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Hello everyone,
I thought it's about time to work on the next version of the Cacko Qtopia ROM. The main reason is that I was planning to include most recent versions of bluez and wifi (orinoco/hostap) drivers, and than requries patching and building the kernel, so hotfixes won't do. Here is what I planned:
- all fixes from 1.21 A and B
- use new compressed file system (quashfs) to store /usr. My tests show that it provides 10% better compression than cramfs (this gives us about 2 Mb of additional ROM space) and has a very good performance.
- include latest bluez drivers (already have them runnig perfectly on my own Zaurus). This should add support for HIP profile (bluetooth keyboards and mice)
- include latest orinoco and hostap drivers. Orinoco drivers include updated firmware for socket/symbol cards, hostap drivers support WPA and other wifi features. This will requrie to upgrade Wireless Extentions in the kernel and remove support for wnan-ng drivers. This will also make wellenreiter work out of the box. I've been using such setup on my Zaurus for months now without any problems...
- support USB CF Host via linux hotplug instead of usbmgr. The main benifit is that hostplug is all written in scripts, so it's very easy to update and support.
Those are the main points of the upgrade, but any other ideas and suggestions are welcome!
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Any chance we could see a version of this ROM for the 5500? I've heard great things about it, but I don't have an 8x0 series device, and would really like to see something new (esp. if it is Qtopia 1.6-based)
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Hi..
i would like to see a modula structure.. for the programs. A rom with Sharp program (Calendar & Address) with Hancom suite, and a version without them to use Kdepimi & Hancom or textmaker as ipk.. same things for Video Player, Netfront or Mirror. I have a C750 with some beautiful programs, i never used .
more reflexion .. after.
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Hello everyone,
I thought it's about time to work on the next version of the Cacko Qtopia ROM. The main reason is that I was planning to include most recent versions of bluez and wifi (orinoco/hostap) drivers, and than requries patching and building the kernel, so hotfixes won't do. Here is what I planned:
- all fixes from 1.21 A and B
- use new compressed file system (quashfs) to store /usr. My tests show that it provides 10% better compression than cramfs (this gives us about 2 Mb of additional ROM space) and has a very good performance.
- include latest bluez drivers (already have them runnig perfectly on my own Zaurus). This should add support for HIP profile (bluetooth keyboards and mice)
- include latest orinoco and hostap drivers. Orinoco drivers include updated firmware for socket/symbol cards, hostap drivers support WPA and other wifi features. This will requrie to upgrade Wireless Extentions in the kernel and remove support for wnan-ng drivers. This will also make wellenreiter work out of the box. I've been using such setup on my Zaurus for months now without any problems...
- support USB CF Host via linux hotplug instead of usbmgr. The main benifit is that hostplug is all written in scripts, so it's very easy to update and support.
Those are the main points of the upgrade, but any other ideas and suggestions are welcome!
What would you like to see in Cacko 1.22 ROM?
ability to dual boot with pdaXrom, with one common kernel.
Is this something you can do, or something that needs to be fixed from the pdaXrom side? Or is it something that both the Cacko and pdaXrom people have to work together, to create?
I would really, really like to dual the two usefully. Cacko QT rom makes a *far* better pda, but pdaXrom makes a much more useable portable PC.
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I don't know if it's possible to get a default configuration of Keyhelper so that it knows when XQT is running and doesn't translate.
It's really nice to have / mapped on the 860 keyboard but it causes keylock issues with XQT - haven't been able to resolve this using the UseFilterApps function but only had my Z for about a couple of months so I'm still a bit new to this Qtopia stuff.
+ maybe defaults in sdcontrol for noatime on non fat formatted SD cards ?
+ have you tried XFS filesystem on SD Cards ? - don't know if this is viable, the journal may be too big. I hear that reiserfs is a min 32Mb but don't know about XFS.
Oh, and a home page for the ROM. The forum works quite well but with the home page gone I keep having to tell people that 'no I don't think Cacko Qtopia is dead even though the site bounces to pdaxrom.org
Regards,
Andy
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- use new compressed file system (quashfs) to store /usr. My tests show that it provides 10% better compression than cramfs (this gives us about 2 Mb of additional ROM space) and has a very good performance.
Hey Maslovsky,
Is this new fs quashfs or Squashfs ? if it's quashfs do you have a link to the project ? can only find a link to some .ru site which I can't read.
+ you say cramfs for the current /usr... I thought this was jffs2 and based on gzip...... gzip seems a reasonable compression for the fs. Does the compression on s/quashfs have any performance hit that you know of ????
Regards,
Andy
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Hi..
i would like to see a modula structure.. for the programs. A rom with Sharp program (Calendar & Address) with Hancom suite, and a version without them to use Kdepimi & Hancom or textmaker as ipk.. same things for Video Player, Netfront or Mirror. I have a C750 with some beautiful programs, i never used .
more reflexion .. after.
Second this. How about a base ROM with no apps and then a bunch of ipk's with the extra stuff? (cal/addr/hancom/video player/etc....)
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I found the sheet application very slow on this rom compared to on standard rom. Particularly at opening files.
Double and triple checked. Also confirmed by another user.
No idea why, so if you can figure out and fix...
Also, occasionally would unexpectedly go native Japanese on me which drove me nuts.
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I'd love to see a gui bluetooth connection manager for BlueZ. I'm learning to get things done text wise in the file system, but a gui would really help us noobs a lot.
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Anton, stay away from orinoco 0.15rc for symbol/spectrum cards. We have lots of problems which are not in 0.13e. I have reported that to the developers, but no response yet.
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Anton, stay away from orinoco 0.15rc for symbol/spectrum cards. We have lots of problems which are not in 0.13e. I have reported that to the developers, but no response yet.
Actualy, I've already run into them and even sent you an e-mail... I guess I'll have to get back to the proven 13e...
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Thanks, guys, for your feedback!
ability to dual boot with pdaXrom, with one common kernel.
Is this something you can do, or something that needs to be fixed from the pdaXrom side? Or is it something that both the Cacko and pdaXrom people have to work together, to create?
I would really, really like to dual the two usefully. Cacko QT rom makes a *far* better pda, but pdaXrom makes a much more useable portable PC.
I remember talking to sash some time ago about that, but we ended up with ssome technical problems (I don't remember exactly what). I'll try to bring this up again - I'd like to have such setup myself.
I don't know if it's possible to get a default configuration of Keyhelper so that it knows when XQT is running and doesn't translate.
I think I could take a look.
maybe defaults in sdcontrol for noatime on non fat formatted SD cards ?
I think it already does that...
have you tried XFS filesystem on SD Cards ? - don't know if this is viable, the journal may be too big. I hear that reiserfs is a min 32Mb but don't know about XFS.
Any particular reason for having on-typical filesystems on memory cards?
Oh, and a home page for the ROM. The forum works quite well but with the home page gone I keep having to tell people that 'no I don't think Cacko Qtopia is dead even though the site bounces to pdaxrom.org
Yes, I know I wish I could find a person willing to maintain the site at his/her spare time. I just can't cach up with yet another peice of work... Any valonteer?
Is this new fs quashfs or Squashfs ? if it's quashfs do you have a link to the project ? can only find a link to some .ru site which I can't read.
+ you say cramfs for the current /usr... I thought this was jffs2 and based on gzip...... gzip seems a reasonable compression for the fs. Does the compression on s/quashfs have any performance hit that you know of ????
It is squashfs (my typo). We've been using cramfs for /usr for quite a while. It's a read-only file system, providing much better compression that jffs2. squashfs is even better with no noticable performance drop.
I found the sheet application very slow on this rom compared to on standard rom. Particularly at opening files.
Double and triple checked. Also confirmed by another user.
No idea why, so if you can figure out and fix...
Interesting - never noticed that (probaby because never used the original ROM
Anyway, I'll see what I can do...
Hi..
i would like to see a modula structure.. for the programs. A rom with Sharp program (Calendar & Address) with Hancom suite, and a version without them to use Kdepimi & Hancom or textmaker as ipk.. same things for Video Player, Netfront or Mirror. I have a C750 with some beautiful programs, i never used .
more reflexion .. after.
Second this. How about a base ROM with no apps and then a bunch of ipk's with the extra stuff? (cal/addr/hancom/video player/etc....)
The main problem is that fewer programs will fit with such a setup. Basicaly because jffs2 used for /home has worse compression than cramfs or the new squashfs. Also, I'm not sure how many people would want to install a bunch of application packages right after flashing the ROM. Maybe I'll open a poll later to find out
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I'd love to see a gui bluetooth connection manager for BlueZ. I'm learning to get things done text wise in the file system, but a gui would really help us noobs a lot.
I suggest you keep pinging tumnus - he's been promising us a bluez gui for ages
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I would like to see you reduce Multimedia to one (1) full-featured player. I think that Kino2 will the appropriate codecs fills the bill. I don't see that the redundancy adds anything and the default configuration still doesn't deal with m3u or ogm at all.
I also would like to see the buttons along the right side of my screen ( on the 860) reactivated.
Most importantly, I would like to see email fixed so that when I try to select an address for an outgoing message, the addresses are in (English) alphabetical order.
Thanks for a great ROM.
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Hi..
i would like to see a modula structure.. for the programs. A rom with Sharp program (Calendar & Address) with Hancom suite, and a version without them to use Kdepimi & Hancom or textmaker as ipk.. same things for Video Player, Netfront or Mirror. I have a C750 with some beautiful programs, i never used .
more reflexion .. after.
Second this. How about a base ROM with no apps and then a bunch of ipk's with the extra stuff? (cal/addr/hancom/video player/etc....)
support, e.g. someone like NetFront and some like Opera.
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Thanks, guys, for your feedback!
Oh, and a home page for the ROM. The forum works quite well but with the home page gone I keep having to tell people that 'no I don't think Cacko Qtopia is dead even though the site bounces to pdaxrom.org
Yes, I know I wish I could find a person willing to maintain the site at his/her spare time. I just can't cach up with yet another peice of work... Any valonteer?
Why not set up Cacko as a sourceforge project? That way you will get volunteers for the home page and for development too.
FWIW, I also think a major feature of the next release would be CVS access to the development tree. This is another feature that SF offers.
There is a huge amount of experience out there with using SF (they are nearing a million registered users) so I would guess that quite a few on this forum could help out with getting the project set up.
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Zuber - i've only found japenese appearing when i have a crash of libsdl and the screen goes into portrait. Have you seen it any other time?
maslovsky> I thank you for your work. It has annoyed me in the past to see people being overtly critical (not constructively) of something that people have worked hard to provide for free!
I would like to see full file associations... so perhaps you could select from a list of applications (that are registered) to open a file with. Or have a shift-tap to select a new application manually that would be remembered.
How about a full system viewable file manager (without the symlink that causes things like opera to go in circles). Maybe have it as an option in the menu so that by default it doesn't affect newbies.
Bluetooth keyboards you say? ;-)
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I would like to see full file associations... so perhaps you could select from a list of applications (that are registered) to open a file with. Or have a shift-tap to select a new application manually that would be remembered.
How about a full system viewable file manager (without the symlink that causes things like opera to go in circles). Maybe have it as an option in the menu so that by default it doesn't affect newbies
This is very unfortunate that we don't have access to the sources of Qtopia version used in Sharp ROM. There is a lot that could be easily improved, but only having the source code.
Bluetooth keyboards you say? ;-)
This one is actualy easer - new bluez drivers already support HID profile. But I don't have one to try yet
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Why not set up Cacko as a sourceforge project? That way you will get volunteers for the home page and for development too.
FWIW, I also think a major feature of the next release would be CVS access to the development tree. This is another feature that SF offers.
There is a huge amount of experience out there with using SF (they are nearing a million registered users) so I would guess that quite a few on this forum could help out with getting the project set up
Hosting is not realy a big issue, but having time and resources to maintain the site itself is. Also I'm not sure this project may fill into any of the licenses used by sourceforge. Cacko ROM is not an open source project - there is a lot of propriatory code from the Sharp ROM. Sharp's Developers site could have been a good place for such a project but it lacks a lot, including a home page and CVS. Als also, who would dare to trust it these days?
Anyway that's a good idea to try the SF and see if it works for the project.
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My suggestions for next next version of Cacko would include.
Irda that works with irda mobile phones to surf & get e-mail, Sharp is poor, Cacko 2.21b worse, perhaps with a facility to import/export profiles so we can all share a range of profiles for mobile phones, BT & rLAN devices.
Irda printing now that some Zaurus applications are starting to appear with printing options (TextMaker & Kaddressbook).
More memory for running programs & fast load more applications.
Less fussy IPK install.
Copy & paste between Zaurus & desktop.
Mike
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I think this "wish" has already been partially answered, but I would love to see a version of the rom that didn't include the sharp pim programmes as the kde ones are so much better. At the moment I tend to use the sharp programmes simply because they are there and I can't get rid of them and don't like having duplicate software on my system.
Other than that, I think it's great, Maslovsky, and it's really good to see that you are continuing to develop it!
Jo
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maybe defaults in sdcontrol for noatime on non fat formatted SD cards ?
I think it already does that...
have you tried XFS filesystem on SD Cards ? - don't know if this is viable, the journal may be too big. I hear that reiserfs is a min 32Mb but don't know about XFS.
Any particular reason for having on-typical filesystems on memory cards?
To get my ext3 SD card to mount with noatime I had to add the option into sdcontrol on the mount line inside the if [ "$MOUNT_RES" == ]... block. There's probably a better way but the procedure on 1.21b seems to ignore options in the /etc/fstab.
