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Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 08, 2004, 12:13:41 pm
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UPDATE : VERSION 1.9.5 available!
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There is still no Addressbook syncing!

New in 1.9.5:

Many bugfixes.
Better mail downloading in OM/Pi.

First experimental alpha version of sync of KO/Pi with mobile phones.
See gammu documentation for supported phones.
You need to install the package kammu_1.9.5_arm.ipk for sync of KO/Pi with mobile phones. kammu_1.9.5_arm.ipk needs libbluetooth and libsdp.
Quick hint how to use:
NOTE: MOBILE PHONE SYNC IS EXPERIMENTAL!
Install kammu_1.9.5_arm.ipk , libbluetooth and libsdp.
Create syncprofile - mobile device
Remove entry for model. (Leave empty ).
Enable infrared on Zaurus and your Phone.
Sync.
To get a more detailed log, start kopi from konsole.


Hi!

KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 for the Zaurus is available!

Download at:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...ckage_id=112604 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104103&package_id=112604)

Get more info at:
http://www.pi-sync.net (http://www.pi-sync.net)

This is the version 1.9.4 of KDE-Pim/Pi for the Zaurus.

WARNING:
PLEASE BACKUP ALL YOUR DATA!
We have changed a lot and maybe there are some unknown problems.

SYNC DATA STORAGE HAS CHANGED!
If you have synced already with version 1.9.3, you will get duplicated entries after the first sync, because the syncing of version 1.9.3 is not detected.
After another sync the behaviour should be as expected when syncing.
(This change was introduced to make it possible to sync with mobile phones, which will be available later (maybe in 4 weeks).
SOLUTION:
If you have already synced with 1.9.3, please remove duplicate entries on one of the devices before the first sync. After the first sync, you will have the same data on both devices again.
And syncing should work as usual.( I.e. no entries are duplicated ).

You need the kmicrokdelibs_1.9.4_arm.ipk as a base for the other programs.
If you get the error: "Install only possible in main memory", just try it again to install it on SD card. That worked for me. And it was reported that rebooting Qtopia did help in this case as well.

As programs are available:
KO/Pi (korganizer ipk) - a calendar program.
KA/Pi (kaddressbook ipk ) - an addressbook
OM/Pi (kopiemail ipk ) an email program with pop/smtp and IMAP support.

An alarm notification program ( korganizer-alarm ipk ) for KO/Pi that notifies you about alarms, even if the Zaurus is in suspend mode.
(If you do not see an icon in the taskbar after installing korganizer-alarm, please restart Qtopia)

All the applications are installed in a "Pim" TAB.
If this TAB is new on your system, you can get an icon in this TAB by installing pim_TAB_icon_1.9.4_arm.ipk


All the application are integrated.
Such that you can choose in KO/Pi the attendees of a  meeting from the addresses in KA/Pi. When you click in KA/Pi on the email address, OM/Pi is started to write the mail.

HINT:
If you install KPhone/Pi 0.9.7, it will be called, if you click in KA/Pi on a phone number.



What's new?

SYNC HANDLING HAS CHANGED!
If you have synced already with version 1.9.3, you will get duplicated entries after the first sync, because the syncing of version 1.9.3 is not detected.
After another sync the behaviour should be as expected when syncing.
(This change was introduced to make it possible to sync with mobile phones, which will be available later (maybe in 4 weeks).
SOLUTION:
If you have already synced with 1.9.3, please remove duplicate entries on one of the devices before the first sync. After the first sync, you will have the same data on both devices again.
And syncing should work as usual.( I.e. no entries are duplicated ).

New in OM/Pi:
When copying(i.e. downloading mails) , you can specify, that only mails of a given size should be downloaded. Added mail copy possibility for selected mails.

New in KO/Pi:
French is now available for KO/Pi.
Choose menu:Actions - Configure:TAB locale
Quick filter access now available via the menu.
Syncing has changed.
Phone sync available soon.
Not much changes, I cannot remember them ...

New in KA/Pi:
Beaming possible.
Sharp DTM readonly access possible( create a new DTM resource );
Better searching possible.
Search is performed only after pressing the return key.
Use wildcard * to specify parts of a name.

Better name/email selection dialog (called from KO/Pi or OM/Pi). In this dialog, now searching is possible. Like in KA/Pi, use return key and wildcard * .

A big improvement is the new management of the contact access.
In version 1.9.3, every application was using their own addressbook access data.
That means, the addressbook was loaded up to three times in the memory, when accessed by  KA/Pi, KO/Pi and OM/Pi.
That was wasting of memory, if you had several hundreds of contacts.

Now only KA/Pi accesses the addressbook.
If KO/Pi or OM/Pi want to get some name/email data, they request KA/Pi to open the  name/email selection dialog and send it back to them.
If you click on an attendee in a meeting, its contact data is displayed in KA/Pi directly.
That means, if KO/Pi or OM/Pi want to access contact data, KA/Pi is started first.

New in the KO/Pi alarm applet:
Configure your own timer popup menu!
(Text and minutes for timer countdown)
Just edit the file
(yourhomedir)/.kopialarmtimerrc
and start/stop a timer to get a new menu with the data of this file.



Please test and report bugs.
In the next version, there will be syncing in KA/Pi and syncing with mobile phones in KO/Pi and KA/Pi.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Cyril92 on September 08, 2004, 12:44:38 pm
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In the next version, there will be syncing in KA/Pi and syncing with mobile phones in KO/Pi and KA/Pi.
Trying this version and waiting   for next one
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Zuber on September 08, 2004, 04:17:04 pm
Guess I was a bit late getting the bug/feature requests in  

Trying it now...
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Zuber on September 08, 2004, 05:39:55 pm
Looking good.

quick feedback bugs/suggestions...

1. mail app does not seam to fire up.

Run from prompt gives cannot load libssl 0.9.7b
Got and installed from killefiz (700k) then started fine.

2. Addressbook search.

Better now as it highlights all matching entries. But only in Table View, not Card View.

But even in Table view, still no way of going through them other than scroll bar and select.

Why not just take the final step and instead of just highlighting, remove all except matching entries ?

3. AddressBook Full view

Would be nice to have a full screen view.
Currently you get list as icons, table etc. and split view. Double Tap gives Edit.
Single/Double Tap Full screen view (read not edit) same as Right side split view with edit option would be nice.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 08, 2004, 06:07:28 pm
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Looking good.

quick feedback bugs/suggestions...

1. mail app does not seam to fire up.

Run from prompt gives cannot load libssl 0.9.7b
Got and installed from killefiz (700k) then started fine.
Yes, indeed, I forgot to mention this!
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2. Addressbook search.

Better now as it highlights all matching entries. But only in Table View, not Card View.

But even in Table view, still no way of going through them other than scroll bar and select.

