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Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: Murahachibu on September 08, 2004, 01:28:56 am
All,

I had such good luck with my last question that I figured I'd press my luck with a second.

I currently use ZTEN to run several different dictionaries on my Z (EDICT, EJIRO, Life Sciences, etc.).  However, I really want to get ENAMDICT (free dictionary of Japanese proper names) in there as well, but I can't get it to work with ZTEN.  You have to realize I'm a total moron when it comes to computers.  I use the Z soley for the Japanese functions.

My question:  Does anyone have a converted version of ENAMDICT that I can get up and running with ZTEN?

Thanks for all of your help!

Cheers,


Murahachibu
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: ashikase on September 08, 2004, 02:26:07 am
I don't know about Enamdict, but a recent thread (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6564) mentioned a site (Vector) where you can download a few free dictionaries which should work with zten:

Vector link (http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA037273/)

One of the dictionaries is a Japanese names dictionary, though I believe it is Japanese-language only. Still, might be worth checking out.

- ashikase
  anpachi, gifu, japan
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: Murahachibu on September 08, 2004, 03:16:05 am
Thanks!  I'll give it a shot.  All I really need is kana readings of Japanese names, so if this can do it, I don't care if it's all in Japanese.

Thanks again for the link!

- Murahachibu
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: halx on September 08, 2004, 03:29:58 am
Well, I recently converted ENAMDICT but it is about 30 MB in size (compressed, maybe some more clever indexing could help reducing size?).  I would need some web space to upload it...
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: Murahachibu on September 10, 2004, 02:34:27 am
Warning: Question by someone who knows jack about computers. Proceed at your own risk.

Question: I downloaded the "Jinmei Jiten" (Dictionary of People's Names) off of the vecor site mentioned above.  I extracted (hopefully that's the correct term here) the files (Data & Gaiji) from the .izh I downloaded using a program called EB Stuido as recommended by the readme file on the site. (See below) *Hopefully I did this correctly...

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA037273/data/readme_j.txt (http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA037273/data/readme_j.txt)

I took all of the files that were extracted (?) and put them in a folder called "PDDDic" as per the above read me file to create the same file structure. One small difference though - the Gai16f00 file does not appear in my "Gaiji" folder, but then again, none of my dictionaries have data in the "Gaiji" file.

From here, I put the PDDDic folder in a folder called "dict" on my Zaurus SD card where I keep all of my other dictionary files (EIJIRO, EDICT, etc.). I opened up Zten and added the dictionary. Zten at this point appears to be recognizing the new dictionary without a problem.

Unfortunately, after the dictionary is added, Zten fails to pull any info from it when I perform a search.  All of my other dictionaries work fine, but nothing from this one.  I even performed searches for the same items shown in the screen shots at the Vector site, but I got no search results...

What am I doing wrong?

Sorry for the long post.

- Murahachibu
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: Murahachibu on September 10, 2004, 02:37:05 am
Oops, one more thing.  Anyone have webspace where Halx can post the ENAMDICT file.  I can't be the only one who wants this on my Z.  Or maybe I am....

- Murahachbu
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: ashikase on September 10, 2004, 03:49:54 am
The people's name dictionary works fine for me.
Here is my directory structure:

Code: [Select]
/
  - catalogs
  - readme.txt
  - pdd/
    - data/
      - honmon
    - gaiji/
      - gai16f00

As for ENAMDICT... I personally have never used a names dictionary.
I find it hard enough just to remember a name, let alone it's signifigance.

- ashikase
  anpachi, gifu, japan
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: Murahachibu on September 10, 2004, 04:50:36 am
Ashikase,

What program did you use to extract the files?  Can you give me a brief run through.

BTW, the name dictionary is not really for finding the meaning of names, but rather how to read them.  Even Japanese people often have trouble reading names, and I come across lots of them in my job.  I'd rather be able to look them up myself rather than having to rely on those around me...