The XFS query was based upon some observations (can't remember the artical) where XFS came out as the highest performance file system for IO, however, this may be down to a number of techniques aimed at reducing read latency based on rotational stuff for disks... not really sure if there's a compelling reason to do it for XFS.. I may try the SGI patches against the current Cacko Kernel to see if it works and if I get a boost.
Actually there is one more thing. That's a creaky old version of fdisk (2.11g) that's on the original ROM, check out my thread on the Linux Discussion regarding using 2.12a. I still need to nail down the compiler issue that's causing the code to display an extra partition but this version actually seems to get the geometry right for larger storage cards.
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I got another one for you. Resolve the instability in the usb tcp/ip. I have been using it on several computers for the last few days and it keeping collapsing. Especially if i am playing mp3s on the Z, or using VNC or esp VNC and copying files. The prcoessor is clocked at 400mhz during these problems. The Z apart from that is perfectly stable. A reboot also doesn't seem to help matters much.
When it happens i can't ping the Z, or PC and i need to plug in/out the cable to get it to work again. I feel that it works great in storage mode, but this often doesn't suit me.
This issue has been presented before, so if this could be made stable it would be my no.1 wish. Also, more speed across tcp/ip file transfers?
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I got another one for you. Resolve the instability in the usb tcp/ip. I have been using it on several computers for the last few days and it keeping collapsing. Especially if i am playing mp3s on the Z, or using VNC or esp VNC and copying files. The prcoessor is clocked at 400mhz during these problems. The Z apart from that is perfectly stable. A reboot also doesn't seem to help matters much.
When it happens i can't ping the Z, or PC and i need to plug in/out the cable to get it to work again. I feel that it works great in storage mode, but this often doesn't suit me.
This issue has been presented before, so if this could be made stable it would be my no.1 wish. Also, more speed across tcp/ip file transfers?
Are you talking about fixing Sharp's USB drivers for Windows without having the source code? I'm not THAT good
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To get my ext3 SD card to mount with noatime I had to add the option into sdcontrol on the mount line inside the if [ "$MOUNT_RES" == ]... block. There's probably a better way but the procedure on 1.21b seems to ignore options in the /etc/fstab
I can see now - the script sets the options in a variable, but does not actualy include it to the mound command. I'll fix that, thats' easy.
The XFS query was based upon some observations (can't remember the artical) where XFS came out as the highest performance file system for IO, however, this may be down to a number of techniques aimed at reducing read latency based on rotational stuff for disks... not really sure if there's a compelling reason to do it for XFS.. I may try the SGI patches against the current Cacko Kernel to see if it works and if I get a boost.
You can try, but I doubt you'll get any better performance...
Actually there is one more thing. That's a creaky old version of fdisk (2.11g) that's on the original ROM, check out my thread on the Linux Discussion regarding using 2.12a. I still need to nail down the compiler issue that's causing the code to display an extra partition but this version actually seems to get the geometry right for larger storage cards
Thanks, I'll take a look.
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Nailed the problem with fdisk 2.12a, still needs some testing but build instructions are now in the Linux Issues forum under the thread "Hmm, could this be the problem with SD cards".
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I believe in you maslovsky! Okay, fair enough - is there anything that can be changed on the Z side regarding options?
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I'd really like a login on boot, and maybe some sort of encryption for the filesystem on the SD card. Difficulty with that though is what happens if something goes wrong and the zaurus wont boot?
Harry
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I believe in you maslovsky! Okay, fair enough - is there anything that can be changed on the Z side regarding options?
Frankly speaking - I don't know. I'm not that good in linux kernel drivers either
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I got another one for you. Resolve the instability in the usb tcp/ip. I have been using it on several computers for the last few days and ....
....When it happens i can't ping the Z, or PC and i need to plug in/out the cable to get it to work again. I feel that it works great in storage mode, but this often doesn't suit me.
I get this if I use the USB port replicator that my case provides (essentially patches that take the USB to ports on the front of the unit).
I have similar problems with Firewire on that port replicator so I have given over using it.
When I plug straight into the USB ports that the MOBO provides then no problems.
Just checking that it's not the same thing....
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I am so close to a decision to buy an 860 and this thread is giving me all the encouragement I need.
[I would love to see a version of the rom that didn't include the sharp pim programmes as the kde ones are so much better. At the moment I tend to use the sharp programmes simply because they are there and I can't get rid of them and don't like having duplicate software on my system]
One reason I like the Proto/tkc rom on my 5500 so much as that contains only the operating system and a handful of utilities and system tools. All of the applications I need are available to be installed separately, thus avoiding duplication and clutter.
Is a similar facility envisaged here?
[Also, I'm not sure how many people would want to install a bunch of application packages right after flashing the ROM. Maybe I'll open a poll later to find out]
It looks like this is what I am asking for.
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Sorry for the quotes being in [..]
I shall use Guided Mode next time until I get used to this.
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I am one of what I think is a large number of Zaurus users who want both Qt PDA applications and X applications. People who want only standard idiot-proof PIM functions often won't have opted for Zaurus in the first place. Some sort of integration of Qt apps with pdaXrom is the high priority for me, like the earlier posters.
But if technical issues make this impractical for the near-term, what about a CACKO ROM version integrated with XQt or pocketworkstation? It took me a lot more time than I wanted to get them working from a lot of conflicting, mostly outdated, hard to find posts and web pages, and there are still keyboard and environment glitches I haven't been able to fix. XQt offers the immediate ability to run a reasonable number of X apps alongside QT apps. And pocketworkstation gives you apt-get as well for an enormous amount of software, much of which runs fairly adequately on the Zaurus.
I'm banking on pdaXrom to surpass these alternatives across the board soon. It already does in many ways. But if some kind of integration with CACKO or QT apps isn't in the cards for the next release, please make it easier to use XQt or pocketworkstation in the interim. This should help attract new users to CACKO, users likely to upgrade to pdaXrom as it continues to develop.
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Yay! You/Cacko isn't dead!!
I'm so excited to hear there's going to be a next version!
Anyway...
My wishlist as i can remember at the moment (some repeats from others):
-The KO/PI PIM applications that everyone is raving about. As someone above mentioned, i hate to have redundant programs installed, and the PIM stuff installed just doesn't do it for me
-Fix (if at all possible) the bug with the screen brightness/ musicplayer blank screen, so that other n00bies don't run into the same weird problems i had (the screen would blank for about 30 seconds at a time, and then come back on, only to go blank again as soon as a button or screen event occurred)
-Consolidate the media apps. I can't recall which does what, but i know that only one player 'sees' directories, while the other player can't play OGGs. The OGGless player is the one that my Zaurus Remote Control activates. Combining all the functionality into one would be really neat, if possible. I also like the suggestion that the buttons on the RC be remapped (stupid stop button!), but i think that's probably beyond the scope of this project.
-Does anyone use Netfront? I was trying to figure out why both Opera and Netfront are installed. Maybe we only need one browser (unless there's an orthogonal feature set, like with the media apps). Just a thought
-Finally, for some reason prboom doesn't seem to work right from the menu (but fine with some fudging from the shell). I read somewhere this is only a problem with Cacko. A rather minor thing, of course. 8)
Anyway, i'm really excited to hear you're working on a new release. Thank you!
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Thanks, guys, for your feedback!
Second this. How about a base ROM with no apps and then a bunch of ipk's with the extra stuff? (cal/addr/hancom/video player/etc....)
The main problem is that fewer programs will fit with such a setup. Basicaly because jffs2 used for /home has worse compression than cramfs or the new squashfs. Also, I'm not sure how many people would want to install a bunch of application packages right after flashing the ROM. Maybe I'll open a poll later to find out :)
Hmmm...perhaps two different ROM images, a "bare" and a "full" one. The "bare" one doesn't include (almost) anything and then you can install the .ipk's you want. Interesting point re: jffs2 vs. cramfs/squashfs, though.
Another thing: change the Security app so instead of asking for a PIM it asks you for a real, typed (via hard or soft keyboard) password. Would that be doable?
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-Does anyone use Netfront? I was trying to figure out why both Opera and Netfront are installed. Maybe we only need one browser (unless there's an orthogonal feature set, like with the media apps). Just a thought
I have deeply used both Netfront and Opera and I must say that Netfront is by far a better browser for my 760.
- I really like the way it renders web pages using wrap and big fonts, so you NEVER have the horizontal scrollbar.
- I like the fonts too
- and the way it manages bookmarks.
- The offline mode, where you select pages from your bookmarks and download them to view offline.
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But if technical issues make this impractical for the near-term, what about a CACKO ROM version integrated with XQt or pocketworkstation? It took me a lot more time than I wanted to get them working from a lot of conflicting, mostly outdated, hard to find posts and web pages, and there are still keyboard and environment glitches I haven't been able to fix. XQt offers the immediate ability to run a reasonable number of X apps alongside QT apps. And pocketworkstation gives you apt-get as well for an enormous amount of software, much of which runs fairly adequately on the Zaurus
Actualy I was thinking myself to lay with X/Qt and include it into the next ROM. That should ease other from daling ith installation and configuration hassle.
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My wishlist as i can remember at the moment (some repeats from others):
-The KO/PI PIM applications that everyone is raving about. As someone above mentioned, i hate to have redundant programs installed, and the PIM stuff installed just doesn't do it for me
Looks like a "Lite" version of the ROM is what people would like to have. I'll open a poll to see how many would want that. But they will have to sacrifice internal flash space because, like I said, jffs2 compression is worse than cramfs/squashfs.
-Fix (if at all possible) the bug with the screen brigh
tness/ musicplayer blank screen, so that other n00bies don't run into the same weird problems i had (the screen would blank for about 30 seconds at a time, and then come back on, only to go blank again as soon as a button or screen event occurred)
I forgot what was the solution to the problem. If I find it out, I'll try to include it into the ROM.
-Consolidate the media apps. I can't recall which does what, but i know that only one player 'sees' directories, while the other player can't play OGGs. The OGGless player is the one that my Zaurus Remote Control activates. Combining all the functionality into one would be really neat, if possible. I also like the suggestion that the buttons on the RC be remapped (stupid stop button!), but i think that's probably beyond the scope of this project.
I'm starting to like that idea too. All of the many existing players have issues. I think the best candidate for the onle one player is kino2. The main reason is that it uses mplayer, which supports virtualy everything. I have full access to kino2 source, so it's only a matter of updating it to be a good mplayer front end. And yes, I should be able to support remote control with user-configurable button mappings.
-Does anyone use Netfront? I was trying to figure out why both Opera and Netfront are installed. Maybe we only need one browser (unless there's an orthogonal feature set, like with the media apps). Just a thought
I think many people do. That's probably going to be another poll - what whould people like to see as the default preinstalled browse and what should be just repackaged.
-Finally, for some reason prboom doesn't seem to work right from the menu (but fine with some fudging from the shell). I read somewhere this is only a problem with Cacko. A rather minor thing, of course. 8)
Worked for me as far as I can remember. I donl't have it right now but it did work.
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Actualy I was thinking myself to lay with X/Qt and include it into the next ROM. That should ease other from dealing with installation and configuration hassle.
I was wondering if there's anything particularly build specific in the PDAXROM feed that would stop us from using all the XLibs against the XQT server. That is JUST the server and none of th XQT libs.... see where I'm going... one X package feed with no need to worry about library conflicts...
At the moment it's a bit of a black art... I did have a VERY brief go at splitting off the libraries from PDAXROM into a cramfs, adding them to ld.so.conf and running some PDAXROM apps (I was wanting to use Scite) but it didn't get very far in the limited time I had. This was an experiment towards producing an IPK that would install XQT and the PDAXROM base libs.
What are your thoughts ?, do you have any insider info on this ? - Are there any missing render extensions in XQT that PDAXROM libs need ?
Practically speaking I think this would be perfect for my purposes. I would actually prefer to use QT apps because they are optimised for the screen size but for quick ports it would be great to have all the base libs that PDAXROM gives. - I think this is most practical because when I started to play with XQT I had difficulty answering the question "What do I want to run from the X world that I can't do in Qtopia" - the answer was very little.
If this route was to open up then there would need to be some guidelines for people wanting to use libSDL packages, i.e. either get a Qtopia libSDL or get an X version - don't get both !.
...anyway just some thoughts.
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As far as a good music player goes, I'd like to see one which was optomised for use with the screen closed.
By this I mean with a better interface from the external controls or the remote control. It would be neat to be able to switch playlists without opening the Zaurus. The stop key could be used when the player was already stoped to change mode or something.
I used to have a panasonic walkman[sic] which could could be operated with just one button on its remote control. You had to either press and hold the button or double click it and it would make a corresponding beep to let you know what it was doing.
Since the Z is a bit smarter than my old personal stereo would it be possible to use a speach synth to tell me what playlist I was on, etc. I may be getting a bit carried away now.
Other ideas would be an option to switch processor speed to the powersaving option when playing and then back to what ever was set before when stopped. When I'm listening to music on my Z its usually in my pocket and not doing anything else anyway.
Also I'd like to see a player which could play two or tracks without a pause between them, maybe this could be done by using two copies of mplayer.
What ever happens its good to see that there's a future for a QT Rom.
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Will be great to port bemused (bluetooth remote music control) on Zaurus.
http://bemused.sourceforge.net/ (http://bemused.sourceforge.net/)
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I was wondering if there's anything particularly build specific in the PDAXROM feed that would stop us from using all the XLibs against the XQT server. That is JUST the server and none of th XQT libs.... see where I'm going... one X package feed with no need to worry about library conflicts...