Why not just take the final step and instead of just highlighting, remove all except matching entries ?
I agree, that would make more sense.
I have to test it, how fast it would be with many items.
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3. AddressBook Full view

Would be nice to have a full screen view.
Currently you get list as icons, table etc. and split view. Double Tap gives Edit.
Single/Double Tap Full screen view (read not edit) same as Right side split view with edit option would be nice.
That is already implemeted.
Single/Double Tap Full screen view:
Can be configured "display List and details at one"
But That config switch seeems no to be working on the 760. Have to look at this.

Right side split view with edit option:
Menu:
Settings - Show extension bar- contact editor

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: ulf1 on September 08, 2004, 06:07:53 pm
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3. AddressBook Full view

Would be nice to have a full screen view.
Currently you get list as icons, table etc. and split view. Double Tap gives Edit.
Single/Double Tap Full screen view (read not edit) same as Right side split view with edit option would be nice.

Hello Zuber,

try the feature I have implemented for using Ka/Pi on my Z 5500 because the screen is too small for both, table and detail view.
Disable "Display List and Details at once" in the configuration and restart Ka/Pi.
Then you have the feature you want.

Or did I understand something wrong?


~Ulf
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: acpkendo on September 08, 2004, 06:20:53 pm
I get the error, when installing kmicrokdelibs:

"This package seems to depend on other packages- please install them too."

I'm on a stock Sharp 3.13 ROM.  Nonetheless, everything seems to install and launch alright. . . (after installing libssl, per Zuber's post).
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: PsionX on September 08, 2004, 06:25:19 pm
Uninstall Crash... I've removed 1.93 version and now i have ipkg error (Gui and command line). I do a "ipkg update"... Nothing ToDo ??  I don't want to reinstall my Cacko 1.21B with all my changes (Icons, ...)
When, i clean /usr/lib/ipkg/status , remove "Package: error / Status: install or not-installed", i can launch ipkg in command line as root... with this message :
cd /mnt/cf/KO\ 1.94/
su
ipkg install korganiser_1.9.48arm.ipk
Unpacking... Configuring... cd: can't cd to /usr/mnt.rom/cf/KO
Done
no binaries or files installed ;(
Please.. help me
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Hrw on September 08, 2004, 06:31:32 pm
Version in OpenEmbedded updated to 1.9.4 but only KOrganizer/PI, KAdressbook/PI and alarm applet are builded. Rest depends on modified 3rdparty libraries which we have in original versions and we don't want to feature modified versions of those libraries.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Zuber on September 08, 2004, 06:50:27 pm
Hi Ulf1,

Using C860.

I was not very clear about edit function. Played with options you mentioned, but for some reason, they don't seam to change on mine. I untick exit restart and they are still ticked. Perhaps I need to reinstall...

Anyway, just to clarify. I was thinking that operation like that on KO would be nice.

In Month View, I see an appointment.
I double tap on it, it goes to full screen with option of edit or close (Also Agenda, but that does not make sense here).

The content of the full screen would be much the same as in the split view screen.

So user would :

Tap to select

OR

Double Tap to see Full Screen only (with button option to then edit)

OR

Tap to select then use Icon to edit.


Maybe config options for Tap, Double Tap, Tap and Hold etc.


RE: Only showing valid entries on search.

Speed is important of course. I just assumed most of the performance hit would have been in the actual search and highlight. Hence not much left to do in cutting number of items listed.

That was my logic anyway...

I think I'll be just about ready for total switch from outlook soon. Just worried about loosing some data from unmapped fields. I've put in a couple of ideas into sourceforge for this...

Time for bed here (UK).

Thanks again to you and Zautrix for your efforts.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: ulf1 on September 08, 2004, 08:03:05 pm
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Perhaps I need to reinstall...

which version are you using?  1.9.4?
I tried it at th emoment at it seems to work.


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The content of the full screen would be much the same as in the split view screen.

So user would :

Tap to select

OR

Double Tap to see Full Screen only (with button option to then edit)

OR

Tap to select then use Icon to edit.

This exactly what "Display List and Details at once" is for. If you disable this setting,

you
-tap to select contact in tableview,
-double tap to switch to detailview
-press icon to go back to tableview
-or press icon to edit contact

~Ulf
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: PsionX on September 09, 2004, 02:08:36 am
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...
When, i clean /usr/lib/ipkg/status , remove "Package: error / Status: install or not-installed", i can launch ipkg in command line as root... with this message :
cd /mnt/cf/KO\ 1.94/
su
ipkg install korganiser_1.9.48arm.ipk...
Problem solved  

But when i select a contact in KOPi with KAPi import and do "OK", it doesn't appear  in "Participants" (French) view. No problem with the "New" select button.
KAPi ans KOPi work in "Fast Load"
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Zuber on September 09, 2004, 05:06:29 am
Hi Ulf,

Yes, using latest version. For some reason the config options are refusing to change.
That is you change them, exit program and restart, but they are still the same.

Sounds like it is supposed to work already, so will do an uninstall and clean up files that may be causing problems and then install again.

Thanks.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 09, 2004, 05:12:55 am
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Hi Ulf,

Yes, using latest version. For some reason the config options are refusing to change.
That is you change them, exit program and restart, but they are still the same.

Sounds like it is supposed to work already, so will do an uninstall and clean up files that may be causing problems and then install again.

Thanks.
Zuber,

I have the same behaviour on my 760!

Such that the behaviour is a bug.

I will try to fix this.

Reinstalling will not solve your problem.

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 09, 2004, 05:14:39 am
Quote
Quote
...
When, i clean /usr/lib/ipkg/status , remove "Package: error / Status: install or not-installed", i can launch ipkg in command line as root... with this message :
cd /mnt/cf/KO\ 1.94/
su
ipkg install korganiser_1.9.48arm.ipk...
Problem solved  

But when i select a contact in KOPi with KAPi import and do "OK", it doesn't appear  in "Participants" (French) view. No problem with the "New" select button.
KAPi ans KOPi work in "Fast Load"
It sounds, that you did not install the microkdelibs package correctly.
The application interprocess communication seems not to work for you.


z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 09, 2004, 05:19:07 am
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I get the error, when installing kmicrokdelibs:

"This package seems to depend on other packages- please install them too."

I'm on a stock Sharp 3.13 ROM.  Nonetheless, everything seems to install and launch alright. . . (after installing libssl, per Zuber's post).
That is actually not an error - that's simply true!

You will find the explanation  in KO/Pi menu: Help - What's new:


If you get a
"This application depends on other programs"
during installation of
--kmicrokdelibs_1.9.2_arm.ipk
you probably do not have to care about that.
kmicrokdelibs_1.9.2 will come with some
resource plugins, which needs additional libraries.
(E.g. libopie1, if you want to use the
opie resource connector in KA/Pi).
If you do not have this libraries installed,
you simply cannot use the resource.
To make it clear:
If the libraries are missing, the applications
using kmicrokdelibs will start,
because the resources are plugins.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: vdkuil on September 09, 2004, 05:31:52 am
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SYNC HANDLING HAS CHANGED! Such that, if you sync now with an already synded device, you will duplicated entries after the first sync.


