (http://www.pdaxrom.org/feed2/)

Hmm, does this mean that the IPKs in the standard feed are not compatible with 1.1.0?
And what about the SDK? Can we compile stuff to 1.1.0 with the 1.0.5 SDK?

I know you're busy with just getting the 1.1.0 released properly, but I have a reason to ask.
My key application is KoPI. If there's no recent kopi ipk available, I'd need to roll my own.
And if that's not possible due to lack of SDK, no pdaxrom for me.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Zumi on August 19, 2004, 03:31:54 am
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Got Kathrin-RC2 running on my c 700   
reflashed root partition to 40 MB - works like a charm

great work!

Denis
I comfirm this. 40 MB root partition is the key! Woohoo! It's working well!
Thanks!

Zumi
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: alan on August 19, 2004, 04:07:27 am
does this mean that ashley's one partition script doesn't work with this RC2 ?
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Reaper on August 19, 2004, 04:16:30 am
And some of us are in dire need of Cyrillic fonts for console & browser. Fonts from 1.0.5 don't work and make the screen garbled - had to reflash.

Three other errors:

1) I was unable to perform a cold start of my 760 with AC adapter plugged in - only from a battery. That's VERY strange error, but I'll check error reports on pdaXrom.org to see if others encountered it. And if I select suspend when on AC power it also freezes. The last power-related error is that my Z doesn't seem to charge when running X11. After reflashing it had approx. 70 % of battery. Then, after 3-hour working on AC, it has only 15%!   Check the matter of this.

2) Right Shift doesn't work.

3) My TE-CF100 card which worked perfectly with 1.0.5 always goes to suspend so it's impossible to use it. Even cardctl reset doesn't help.

Later Maslovsky solved the third error (with CF LAN card) by typing:

cardctl resume; cardctl scheme qpewlan0

See if it helps others who have similar problems
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: rgrep on August 19, 2004, 05:12:12 am
Firstly I like to say a big thanks to Sash, Laze and all the pdaXrom crew for this excellent new ROM.  I can't wait for the final release, I know it will kickass!

It's great to see that the ipkg script bug (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=5555&view=findpost&p=34902) has been fixed, but unfortunately the script still isn't quite right.  Please refer to the patch below.

The first two bugs are just missing the '\n' (which were stripped off when I posted my original bug report (http://www.pdaxrom.org/buglist.php?doaction=showbug&bugid=92)).  The last bug is my mistake so sorry about that, I obviously didn't test it as well as I claimed I had.

Code: [Select]
--- ipkg.kathrin        2004-08-19 20:44:22.000000000 +1200
+++ ipkg.kathrin.fixed  2004-08-19 20:51:39.000000000 +1200
@@ -546,14 +546,14 @@

                local maybe_new_pkgs=
                for pkg in $new_deps; do
-                       if ! echo $installed_pkgs | tr " " " " | grep -q "^$pkg$"; then
+                       if ! echo $installed_pkgs | tr " " "\n" | grep -q "^$pkg$"; then
                                maybe_new_pkgs="$maybe_new_pkgs $pkg"
                        fi
                done

                new_pkgs=
                for pkg in $maybe_new_pkgs; do
-                       if ! echo $all_deps | tr " " " " | grep -q "^$pkg$"; then
+                       if ! echo $all_deps | tr " " "\n" | grep -q "^$pkg$"; then
                                if [ -z "`ipkg_info $pkg`" ]; then
                                        echo "ipkg_depends: Warning: $pkg mentioned in dependency but no package found in $IPKG_LISTS_DIR" >&2
                                else
@@ -647,7 +647,7 @@
        local pkg=`ipkg_file_part $filename | sed 's/\([a-zA-Z0-9.+-]\+\)_.*/\1/'`

        # Check dependencies
-       local depends=`ipkg_depends $pkg | sed -e "s/^$pkg$//" -e "s/^$pkg //" -e "s/ $pkg$ / /" -e "s/ $pkg$//"`
+       local depends=`ipkg_depends $pkg | sed -e "s/^$pkg$//" -e "s/^$pkg //" -e "s/ $pkg / /" -e "s/ $pkg$//"`

        # Don't worry about deps that are scheduled for installation
        local missing_deps=

Thanks,

Matt

P.S. I've added this as a bug report (http://www.pdaxrom.org/buglist.php?doaction=showbug&bugid=105) on pdaXrom.org.  This forum does a much better job of rendering code than the bug system though.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: vogon1 on August 19, 2004, 10:24:07 am
Hi,

I installed Kathrin, and I like it!
I found 2 things so far:
1 - ppp dealer does not work for me, see bug 106 (http://http://www.pdaxrom.org/buglist.php?doaction=showbug&bugid=106)
2 - I installed Gnumeric on SD, together with lots of Gnome stuff. It didn't work because libraries were not found. I solved it by adding /mnt/card/usr/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf. I don't know if it is a bug, or whether I did something wrong.