At the moment it's a bit of a black art... I did have a VERY brief go at splitting off the libraries from PDAXROM into a cramfs, adding them to ld.so.conf and running some PDAXROM apps (I was wanting to use Scite) but it didn't get very far in the limited time I had. This was an experiment towards producing an IPK that would install XQT and the PDAXROM base libs.
What are your thoughts ?, do you have any insider info on this ? - Are there any missing render extensions in XQT that PDAXROM libs need ?
I have no idea yet. In fact I havn't even tried X/Qt yet, but was planning to.
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By this I mean with a better interface from the external controls or the remote control. It would be neat to be able to switch playlists without opening the Zaurus. The stop key could be used when the player was already stoped to change mode or something
I was also thinking that remote control keys and Zaurus buttons should have different (user configurable) functions assigned when playing and when stopped.
Other ideas would be an option to switch processor speed to the powersaving option when playing and then back to what ever was set before when stopped. When I'm listening to music on my Z its usually in my pocket and not doing anything else anyway.
I think this is a great idea. I always keep forgetting to downclock the processor when playing music, so this would be a great option.
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Just came across a small bug in Cacko 1.21B that you may want to fix in a future version.
The caps lock on the pop up keyboard behaves the same as shift lock, rather than just shifting A to Z keys.
Would also be nice if we could use all the Zaurus keys with Japanese characters on them, perhaps to switch backwards or forwards between running applications, rather like Alt-Tab & Alt-Shift-Tab in Windows.
Also Alt-6 to Alt-0 could perhaps be user mapped to specific applications, theirs just enough space above the keys to stick a bit of paper show the apps.
Mike
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Mike, re task switching... I suppose you know about Shift-Home and Shift-Menu ? (get a few tasks running first).
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If the idea of a lite version of the ROM did catch on, can I request that Opera is the browser included if any? Basically I only use my zaurus as a localhost web-server, not for browsing the world wide web, and when I try and use Netfront it insists on trying to dial out, and when it can't it refuses to display local pages. I'd love to hear if there's a solution to this, but if not can we please stick with Opera?
Jo
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What about an iptables package or iptables built into the ROM? There are many cool things that can be done with iptables.
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Yeah, IPTABLES, PLEASE, at least I won't have to worry when I GPRS with my Wiki running.
Even if you can't prettify it please just modules support.
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If the idea of a lite version of the ROM did catch on, can I request that Opera is the browser included if any? Basically I only use my zaurus as a localhost web-server, not for browsing the world wide web, and when I try and use Netfront it insists on trying to dial out, and when it can't it refuses to display local pages. I'd love to hear if there's a solution to this, but if not can we please stick with Opera?
Jo
This may help you:
http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1385 (http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1385)
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What about an iptables package or iptables built into the ROM? There are many cool things that can be done with iptables.
ok, if it's not too much work
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No I did not know about the task switching, thanks.
Must find a way of putting some small labels near some of the short cut keys, getting old, so it takes a while to sink in.
Prefere to use the keyboard when I can, shame you can't use the Menu key in KO/Pi & KA/Pi.
Mike
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Remember what I was saying about the version of fdisk being old ?
e2fsck is version 1.19 on Cacko 1.21b
Using version 1.35 corrects the issue with e2fsck trashing your ext3 journal (bad inode at block 8 ring a bell ?)
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My must-have(1) feature is a data migration capability. Since I've never managed to get my PIM apps to sync up with..er.. anything(2), I really need some way of importing that data back into the Z after flashing.
I'd vote for Opera as default browser with NetFront an option, but I can see this is a vi-vs-emacs Holy war in the making.
Speaking of which: if you could include VIM in the next rom, that'd be one less ipk to reinstall
Thanks for all the effort on Cacko, which is greatly appreciated!
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(1) - When I say "must have" I, like every other geek, really mean "I really, really want this but my curiosity will probably get me using 1.22 anyway...
(2) - I'm clearly a moron. I've tried both the "S" and "U" versions of the Sharp downloads, both come with Qtopia Desktop 1.5.5 which won't sync with the PIM apps on Cacko 1.21 (version incompatibilities apparently). And I don't have Outlook to sync against. I'd have tried syncing to Evolution on Linux, except the plugin only works with the earlier Sharp PIM suite. Am I alone in this?
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-Finally, for some reason prboom doesn't seem to work right from the menu (but fine with some fudging from the shell). I read somewhere this is only a problem with Cacko. A rather minor thing, of course. 8)
Worked for me as far as I can remember. I donl't have it right now but it did work.
I attempted to install recently, and it does not work per the instructions. I used the zports libs and app. Once I had run it from the command line, it ran from the GUI. However, I have never got it to run in landscape, full screen. I really gave up and was going to wait until a newer SDL was available. I did not think it was a Cacko problem, but maybe so.
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Remember what I was saying about the version of fdisk being old ?
e2fsck is version 1.19 on Cacko 1.21b
Using version 1.35 corrects the issue with e2fsck trashing your ext3 journal (bad inode at block 8 ring a bell ?)
Cool! Tripple check and feel free to send it to me (or attach here). I'll make sure it's included in the ROM.
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I attempted to install recently, and it does not work per the instructions. I used the zports libs and app. Once I had run it from the command line, it ran from the GUI. However, I have never got it to run in landscape, full screen. I really gave up and was going to wait until a newer SDL was available. I did not think it was a Cacko problem, but maybe so.
Here is what you can try - use prboom desktop icon to run it with madnified screen option.
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My must-have(1) feature is a data migration capability. Since I've never managed to get my PIM apps to sync up with..er.. anything(2), I really need some way of importing that data back into the Z after flashing
I don't think we'll get to help you with that. I use Outlook for that purpose.
I'd vote for Opera as default browser with NetFront an option, but I can see this is a vi-vs-emacs Holy war in the making
I realy think we should either include both or none, so that users can install what they want after flash. That's the only way of making a public ROM version, so that everyone is more or less happy.
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I don't think we'll get to help you with that. I use Outlook for that purpose.
So, have you ever gotten a sync to work with Qtopia Desktop? And if so, which version?
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One of the things I wonder about is the difference between having everything that one might need in the rom vs. the customization... the questions about NetFront vs Opera are sort of case in point here- some people like Opera, some like NetFront. So what to do.... I'm not sure that I have the answer to that, but to err on the side of including more rather than less, here are some things that I think would be neat to have in the rom (which might help some some folks with common installation issues).
1) kismet. boy it would be swell to have a functional version out of the box
2) kde apps. I like the kde pim stuff quite a bit and having the kde mail client would be nice (ssl!)
3) vnc. Maybe this is because i'm just a dork and can't get it running, but again, nice to have out of the box
4) various X apps like xmms and xchat.
5) more themes
of course, the argument can be made that people can take the time to install this stuff, but my point is more about getting more functionality out of the box. This (i think?) would be really helpful to new users. It's taken me months to settle on the cacko rom- there are things that i'd rather use other roms for, but for me cacko is the most useable, largely because i've had to do the least amount of customization.
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I attempted to install recently, and it does not work per the instructions. I used the zports libs and app. Once I had run it from the command line, it ran from the GUI. However, I have never got it to run in landscape, full screen. I really gave up and was going to wait until a newer SDL was available. I did not think it was a Cacko problem, but maybe so.
Here is what you can try - use prboom desktop icon to run it with madnified screen option.
I tried that. I have posted to a few threads and I am not sure there is anyone who is running prboom full screen in landscape mode. If there are, they are not sharing. Thanks anyway.
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Arthuregg,
Surely your desire to have more apps included out of the box highlights the general point that's been made about having a lite version with very few included apps for those people who like to choose exactly what they want to install, and a more fully-featured version that has lots built in?
Personally I would not get a lot of use out of many of the apps that you mentioned because they don't really fit with the way I use my zaurus (mainly as a mini web-server, and I don'd have anything wi-fi), so from my point of view they'd just be taking up memory and screen-space.
Horses for courses as they say (somewhere)
Jo
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Allow me to share that I have prboom running on my c860 using zports SDL in landscape mode. Here are the relevant packages that I have installed:
libSDL 1.2.6-zports-5
libSDL-mixer 1.2.6-zports-0
prboom 2.2.4-zports-0
doomdemo 1.8
When first installed I had to execute from the command line and then it started working from the icon. You may want to look at your ~/.prboom/prboom.cfg to make sure the paths and settings are correct.
This is definately not a Cacko issue. Let me know if you need more info.
Hope this helps!
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Compatability with the sl-6000 would be nice
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simple change,
do not map fn-5 to the euro sign.
qkonsole uses fn-5 to switch between fullscreen and window mode.
I don't use the euro sign, but I would like to use the fn-5 in qkonsole.
Peter.
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....qkonsole uses fn-5 to switch between fullscreen and window mode.
Peter.
Where did you see that ??
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Just notice sth... duno is it a bug or not
when there is only 1x% battery left,
the battery applet show there is 3.x V, where it should be 3.0x V
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I also have prboom working perfectly in landscape full screen. I also have VNC server + viewer working perfectly on cacko (just installed).
I don't think cacko should be filled with crap - by crap I mean non-baseline applications that some people won't use. I like the current default install of 1.21b. What i would really like to see is a proper compatible feed for cacko to cut down on searching + messing about. Also improved package manager.
Once there is a feed then people can easily install whatever they want. If you make a massive rom with uninstall options then it gets bigger and messier.
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What an excellent idea. I have a repository of packages on my desktop of MANY working packages for Cacko. There is approx. 1GB of web space on my site for such a feed.
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I've noticed a bug when using Opie-Reader. If the light is set to the lowest level by the little applet and I press space to start scrolling in Opie-Reader it turns the light off.
'Gave me quite a fright the first time it happened on a plane, I thought my new Z had died
I luckily noticed the picture when the screen caught the light and was able to use the short cut keys.
I'm not sure if this is a bug in Opie-Reader or in the light applet though...
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I didn't see this answered, so I'll ask again. What are the odds that us poor beknighted SL-5500 users will see this version?
It'd be nice to have some updated, working options for a change...
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I love the idea of a cacko feed. Thats one of the nicest things about OZ at least when they were working on oz as opposed to open embedded having feeds for different versions that are known to work would be a great help I might also be able to provide a feed mirror (when my server ever gets up)
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With all the talk of lite/full roms, it would be awesome to have a customizable rom. Back in the dark ages when I was using a T-mobile PocketPC phone (I know, I am ashamed ), I came across something called rom kitchen:
XDA-Developers ROM kitchen (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/ROMkitchen)
It basically allows you to click which programs you want included in the customized ROM. It has a bar on top that tells you how much ROM space you have, etc. The scripts for it are OSS and run on linux, so it might not be that hard to modify for Cacko. It would be so sweet if each person could choose exactly which packages to include in their rom and would be nice for Maslovsky to not have to listen to "Opera suxors, use netfront!" "No netfront is lamers, opera only!"
Also, it allows people to make sure the rom uses all available space by allowing you to roll ipks you know you will use and keep into the rom (of course, makes version upgrades a pain, but still).
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A "Lite" version with a package feed would be excellent.
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Hello,
Firstly , you make a great Work, Thank's a lot.
I just want to know if i'ts possible to use the Z like a phone With a CF GSM CARD.
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I didn't see this answered, so I'll ask again. What are the odds that us poor beknighted SL-5500 users will see this version?
It'd be nice to have some updated, working options for a change...
Sorry, but very little chances. We couldn't even find anyone willing to maintain a version for 5600 and I just physicaly cannot keep up with all Zaurus models...
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Thanks for your posts! After reading through the feedback I'm myself leaning towards a lite-only version of the ROM + package feed. Mainly because maintaining two separate versions (even pretty much the same) is a pain in the ass to me. We'll probably have to sacrifice some space in user flash partition (jffs2 has worse compression) in favour of flexibility...
But in any case this is not yet a final decision!
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Thanks for your posts! ....
We'll probably have to sacrifice some space in user flash partition (jffs2 has worse compression) in favour of flexibility...
But in any case this is not yet a final decision!
Hi, like me use UCLX Compressor (http://inter.zon.free.fr/zaurus_index.html)...
Example fron the site :
opera executable (the one in the sharp rom) orig.size --> 2.892.256 bytes
compressed with UCLX (level 10) --> 1.055.653 bytes (36.5 % of orig.size)
I use it for all my programs (Portabase, FreeNoteQT, etc.) even for "Fast load" programs
A "must have" in the new light ROM
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Could I suggest that if you do consider UCLX Compressor that you put the decompression area on a RAM partition... UCLX decompresses writing the object to the /tmp directory then discards it when you have finished executing it.
On a flash based /tmp directory you end up with a lot of unnecessary writes wearing out your flash.
Not looked at UCLX too deeply but the mechanism also seems to suggest a vulnerability where a process could place an executable in the /tmp path that UCLX would pick up - perhaps root executes a UCLX command - and execute in place of the original that it was trying to unpack. - Don't know if this is a realistic vulnerability but it sounds feasible.
Alternatively, is there any need if the file system compression gets rid of the dead space in the first place ?
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hi there,
I hope it will be a full support do cisco vpn concentrator, like cisco vpnclient for linux an sharp zaurus. I have tried to use vpnc but it seems to me that it will need a lot of works around. This could be useful also for enlarge the zaurus use.
Another think a support for leap (cisco EAP protocol implementation). Yes I know cisco cisco... bla bla, but it
has the 80% or more in the internetworking area!
This could be useful also in pdaxrom implementation...
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Hi, like me use UCLX Compressor...