This sounds a bit scary to me. Does this mean when I sync to my laptop twice a have 2 squash appointments on the same time? I don't think I am that much into sports...
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: mikew on September 09, 2004, 06:00:49 am
Been using KO/PI & KO/PA since they came out, now using version 1.9.3 as it's the best PIM software available for the Zaurus.

Looks as if I will have to stop using KDE-Pim if it is going to duplicate entries, pity.

Mike
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 09, 2004, 06:05:59 am
Quote
Quote
SYNC HANDLING HAS CHANGED! Such that, if you sync now with an already synded device, you will duplicated entries after the first sync.


This sounds a bit scary to me. Does this mean when I sync to my laptop twice a have 2 squash appointments on the same time? I don't think I am that much into sports...
Sorry, my words may be confusing.
I have changed the text:

SYNC DATA STORAGE HAS CHANGED!
If you have synced already with version 1.9.3, you will get duplicated entries after the first sync, because the syncing of version 1.9.3 is not detected.
After another sync the behaviour should be as expected when syncing.
SOLUTION:
If you have already synced with 1.9.3, please remove duplicate entries on one of the devices before the first sync. After the first sync, you will have the same data on both devices again.
And syncing should work as usual.( I.e. no entries are duplicated ).

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 09, 2004, 06:08:00 am
Quote
Been using KO/PI & KO/PA since they came out, now using version 1.9.3 as it's the best PIM software available for the Zaurus.

Looks as if I will have to stop using KDE-Pim if it is going to duplicate entries, pity.

Mike
I wrote not, that you get duplicated entries!

I wrote, that you get duplicated entries AFTER THE FIRST SYNC, if you have already synced.

I have changed the text:


SYNC DATA STORAGE HAS CHANGED!
If you have synced already with version 1.9.3, you will get duplicated entries after the first sync, because the syncing of version 1.9.3 is not detected.
After another sync the behaviour should be as expected when syncing.
SOLUTION:
If you have already synced with 1.9.3, please remove duplicate entries on one of the devices before the first sync. After the first sync, you will have the same data on both devices again.
And syncing should work as usual.( I.e. no entries are duplicated ).
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: vdkuil on September 09, 2004, 06:31:11 am
Thanks Zautrix for the quick reply.

Your software makes my zaurus usable for the first time in years!.. (I own a 5000D version).

Thanks a lot and keep up the good work
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Zuber on September 09, 2004, 07:10:20 am
Thanks Zautrix,

Saved me spending half an hour trying...
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: steliosx on September 09, 2004, 07:17:27 am
zautrix, I think I will kiss you!



 
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: jesizmi on September 10, 2004, 04:17:45 am
Hi zautrix,
you asked for testing and results.
Well, here are some, about the best Pim-apps available.
KO/PI:
start-up seems to be a bit slow, compared to its predecessors, nothing to complain besides that.
KA/PI
now and than a popup appears
Quote
Question
File resource '/home/zaurus/kdepim/apps/kabc/std.vcf '
has been changed by third party.
Do you want to reload?
[Yes]     [No]

it reappears/blinks/flickers and won't let me enter my choice for several tries.
I couldn't figure out yet, which circumstances lead to this behaviour. I know, that it appears, when you touch the file but then it just asks once and disappears peacefully after accepting my answer.
The above now happened three times, since i installed v. 1.9.4

another small complaint is, that the search field keeps it's contents even after an entry is picked so you have to clear it deliberately for another search.

Ii think it would add a lot of usability if you could use the arrow-buttons to browse the resultset of a search.

and finally, the menue-button doesn't work.

OM/PI
works great so far, i just miss a button/menu-item to expicitly fetch mail from a specified account.
It seems as if OM/PI allways looks for all accounts for every piece of mail within reach.

These are my first impressions and though it reads as though i'm complaining a lot,  it's not!
I really like these apps and use them a lot. Thanks to your effords, the Z can beat  most PDA even in the PIM disciplins.

j.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 10, 2004, 04:46:57 am
Quote
Thanks Zautrix,

Saved me spending half an hour trying...
Thank you, Zuber, for your help!

I have already fixed the search for all views: Now only matching items are displayed in the view.
That make ist actually really useable!

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 10, 2004, 04:55:27 am
Quote
Hi zautrix,
you asked for testing and results.
Well, here are some, about the best Pim-apps available.
KO/PI:
start-up seems to be a bit slow, compared to its predecessors, nothing to complain besides that.
KA/PI
now and than a popup appears
Quote
Question
File resource '/home/zaurus/kdepim/apps/kabc/std.vcf '
has been changed by third party.
Do you want to reload?
[Yes]     [No]

it reappears/blinks/flickers and won't let me enter my choice for several tries.
I couldn't figure out yet, which circumstances lead to this behaviour. I know, that it appears, when you touch the file but then it just asks once and disappears peacefully after accepting my answer.
The above now happened three times, since i installed v. 1.9.4
That's strange.
I will look at this.

Quote
another small complaint is, that the search field keeps it's contents even after an entry is picked so you have to clear it deliberately for another search.

Ii think it would add a lot of usability if you could use the arrow-buttons to browse the resultset of a search.
I have already changed the search for all three kinds of views.
Now only matching items are displayed in the view.
That makes it much more useable.

Quote
and finally, the menue-button doesn't work.
What menue button?
Quote
OM/PI
works great so far, i just miss a button/menu-item to expicitly fetch mail from a specified account.
It seems as if OM/PI allways looks for all accounts for every piece of mail within reach.
I agree, the usage of OM/Pi is a bit strange.
I have to think about a useful solution.
Quote
These are my first impressions and though it reads as though i'm complaining a lot,  it's not!
I really like these apps and use them a lot. Thanks to your effords, the Z can beat  most PDA even in the PIM disciplins.

j.

Thank you for your comments!
Such comments are needed to make the apps more userfriendly and bugfree.

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: jesizmi on September 10, 2004, 05:21:44 am
Quote
What menue button?
I meant the hardware-button next to OK on the C7xx device, which normally invokes the menu in every app that has one (works with KO/PI)

j.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: jesizmi on September 10, 2004, 05:32:38 am
i just realized, that the menu-button-thing applies to OM/PI too.

Oh, and another thing, i actually had allready with v.1.9.3.
The file menu is so touchy, i have to use mac-style to pick the right entry.

j.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: iamasmith on September 10, 2004, 05:43:35 am
To correct the phrase 'Build it and they will come'....

      'Post the ScreenShots and they will download'

...come on... it's obligatory and there's only one on the site at the moment.

- Andy
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 10, 2004, 06:10:53 am
Quote
To correct the phrase 'Build it and they will come'....

      'Post the ScreenShots and they will download'

...come on... it's obligatory and there's only one on the site at the moment.

- Andy
*LOL*

Counting is difficult, isn't it?
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Zuber on September 10, 2004, 06:43:03 am
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Now only matching items are displayed in the view.