Any ideas?

Oh, and the patch from the previous poster for ipkg is necessary to prevent all kinds of circular dependencies...

Sietse
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: jerrybme on August 19, 2004, 11:00:18 am
Quote
Didn't see the following issues on the bug list, so not sure if they are only user-stupidity or true bugs:

%< snip

In past versions I've been able to modify the ipkg.config to point to a feed on my CF. I tried both manually and using the Pakage Meneger to configure a new feed, I get this error
Code: [Select]
/mnt/cf/feed/Packages: Unsupported scheme.ipgk_download: ERROR: Failed to retrieve /mnt/cf/feed/Packages, returning to ipkg_update: ERROR downloading /mnt/cf/feed/Packages to /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/feed1
%< snip
Well, my ipkg problem was indeed user-stupidity   When setting up a local feed you to use the following syntax:
Code: [Select]
file:///mnt/cf/feedI was missing the 3rd slash after file  
I did find that there is precious little documentation on the ipkg.config file.

I'm beginning to see there may be no need to go back to Qtopia based ROMs for me.
@ ladybug if you compile KO/PI please post it because that's the one app I need to make this ROM complete!

Again, great work pdaXrom team!

Cheers,
Jerry
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Kaze on August 19, 2004, 02:37:48 pm
just dropped ashley patch in the RC2 package,
upgraded maintenance kernel, (used 1.0.5 for this)
resized /root to 57megs,
installed ROM.
Now rc2  works ok on my 750 with 57 megs /root partition
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: alan on August 19, 2004, 03:25:58 pm
dear pdaxrom team : how long have you planned to test this RC ?

I'm just a basic user (i.e. not a programmer) so i might be VERY slow to help the community, even though i would really like to help you.

So i hesitate between flashing this new version (= troubles for my newbie brain BUT involving in a project that is very important to me (I use abiword everyday at University so i owe you something but as a (quite poor) student i can't give money for now...  )) OR keep on playing with my 1.0.5 version (= being sure i won't help anyway)

If this rc is scheduled to stay as the only available version for quite a lot of time, maybe i could be usefull.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Xumbi on August 19, 2004, 03:35:38 pm
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just dropped ashley patch in the RC2 package,
upgraded maintenance kernel, (used 1.0.5 for this)
resized /root to 57megs,
installed ROM.
Now rc2  works ok on my 750 with 57 megs /root partition
Where is this "Ashley's script"?  I can't find it anywhere.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: jerrybme on August 19, 2004, 03:52:47 pm
Quote
just dropped ashley patch in the RC2 package,
What does this mean? Can you describe in a little more detail? I'd love to have more room in internal memory.
Cheers,
Jerry
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: bluedevils on August 19, 2004, 03:59:56 pm
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Quote
There is a RC2 feed available at http://www.pdaxrom.org/feed2/ (http://www.pdaxrom.org/feed2/)

Hmm, does this mean that the IPKs in the standard feed are not compatible with 1.1.0?
And what about the SDK? Can we compile stuff to 1.1.0 with the 1.0.5 SDK?