Example fron the site :
opera executable (the one in the sharp rom) orig.size --> 2.892.256 bytes
compressed with UCLX (level 10) --> 1.055.653 bytes (36.5 % of orig.size)
I use it for all my programs (Portabase, FreeNoteQT, etc.) even for "Fast load" programs
A "must have" in the new light ROM
Rearding UCLX Compressor - if you guys have paid a bit more attention you'd notice that is has been already used in Cacko 1.2x ROMs Opera, Netfront, QtMail (just to name a few) - these apps are already compressed using UCLX.
There are a few side affects though:
- space in /tmp is used when UCLX compressed is launched, and /tmp is limited to 10 Mb in current Cacko ROM versions
- application launch time is significaly longer - about 2 times for Opera.
- all applicationes are running under strange process (named "3" or similar) instead of their executable names
- the current directory for the application is /tmp, which may have negative affects - for eample Opera is looking for its plugins in /tmp/Opera/plugins folder...
BTW, my tests show that sqashfs compression is almost as good as UCLX, while providing for much better performance. This means that having application pre-built in ROM is more efficient in terms of storage and performance than having them compressed using UCLX and then installed. But like I said before, there will have to be trade offs between efficiency and flexibility.
Could I suggest that if you do consider UCLX Compressor that you put the decompression area on a RAM partition... UCLX decompresses writing the object to the /tmp directory then discards it when you have finished executing it.
On a flash based /tmp directory you end up with a lot of unnecessary writes wearing out your flash.
In Cacko ROMs /tmp is not in flash. It's not RAM either. It uses a special tmpfs file system, which doesn't consume any space untill actual data is written to it.
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Back to check on the progress of this thread, and not sure i like the way things are going. I would rather have an elegant compressed 'complete' install than a barebones one. I'm certainly not going to run into space restrictions...
So you know my vote. 8)
A few more small wishes. When the headphones are plugged in, the Z doesn't immediately shift the output to them (i always assumed that was a hardware thing, but i guess not). The player programs have to be closed and reopened first.
Second (and this probably already exists) is an easy key combination for select all. Fn-A would be great.
Third is some kind of macro keystroke(s) Fn-n Fn-m? That could be assigned some string to output. With my Z, i suddenly find my 14char logins agonizingly long to type in.
And to repeat myself from the previous post, KoPi/a. After actually having a go at the in built PIM proggies, i'm almost missing my T3.
Thanks for your hard work.
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flandry i don't have any problems inserting headphones at any point. It is done in hardware, but having built the remote control I know that the socket is a four pole one and the two outer pins have to be joined together (by a standard headphone plug) for this to change to the headphones. If i'm using the remote i have to hit a button before the speaker switches off.
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Looks like a "Lite" version (which I second) of the ROM is what people would like to have. I'll open a poll to see how many would want that. But they will have to sacrifice internal flash space because, like I said, jffs2 compression is worse than cramfs/squashfs
I don't quite understand... a "lite"version would save space wouldn't it?
If Ko/Pi would be included in ROM, would it run faster? What if ther would be an update of Ko/Pi?
grtz
Rob Kuijer
C700
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tun/tab device would be nice.
Please!
more infos here :
-openvpn for zaurus-
http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1417 (http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1417)
-openvpn homepage-
http://openvpn.sourceforge.net/ (http://openvpn.sourceforge.net/)
-vtun homepage-
http://vtun.sourceforge.net/tun (http://vtun.sourceforge.net/tun)
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Update all applications from last Sharp Rom. There are 1.40 for SL-C860:
http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c860/update/...ate/kyodaku.asp (http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c860/update/c860update/kyodaku.asp)
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Resolve problem with displaying iso-8859-2 characters in NetFront and Opera. In Netfront I see some czech characters are other characters. (Maybe font without Latin2 support). In Opera I don't see pieces of text
with some Latin2 characters. These problems are in 1.21b Cacko Rom.
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tun/tab device would be nice.
Please!
more infos here :
-openvpn for zaurus-
http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1417 (http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1417)
-openvpn homepage-
http://openvpn.sourceforge.net/ (http://openvpn.sourceforge.net/)
-vtun homepage-
http://vtun.sourceforge.net/tun (http://vtun.sourceforge.net/tun)
Interesting! I think I can build and include at least the device driver module...
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Update all applications from last Sharp Rom. There are 1.40 for SL-C860:
http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c860/update/...ate/kyodaku.asp (http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c860/update/c860update/kyodaku.asp)
What's the difference?
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I don't quite understand... a "lite"version would save space wouldn't it?
It depends on how many apps you install on top of that Lite version. Ultimately a full set of aplicating matching the full version will use up more space than a version that already has all those apps included in ROM.
If Ko/Pi would be included in ROM, would it run faster? What if ther would be an update of Ko/Pi?
Why should it run faster?
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Resolve problem with displaying iso-8859-2 characters in NetFront and Opera. In Netfront I see some czech characters are other characters. (Maybe font without Latin2 support). In Opera I don't see pieces of text
with some Latin2 characters. These problems are in 1.21b Cacko Rom.
You can try to find fonts that have all the characters you needa dn install them. That may help.
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Update all applications from last Sharp Rom. There are 1.40 for SL-C860:
http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c860/update/...ate/kyodaku.asp (http://support.ezaurus.com/sl-c860/update/c860update/kyodaku.asp)
What's the difference?
Differences for 1.40JP ROM are...
1. Mobile network service (Kyocera KWINS)
2. FOMA Software (NTT DOCOMO 3G Card drivers)
3. Mail update (problems with some Japanese ISPs)
4. Fix for problems when trying to mount SD Cards using the Z configured for storage (sometimes mount read only ??)
5. Input alphabetic characters into the manufacture number during registration (????).
I think the only useful bit may be 4.
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Would it be possible to include the latest 2.6 version kernel in the new ROM?
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I'm not sure if this is workable (Sharp problem?), but I'd like to be
able to enter whitespace in the ESSID name in the WLAN Networking tool.
It somewhat bugs me that I have to go edit config files for this one
simple task while otherwise the Networking GUI fullfills my needs.
Besides, the Symbol Spectrum WLAN card drivers need updating. It
seems that the included version does not like access points with 802.11b
AND g functionality. I've debugged this for two days now and it seems
to be a linux driver problem. The newest Symbol Windows drivers work
fine, so the card itself is OK.
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kuijer001,
I'm sure if you could provide a working 2.6 stable build for the Zaurus we would all be happy to get it and I'm sure Masolvsky would love to include it.
At the moment it doesn't exist for the Z, there are a few closed binaries because of closed spec HW in the current Kernel and I think there are some bootloader problems with 2.6 on the Z that still need nailing.
I would check out the OpenEmbedded website if you are interested - I think that they are focussing on this - don't know what they are doing re: SD Card drivers etc. though.
- Andy
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A wonderful job with the current ROM.
In general, I would favor in the next release any improvements that improve application load-time, and this is particularly important for the PIM apps like KA/Pi, KO/Pi, etc. In terms of the filesystem, I would opt for one that has worse compression but is faster.
On a related note, I notice that the Zaurus' display system is not as fast as [much simpler] Palms'. Ie, menus are slower, switching tabs in Qtopia you can see the screen redraw, etc. If this can be improved upon, great! If there's any discussion on this that anyone knows about, please provide me the link!
Best, Sriram
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I didn't see this answered, so I'll ask again. What are the odds that us poor beknighted SL-5500 users will see this version?
It'd be nice to have some updated, working options for a change...
Sorry, but very little chances. We couldn't even find anyone willing to maintain a version for 5600 and I just physicaly cannot keep up with all Zaurus models...
Where can I get the source for Cacko? I'd be very interested in it on the 5600. I have no doubt building/maintaining a ROM is a lot of work but I'd like to give it a go.
Cheers.
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How about including libssl.0.9.7 in the ROM this time? Since Cacko has libcrypto for SSH but not any of the other OpenSSL libs, it does not have the complete set of libraries for other apps (Kphone comes to mind). So, either including all of OpenSSL, or a seperate package with just the missing libs would be nice.
Thanks!
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I have one, what about fixing the problems with cacko and the hardware clock? Mine doesn't want to keep time properly...
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really? mine seems to keep time
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flandry i don't have any problems inserting headphones at any point. It is done in hardware, but having built the remote control I know that the socket is a four pole one and the two outer pins have to be joined together (by a standard headphone plug) for this to change to the headphones. If i'm using the remote i have to hit a button before the speaker switches off.
You're right, it's only an issue with the remote, not just headphones. Still seems there must be an easy fix.
But i've got a better one on my wishlist: unmuting when adjusting volume from the remote. I'll have it muted for typing in a meeting, and then plug in the headphones and go, only to realize it's muted. Of course this one could be resolved by me being less of a flake, but again it seems to me it should be an easy fix.
I'm definitely having problems with the clock, so if there is some way to keep that properly synced it would be great.
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Hi,
I am also glad to see that the Cacko ROM isn't dead!
Maybe it has been addressed before but I coldn't find it:
What I need is a bug fix in the IMAP mail connection if this is possible. My mail account at web.de has predefined folders with German umlaut like "Unerwünscht". This causes the IMAP to creates a folder "ünscht" and then stop with an error message.
The other solution would be to use a different mail client. But this would also mean to use a different address book and so on.
Many thanks for the nice Cacko Rom
Jan
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The only problem I have is writing to my 1GIG sd (msdos format) card. Large writes like MP3 files cause the file system to go "read only".
I am happy to see the Cacko ROM continue.
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Well... this thread has been running for three weeks. Any decisions about a next release? My only concern with the modular approach is about how long it will take to update/test the modules once the new core is released. I hope that this ROM continues to progress.
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Well I for one would like to see the latest version of fdisk (2.12a) and e2fsprogs (1.35) in the next version.
If you check out my 'New versions of fdisk....' thread then you will see three people with similar experiences to myself. Older versions showing incorrect geometry with fdisk and successful partitioning with the newer version of fdisk.
I can say that e2fsck 1.35 particularly is an important addition when using ext3 formatted cards - I will definitely be putting these tools on my system if they don't make it to the ROM.
A couple of things are holding me back from putting this file out for general use.
i. I NEED MORE REPORTS !, if someone feels like they would like to help out then please give the tools a test and please drop a note on the thread (the 'New versions..' thread please), it's important, we need to know that people are using these tools without problems - and if there are problems then we definitely need to know about that too.
ii. Existing tools in existing ROMs, the current IPK installs the tools to /usr/local/bin and then it is up to the user to set up the path so these files are hit first. - On Cacko 1.21b the files are in /sbin which is read only (no surprise there) - It does mean, however, that the tools can't reside in that directory and you do have to sort out the path.
Anton, I would suggest that if you aren't happy with testing feedback on these tools before you are ready to ship the next ROM version that you shift the fdisk and e2fsprogs to an IPK install so that people have the option of installing either the original or the newer set of tools without having to faff around with the path statements.
- Andy
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Would it be possible to include the latest 2.6 version kernel in the new ROM?
No
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4. Fix for problems when trying to mount SD Cards using the Z configured for storage (sometimes mount read only ??)
I think the only useful bit may be 4.
I'm not sure what application that will be. That's probably a kernel module?
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I'm not sure if this is workable (Sharp problem?), but I'd like to be
able to enter whitespace in the ESSID name in the WLAN Networking tool.
It somewhat bugs me that I have to go edit config files for this one
simple task while otherwise the Networking GUI fullfills my needs.
We don't have sources for the Sharp utilities.
Besides, the Symbol Spectrum WLAN card drivers need updating. It
seems that the included version does not like access points with 802.11b
AND g functionality. I've debugged this for two days now and it seems
to be a linux driver problem. The newest Symbol Windows drivers work
fine, so the card itself is OK.
As I mentioned I'm planning to include latest versions of bluetooth and wireless drivers along with kernel patched to Wireless Extetions 15.
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how far out from a release do you expect we are? no rush just curious we all appriciate everything
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How about including libssl.0.9.7 in the ROM this time? Since Cacko has libcrypto for SSH but not any of the other OpenSSL libs, it does not have the complete set of libraries for other apps (Kphone comes to mind). So, either including all of OpenSSL, or a seperate package with just the missing libs would be nice.
Thanks!
Are there any companitility issues with the libraries? I remember some posts from people installing OpenSSH and breaking SSH in Cacko ROM. Is this resolved?
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I have one, what about fixing the problems with cacko and the hardware clock? Mine doesn't want to keep time properly...
What do you mean?
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The only problem I have is writing to my 1GIG sd (msdos format) card. Large writes like MP3 files cause the file system to go "read only".
I am happy to see the Cacko ROM continue.
Maybe this is what is fixed in point 4 of the 1.40JP update. - I just ran the Japanese page through the excite translation stuff so I can't say it was specifically related to just happening at mount time.
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Well... this thread has been running for three weeks. Any decisions about a next release? My only concern with the modular approach is about how long it will take to update/test the modules once the new core is released. I hope that this ROM continues to progress.
Yes, it does continue. Just keep in mind that maintaining Cacko ROM is not my full time job, so I'm trying to find as much spare time as possible...
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I have one, what about fixing the problems with cacko and the hardware clock? Mine doesn't want to keep time properly...
What do you mean?
Omega,
This could be by any chance related to having to perform a reset could it ?
As part of the normal shutdown the system time gets saved and reloaded when the system boots again. If you, say for instance, had to pull the battery then the time never gets saved and will be reloaded from the last successful shutdown time.
Could that be it or is it possibly something else ?