Perfect  

Not had a chance yet, but will have a good play with the notes field import later and post back on sourceforge...

I reckon if you can get the Notes field to import with multiple fields from Outlook nicely, then that would allow many more people to depart from outlook without fear of loosing some data.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: iamasmith on September 10, 2004, 06:51:52 am
Quote
Quote
To correct the phrase 'Build it and they will come'....

      'Post the ScreenShots and they will download'

...come on... it's obligatory and there's only one on the site at the moment.

- Andy
*LOL*

Counting is difficult, isn't it?
DOH!

OK, Two!

How about a Ka/PI screenshot ? - I think since this is the other major PIM app that people are interested in then it's probably useful.

Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: ulf1 on September 10, 2004, 12:36:05 pm
Quote
Question
File resource '/home/zaurus/kdepim/apps/kabc/std.vcf '
has been changed by third party.
Do you want to reload?
[Yes]     [No]


Usually this box pops only up if you use the same physical addressbook file as source for multiple ka/pi resources.

~Ulf
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: vdkuil on September 11, 2004, 03:39:31 am
Hi,

I;ve just tried it and I have a couple of things I'd like to add.

Searching addressbook "All fields" used to include the role of a user. In the new release it did not find a relult when I search for a role.
Searching has to be confirmed by pressing return. I found it really nice that it filtered my output on every keypress (so I notice typo's very early, I have a 5000D so a very small keyboard  )

I saw a collegue of mine syncing his addressbook using the syncrhonize functionality in ko/pi. So after setting the addressbook sync info I wanted to try the same on my zaurus. So far no luck. I tried starting ko/pi from the konsole and found no error/debug messages regarding syncing addressbook. Am I missing something here?

Further more I noticed that closing the synchronize settings dialog causes a lot of segfaults (on my zaurus and on the one of my collegue). I did not have this problem with the 1.9.3 release.

Futher more I like where it is going. As said before.... It's the first time in years I can actually use my zaurus

Thanks for all the work...
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: rotman on September 11, 2004, 06:38:41 am
Quote
I saw a collegue of mine syncing his addressbook using the syncrhonize functionality in ko/pi. So after setting the addressbook sync info I wanted to try the same on my zaurus. So far no luck. I tried starting ko/pi from the konsole and found no error/debug messages regarding syncing addressbook. Am I missing something here?
Hi,

Let me add that (since I'm the colleague in question ).
It seems that the addressbook is synced only if I enable "Include in multiple addressbook sync".

This is somewhat anoying, since I want to sync both at work and at home, but not at the same time. So if I want to sync the addressbook I have to change the synchronize settings, which wil result in the korganizer crash vdkuil also talked about.

For the rest I love kdepim stuff for Z. Good pim stuff makes it hard to forget appointments, and kdepim definitely qualifies as very good pim stuff!

Keep up the good work!
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 11, 2004, 07:24:55 am
Quote
Quote
I saw a collegue of mine syncing his addressbook using the syncrhonize functionality in ko/pi. So after setting the addressbook sync info I wanted to try the same on my zaurus. So far no luck. I tried starting ko/pi from the konsole and found no error/debug messages regarding syncing addressbook. Am I missing something here?
Hi,

Let me add that (since I'm the colleague in question ).
It seems that the addressbook is synced only if I enable "Include in multiple addressbook sync".

This is somewhat anoying, since I want to sync both at work and at home, but not at the same time. So if I want to sync the addressbook I have to change the synchronize settings, which wil result in the korganizer crash vdkuil also talked about.

For the rest I love kdepim stuff for Z. Good pim stuff makes it hard to forget appointments, and kdepim definitely qualifies as very good pim stuff!

Keep up the good work!
Sorry for the confusion,

but there is no Addressbook syncing at all!

It is not implemented, only the sync settings are there.

After fixing the reported bugs, I will start working on the addressbook syncing.

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 11, 2004, 07:27:11 am
Quote
Hi,

I;ve just tried it and I have a couple of things I'd like to add.

Searching addressbook "All fields" used to include the role of a user. In the new release it did not find a relult when I search for a role.
Searching has to be confirmed by pressing return. I found it really nice that it filtered my output on every keypress (so I notice typo's very early, I have a 5000D so a very small keyboard  )

I saw a collegue of mine syncing his addressbook using the syncrhonize functionality in ko/pi. So after setting the addressbook sync info I wanted to try the same on my zaurus. So far no luck. I tried starting ko/pi from the konsole and found no error/debug messages regarding syncing addressbook. Am I missing something here?

Further more I noticed that closing the synchronize settings dialog causes a lot of segfaults (on my zaurus and on the one of my collegue). I did not have this problem with the 1.9.3 release.

Futher more I like where it is going. As said before.... It's the first time in years I can actually use my zaurus

Thanks for all the work...
Thanks for the bug report!

I think, the best solution is, to make searching on return or on every keystroke configurable.


As I wrote as an answer to the other posting:
There is no addressbook syncing available!

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: rotman on September 11, 2004, 10:55:07 am
Quote
Quote
Quote
I saw a collegue of mine syncing his addressbook using the syncrhonize functionality in ko/pi. So after setting the addressbook sync info I wanted to try the same on my zaurus. So far no luck. I tried starting ko/pi from the konsole and found no error/debug messages regarding syncing addressbook. Am I missing something here?
Hi,

Let me add that (since I'm the colleague in question ).
It seems that the addressbook is synced only if I enable "Include in multiple addressbook sync".

This is somewhat anoying, since I want to sync both at work and at home, but not at the same time. So if I want to sync the addressbook I have to change the synchronize settings, which wil result in the korganizer crash vdkuil also talked about.

For the rest I love kdepim stuff for Z. Good pim stuff makes it hard to forget appointments, and kdepim definitely qualifies as very good pim stuff!

Keep up the good work!
Sorry for the confusion,

but there is no Addressbook syncing at all!

It is not implemented, only the sync settings are there.

After fixing the reported bugs, I will start working on the addressbook syncing.

z.
hmm.. I was pretty sure I saw some entries in the Z addressbook that where not there before.
I guess my addressbook must have been more complete than I thought...

Thanks for clearing this out.. I'm looking forward to the addressbook sync functionality!
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: DaveAnderson on September 11, 2004, 12:15:20 pm
I installed 1.9.4 today - first time install on a Cacko ROM w/C860.  KO/PI and OM/PI start fine from the menu.  KA/PI won't start from the menu - it just hangs there with the little graphic that appears when you click to start something.  I *can* start KA/PI from the command prompt - no problems.  I also tried creating a new mail in OM/PI and then clicking on the 'To' button, which I assume would call KA/PI, but nothing happens.

Any ideas?

Thanks.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: vdkuil on September 11, 2004, 05:03:38 pm
Quote
zautrix
Thanks for the bug report!

I think, the best solution is, to make searching on return or on every keystroke configurable.
That would be really  nice

Thank you for explaining the addressbook sync stuff..  It must have been a "vision" of the new version  

Can't wait to try a next release...