I know you're busy with just getting the 1.1.0 released properly, but I have a reason to ask.
My key application is KoPI. If there's no recent kopi ipk available, I'd need to roll my own.
And if that's not possible due to lack of SDK, no pdaxrom for me.
that pretty much summed up my main reason from flashing to this rom.  I rely on kdepim too much.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Kaze on August 19, 2004, 04:18:30 pm
Ok detailed "Flash your 750 to 57Megs root"

- Grab the wonderful Ashley patch:
here. (http://es.geocities.com/vrsgazquez/new-installer-fixed.tar.gz)

- untar it on a SD or CF with the pdaXrom 1.0.5 installer, make sure you overwrite updater.sh

- reboot, Maintenance menu,plug in AC, choose 4,choose SD or CF,  let it boot rom installer

- Choose 4 (update maintenance Kernel)

- then say yes when it ask for flash repartition as : only root

- reboot

- Put the pdaXrom RC2 installer files on your SD or CF root ( WITHOUT THE UPDATER.SH)

- Now reboot, Maintenance menu,plug in AC, choose 4,choose SD or CF,  let it boot rom installer

- Choose 1: "Install new Rom"

- Let it install & reboot

Your done, now enjoy full root on 750.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Xumbi on August 19, 2004, 05:26:20 pm
Quote
Ok detailed "Flash your 750 to 57Megs root"

- Grab the wonderful Ashley patch:
here. (http://es.geocities.com/vrsgazquez/new-installer-fixed.tar.gz)

- untar it on a SD or CF with the pdaXrom 1.0.5 installer, make sure you overwrite updater.sh

- reboot, Maintenance menu,plug in AC, choose 4,choose SD or CF,  let it boot rom installer

- Choose 4 (update maintenance Kernel)

- then say yes when it ask for flash repartition as : only root

- reboot

- Put the pdaXrom RC2 installer files on your SD or CF root ( WITHOUT THE UPDATER.SH)

- Now reboot, Maintenance menu,plug in AC, choose 4,choose SD or CF,  let it boot rom installer

- Choose 1: "Install new Rom"

- Let it install & reboot

Your done, now enjoy full root on 750.
These instructions look good, but when I'm trying to flash "only root" it says "Flash pattern NOT recognized".  This is on my C750.

I even tried flashing back to cacko 1.21 first, still no luck

UPDATE: I downloaded the latest ashley script, everything goes fine until I flash with RC2, it gets to 72%, then it kicks me back to the main menu.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Kaze on August 19, 2004, 06:40:32 pm
xumbi try resizing the root with the 1.1.0 files on the card. then install it.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: firepile on August 19, 2004, 07:44:56 pm
hello! thanks very much for the good work on pdaxrom! I was wondering if there was a kernel .config for the kernel distributed with rc2? Also, are there guides to compiling a Kathrin-compatible kernel? thanks again.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Laze on August 19, 2004, 08:29:28 pm
First of all - the installer is going to be reworked when finally released - so there should be no confusion.. Actually the latest ROM shouldn't have no need for the Ashley script - its all built in and smarter - you just need to know how to find it :-)

Anyway - im busy keeping up with all the bug reports..
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: alan on August 20, 2004, 03:47:25 am
same as xumi for me

Quote
I downloaded the latest ashley script, everything goes fine until I flash with RC2, it gets to 72%, then it kicks me back to the main menu.

I have a c750, used to run pdaxrom 1.0.5 with a single partition.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Sna on August 20, 2004, 04:49:52 am
hello
first of all, thanks to the pdaxrom team for his work

i've only one bug, i can't read my sd anymore
it's strange, when i read this card on my pc, i've all the files, but in the Z, with or without the SD card i can see in /mnt/card a directory called Documents

a cat /etc/fstab give me for the SD
/dev/mmcd/disc0/part1     /mnt/card     auto       noauto,owner    0 0

dmesg give me for SD
[SD]-clustsize = 4000

but when i try a fdisk /dev/mmcd/disk0
i receive unable to open /mmcd/disk0

and the more strange, with the card in the Z, an umount /mnt/card says that /mnt/card is not mounted (but accessible lol)

i also wanted to know why the panel don't show the running apps and why you didn't choose a more common desktop (with custom icons on a simple desktop)? in short, a more KDE or windows approach, I don't understaind this choice but there is maybe an excellent reason
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: alan on August 20, 2004, 04:54:06 am
ergh..... It's even worse than i thought...

* tried to install Katherin RC2, flashing stopped at 72% and i went back to menu. Rebooting only gives me the little tux and tha flashing square...