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Hi,
I am also glad to see that the Cacko ROM isn't dead!
Maybe it has been addressed before but I coldn't find it:
What I need is a bug fix in the IMAP mail connection if this is possible. My mail account at web.de has predefined folders with German umlaut like "Unerwünscht". This causes the IMAP to creates a folder "ünscht" and then stop with an error message.
The other solution would be to use a different mail client. But this would also mean to use a different address book and so on.
Many thanks for the nice Cacko Rom
Jan
There is nothing we can do about existing Sharp PIM application - we have no source code. I've tried mail apps from 5600 and 6000 devices. The 6000 version doesn't start - it has some dependencies on 6000-specific libsl. The 5600 version has some issues with the font sizes. We're stuck with the the email client that came with C series...
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Anton, I would suggest that if you aren't happy with testing feedback on these tools before you are ready to ship the next ROM version that you shift the fdisk and e2fsprogs to an IPK install so that people have the option of installing either the original or the newer set of tools without having to faff around with the path statements.
Sorry for not getting back to you - was very busy. Yes, I am planning to either include the new tools or build them as a package.
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Well... this thread has been running for three weeks. Any decisions about a next release? My only concern with the modular approach is about how long it will take to update/test the modules once the new core is released. I hope that this ROM continues to progress.
Yes, it does continue. Just keep in mind that maintaining Cacko ROM is not my full time job, so I'm trying to find as much spare time as possible...
Thanks. I am amazed that any of you folks decide to share your work (for free). Also, you are the most responsive ROM/App person on the forum, so thanks. If I can get the email fully functional (the addressbook integration in alphabetical (English) order) and a working video player, I will be glad to contribute to reimburse you for your work. Thanks again. Waiting patiently.
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Thanks. I am amazed that any of you folks decide to share your work (for free). Also, you are the most responsive ROM/App person on the forum, so thanks. If I can get the email fully functional (the addressbook integration in alphabetical (English) order) and a working video player, I will be glad to contribute to reimburse you for your work. Thanks again. Waiting patiently
I'm not sure I'll get to fix the e-mail app, although I'll try again to use 5600 version of it. However I'm planning to update kino2 player to be more full featured, including support for playlists and remote control. Then it will be the default player for the ROM, other players will be moved into IPKs.
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Regarding the openssl package. You can break SSH if you install the wrong ssl package and overwrite the /usr/lib/libcrypto.so with an incompatible version. This package:
http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1416 (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1416)
installs under /opt/QtPalmtop/lib that does not cause problems, but they are all old (and there are known exploits) and it would be nice to have a known good package for Cacko.
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I've been looking at the Ko/PI PIsync apps. They are looking quite good, I don't know if it is mature enough yet, but they are looking VERY nice. So Maslovsky, what do you think of switching out the DTM PIMS with the Ko/PI versions? I know that some of the DTM databases are needed for Qtopia to load so perhaps this is a silly idea.
Oh, the Ko/PI PIM apps could solve alot of the functionality problems that people are having with DTM PIMs.
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Well, please don't dump anything completely. I use the Sharp included PIM's daily (and sycn them with Outlook) as well as the Sharp included Mail app. I also use both Opera and NetFront. For some reason some sites work better with one and some with the other. Go figure. I also still use the Sharp included media player for movie files. For some reason, I guess I convert them wrong, Kino 2 does not work as well for the DVD's that I have converted.
So I guess I vote for keeping what is in the current ROM. Or, if you do pull anything, like the Sharp media player, make an IPK for it so we can add it back in easily if we find Kino just doesn't do the job for us. (Which is a shame, b/c Kino is very cool.)
I am open to the idea of installing some things as IPK's, but after a while, if I am installing everything back on that was taken off, the point gets lost.
On the other hand, it makes updates easier that way. The "Proto ROM" or "Kompany ROM" that Proto put out (that was mostly a copy of the Cacko ROM) used a modular aproach. It included no software and you intalled it all via IPK. That made it VERY easy for Proto to release patches to any one package. (Until he dissapeared off of the face of the planet.)
It would be interesting to see what the actual space usage difference would be between an approach like Proto's ROM where all apps are IPKs put on after the ROM, and one where every app under the sun was prepackaged in the ROM.
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I agree on the ability to sync. I have no choice as to the OS/Office Suite we use at work: It is XP and Office XP and if I can't sync with my Zaurus, my Z is worthless. Also, it is most likely that I will be able to get the IT folks to install a better known sync app like Intellisync, etc. I really don't care what Cacko provides for PIM apps as long as they can be sync'd to my work desktop and the addressbook and email app are integrated (Maslovsky knows what I mean).
I would submit that we would be better off getting behind one good app and supporting the development (ie financially and by using it) that to have several apps to do the same thing. Netfront nor Opera excite me as they are not open source. I would like to see Cacko get behind a best-of-breed open source browser (I use Firefox at home with Thunderbird for mail and Sunbird for calendar) and then we can work with the developers to make it do what we need to do.
I have suggested previously and will say again that I think Maslovsky should select a Sharp-included English version or a single best-of-breed open source application for each function/task. I would like to see these included in the ROM so they take up less space. Alternatives can be made available as seperate .ipks. I think that if you had used one of the full-featured versions of Kino2 that are out there, you would be much more satisfied. If Kino2 is the only multimedia player included with Cacko, it is a heck of a lot easier to insure that it is fully functional.
These are just my thoughts and I don't want to make anybody made. I think that Maslovsky agrees on the multimedia player. I am glad that the point about synchronization was brought up.
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I guess the question is, "Could people (like the second-to-last poster) migrate to the KO/pi apps without losing anything?" I'm inclined to think so, and personally would love to completely ditch the inbuilt mail and PIM apps since none of them work quite right for me.
Of course, the feasability of running a Sharp-based ROM without those apps is an issue. If it can be done, i think that should be subject of a poll.
Incidentally, is there any part of this cacko project that can be easily delegated?
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Synching is a HUGE issue for me. That's why I don't use the Sharp PIMs since they don't sync with evolution. So, I'm currently using the Opie PIMs with Multisync.
Everyone really should give the Ko/IP stuff a try if they have not already. Take a look at the feature list:
http://www.pi-sync.net/html/overview.html (http://www.pi-sync.net/html/overview.html)
Another big thing is that this is an application suite that is being developed and the source code is available. I don't think we will be seeing any major improvements on the DTM apps anytime soon.
If you are interested I have the packages on my feed at:
http://www.bryandeluca.com/feed (http://www.bryandeluca.com/feed)
Install:
kmicrokdelibs
kaddressbook
korganizer
kopiemail
Set them to auto-load into memory (like the other PIMs default to) and give them a go. The KDE stuff won't trod upon your DTM data so you can safely give them a test drive.
I understand the desire to stick with the default PIMs if you sync with Outlook. The possibility exists that Ko/PI could sync with Outlook in the future and you would have . Since QPE depends on the DTM databases on the clamshells this may not be of much value or even possible.
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First: Thanks maslovsky - You have already made my Z infinitely more useable than it was before. (and I am still on 1.20)
--- That said, here's my requset: How about obex. I would like to be able to do object transfers over bluetooth. I realize that it would not autimatically allow BT transfers from the apps, but at least I could use the obex utils from the command line. Perhaps if this is included someone will write a gui, or add it as a function to a file manager.
Thanks !!!
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I thought that obex was already built into the file browser. I don't have a bluetooth card at the moment to verify.
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Time to weigh in. I am also in a position of having to use XP and Microsoft Office. I will not have a choice for any other OS or email program. My Z must be able to sync for it to be useful. I have tried KO/Pi and I am very impressed, but it MUST have a DTM to sync (at least for now) Please do not pull the Sharp apps, unless and until KO/Pi can sync with XP and Outlook.
Anton, Many thanks for a great product. Please keep up the great work!!
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Actually is there any chance of nailing the graphical quirk that occurs when you get a jffs2 defrag kicking in on an 860 (don't know if it effects other models) ?
On a Sharp ROM you get a message, the FS defrags then the ROM goes back to the time setting etc.
On Cacko 1.21b you get a black screen with large (chopped) letters showing some modprobe commands for a few seconds then a white screen for a couple of minutes before it drops back to the time setting thing.
You can trigger it if you construct a scenario where you are repeatedly copy large quantities of data to flash and deleting it over and over.
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I guess the question is, "Could people (like the second-to-last poster) migrate to the KO/pi apps without losing anything?" I'm inclined to think so, and personally would love to completely ditch the inbuilt mail and PIM apps since none of them work quite right for me.
It would be nice, but I have to sync to Outlook. Otherwise I might as well go back to my Palm. It is SO important to me that it is actually in my signature on here!
Honestly, I think most of you have not used a Palm Pilot to sync to Outlook. The built in Palm software is horrible compared to the Sharp built in apps that can sync to outlook.
The built in Sharp apps do the job for me. I never get corrupted outlook data. The reminders actually WORK (in fact the Zaurus is more "on time" than my pc is!). Recurring events work properly. Because of this I LIKE the Sharp PIM's. I know, "better than Palm" isn't a reason to like something, but I used the Palm for a LONG time and fought with it daily. My Zaurus and Sharp PIM's "just work" with no futzing.
Now, yes, if my boss didn't need me to keep my appointments in an outlook calendar, then things would be different, but he does, so . . .
I am interested in something new, though, because my understanding is that Outlook 2003 will not sync with the Sharp PIM's? Is this true? If so, I'm sure in a year or so I'll be forced to upgrade and then I'll be in trouble.
I'd help, but I'm not a programmer. I did write a Python app (mostly borrowed code) to export my Outlook contacts into a SQLite database that I can carry on my Z and search using another Python app. I still use the gui Sharp PIM contacts, though, because it is faster to sync up every day. That and my Python script thing is only a one way sync.
In a perfect world I would run Linux on my desktop and not just my PDA, but interoperability is what keeps every OS relavent, right?
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I am interested in something new, though, because my understanding is that Outlook 2003 will not sync with the Sharp PIM's? Is this true? If so, I'm sure in a year or so I'll be forced to upgrade and then I'll be in trouble.
I use my 5600 with Outlook 2003 with no problems. Synching works great. I've used it with the stock Sharp ROM, Zynergy and Watapon with no problems.
For the most part I like the Sharp PIM apps. My only real complaint is the alarm function doesn't have a snooze. Neither did my Palm but I was able to use Datebook3 instead of the built-in Palm app and it DID have alarm snoozing.
Now email, that's another issue. The Sharp mail app is fine for synching with Outlook but *trying* to read email from my home imap server was a bust. Never could get it to authenticate correctly. Sylpheed under X/QT worked fine.
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Thanks Craco for you fantastic work. I am looking forward to the new version, since your ROM combines ability to use Qtopia applications, have everything in English and better preformance than the original Sharp ROM. I am a multilingual user, frequently switching and mixing between English, Swedish, Finnish, German, Russian and Japanese, so support for all of these is very important for me.
I am now forced to flash to the original Sharp ROM when i need my Zaurus C760 as a Japanese dictionary and your ROM for other general functions and as a Russian dictionary. So could you please include support for Japanese in the new version or make an easy ipk for installing it. Unfortunatelly I do not know Linux so well that I want to start to mess around.
There are basicly three reasons to include Japanese support:
-Sharps handwriting recognition system is the best in the world! I miss it when writting English too.
-Many users seems to ask for it (I scrolled the forum).
-Multilinguality is the road that almost all applications I have ever seen is walking along, so it is strange to remove a language.
PLEASE!
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Thunderbird
I would love to be able to use Thunderbird, the email program, with the Cacko Rom.
Then I could have email file compatability with my (sigh) XP Laptop email program
Oh Joy!
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Hello,
Just two requests...
1) Can you please fix the codec problem w/ Kino2? Re:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...wtopic=4913&hl= (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=4913&hl=)
https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...wtopic=6129&hl= (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6129&hl=)
Currently, it has less functionality than the older versions of kino2. A good idea would also be to include the new mplayer, although I do understand it's much bigger (~3mb)...
2) Can you also look at the problem with the Windows USB storage driver, re:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...?showtopic=5654 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=5654)
Thanks for all your hard work, it's well appreciated!
Yz
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tn:
As has been mentioned in other threads, there are ipks available that will allow you to add (restore?) Japanese support in roms that have removed it. I would suggest taking a look at this thread (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6587&hl=japanese).
One thing though... in the Cacko rom, the kanji and kana keys have been changed to act as Ctrl and Alt. Unfortunately, this has been done by patching the kernel (couldn't this had been done just using KeyHelper?), which means that you'll have to recompile the kernel (or find a precompiled kernel that doesn't modify the keys) if you want the keys back. Of course, you could always get by just using the stylus to select the input method.
Hope this helps.
- ashikase
anpachi, gifu, japan
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Is it possible to have Japanese support without changing the language to japanese?
I´m just a beginner in japanese and the dialogs are very hard to translate for me.
I saw some menueitems in english when changed to japanese language so it must be possible, or not?
Cryssli
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Please add Japanese text input/output support. I'd much rather do this than have to twiddle around after the install.
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I've been looking at the Ko/PI PIsync apps. They are looking quite good, I don't know if it is mature enough yet, but they are looking VERY nice. So Maslovsky, what do you think of switching out the DTM PIMS with the Ko/PI versions? I know that some of the DTM databases are needed for Qtopia to load so perhaps this is a silly idea.
Oh, the Ko/PI PIM apps could solve alot of the functionality problems that people are having with DTM PIMs.