Keep up the good work!
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: kuijer001 on September 12, 2004, 06:51:56 am
I installed KoPi on my C700 and got a reply "This package seems to depend on other packages- please install them too." KoPi won't start. When I tap the button I get an exploding Icon like KoPi is starting, but nothing happens. Same problem with KaPi. I'm using the latest Version of Cacko's ROM. What am I doing wrong here?
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 12, 2004, 09:51:47 am
Quote
I installed KoPi on my C700 and got a reply "This package seems to depend on other packages- please install them too." KoPi won't start. When I tap the button I get an exploding Icon like KoPi is starting, but nothing happens. Same problem with KaPi. I'm using the latest Version of Cacko's ROM. What am I doing wrong here?
In the first posting, you will find:

You need the kmicrokdelibs_1.9.4_arm.ipk as a base for the other programs.

Did you install it?

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 12, 2004, 06:44:26 pm
****************************************************
UPDATE : VERSION 1.9.5 available!
****************************************************

There is still no Addressbook syncing!

New in 1.9.5:

Many bugfixes.
Better mail downloading in OM/Pi.

First experimental alpha version of sync of KO/Pi with mobile phones.
See gammu documentation for supported phones.
You need to install the package kammu_1.9.5_arm.ipk for sync of KO/Pi with mobile phones. kammu_1.9.5_arm.ipk needs libbluetooth and libsdp.
Quick hint how to use:
NOTE: MOBILE PHONE SYNC IS EXPERIMENTAL!
Install kammu_1.9.5_arm.ipk , libbluetooth and libsdp.
Create syncprofile - mobile device
Remove entry for model. (Leave empty ).
Enable infrared on Zaurus and your Phone.
Sync.
To get a more detailed log, start kopi from konsole.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: kuijer001 on September 13, 2004, 04:50:54 am
Quote
Quote
I installed KoPi on my C700 and got a reply "This package seems to depend on other packages- please install them too." KoPi won't start. When I tap the button I get an exploding Icon like KoPi is starting, but nothing happens. Same problem with KaPi. I'm using the latest Version of Cacko's ROM. What am I doing wrong here?
In the first posting, you will find:

You need the kmicrokdelibs_1.9.4_arm.ipk as a base for the other programs.

Did you install it?

z.
Hi Zautrix

yes I tried to install it first, but I get the response "IPKG says something went wrong" or something like that, and then closes
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Zuber on September 13, 2004, 06:53:52 am
Just had a play with 1.9.5 KAddressbook...

Excellent.

Still does not seam to want to save config. settings, so editing the file by hand instead for now and that works fine.

Searching is excellent. Could not ask for more.

I have a fairly small address book (100 or so entries), so like having the option of searching immediately. Nice and quick, wildcards works well...

The search on return should work well for those with large addressbooks.

All I need now is the ability to import multi line fields and multiple fields to single Notes fields (See suggestions in sourceforge). That would take care of the extra fields in Outlook

Likely to happen at some point. Or don't like the idea ?
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: holck on September 13, 2004, 07:05:31 am
Looks very nice. Is there a way to import my TKCaddressbook? I've tried "Import Qtopia", but nothing happens. "Import Opie" shows my addressbook (/home/Zaurus/Applications/addressbook/addressbook.xml) but again nothing happens when I try to import it.

More info:

Starting kapi from the console gives the following error messages:

KActionCollection::setWidget: warning: Kaccel is never used in microkde
Xconfig: could not open file /home/root/kdepim/config/kkdepimrc
Xconfig: could not open file /home/root/kdepim/config/kaddressrc
QGList::locate: Index -1 out of range
QGList::locate: Index 1 out of range

And when I try to "Import Qtopia", the following errors appear:

QLibrary open failed!: /home/QTPalmtop/lib/libmicrokabc_qtopia.so, libqpepim.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory  (this message appears 3 times)
KLibrary: The library microkabc_qtopia does not offer an init_microkabc_qtopia function
KRES::factory::resource(): Factory creation failed for library microkabc_qtopia

The package kmicrokdelibs version 1.9.4 is installed


/Jesper
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 13, 2004, 07:47:36 am
Quote
Just had a play with 1.9.5 KAddressbook...

Excellent.

Still does not seam to want to save config. settings, so editing the file by hand instead for now and that works fine.
That's strange.
It works for me ...
Quote
Searching is excellent. Could not ask for more.

I have a fairly small address book (100 or so entries), so like having the option of searching immediately. Nice and quick, wildcards works well...

The search on return should work well for those with large addressbooks.

All I need now is the ability to import multi line fields and multiple fields to single Notes fields (See suggestions in sourceforge). That would take care of the extra fields in Outlook

Likely to happen at some point. Or don't like the idea ?

Yes, I think that would be really useful!

Currently, you can import data directly with the Windows version of KA/Pi from Outlook via OLE.
It imports all addresses and all phone numbers amd more or less all the other data that can mapped to KA/Pi fields.

http://www.pi-sync.net/html/migration_howto.html (http://www.pi-sync.net/html/migration_howto.html)

I will add there the feature, that additonal Outlook fields are added to the Notes field to make the data migraton more complete.

Later I will look at the import  csv feature.
But that has not a high priority for me.

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: DaveAnderson on September 13, 2004, 09:12:06 am
Quote
I installed 1.9.4 today - first time install on a Cacko ROM w/C860.  KO/PI and OM/PI start fine from the menu.  KA/PI won't start from the menu - it just hangs there with the little graphic that appears when you click to start something.  I *can* start KA/PI from the command prompt - no problems.  I also tried creating a new mail in OM/PI and then clicking on the 'To' button, which I assume would call KA/PI, but nothing happens.

Any ideas?

Thanks.
Fixed this by rebooting...
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 13, 2004, 02:42:18 pm
WARNING:

Syncing with SharpDTM is broken in 1.9.5.

I will fix this ASAP!

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 14, 2004, 04:32:21 am
Quote
WARNING:

Syncing with SharpDTM is broken in 1.9.5.

I will fix this ASAP!

z.
Ok, this is fixed now in version 1.9.5a.

It should work even better than before, because I have fixed an old  problem when writing back the data to DTM.

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: jesizmi on September 14, 2004, 09:53:47 am
i've just installed the 1.9.5(a) suite.
Kopi seems to run smooth as usual. A fine improvement would be the ability to send single appointments not only by ir, but by mail(ics) as well.

With Kapi i've got a minor problem: i found the toggle for "search only after...", i unchecked it and pressed OK. No matter what action follows (i.g. quit the program, add an item...) the setting is lost! When i return to settings, the box is checked.
I run Kapi as root and the config files are set to 777, so can't see any reason for this.
The selection is fine, though personally i'd prefer, that the search field is cleared after an entry is picked(Display or edit)

Ompi has become better, especially the "get mail" feature is an improvement, still something seems to be odd with the display of html-coded mail, the time it takes to show the body can be considered a time of delivery rather than time of response. Still it has the potencial to become my favorite mail client, owing to the integration with kopi and kapi.

great work!
j.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: acpkendo on September 14, 2004, 10:51:23 am
Quote
That is actually not an error - that's simply true!
OK- as I said, they all installed cleanly, and after having played with all three for some time now, I can say that they're all working perfectly (as far as I can tell).