* used Ashley's script to revert to default kernel and partions to default. tried to flash cacko 1.21, by 75 i got

Quote
Serious problem!!!
RO file system: error while flashing.
Press thr [ENTER] key for reboot.

help !!!
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: omin0us on August 20, 2004, 05:06:52 am
I had previously used ashley's script with 1.0.5, and everything above 1.0.5 from our core team test roms, to RC1 developer rom, to RC2 public rom has worked fine flashing it normal, and it keeps the nice big root partition.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: fabianE on August 20, 2004, 05:07:33 am
Hello Sna,

I had a similar problem, flashing the sd-card with fat16 solved the problem for me (using a sdcard reader under winxp).

Regards,

Fabian
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: alan on August 20, 2004, 05:15:48 am
oki.

I re tried reverting to default and then reflashed RC2, and it worked
but not with a single partition  ... Never mind, i will wait for official release to correct this.

Pdaxrom team : wonderful job!!! I'll click yor sponsors all day long !!!
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Sna on August 20, 2004, 05:22:22 am
thanks for the tip
but mine is already in fat16
i've reflashed the rom to be sure, no change
i'll try to reflash the old one to see if there is any difference
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Sna on August 20, 2004, 05:24:58 am
arf
ok it work
i've simply reboot the Z with the SD card in and it works now
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: blakeyez on August 20, 2004, 09:23:21 am
Hi all

Thanks go out to sash and crew for a great release...

Couple of things:
Firstly, to all the people talking about how to use ashley's patch by using the 1.05 installer, or using that installer to repartition, *you do not need to*!!!  Just have a look in the appropriately named 'NAND Flash Utils' menu in the new 1.1.0 installer.

Secondly, I experienced the same thing as a previous poster with GAIM - upon sending a message, it crashes without any error; just disappears.  I will be checking this out, after I deal with the next issue.

When I suspend using the power button on the back of my C860, all seems to be well, but when I try to return from suspend, it brings up the screen again for about 1 second, then goes back to suspend!  After trying this a couple of times, I forced something to 'interrupt' the re-suspend process by inserting my cf wifi card as soon as I brought it back from suspend.  This worked, once.  However, now It's gone into suspend and will not come back no matter what I do.

I'll keep playing around, though, and see what I come up with.

Dave
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Xumbi on August 20, 2004, 10:54:36 am
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I have noted down all the "ideas"  and bugfixes :-)

And now a IMPORTANT message - if you need to add something to somewhere in order to get your BLAH-BLAH card working - please post what you added and where you added it. That way we can included it in the next release and make the pdaXrom more userfriendly for those who don't know how to do it..
This is what I did to get my Hawking CF LAN card (CF-686TX (http://www.hawkingtech.com/prodSpec.php?ProdID=111)) working in pdaXrom:

Added the following under ethernet adapter definitions in /etc/pcmcia/config:

Code: [Select]
card "Fast Ethernet"
  manfid 0x0149, 0xc1ab
  bind "pcnet_cs"
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: dillera on August 20, 2004, 04:18:23 pm
Quote
When I suspend using the power button on the back of my C860, all seems to be well, but when I try to return from suspend, it brings up the screen again for about 1 second, then goes back to suspend!  After trying this a couple of times, I forced something to 'interrupt' the re-suspend process by inserting my cf wifi card as soon as I brought it back from suspend.  This worked, once.  However, now It's gone into suspend and will not come back no matter what I do.
Don't do it that way. I have a 750 and the same thing happend to me.

Suspend with the Suspend command in the Start Menu in X.

Resume with the ADDRESS button.

Works fine that way.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: xiaman on August 20, 2004, 06:28:39 pm
has any one got  the web broswer to work behind a proxy server.
i can't get mine to work.
would like to know how you set yours up
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Laze on August 21, 2004, 03:07:49 am
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has any one got  the web broswer to work behind a proxy server.
i can't get mine to work.
would like to know how you set yours up
Dillo - set it up using the settings - and use the full adress like http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080 (http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080)
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: xiaman on August 21, 2004, 09:43:41 pm
thanks laze that worked.

next question about dillo broswer is there a java plug in so java web sites can be viewed such as hotmail.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Zumi on August 22, 2004, 04:08:53 am
Quote
Quote
When I suspend using the power button on the back of my C860, all seems to be well, but when I try to return from suspend, it brings up the screen again for about 1 second, then goes back to suspend!  After trying this a couple of times, I forced something to 'interrupt' the re-suspend process by inserting my cf wifi card as soon as I brought it back from suspend.  This worked, once.  However, now It's gone into suspend and will not come back no matter what I do.
Don't do it that way. I have a 750 and the same thing happend to me.