I think I'll let users decide which PIMs to use by having a Lite version of the ROM in addition to the full version as it has been discussed. I'm planning to ask people, which applications they want to see as IPK versions instead of being built into the ROM.
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It would be interesting to see what the actual space usage difference would be between an approach like Proto's ROM where all apps are IPKs put on after the ROM, and one where every app under the sun was prepackaged in the ROM.
Just to give you an idea, files built into a cramfs image are compressed 30 to 50%. Squashfs filesystem, which I'm using instead of cramfs for the new ROM version gives about 10% better compression with no visible speed degradation.
JFFS2 (used for writable internal flash) gives very little compression, so you'll definitely loose quite a lot of internal space when installing IPKs.
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First: Thanks maslovsky - You have already made my Z infinitely more useable than it was before. (and I am still on 1.20)
--- That said, here's my requset: How about obex. I would like to be able to do object transfers over bluetooth. I realize that it would not autimatically allow BT transfers from the apps, but at least I could use the obex utils from the command line. Perhaps if this is included someone will write a gui, or add it as a function to a file manager.
Thanks !!!
Actualy I have this in my plan. I've been playing with OBEX over bluetooth some time ago and I remember I could make it work from command line. I'm not sure I'll have enough time to build any GUI for that, but I'm planning to include at least base support.
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I am now forced to flash to the original Sharp ROM when i need my Zaurus C760 as a Japanese dictionary and your ROM for other general functions and as a Russian dictionary. So could you please include support for Japanese in the new version or make an easy ipk for installing it. Unfortunatelly I do not know Linux so well that I want to start to mess around.
There are basicly three reasons to include Japanese support:
-Sharps handwriting recognition system is the best in the world! I miss it when writting English too.
-Many users seems to ask for it (I scrolled the forum).
-Multilinguality is the road that almost all applications I have ever seen is walking along, so it is strange to remove a language.
PLEASE!
I'd be glad to include Japanese support, but I have no idea what's needed for that... If someone could give me instructions on how to get Japanses support back without breaking current English support, I'll try to include it as an IPK at least.
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1) Can you please fix the codec problem w/ Kino2? Re:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...wtopic=4913&hl= (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=4913&hl=)
https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...wtopic=6129&hl= (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6129&hl=)
Currently, it has less functionality than the older versions of kino2. A good idea would also be to include the new mplayer, although I do understand it's much bigger (~3mb)...
As far as I remember the mplayer version should have been the same in both kino2 versions. Anyway, I'm planning a major update of fuctionality in kino2 with the new ROM, so I'll also take a look at other issues that people have seen.
2) Can you also look at the problem with the Windows USB storage driver, re:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...?showtopic=5654 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=5654)
I have this one fixed. At least I've just tried switching between the two modes on my newly flashed 750 and it worked perfectly.
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Cryssli, DeadJB, maslovsky:
On the Japanese issue... it's probably best to leave Japanese support as an addon ipk, instead of including it in the ROM, as I believe Japanese support takes quite a bit of space (about 5MB, and that's not including the Cx60 dictionaries).
The process of re-adding Japanese support is extremely simple:
1. install japanese-support_1.0_arm.ipk (see linked thread mentioned in my last post)
2. in Settings, use the Language panel to switch the system locale to Japanese
3. run Stubear's conversion script, which will restore English menus and icon names (while maintaining the Japanese locale). This way, you will have English menus and such again, but still have the ability to install and use Japanese software. A version of Stubear's script is available here (http://www.wbcd.org/zaurus/convert.sh).
Steps 2 and 3 can be done in either order... probably better to do step 3 first if you can't read any Japanese.
The only issue that remains is the ctrl/alt issue (see previous post). If you don't want to mess with the kernel, you might be able to restore the functionality of the kanji/kana keys using keyhelper, if you can determine the proper key names.
- ashikase
anpachi, gifu, japan
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In the rom I'd like to see applets like LUSS screen saver, battery-changeCCCRapplet, qpe-clipboard, qpe-irda, applet manager, custom input, irk , alarm, qkonsole, keyhelper because I think very little people know them while they are extremely useful !
On the app side I like qualendar, zbedic, zknights, sokoban, portabase, opie reader, qpdf2, portabase, tximage (much faster than imaging app) but I understand tastes may be differents...
DTM apps are much better than KOPI &co - qualendar is a pleasure to use. Simple and fast.
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Just a simple silly thing: have the CPU system info exclude the kapm-idled process, which is designed to hog the cpu in its very special way (to conserve battery)
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JFFS2 (used for writable internal flash) gives very little compression, so you'll definitely loose quite a lot of internal space when installing IPKs.
No way to use squashfs for ipk's?
Might be a pain to build different ROMs according to people's wants...
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What about an iptables package or iptables built into the ROM? There are many cool things that can be done with iptables.
ok, if it's not too much work
I vote for iptables too. If it doesn't slow down things too much. It would be useful.
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In the rom I'd like to see applets like LUSS screen saver, battery-changeCCCRapplet, qpe-clipboard, qpe-irda, applet manager, custom input, irk , alarm, qkonsole, keyhelper because I think very little people know them while they are extremely useful !
Have you actualy looked at Cacko ROM 1.21b? Most of these applets/applications are already there
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1) Can you please fix the codec problem w/ Kino2? Re:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...wtopic=4913&hl= (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=4913&hl=)
https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...wtopic=6129&hl= (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6129&hl=)
Currently, it has less functionality than the older versions of kino2. A good idea would also be to include the new mplayer, although I do understand it's much bigger (~3mb)...
As far as I remember the mplayer version should have been the same in both kino2 versions. Anyway, I'm planning a major update of fuctionality in kino2 with the new ROM, so I'll also take a look at other issues that people have seen.
2) Can you also look at the problem with the Windows USB storage driver, re:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...?showtopic=5654 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=5654)
I have this one fixed. At least I've just tried switching between the two modes on my newly flashed 750 and it worked perfectly.
Thanks Maslovsky.
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Actually is there any chance of nailing the graphical quirk that occurs when you get a jffs2 defrag kicking in on an 860 (don't know if it effects other models) ?
On a Sharp ROM you get a message, the FS defrags then the ROM goes back to the time setting etc.
On Cacko 1.21b you get a black screen with large (chopped) letters showing some modprobe commands for a few seconds then a white screen for a couple of minutes before it drops back to the time setting thing.
You can trigger it if you construct a scenario where you are repeatedly copy large quantities of data to flash and deleting it over and over.
Any thought's on this defrag issue Anton ?
Even if you haven't any ideas as to why it may be happening may be good to hear.
I'm just wondering if it's anything to do with the ATI W100 patch for the kernel. What is that supposed to do anyway ?
- Andy
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How about adding some form of Logon security - the current option is a bit limited - it would be nice to have a timeout option - i.e. when you suspend and then turn on again the password is not instantly required - maybe a suspension of 5 minutes or more before password entry is required when resuming the device.
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I will check out my clock problems further and report. I got the impression it was losing time on suspend... we'll see.
Flandry, I didn't realise about the remote control. The same happens to me, but with my homemade remote i only need to hit any button on the remote and the application switches over to headphones.
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Ah hah !, just had the defrag kick in while I had a USB console open.
It seems the Z switches to 320x240 for some reason whilst trying to do this on Cacko ROM, don't think it does this on the original Sharp.
I'm wondering if the process writes something to the frame buffer directly and therefore screws up the display if it's in 320x240 mode.... I also wonder why it's switching to 320x240 mode... ?
- Andy
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Actually is there any chance of nailing the graphical quirk that occurs when you get a jffs2 defrag kicking in on an 860 (don't know if it effects other models) ?
On a Sharp ROM you get a message, the FS defrags then the ROM goes back to the time setting etc.
On Cacko 1.21b you get a black screen with large (chopped) letters showing some modprobe commands for a few seconds then a white screen for a couple of minutes before it drops back to the time setting thing.
You can trigger it if you construct a scenario where you are repeatedly copy large quantities of data to flash and deleting it over and over.
Any thought's on this defrag issue Anton ?
Even if you haven't any ideas as to why it may be happening may be good to hear.
I'm just wondering if it's anything to do with the ATI W100 patch for the kernel. What is that supposed to do anyway ?
- Andy
Sorry, I have no idea what the source of this problem might be. I think you can avoid it if you don't fill up your internal storage with large amouns of data.
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In response to Japanese support (cross posting from another thread, and then some):
My only issue now, after doing the Japanese text upgrade, is that there's no clear way to input with Japanese text. Even if you use the onscreen selector to choose your input method, there are many times where it just won't switch to Japanese, or (on some very rare instances) English.
If there was a selectable keymapping, or an optional install package process upon flashing the rom (is this even possible?), because now since the kana keys are converted to control and alt, there's no real reliable way to go between input methods. At least for me, the on screen selector just doesn't work well. I tried fooling around with the keyhelper, and that didn't really help much, either.
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One request and one suggestion.
* A newer version of Busybox with adduser fixed !
* Create a Cacko lookalike IPK (or set of IPKs) so the Japanese guys can use all the original Japanese stuff in the 860 ROM without having to re add it. Obviously this is just a suggestion from a Gaijin (is that right ?) but if the Japanese Cacko fans could list what they like it may be easier to add the stuff via IPKs.
- Andy
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maslovsky,
I wouldl ike to see NLS support on the new Cakco ROM. I use the Zaurus to talk to many different windows platform which uses different codepage, if NLS modules (ipks) could be made available for the kernel would be good.
PS: Can you point me to how I can get recompile the kernel for the Cacko ROM 1.21B with just an additional NLS support ??? And how to just reflash the zImage, without changing other things in the current Cacko 1.21B. I love the current ROM, and I am afraid to loose it when I muck about the the kernel.
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DeadJB:
As I mentioned before, you can recompile the kernel to get the kanji/kana keys back. That's what I did, and everything now works just like on the original Sharp ROM. There's a thread somewhere that includes a link to the patches used for the Cacko kernel; just apply all the patches except for the ctrl/alt key patch. Alternatively, you can try a precompiled kernel such as Tetsu's special kernel; however, you may lose some of Cacko's kernel's features, such as improved battery status.
The solution to this problem would be to remove the ctrl/alt key switch from the Cacko ROM, and use KeyHelper to assign the ctrl/alt keys. This would only work for Qtopia, though... it wouldn't work when booting to console. I would think that there is probably a way to adjust the keymap for console mode, though.
- ashikase
anpachi, gifu, japan
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It would be nice to be able to get a working IM client on the Z. While it need not be part of the default ROM, it would be nice if the libpng and such are updated to facilitate easier use of gaim.
And... while i like Opera, it has some serious issues. Is it going to be possible to update the version?
Another thing: is there a way to lock the backlight applet so that it doesn't dim to minimum after a few seconds of inactivity when the AC isn't attached?
Thanks
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I wanted to give you guys some update. I had a lot of work, so I coulnd't spend as much time working on the new ORM as I wanted. Anyway I'm currently finished with the kernel work, I've crated all nessesary patches, so that by the time new ROM is out full kernel sources will be available also for people who want to build their own modules or or customize the krenel.
I'm currently working on kino2 mplayer - updating it to work with the latest vewrion of mplayer optimized for ATI video chip. The new mplayer version gives excellent performance results - I was able to play unrotated 512x250 MPEG4 video without recompression!
Also, I'm adding a lot of new features to kino2, such as playlist support, support for Sharp remote control, customizable keys, etc. Kino2 will be the primary media player for the new ROM.
I have no idea when I'll be finished with the ROM, so just stay tuned...
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Any chance of you releasing Kino2 source for inclusion into OpenEmbedded and therefore bring it into OpenZaurus as well. I like kino2 and would love to see it in OZ.
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Can you release a ipkg of the player for us to install on older roms now? I wouldn't mind the new functionality; I'm finding the version in 1.21b isn't playing a lot of files.
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Can you release a ipkg of the player for us to install on older roms now? I wouldn't mind the new functionality; I'm finding the version in 1.21b isn't playing a lot of files.
http://atty.jp/?plugin=attach&refer=Zaurus...re5.1-1_arm.ipk (http://atty.jp/?plugin=attach&refer=Zaurus%2Fmplayer-w100&openfile=mplayer-w100_1.0pre5.1-1_arm.ipk)
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Can you release a ipkg of the player for us to install on older roms now? I wouldn't mind the new functionality; I'm finding the version in 1.21b isn't playing a lot of files.
http://atty.jp/?plugin=attach&refer=Zaurus...re5.1-1_arm.ipk (http://atty.jp/?plugin=attach&refer=Zaurus%2Fmplayer-w100&openfile=mplayer-w100_1.0pre5.1-1_arm.ipk)
Cool, finally got the live.com stuff linked in, now I can play my .rm files !!
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There is a possibility to have "aac" support ? in Kino2 (with playlist feature) or with MPEGplayer. So i could listen same music on my Zaurus and on my Nokia..
Librairies FAAC (http://sourceforge.net/projects/faac/)
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Am I missing anything? Is there a Netfront Version 3.1 out already?
I thought only the new SL-C3000 did have that one...
Maybe there is some other stuff on the SL-C3000, that could be used on the older models as well (the new Kernel 2.4.20 for example) ...
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There is a possibility to have "aac" support ? in Kino2 (with playlist feature) or with MPEGplayer....
I tried the new mplayer-W100... (unpacked ipk and link with ...) it works with aac in mp4 container, only for file.mp4 (Neroencoder and aac_profile = HE AAC codec = AAC Nero AAC ), not for aac from Faac. I could make video with Xvid and aac in avi container...