All in all, these are very nice.  Please keep up the hard work zautrix (and ulf too). . .
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: ulf1 on September 14, 2004, 12:49:41 pm
Quote
With Kapi i've got a minor problem: i found the toggle for "search only after...", i unchecked it and pressed OK. No matter what action follows (i.g. quit the program, add an item...) the setting is lost! When i return to settings, the box is checked.
Hello Jesizmi,

we heard from others as well that storing the configuration does not work correctly.

Can you try the following in the following order:

1) start kapi
2) change the "search only after..." configuration and then close the config dialog
3) modify any address and then close kapi
4) restart kapi and check the "search only after..." setting

Did it it change?

thanks,
Ulf
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: kkkkkk on September 14, 2004, 02:33:49 pm
Sorry,
I can't find any option in Ka/pi to Sync with Sharp-DTM,
Can anybody teach me how to do that?
Thanks a lot
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: kkkkkk on September 14, 2004, 02:37:30 pm
Another problem is,
It seems that I can't save the settings of the syncprofile of the resource setting in KA/PI,
Everytime I restart the Ka/Pi that is requested by itself,the setting of the syncprofile isn't different from before.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 14, 2004, 02:53:16 pm
You will find in the topmost posting:


****************************************************
UPDATE : VERSION 1.9.5 available!
****************************************************

There is still no Addressbook syncing!
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: jesizmi on September 14, 2004, 03:41:47 pm
Hi Ulf,
Quote
Can you try the following in the following order:

yes i did it exactly, but

Quote
Did it it change?
No

I figured out, that changes in the config settings don't even survive exiting the settings dialog. It's not only the search mode but any other setting as well. Obviously, changes aren't even in memory, not to mention saved.

Reinstall and reboot didn't bring any impovement, so finally i edited the config file manually - that did the trick. But somehow, i believe, that there has to be a more convenient way to save settings  

Doesn't matter too much, i'm still fond of kdepim/pi. So once again, thanks for your effords.

j.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: PsionX on September 14, 2004, 06:35:41 pm
Hello,  what it is Kammu...  There is no GUI.... difficult to wait
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: vdkuil on September 15, 2004, 02:59:56 am
Hi,

About configuration settings saving in ka/pi. I noticed it only is saving the changes when pressing the OK button in the lower left of the screen.
So NOT the one in the top right that is part of the windowing system.

Please verify so that zautrix is able to fix this...

Everything else seems ok.. except maybe a small translation error?
In ka/pi it says emport (instead of export?).

Thanks for this new version though!

-Roy


edited:... of course the button is on the lower left on the screen  duh...
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: jesizmi on September 15, 2004, 03:21:58 am
Quote
About configuration settings saving in ka/pi. I noticed it only is saving the changes when pressing the OK button in the lower right of the screen.
So NOT the one in the top right that is part of the windowing system.
Confirmed.  The hw-OK-button doesn't work either. But still it's the lower left  .

I didn't even notice befor, those buttons existed, since i run kapi in landscape mode and thus they aren't visible nor reachable by scrolling.
Maybe another fixworthy point?

j.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 15, 2004, 03:26:45 am
Quote
Hi,

About configuration settings saving in ka/pi. I noticed it only is saving the changes when pressing the OK button in the lower right of the screen.
So NOT the one in the top right that is part of the windowing system.

Please verify so that zautrix is able to fix this...

Everything else seems ok.. except maybe a small translation error?
In ka/pi it says emport (instead of export?).

Thanks for this new version though!

-Roy
Ah!

That was the problem.

Fixed both - thx for your help!

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: holck on September 15, 2004, 05:35:13 am
Quote
QLibrary open failed!: /home/QTPalmtop/lib/libmicrokabc_qtopia.so, libqpepim.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory  (this message appears 3 times)
KLibrary: The library microkabc_qtopia does not offer an init_microkabc_qtopia function
KRES::factory::resource(): Factory creation failed for library microkabc_qtopia
Please, give me some help with this ...

I do have the file
/home/QTPalmtop/lib/libmicrokabc_qtopia.so
which is a link to /home/QTPalmtop/lib/libmicrokabc_qtopia.so.1.0.0, but I don't have the file /home/QTPalmtop/lib/libqpepim.so.1, so I guess this is (part of) the problem. If so, where can I get this file? I'm using a 760 with TKCrom.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: pakman on September 15, 2004, 09:10:32 am
holck, your configuration looks like mine, but I don't have this problem, even though I don't have libqpepim.so.1 either. Are you using version 1.9.5a of KDE-Pim? If not, try backing up your data, uninstalling everything to do with KDE-Pim that is an earlier version, and upgrading to 1.9.5a (except for the alarm applet, which should be 1.9.4).

Even if you think that you are using 1.9.5a, you may have forgotten to upgrade one of the packages. I suggest that you double-check carefully.

Hope that this helps,
P.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: jesizmi on September 15, 2004, 12:28:31 pm
Hi,
i doublechecked it again, but the sizing of the settings dialog is sub-optimal.
In landscape-mode the button row is hidden behind the system task bar.
In portrait-mode they're perfectly visible and you can see a lot of unused space above the checkboxes.
On the other hand the columns on the contact-tab are misproportioned in portrait-mode only, they're perfect in landscape.
The left column, with the listbox where youre supposed to read pre-/postfixes, is so ridiculously tiny and then with scrollbars, you've got to read the entry letter by letter. (Ok that's a bit of an exaggeration)  

I haven't figured out yet, what the extensions dialog is for. Can you give me a hint?

I haven't tried kammu yet, so nothing there.

Keep on the good work.

j.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: vdkuil on September 16, 2004, 04:33:59 am
Hi,

I am currently using 1.9.5. version (not the updated ones... sorry cannot seem to keep up with them  ) And I have a question about syncing ko/pi.
When a add an entry to my korganizer on my kde desktop machine (using kde version 3.3) and sync with ko/pi I seem to loose this newly added entry.

Is this a known problem or am I doing something wrong here?

Thanks for your help...
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 16, 2004, 04:46:58 am
Quote
Hi,

I am currently using 1.9.5. version (not the updated ones... sorry cannot seem to keep up with them  ) And I have a question about syncing ko/pi.
When a add an entry to my korganizer on my kde desktop machine (using kde version 3.3) and sync with ko/pi I seem to loose this newly added entry.

Is this a known problem or am I doing something wrong here?