Suspend with the Suspend command in the Start Menu in X.

Resume with the ADDRESS button.

Works fine that way.
I have the same issue, but I haven't got a clue when does it occur exactly, so if you played with it a bit, post a bugreport please.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: mr596 on August 25, 2004, 03:47:16 am
I gave the pdaXrom 1.1.0 RC2 install a go but it didn't appear to work so I decided to go back to Cacko 1.2.1b.  However although Cacko installed OK it had ghosting that wasn't there before and most of the applications didn't start (hour glass then nothing).  

So I went back to my full NAND backup of the original Sharp ROM shirtpocket sent me.  This appeared to work fine so I followed up with another go at installing Cacko.  The same symptoms appeared following the install.  So I'm currently back with the NAND backup image which is working OK.

So does anyone know what permanent settings does the 1.1.0 installer change outside the 128Mb flash on my C860?
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: b2bpro on August 25, 2004, 10:11:37 am
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  ...  So I went back to my full NAND backup ... 

I also have an 860 and I've tried RC2 (which worked but I'm waiting for the final release) and then gone back to a NAND backup of tkc - everything worked fine after the nand restore.  

Did you change the root partition size when you went to RC2?  I am pretty sure that a nand restore will work even after a partition resize. So this probably doesn't matter.

I'd try the NAND restore again.  It should work.  If not, I don't know what else to do.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: mr596 on August 25, 2004, 11:19:47 am
The NAND restore appears to work OK, the problems come after installing Cacko onto the restored system.  This makes me think that something outside the flash store has been altered by the pdaXrom, anyone know what that could be?
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: amrein on August 26, 2004, 05:01:40 am
After NAND restore, you still need to repartition your flash to be able to install Calko.

btw, I don't understand all post about flash issue and 40Mo partition size. I used the pdaXrom tools and now use a 100Mo / partition.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: schrett on August 26, 2004, 03:37:14 pm
Has anyone else noticed any problems with a flickering screen.  I have a C700 that otherwise seems to work pretty good with 1.1.0RC2, but the flickering screen is driving me nuts.  Interestingly enough, in portrait mode everything is rock solid, but rotate back to landscape and just looks a bit jittery.

Anyone else seeing this?

Andrew
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: jerrybme on August 26, 2004, 04:39:07 pm
Quote
Has anyone else noticed any problems with a flickering screen.
Does it occur when returning from a suspend?

I get it sometimes when I return from a suspend using the on/off button on the back. I've gotten in the habit of turning it on after a suspend with the Home button. It doesn't flicker that way.

Cheers,
Jerry
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: lardman on August 27, 2004, 07:03:01 am
I got 4 or so flashes if I touched the screen to bring the backlight/entire screen back on (before the unit had suspended).


Si
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Jenn on August 27, 2004, 06:18:18 pm
a few newbie questions:

- Is the right Shift key disabled in this release? (it looses its function when I start X)
- How do I get "Caps. Lock" function? (Fn + Tab doesn't work)
- How do I get "Del" function? (Fn + Backspace doesn't work)

thanks!!!

--Jenn
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: gromituk on August 27, 2004, 06:53:03 pm
The right hand shift key not working is in the bug list for the new release, so, hopefully, will get fixed (as I expect it's trivial).  Delete and caps lock don't work on 1.0.5 either - seems a significant omission as they are both printed on the keyboard.  I've asked about keys here: https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...?showtopic=6525 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6525)
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: gene on August 27, 2004, 07:47:18 pm
I would just like to note that my screen flickers alot too and its hard to look at it, but when rotated it does not flicker. WHen it goes to sleep and i bring it back via home button it still flickers. If anyone has any idea on how to make the flickering stop please let me know. Thanks.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: mabrown on August 28, 2004, 11:53:44 am
Just Awesome!

Thanks to the pdaXrom team for the work they have done on this. I installed it on C860 without problem and so far it hasn't missed a beat. My Z now feels like a real palmtop computer. pdaXrom has come a long way since 1.0.5!