Murahachibu
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: ashikase on September 10, 2004, 12:07:12 pm
I extracted the files on the Z itself, using lha for Zaurus:

http://www2.gol.com/users/ikezawa/zaurus/l...0030921_arm.ipk (http://www2.gol.com/users/ikezawa/zaurus/lha_1.14i-ac20030921_arm.ipk)

I understand about the names... they can be a major pain.

- ashikase
  anpachi, gifu, japan
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: Ezekiel on September 14, 2004, 07:47:58 am
Whoa! I too would love to have enamdic. I don't have a webspace to store it in, but maybe we could do a torrent or something? Or maybe you could just dcc it to us needy folks over msn or irc?

Also, is there a possibility of you converting kanjidic to fpw format as well, halx?
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: jamesannan on September 14, 2004, 08:34:45 am
I would also be very grateful for kanjidic. I know kanji nirvana exists, but switching between 2 apps is a pain.

James
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: Murahachibu on September 14, 2004, 10:59:26 pm
If someone figures out a method for either getting this converted version of ENAMDICT online or transferred another way, please drop me a personal message.  I've been waiting for a copy of this for a loooooong time.  Thanks!

- Murahachibu
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: halx on September 15, 2004, 02:54:18 am
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Also, is there a possibility of you converting kanjidic to fpw format as well, halx?
Well, I guess the problem is that the KANJIDIC file is not that easy to parse with plain Perl.  KANJIDIC2 which is in XML format would be much easier but I haven't been using an XML parser in a while.  Finally, I don't have much time at the moment.  Sorry...

Conversion of ENAMDICT was pretty straighforward as I just had to use the script for EDICT.
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: halx on September 15, 2004, 03:08:19 am
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Well, I recently converted ENAMDICT but it is about 30 MB in size (compressed, maybe some more clever indexing could help reducing size?).  I would need some web space to upload it...
I can make it 22 MB if I don't index by Romaji...
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: halx on September 15, 2004, 05:00:26 am
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Well, I recently converted ENAMDICT but it is about 30 MB in size (compressed, maybe some more clever indexing could help reducing size?).  I would need some web space to upload it...
I can make it 22 MB if I don't index by Romaji...
And if I just index by romaji, i.e. one can search only buy romaji key, I can make it as small as 7.5 MB (compressed).
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: halx on September 17, 2004, 03:14:50 am
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Also, is there a possibility of you converting kanjidic to fpw format as well, halx?
Well, I guess the problem is that the KANJIDIC file is not that easy to parse with plain Perl.  KANJIDIC2 which is in XML format would be much easier but I haven't been using an XML parser in a while.  Finally, I don't have much time at the moment.  Sorry...

Conversion of ENAMDICT was pretty straighforward as I just had to use the script for EDICT.
Ok, I just finished a simple conversion.  As it's my first shot it might not be working correctly, though.  Download (about 1.2MB) at your own risk :-)

http://www.hloeffler.info/zaurus/ (http://www.hloeffler.info/zaurus/)
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: jamesannan on September 17, 2004, 07:04:37 am
Excellent! Thanks, that seemed to work perfectly.

James
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: Ezekiel on September 19, 2004, 10:07:45 am
Hey, that's great! Thanks a million!

Now, if only we could get that webspace for enamdic...

Without romaji is fine with me, with nothing but romaji on the other hand is pretty useless, don't you agree? Romaji shouldn't be used anyway.

What about sending it to us over msn?

Edit: If you have the time, do you think you could get kanjidic compiled without all the text encoding codes? They're kind of in the way in zten...
Title: ZTEN & ENAMDICT
Post by: Mukei on September 27, 2004, 03:14:56 pm
Hi,
I'd like to know how to get the Kojien

I have it on CD but how can I get it on my Zaurus ?

Could you please make a little tutorial or may be give me a link?

Thanks !!
need more Dictionnary I only have EDICT and Royal (French-Japanese)