Thanks for your help...
You will find the answer in the sync howto in the help menu:
NOTE:
YOU MAY GET UNEXSPECTED (I.E. WRONG) SYNCHRONIZATION RESULTS,
IF YOU CHANGE AN EVENT ON THE FIRST DEVICE AND SYNC IMMEDIATELY FROM
THE OTHER DEVICE WITH THIS DEVICE, IF THE CLOCKS OF THE TWO DEVICES
HAVE TOO MUCH DIFFERENCE.

Solution:
Set the time settings on the devices to the same time..

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: jesizmi on September 16, 2004, 04:23:03 pm
Zautrix,
you're fixing the bugs faster then we can find them,
I'm really impressed.
I've just downloaded 1.9.5b and installed it. Looks fine so far. Closer testing and report will follow tomorrow.

Greetz

j.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: vdkuil on September 17, 2004, 02:27:07 am
Quote
When a add an entry to my korganizer on my kde desktop machine (using kde version 3.3) and sync with ko/pi I seem to loose this newly added entry.

Is this a known problem or am I doing something wrong here?

Hmmm.. I am the one to blame here. I made a typo in the scp command from my desktop to my zaurus

But can it be a good idea to use the following fields:
desktop location (textfield, for example: /home/zaurususer/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/std.ics)
zaurus location: (textfield, for example /tmp/mycalendar.ics)
user: (textfield, for example zaurususer)
type: ftp/scp (radiobutton?)

This way it is a lot easier to configure imho.

Please let me know what you think.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Zuber on September 17, 2004, 08:09:23 am
Yep. Config. file works fine now.

Not much left to do in the addressbook itself (imho). Just the sync.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: jesizmi on September 17, 2004, 11:12:58 am
I'm allmost content now. IMO the're only few things left to fix:
tochiness of file menu in kapi
sizing of config box in kapi
speed of ompi

kopi ist next to perfect by now.

j.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Zuber on September 17, 2004, 12:25:24 pm
Quote
kopi ist next to perfect by now.

Is that "Next to Perfect" because nothing can ever be perfect or because there is something that could be improved  
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: suid on September 17, 2004, 04:53:16 pm
Just one problem I've found with KA/Pi that I haven't seen reported elsewhere, so maybe I'm misunderstanding it ...

Look&Feel->Row Separator

If I change this to "Alternating backgrounds" or "Single line", there is no change to the main view window (Family Name and Given Name are my chosen fields).

Other than that, great! My geek dream would be integration with qpegps to pull out the geo dat from the address book and direct you there!
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Chaos on September 18, 2004, 04:33:22 pm
I agree with the general sentiment about KO/Pi. It's great.

KA/Pi still needs some work (i.e. in 1.9.4 it didn't start from the icon -- I haven't tried 1.9.5 yet), but looks like it'll be great when finished.

Similar, OM/Pi still needs a little work.

On the whole, are KO/Pi and KA/Pi capable of receiving beamed contacts/calendars by default? I've heard that this doesn't work...

Also... The whole package is just a little too large to be convenient... About 8 MB for the full install. It's just not real practical. Any way to slim this down (would also help with the fast load)?
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: ev1l on September 18, 2004, 06:28:18 pm
Quote
On the whole, are KO/Pi and KA/Pi capable of receiving beamed contacts/calendars by default? I've heard that this doesn't work...
You can beam out practicaly anything, but beaming in is a bit problematic.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Chaos on September 18, 2004, 08:29:46 pm
Quote
Quote
On the whole, are KO/Pi and KA/Pi capable of receiving beamed contacts/calendars by default? I've heard that this doesn't work...
You can beam out practicaly anything, but beaming in is a bit problematic.
It was receiving (beaming in) that I was referring to.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: holck on September 19, 2004, 06:17:14 am
Quote
holck, your configuration looks like mine, but I don't have this problem, even though I don't have libqpepim.so.1 either. Are you using version 1.9.5a of KDE-Pim? If not, try backing up your data, uninstalling everything to do with KDE-Pim that is an earlier version, and upgrading to 1.9.5a (except for the alarm applet, which should be 1.9.4).

Even if you think that you are using 1.9.5a, you may have forgotten to upgrade one of the packages. I suggest that you double-check carefully.
Pakman: thank you for your suggestion. I tried this, removed all KDE-Pim ipk's, and installed version 1.9.5b - first kmicrokdelibs and then kdaddressbook - but the problem is still there. I can start KAPI from the command line and it seems to be working OK, but when I try to import my Qtopia calendar, I get these messages:

Code: [Select]
QLibrary open failed!: /home/QTPalmtop/lib/libmicrokabc_qtopia.so, libqpepim.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory (this message appears 4 times)
KLibrary: The library microkabc_qtopia does not offer an init_microkabc_qtopia function
KRES::factory::resource(): Factory creation failed for library microkabc_qtopia

If the missing libqpepim.so.1 is not the problem, I have no clue at all.

/Jesper
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: henley_regatta on September 20, 2004, 05:53:39 am
First of all, thanks very much for an excellent PIM suite. I installed it last friday intending to play with it for a while, but I was so impressed I've already moved all my data to KO/Pi and switched the default suite to KDE-Pim on my C860! (mainly because I know I can switch back thanks for the excellent DTM Sync!)

I have a few questions/observations on 1.95b which perhaps someone could comment on?

Firstly, I've noticed KO/Pi has some rather odd memory usage. It seems to grow over time, then (occasionally) randomly shrink later. I'd say it was a memory leak except sometimes - and without me noticing a trigger - it goes back somewhat. Since KO/Pi is taking up rather a lot of memory to start with, the growth can be a bit alarming (especially since I've configured it to load-on-start, so it neverquits...)

Secondly, and I can't help but think this must be a bug, if I try to re-open closed TO-DOs (especially those I've synced in from DTM), I can reliably crash KO/Pi. Simple test:...To be fair, I only tried this after syncing TODOs with DTM, so I wonder if there's something odd about the data being imported?

Thirdly, the "Menu" hardware button (next to OK/CANCEL on my C860) doesn't jump to the menu. It jumps to the toolbar. There is no way (that I can see) of getting to the menus using the keyboard.

Fourthly, what is a "Marcus Bains line" and why would I want one?

Lastly, it would be nice if there was some way to cause "Exit and Save" to really exit if "fast-load" has been set. At the moment, this just closes the window, but KO/Pi stays resident. I'm actually using my TODO bug above to implement this feature, since it's the only way I've found to make any config changes that require a restart work!!!

Once again, thanks for a great suite!
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: pakman on September 20, 2004, 06:13:50 am
Hi holck

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I can start KAPI from the command line and it seems to be working OK, but when I try to import my Qtopia calendar

I didn't see your earlier message, and I didn't realise that you were trying to import tkcCalendar data. I am not sure that this can work directly. Reading between the lines on the page about tkcCalendar (http://www.thekompany.com/embedded/tkccalendar/), I suspect that while tkcCalendar is able to read the Sharp DTM data fine, it may write its data out in the DTM format, but in a way that does not preserve full compatability with the Sharp apps (perhaps with additional fields), which may be why they are still having problems with syncing tkcCalendar data. You could check this by running the Sharp to-do and calendar programs, and see if they can read your current calendar data, but back up the data first (i.e. make copies of the files in /homes/zaurus/Applications/dtm, and copy them back if anything gets screwed up). I don't know if you still have the IPK for the tkcROM that you need for this (sharp-pims_1.5.4-sl-c7x0_arm.ipk) - I could make it available to you if not.