As soon as I can afford to, I will be making a PayPal donation

Mark
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: xiaman on August 28, 2004, 10:22:10 pm
i've seen a few posts about sd card , and not being able to see it . i've noticed this to.
but only after rom has been installed . i've found that if you switch off remove card and power on . then power off put in sd card ,power on the card is there.once i had to remove battery  and then it saw sd card.
i've also tryed the ashly fix for expanding the rom to one size .
this didn't work well for me i couldn't load any rom and it was a pain to to get it back .
the ashly fix may work for others. just want to worn any new zaurus users.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: jerrybme on August 29, 2004, 04:33:47 pm
Anyone know what Pointer_EnableKeys does in the corgi.xmodmap? I got tired not having the right shift key so I've commented out the key assignment for right-shift which was "Pointer_EnableKeys" I haven't noticed any problems and best of all my right shift works again.

Cheers,
Jerry
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: pgas on August 30, 2004, 02:40:46 am
Pointer_EnableKeys with xkb extension  allows to control the mouse pointer from the keyboard,
as it is not enable by default it does nothing.

It should be remove from xmodmap
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: schrett on August 31, 2004, 11:04:15 am
With regard to screen flickering that I mentioned earlier, this is separate from the flicker when it resumes or when it comes out of screenblank.  The flicker appears most noticably on grey colors, less so on reds, greens, and yellows.  I also noticed that it is really only
noticable at the 2 or 3 highest screen brightness settings (which means usually only when plugged in).  But it makes the title bar of the default Aterm shimmer really badly, hurts the eyes to look at.

Andrew
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Laze on August 31, 2004, 12:27:19 pm
Flickering and more is fixed in the RC3 we are testing right now - i will get back with more info soon...
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: tcoulon on August 31, 2004, 01:43:27 pm
 
Just found time to flash RC2 and it's pretty terrific.
I'm a little lost at what was included in the original flash and what I've installed later, but AbiWord works great (I'd say it was installed with the original flash) but Gnumeric does not, it crashes due to a segmentation fault. Don't know exactly what's the reason.

ALso I noticed that some apps open windows greater than the screen - easily fixed but it would be nice to have them right the first time.

Another problem is tcl/tk 8.4.6. ipkg seems to install tcl ok, but wants to install xfree430_430_armv5tel and fails (error unpacking data.tar.gz). I don't know why xfree430 should be installed, anyway after installing tk you get no wish - so you can't start graphical tcl/tk apps.....

The good news is that I carefully kept the ipks of tcl and tk 8.4.1 (previous ROM, not sure exactly wich) and installing them by hand cures the problem. Maybe the yctual tk build is only intended for Python users (?!?) but it would be nice to include wish...
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: fabianE on August 31, 2004, 03:50:33 pm
Yes, great rom and lot's of things to tweak (fvwm...)

I also have the xfree-install-problem, when it occures on the shell I just quit the ipkg-process and the software is installed.

Gnumeric works, but only if it is started from a console, not via the normal desktop link. I set my link in fvwm to first start the console and then gnumeric, that works.

Regards,

Fabian
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: jerrybme on September 01, 2004, 01:04:16 pm
Any know how to change the mb-applet-clock to display time in 12 hr format instead of 24? I couldn't find any configuration files for it.

TIA,
Jerry
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: ViV on September 03, 2004, 01:55:30 am
We also need:

1) an applet or (better) console tool putting Z in "player" mode - no auto suspend, screen turned off, no screenon on key presses
2) a console mixer (I haven't found a mixer working on Z after crosscompiling, all give something like "read: SOUND_MIXER_BLAHBLAH: invalid argument")
3) a fix for xmms equalizer or related stuff (xmms is exiting everytime I try to adjust something)

I'm asking for console tools, because I use xkeymouse to bind actions like brightness & player control to hotkeys.

 
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: ikm on September 03, 2004, 10:55:11 am
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We also need:

2) a console mixer (I haven't found a mixer working on Z after crosscompiling, all give something like "read: SOUND_MIXER_BLAHBLAH: invalid argument")
This is due to the incomplete OSS driver implementation. The following kernel patch would fix the issue (aumix would start working):