I tried Playlist.m3u, no problem.. you can jump between tracks with "fn + >", etc..; under Qconsole. Keys work like Mplayer on desktop, so Kino2 is a bit crazy, it's diffcult to forward
bash-2.05$ mplayer 02_Together.mp4
MPlayer 1.0pre5-3.4.2 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team
CPU: ARM
Reading config file /opt/QtPalmtop/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf: No such file or directory
Reading config file /home/zaurus/.mplayer/config
Reading /home/zaurus/.mplayer/codecs.conf: 73 audio & 180 video codecs
font: can't open file: /home/zaurus/.mplayer/font/font.desc
font: can't open file: /opt/QtPalmtop/share/mplayer/font/font.descFailed to open /dev/rtc: Device or resource busy (it should be readable by the user.)
Using usleep() timing
Input config file /home/zaurus/.mplayer/input.conf parsed: 53 binds
Playing 02_Together.mp4.
ISO: File Type Major Brand: ISO/IEC 14496-1 (MPEG-4 system) v2
QuickTime/MOV file format detected.
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MOV track #0: 191 chunks, 4195 samples
Audio bits: 16 chans: 2 rate: 44100
MOV: Found MPEG4 audio Elementary Stream Descriptor atom (54)!
Fourcc: mp4a
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MOV track #1: 1 chunks, 0 samples
Generic track - not completely understood! (id: 1)
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MOV track #2: 1 chunks, 0 samples
Generic track - not completely understood! (id: 2)
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MOV: longest streams: A: #0 (4195 samples) V: #-1 (0 samples)
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [faad] AAC (MPEG2/4 Advanced Audio Coding) FAAD: compressed input bitrate missing, assuming 128kbit/s!
AUDIO: 22050 Hz, 2 ch, 16 bit (0x10), ratio: 16000->88200 (128.0 kbit)
Selected audio codec: [faad] afm:faad (FAAD AAC (MPEG2/MPEG4 Audio) decoder)
==========================================================================
Checking audio filter chain for 22050Hz/2ch/16bit -> 22050Hz/2ch/16bit...
AF_pre: af format: 2 bps, 2 ch, 22050 hz, little endian signed int
AF_pre: 22050Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian)
AO: [oss] 22050Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian) (2 bps)
Building audio filter chain for 22050Hz/2ch/16bit -> 22050Hz/2ch/16bit...
Video: no video
Starting playback...
A: 5.9 8.3% 0%
Exiting... (Quit)
bash-2.05$
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The light applet is bugged, it turns off the screen when set to minimum.
The bug doesn't show up when using the keyboard to set the light level.
Would it be possible to turn the screen on/off when opening/shutting the lid, so that you don't get a closed Z with a lit up screen eating away your battery?
Would it possible to turn off screen rotation even when in palmtop mode. I use my Z in landscape orientation even when closed with the screen to the outside... So something like a screen control panel would be nice.
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Also, I'm adding a lot of new features to kino2, such as playlist support, support for Sharp remote control, customizable keys, etc. Kino2 will be the primary media player for the new ROM.
This sounds FUCKING AWESOME
Some kind of multiformat/codec/container is definitely welcome.
Question: why are music player and media player both in the ROM? They offer just
about the same functionality?
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I don't know if the PIM functionality is in scope for Cacko 1.22, but there are a few things I'd like to see fixed.
1. Todo and Addressbook - the Category menu should list the categories for selection rather than having to go to a sub-screen with the combo box ( 5 screen taps )
2. Todo - the check box on the main list should be smaller when using smaller fonts so more lines can be viewed.
3. Addressbook - tapping on the 2nd column header in the main list should sort rather than select new columns. (I keep name and company 1st and second) the last column could be left so you can pick different data.
4. Calendar - use smaller fonts for the day numbers and move to right of cell (like KO/PI) to allow 3 events displayed per day
5. Use the selected font size generally on all the entry screens and menus.
Just my 2 cents worth.
If modifying the PIM is not in scope for this release, perhaps someone can point me to the source so I can make the changes myself. (note that although I'm an old hack - 25 years programming - I've not built anything for the Z yet so it would be a while)
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The light applet is bugged, it turns off the screen when set to minimum.
The bug doesn't show up when using the keyboard to set the light level.
Strange, but I don't see that problem.
Would it be possible to turn the screen on/off when opening/shutting the lid, so that you don't get a closed Z with a lit up screen eating away your battery?
It already does turn LCD off when lid is closed
Would it possible to turn off screen rotation even when in palmtop mode. I use my Z in landscape orientation even when closed with the screen to the outside... So something like a screen control panel would be nice.
Very unlikey because this is handled by Qtopia process itself, which we don;t have sources for...
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Question: why are music player and media player both in the ROM? They offer just about the same functionality?
Because Music Player supoprts remote control and Media Player can play OGG files.
If I succeed in what I'm planning to implement in kino2, it will probably be the only media player included in the ROM. Other players will be removed and packaged into IPK.
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I don't know if the PIM functionality is in scope for Cacko 1.22, but there are a few things I'd like to see fixed.
1. Todo and Addressbook - the Category menu should list the categories for selection rather than having to go to a sub-screen with the combo box ( 5 screen taps )
2. Todo - the check box on the main list should be smaller when using smaller fonts so more lines can be viewed.
3. Addressbook - tapping on the 2nd column header in the main list should sort rather than select new columns. (I keep name and company 1st and second) the last column could be left so you can pick different data.
4. Calendar - use smaller fonts for the day numbers and move to right of cell (like KO/PI) to allow 3 events displayed per day
5. Use the selected font size generally on all the entry screens and menus.
Just my 2 cents worth.
If modifying the PIM is not in scope for this release, perhaps someone can point me to the source so I can make the changes myself. (note that although I'm an old hack - 25 years programming - I've not built anything for the Z yet so it would be a while)
No, it's not in the scope because there is no source code for Sharp PIMs available...
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I don't know if the PIM functionality is in scope for Cacko 1.22, but there are a few things I'd like to see fixed.
1. Todo and Addressbook - the Category menu should list the categories for selection rather than having to go to a sub-screen with the combo box ( 5 screen taps )
2. Todo - the check box on the main list should be smaller when using smaller fonts so more lines can be viewed.
3. Addressbook - tapping on the 2nd column header in the main list should sort rather than select new columns. (I keep name and company 1st and second) the last column could be left so you can pick different data.
4. Calendar - use smaller fonts for the day numbers and move to right of cell (like KO/PI) to allow 3 events displayed per day
5. Use the selected font size generally on all the entry screens and menus.
Just my 2 cents worth.
If modifying the PIM is not in scope for this release, perhaps someone can point me to the source so I can make the changes myself. (note that although I'm an old hack - 25 years programming - I've not built anything for the Z yet so it would be a while)
No, it's not in the scope because there is no source code for Sharp PIMs available...
If there is no source for the sharp PIM how in the world did it get cleaned up so nicely?
Kudos to the soul who converted it from Japanese without source.
I remember doing the manual conversion to english when I bought my Z and also remember using the version released with TKC. The version on Cacko is sweet in comparision.
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The light applet is bugged, it turns off the screen when set to minimum.
The bug doesn't show up when using the keyboard to set the light level.
Strange, but I don't see that problem.
Ah, but i do. This has come up a few times in the forums.
The first time it happened to me, i thought i had seriously FUBARed my Z. When the brightness is set to its lowest setting, and dims after a period of inactivity, it dims completely. Then, the backlight only comes on after a long while, and goes off as soon as a keypress or screen tap is detected, only to come on again in ~30 seconds. Very annoying, because sometimes the lowest screen brightness is desired, but unusable.
I don't think this happens when it's plugged in.
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I can trigger the light off bug by setting the light to the lowest level using the applet and pressing auto-scrole in opie-reader.
I'm not sure where the bug lies, either qtopia or opie-reader but it gave me quite a shock when it happened.
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I can trigger the light off bug by setting the light to the lowest level using the applet and pressing auto-scrole in opie-reader.
I'm not sure where the bug lies, either qtopia or opie-reader but it gave me quite a shock when it happened.
Under qpe opie-reader does:
QCopEnvelope( "QPE/System", "setScreenSaverMode(int)" ) << QPEApplication::Disable; // light is even not dimmed
when you start scrolling. Maybe this has something to do with it?
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What is the status of 1.22? Has it been effected by the soon to be released 3000?
Will it be simple to make this (or 1.21) work on the 3000? Or is it a case of waiting until maslovsky can get hold of a 3000?
Cheers
Marc
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0.2.x or 0.3.x HostAP drivers, built in and configured to be used instead of the prism2/wlan drivers, and an updated wireless-tools. They're much, much better client drivers, and of course can do neat things such as acting as an AP.
Some features compiled in would be nice, such as firmware uploading (and the tools available to do this as a seperate ipk, maybe) - having this feature I'd be more than happy to document a process to upload newer firmware, and this might solve problems I've read about some people having with CF cards.
Give me a yell about this if you want.
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uczmeg,
1.22 is not being affected by the release of the C3000. This device is not being targetted at this time as no one working on Cacko has a C3000 to test. Most work is currently being done on Kino2 at the moment.
nyar,
HostAP drivers have been updated to 0.2.4 in the new ROM and the WPA supplicant is included for HostAP.
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I guess my question should really be, how long after the release of the 3000 should can we hope to see a Cacko ROM running on it?
Should we all be fund raising to get the team a 3000?
Cheers
Marc
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I can trigger the light off bug by setting the light to the lowest level using the applet and pressing auto-scrole in opie-reader.
I'm not sure where the bug lies, either qtopia or opie-reader but it gave me quite a shock when it happened.Â
Under qpe opie-reader does:
QCopEnvelope( "QPE/System", "setScreenSaverMode(int)" ) << QPEApplication::Disable; // light is even not dimmed
when you start scrolling. Maybe this has something to do with it?
Looks like that's the problem - calling setScreenSaverMode(int) qcop with brightness set to the minimum by the applet causes screen backlight to turn off completely. I will take a look into the applet, but I'm not sure I'll get to figure out the problem...
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I can trigger the light off bug by setting the light to the lowest level using the applet and pressing auto-scrole in opie-reader.
I'm not sure where the bug lies, either qtopia or opie-reader but it gave me quite a shock when it happened.Â
Under qpe opie-reader does:
QCopEnvelope( "QPE/System", "setScreenSaverMode(int)" ) << QPEApplication::Disable; // light is even not dimmed
when you start scrolling. Maybe this has something to do with it?
Looks like that's the problem - calling setScreenSaverMode(int) qcop with brightness set to the minimum by the applet causes screen backlight to turn off completely. I will take a look into the applet, but I'm not sure I'll get to figure out the problem...
I've come into this thread a little late, so if this is already known, sorry!
I got a light off bug with the Cacko ROM too.
I could make it happen by setting the brightness to a minium and then when on battery power the screen would automatically turn the light down (to off) after a short delay of inactivity. I found you could stop it automatically dimming in an option somewhere so I could leave the backlight at the lowest setting without this happening. (sorry not near my 860 to check).
Cheers
Marc
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The problem is not with reader, it's the applet that's FUBAR'ed.
Using the function key shortcuts on the keyboard works just fine, so I guess it's a problem in the brightness applet.
Because Music Player supoprts remote control and Media Player can play OGG files.
When I plug in my remote, it's Music player that shows up, but I can control Media with the remote just fine
It would be nice if your modified kino could sort the playlist by artist/album
It already does turn LCD off when lid is closed
But if you turn on the Z while the lid is closed, the backlight turns on and stays on.
Same problem with the sound: the minijack-inserted detection is pretty bad. It's irritating to miss alarms because the Z thinks there's still something in the jack-out (and directs all sound there), when I've had my headphones unplugged for a while already.
I'm going to talk to the kdepimpi maintainers to see if they can force output to the speaker.
Who do we petition to get the QPE bugfixes in? There are a few issues with KDEPIM/PI still unresolved because of QPE bugs.
edit: sent a mail to trolltech. We'll see what they have to say about it.
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I've set up my z so that I can type 'btup' and 'btdown' to bring my bluetooth connection up or down using bash aliases (for more info see my post at... https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...pic=2275&st=75) (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=2275&st=75)).
I want the globe icon to show that I'm connected once the connection is established. Also, when my connection is broken, I'd like some visual alert. Is there some way to do this from a bash script? Do I need to roll my own visual cue? Will Cacko 1.22 do this?
-Daniel
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Who do we petition to get the QPE bugfixes in? There are a few issues with KDEPIM/PI still unresolved because of QPE bugs.
edit: sent a mail to trolltech. We'll see what they have to say about it.
Why bother TrollTech with bugs in Qtopia/Sharp? It's not their product and they won't support let alone fix it. They don't even have the sources for it.
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cacko 1.2.1 is very nice, but is there anyway to give more options for the appearance? similar to the ones in oz?? expecially smaller fonts and icons, I really can't stand desktop size fonts on a pda... am i the only one ?
I'm having trouble syncing now that I just put 1.2.1 on my 860, whereas conics english nand worked perfect...
-Arden
will post more ideas after i use it for a fews days
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I prefer the larger fonts, I like to keep my eyesight :-p
For UI elements, you don't need 640x480 on a PDA of today's era, anyway; I'm happy enough to use the extra resolution for more eye candy. 640x480 becomes useful when you're using actual applications that take advantage of the display.
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I've set up my z so that I can type 'btup' and 'btdown' to bring my bluetooth connection up or down using bash aliases (for more info see my post at... https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...pic=2275&st=75) (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=2275&st=75)).
I want the globe icon to show that I'm connected once the connection is established. Also, when my connection is broken, I'd like some visual alert. Is there some way to do this from a bash script? Do I need to roll my own visual cue? Will Cacko 1.22 do this?
-Daniel
sudo -u zaurus qcop QPE/Network "up()" and sudo -u zaurus qcop QPE/Network "down()" respectively
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Thanks maslovsky!
Now Cacko 1.21b has perfect Socket Rev. G integration as far as I'm concerned
-Daniel
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One more request you might not be able to fulfill:
Could yo umodify the light/power applet to use checkboxes in front of every setting, so you can entirely turn off suspend and screen-saving (which is useless on an LCD) like you can disable the backlight dimming?
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One more request you might not be able to fulfill:
Could yo umodify the light/power applet to use checkboxes in front of every setting, so you can entirely turn off suspend and screen-saving (which is useless on an LCD) like you can disable the backlight dimming?
You probably mean Light & Power applcation in Settings tab? The answer is - no, still not source code for that app. Also, everything this app configures is controlled by Qtopia, which we don't have sources too...
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Have you ever considered using unionfs to merge /mnt/card and /mnt/cf into the root filesystem? i.e., this would make /mnt/card/usr/bin and /usr/bin both appear as /usr/bin. I don't know how practical this is, but if done right it could mean that new files generally get added to the sd card but appear as if they are on the root filesystem, without using symbolic links. This could also mean that the size of the root filesystem could be quite small.
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Hello. I'm using a USB Stick with the CFU1 USB adapter of Ratoc systems. Additional I want to use a Iomage JAZ drive with a SCSI/USB adapter. Now I found out, that a USB-SCSI support is missing. Is it a big deal to add this to the next ROM version? Or can anybody give me some information, how I can add this driver myself?
Thanks a lot for your answer ...
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2 questions about next Cacko for Maslovsky :
1°) Do we have chance for a C3000 Version ? I have one if you need infos ?
2°) Due to the lack of Cacko version for C3k, I have only passed mine in english with the mcconvert-0.1a.ipk found on Conics.net .(thanks Brett )
With tis package, I realized that the size for Handwriting applet is larger than cacko one ? Could you change applet version ? with this one ?
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Here you can find the inputmethod files for making the handwriting box bigger on cacko rom on the 860 (http://moria.ionkov.net/zaurus/c760/)
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Do we have chance for a C3000 Version ? I have one if you need infos ?
We don't need infos, we need the device
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Is it worth setting up a fund to get maslovsky a C3000? No idea how to go about that.
I'd be happy to chip some money in if it means we see Cacko on the 3000 soon.
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Do we have chance for a C3000 Version ? I have one if you need infos ?
We don't need infos, we need the device
hmmm, don't want to sell mine
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Hi Maslovsky,
I agree with uczmeg....
I'd be willing to kick in a few bucks towards getting you a SL-3000 if it would help expedite getting a version of Cacko ROM for the SL-3000.
Given how much I enjoyed using the Cacko ROM on my C860 it seems reasonable to help out and reciprocate for all that Maslovsky is doing for the Z community!
So let us know if we can PayPal you to help out Maslovsky.
Thanks and much appreciation for all your fine work!!
Mark
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Thank you guys! If anyone wants to support Cacko ROM development, feel free to donate - there is a link to PayPal at the button of the temporary Cacko homepage:
http://www.my-zaurus.narod.ru/cacko.html (http://www.my-zaurus.narod.ru/cacko.html)
But you need to realize that I cannot make any commitments - supporting ROM for Zaurii is not my job, I'm doing that in my spare time. Although I'm trying to do my best.
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Okay, there is $20 towards a C3000.
Sorry I can't pay more right now.
Cheers
Marc
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Okay, there is $20 towards a C3000.
Sorry I can't pay more right now.
Cheers
Marc
Thank you!
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Hi Maslovsky,
Well, just matched uczmeg's contribution!
So another $20 towards a SL-3000/CackoROM...
Thanks,
Mark
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Hi Maslovsky,
Well, just matched uczmeg's contribution!
So another $20 towards a SL-3000/CackoROM...
Thanks,
Mark
Thanks Mark
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how about a gui interface for cf gprs cards?? Now that would rock! dial up , recieve calls, etc... That would make sidekick2 look like a sorry excuse rip off of a z. I was told that that zaurus used to bundle cf cards and the z in hong kong with dialup software. No luck finding anything but perhaps someone with international connections can post something, please. (please)
lu
it's not a pda dude, it's a freaking geek-saber man.
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Today I got hold on Billionton Bluetooth CF card, so I could update bluetooth scripts to support it. Yes, this card will be supported in 1.22 Cacko ROM
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Packages and making everyone happy:)
I'm new here so take this with a huge grain of salt. Another project that I know of called pxes (pxes.sf.net) also has to deal with the problem of keeping the image small (since it runs from a ram disk and loads over a network) but also giving everyone all of their "must have" features. What they do is to have a configuration gui that allows the user to pick what features they want and then generates a matching image. In this case you really wouldn't even need a gui, just a bash script + a config file containing a list of packages you want to end up in the final image.
Would a system like this work for Cacko?
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Ray
No Zaurus yet, keeping an eye on Ebay and the For Sale forum for a 760/860.
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Maslovsky: OK, so I'm a little slow to adopt, but just flashed the 1.21 and Fix B onto my sacred C-860 last night and it's absolutely awesome. Thanks so much for all your hard work. Really the only thing I'd like to see on the next ROM is that my TKCVideo works properly. I've got a ton of movies on 4GB Hitachi CF disks that I carry all over the place with me to watch in airplanes, trains, blah blah blah. This thing worked perfectly with the original Sharp ROM, but is very flaky with the 1.21 Cacko. Movies won't play in KINO either. These are MPG's and are full versions of DVD's ripped, then converted to AVI's with DVD2AVI, then to MPG's with TMPGenc.
Other than that, which may not mean much to many folks, this thing is a genuine work of art. I'll be donating to the "Maslovsky Fund" as well.
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I would like to see the kernel boot without the SHARP logo screen so that we can see the cool penguin and linux boot text scroll by. Mostly for GEEK factor, and also because I like to see what my computer is doing, instead of a "blank" screen.
Just my two cents. Others may not agree.
P.S. I know it takes more than just taking out the kernel config setting. There is also a patch that has to be applied. I can find the link to it or post it if you don't have it already.
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Maslovsky: OK, so I'm a little slow to adopt, but just flashed the 1.21 and Fix B onto my sacred C-860 last night and it's absolutely awesome. Thanks so much for all your hard work. Really the only thing I'd like to see on the next ROM is that my TKCVideo works properly. I've got a ton of movies on 4GB Hitachi CF disks that I carry all over the place with me to watch in airplanes, trains, blah blah blah. This thing worked perfectly with the original Sharp ROM, but is very flaky with the 1.21 Cacko. Movies won't play in KINO either. These are MPG's and are full versions of DVD's ripped, then converted to AVI's with DVD2AVI, then to MPG's with TMPGenc.
Other than that, which may not mean much to many folks, this thing is a genuine work of art. I'll be donating to the "Maslovsky Fund" as well.
Movies should be playing very well under 1.22 using updated mplayer from atty.jp and new version of kino2.
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I would like to see the kernel boot without the SHARP logo screen so that we can see the cool penguin and linux boot text scroll by. Mostly for GEEK factor, and also because I like to see what my computer is doing, instead of a "blank" screen.
Just my two cents. Others may not agree.
P.S. I know it takes more than just taking out the kernel config setting. There is also a patch that has to be applied. I can find the link to it or post it if you don't have it already.
Only if I have some spare time There are much more important things to do, like improving performance of video playback and even more improved battery percentage display (yes, it's nearly perfect now!)
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Cool Maslovsky. It sounds like you have your priorities straight.
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- compressed elfs (uplx) binaries to save space
- a recursive grep (or something else for finding files :-))
- a reasonable gui text editor (eg. zeditor)
(ie. search & replace, access below ~/Dociments...)
- simple mp3 voice recorder
- gtar built in (i think it isnt)
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Provide a way to input euro sign?
Try Fn+5
I hate it when you do that
Okay, how in the world did ev1l's reply appear before stupkid's post? Is there a new Z wormhole adapter available?
Just edited my post, since it didn't really warrant making a new one.
See? Just did it again
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ev1|,
Try Fn+5
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Okay, how in the world did ev1l's reply appear before stupkid's post? Is there a new Z wormhole adapter available?
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/satire/
Yes, the Sharp E0B42 0/0 Transdimentional Overthruster was just released, but it is only available on Amazon from someone named bbanzi@yahoo.com who has no previous feeback as a seller.
/satire off/
(grin)
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Here's a potential one.
I got my Z used, so it was basically preloaded with Cacko. I use Opie reader a LOT, and i've never been able to get it to save settings, bookmarks, etc, which has gotten rather annoying. Is this due to it being embedded in Cacko, so that when it runs it's decompressed and hence the settings disappear when it goes away again? Maybe that's not the cause at all, but if it is, is there any way to fix that in the future.
And if not, does anyone know how to fix it?
Thanks
PS Any progress on Cacko? The natives are restless.
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Opie reader is not part of the base Cacko install. So, I'm not sure what is going on there. It sounds like it might be a permissions problem. If you can't write your settings they don't get saved.
We are very close to a release. There are still a few outstanding items that are being worked on, but I promise it will be worth it...
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Hey guys, if you could take a look at this post (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8197&st=60#) and tell me which of those you can improve on, it'd be great.
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Hey guys, if you could take a look at this post (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8197&st=60#) and tell me which of those you can improve on, it'd be great.
Too late for any major changes. Cacko ROM 1.22 is due in a few days.
Maybe in some hotfixes, maybe in 1.23, I can't tell or sure...
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Is there a site that covers this rom and stuff?
Scott
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Is there a site that covers this rom and stuff?
Scott
Yes, http://cacko.biz/cacko/ (http://cacko.biz/cacko/), all the info about the ROM will be available as soon as ROM is out...
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I would really like to see direct keys for volume changes. Like the brightness/zoom function keys but for volume level, like in some laptops. Maybe Fn+9 and Fn+0 ? It would be very useful when playing or just adjusting the volume on the fly.
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Is 1.22 ready? 12/22/04 was more than a few days ago!
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I know it's kinda late for asking this, but maybe in the next release, I would like a new GUI for Kino2, I mean a new skin for Kino, that would be amazing. The default one is lame...
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I dunno, but it seems that a skin is something almost anyone can do? Or am I incorrect about that? seems like we ask a lot of our programers. Let's try to do stuff for ourselves if possible.....just my take. see one, do one, teach one
Lareya
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I would really like to see direct keys for volume changes. Like the brightness/zoom function keys but for volume level, like in some laptops. Maybe Fn+9 and Fn+0 ? It would be very useful when playing or just adjusting the volume on the fly.
May sound like a good idea, but if you think again - you need to change sound volume while playing, and kino2 player can change volume (and mute) using keys...
I know it's kinda late for asking this, but maybe in the next release, I would like a new GUI for Kino2, I mean a new skin for Kino, that would be amazing. The default one is lame...
Personaly I don't care about the skin. In fact there is no skin in kino2 at all - I either listed to music or watch video. In both cases I don't see any skin around, do you?
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I dunno, but it seems that a skin is something almost anyone can do? Or am I incorrect about that? seems like we ask a lot of our programers. Let's try to do stuff for ourselves if possible.....just my take. see one, do one, teach one
Lareya
I know I'm asking a little too much... After seeing the TkcPlayer I feel a little bit : "Ohh... that's cool... " I mean: a skin is an extra but I would like to make one myself! I've been doing Winamp Skins for years. If only I knew how to do one for Kino I would start right now... Notice: This would be a nice plus, that's all. If it's too hard to do/takes too much time, nevermind, there's more important things to do/fix.
maslovsky: If you ever want to make a Skin for Kino, just ask, (or somebody teach me! ) I'm pretty sure people here would also like a fresh look to their main Music/Video player and will colaborate if possible.
And about the keys to change volume level: I didn't know Kino could use keys to change the volume, that's nice, but what I really meant was a "global volume key", keys which you can use while playing Snes9x or Doom or doing another tasks while Kino is playing in the background.
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Hi Maslovsky,
Happy New Year to you!
Just wondered if you have any news you can share about Cacko for the SL-C3000??
Having used Cacko before on my C860, I really miss it on my new C3000!
Thanks,
Mark
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Hi Maslovsky,
Happy New Year to you!
Just wondered if you have any news you can share about Cacko for the SL-C3000??
Having used Cacko before on my C860, I really miss it on my new C3000!
Thanks,
Mark
Unfortunately no... I've played with C3000 recentely and I liked it. But I don't have one yet, so there is no progress on Cacko ROM for C3000 yet...
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Thanks for the update, Maslovsky!
Glad you liked the C3000...hope you can get one in the near future....
Really like mine...
Mark
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Hey Anton:
Do you have an idea when you will release 1.22?
There are several things wrong on my Z with 1.21 now, which I really need to fix, several things stopped working.
However rather than doing a clean reflash and reinstall I would wait for 1.22 if it is close.
Do you have an idea when you will be releasin 1.22?
Thank you.
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We are making every effort make our goal of before the end of the year. So, hopefully by the 31st unless there is some problem.
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Wow, that's today. Great news. I'll be waiting...
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Wow, that's today. Great news. I'll be waiting...
Wait is over. Time for a grand New Year Bash, and later on a "What would you like to see in Cacko 1.23 ROM?"
Happy New Year everyone!