Code: [Select]
diff -r -c linux-original-slc750/drivers/sound/pxa-i2s_corgi.c linux-altered-slc750/drivers/sound/pxa-i2s_corgi.c
*** linux-original-slc750/drivers/sound/pxa-i2s_corgi.c    Wed Jun 18 12:20:59 2003
--- linux-altered-slc750/drivers/sound/pxa-i2s_corgi.c    Wed Dec  3 20:35:36 2003
***************
*** 22,29 ****
--- 22,31 ----
   * Change Log
   *    16-Jan-2003 SHARP sleep_on -> interruptible_sleep_on
   *    14-Apr-2003 SHARP modify resume process & buzzer device
+  *  25-Jul-2003 IKM add support for sound mixer source read/write
   *
   */
+  
  #include
  #include
  #include
***************
*** 2904,2909 ****
--- 2906,2916 ----
    case SOUND_MIXER_READ_MIC:
      return IOCTL_OUT(arg, CorgiGetGain());
  
+   case SOUND_MIXER_READ_RECSRC:
+     return IOCTL_OUT( arg, SOUND_MASK_MIC );
+  
+   case SOUND_MIXER_WRITE_RECSRC:
+     return IOCTL_OUT( arg, 0 );
    }
  
    return -EINVAL;
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: roter_planet on September 03, 2004, 04:42:57 pm
hallo,

i'm really impressed what's going on with the new release. well done!
i found out some things which don't work properly.

1. xcirp app doesn't receive/send data via cellphone or palm-pda. it only succeeded once out of
    7 or 8 times via nokia phone by receiving a vcard. if it hasn't worked the app hung up and only
    could killed.

2. the new lan/wifi config tool doesn't save/load several profile names, so i always have to type
    a new setting! with the old one it worked great!!!

3. the suspend crash with xmms got better, i had it only once until now.

4. i tried to install via network and manual (ipkg) some apps, which need the xfree430 ipk
    i don't know why the need it, but the do. this ipk makes the ERROR and couldn't get installed.
    but it was already mentioned some replies above.

5. an app  with reminder/alarm function ist still missing. i don't understand why the fltdj app is included
    in the main package as ORGANIZER instead of the kopi, which is much better. and the step to
    mount the alarm functiom in kopi shouldn't be so far away. i think it's already compiled by the kopi
    team for the desktop kopi.

one question: has anybody success in working with the ppp-dialer via irda to connect the internet
or a mail-server??

so far well done and good luck in getting the bugs fixed.
it makes really fun playing around with kathrin!!!
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Laze on September 03, 2004, 08:22:23 pm
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1. xcirp app doesn't receive/send data via cellphone or palm-pda. it only succeeded once out of
    7 or 8 times via nokia phone by receiving a vcard. if it hasn't worked the app hung up and only
    could killed.

- I sent this further down the line to investigate..

Quote
2. the new lan/wifi config tool doesn't save/load several profile names, so i always have to type
    a new setting! with the old one it worked great!!!

- Both the look & feel and network setting are "kinda" special (it will be fixed soon) - all have to do is to type in the new name in profile name and press enter - this will store the profile with name and the profile will be added to the drop-down list. The advantage is that you can also use these scheme names from terminal like "cardctl scheme profilename" - so basically you can change profile without lauching the setting program. Hopefully our new WiFi applet will also support changing these profiles.

Quote
3. the suspend crash with xmms got better, i had it only once until now.
Not much todo - its not top priority right now :-)
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: gromituk on September 04, 2004, 07:15:32 am
Talking of wireless, is the driver (I have a Linksys WCF12) in Kathrin the same as the one on 1.0.5?  Because the card gets very hot, so I am dubious that it is being put into standby, where I'm told it only consumes 20mA (70mW) or so.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: DaveAnderson on September 07, 2004, 02:08:13 pm
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Flickering and more is fixed in the RC3 we are testing right now - i will get back with more info soon...
What's the rough ETA for RC3?  I'm looking forward to getting rid of the flickering.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: Laze on September 07, 2004, 02:15:43 pm
The RC3 will probally be available tonight or tomorrow - depending on Sash and the situation in Russia...
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: DaveAnderson on September 07, 2004, 02:24:31 pm
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The RC3 will probally be available tonight or tomorrow - depending on Sash and the situation in Russia...
Sweeet!  I cannot wait.
Title: Kathrin RC2 available now
Post by: ViV on September 07, 2004, 02:33:00 pm
What about OSS patch posted by ikm? Will it be included in default kernel? Or should I condescend to posting in pdaxrom buglist?

P.S. Praise-to-Putin show in center of Moscow just ended. We-love-Big-Brother is near.