If you can get your data into M$-Outlook somehow, you could import tha data from Outlook into KO/Pi running on Windows, and import the calendar file back into KO/Pi on the Z.

You could also try using zdbat (http://yakty.s31.xrea.com/cgi-bin/wiki/linuzau/wiki.cgi?zdbat) from the linzau tool set (http://yakty.s31.xrea.com/linuzau/) . Most of these pages are in Japanese, but it is possible to infer what zdbat does from the smattering of English on the zdbat web page. If you install zdbat and run it from the command line, it gives some help in English. With the -r option (if I remember correctly) it will export DTM data into comma-separated fields to standard output, which you might be able to process into a form that ko/pi will import. If you are proficient in a suitable language like Perl, Python or Ruby, it would help.

Good luck,
P.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: jesizmi on September 20, 2004, 08:40:10 am
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It was receiving (beaming in) that I was referring to.
Hi Chaos,
you can receive appointments or addresses into Kopi/Kapi via IR with a little trick.
When you received the item and are prompted to add to calendar or addressbook, just don't. Instead exit by tapping the OK-Button in the upper right corner, which leaves you with a fine file in /home/tmp/obex to be imported in Kapi or Kopi through their file menu.

j.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: vdkuil on September 20, 2004, 10:27:18 am
Hi,

I was wondering (since I finally am able to use the USB networking) if it is possible to start the the sync through a command line. This way it would be possible to just place the zaurus in my cradle to sync my calendar stuff.

Thanks,
One happy zaurus user
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: ulf1 on September 20, 2004, 01:19:58 pm
Hello Jesper,

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KLibrary: The library microkabc_qtopia does not offer an init_microkabc_qtopia function

This tells me that the kernel can not dynamically load libmicrokabc_qtopia.so because of a wrong/incomplete initializationroutine.

My guess is that you are still using an older "incompatible libmicrokabc_qtopia.so lib
that the uninstall/install process did not overwrite with the newest version which resides in the kmicrokdelibs package.

Did you check after uninstalling the pim suite that there is no libmicrokabc_qtopia.so lib left on your system?
   
~Ulf
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: Chaos on September 20, 2004, 11:59:35 pm
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you can receive appointments or addresses into Kopi/Kapi via IR with a little trick.
When you received the item and are prompted to add to calendar or addressbook, just don't. Instead exit by tapping the OK-Button in the upper right corner, which leaves you with a fine file in /home/tmp/obex to be imported in Kapi or Kopi through their file menu.
Hmm, nice to know. Unfortunately that's not as convenient as fully automatic...
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: holck on September 21, 2004, 05:00:03 am
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KLibrary: The library microkabc_qtopia does not offer an init_microkabc_qtopia function

This tells me that the kernel can not dynamically load libmicrokabc_qtopia.so because of a wrong/incomplete initializationroutine.

My guess is that you are still using an older "incompatible libmicrokabc_qtopia.so lib
that the uninstall/install process did not overwrite with the newest version which resides in the kmicrokdelibs package.

Did you check after uninstalling the pim suite that there is no libmicrokabc_qtopia.so lib left on your system?
Thank you for the suggestions! I tried following Ulf's advice and unstalled all kde pim packages, and checked that this also erased libmicrokabc_qtopia files and links in the /home/QtPalmtop/lib directory. Installing kmicrodelibs gave a message like "This package seems to depend on other packages, please install them too", but added the libmicrokabc* files to /home/QtPalmtop/lib . I installed KAPI once more, but the problem is still there - same error messages as before, when I try to import the Qtopia addressbook.

I have also tried to install kmicrokdelibs with ipkg from the command line, hoping for some warnings or error messages, but no problems showed up. So, so far, no luck.

/Jesper
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 21, 2004, 05:42:25 am
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KLibrary: The library microkabc_qtopia does not offer an init_microkabc_qtopia function

This tells me that the kernel can not dynamically load libmicrokabc_qtopia.so because of a wrong/incomplete initializationroutine.

My guess is that you are still using an older "incompatible libmicrokabc_qtopia.so lib
that the uninstall/install process did not overwrite with the newest version which resides in the kmicrokdelibs package.

Did you check after uninstalling the pim suite that there is no libmicrokabc_qtopia.so lib left on your system?
Thank you for the suggestions! I tried following Ulf's advice and unstalled all kde pim packages, and checked that this also erased libmicrokabc_qtopia files and links in the /home/QtPalmtop/lib directory. Installing kmicrodelibs gave a message like "This package seems to depend on other packages, please install them too", but added the libmicrokabc* files to /home/QtPalmtop/lib . I installed KAPI once more, but the problem is still there - same error messages as before, when I try to import the Qtopia addressbook.

I have also tried to install kmicrokdelibs with ipkg from the command line, hoping for some warnings or error messages, but no problems showed up. So, so far, no luck.

/Jesper

As your error message says:

QLibrary open failed!: /home/QTPalmtop/lib/libmicrokabc_qtopia.so, libqpepim.so.1: cannot load shared

You need libqpepim.so.1 to use the qtopia import.

New Sharp Roms (> 3.1.0) does not habe this lib.
You have to copy it from an old Sharp Rom ( 2.3.8)

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: raybert on September 25, 2004, 12:56:00 am
zautrix: I'm having the same problem.  I installed libqpepim.so.1 into /home/QtPalmtop/lib and now it's failing on a different lib: libqtopia

Here's thw output:
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QLibrary open failed!: /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libmicrokabc_qtopia.so, libqtopia.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
QLibrary open failed!: /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libmicrokabc_qtopia.so, libqtopia.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
QLibrary open failed!: /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libmicrokabc_qtopia.so, libqtopia.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
QLibrary open failed!: /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libmicrokabc_qtopia.so, libqtopia.so.1: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
KLibrary: The library microkabc_qtopia does not offer an init_microkabc_qtopia function
KRES::Factory::resource(): Factory creation failed for library microkabc_qtopia

I'm running tkcROM 2.51 on a c860.

Any ideas?

Thanks once again for all your awesome work (and ulf too)!

~ray
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: sriram.rajan on September 25, 2004, 01:27:11 am
I installed ka/pi on a pdaxrom RC/3 mahine, and have also installed all the required libs to get the application started.  However, it still complains on startup.  There are many resource, config files, and libraries missing (which i remember was not the case when i installed ka/pi on a cacko rom a few weeks ago).  

I get the following error messages:

KLibLoader::library could not find library libmicrokabc_opie.so
KLibLoader::library could not find library libmicrokabc_qtopia.so
KLibLoader::library could not find library libmicrokabc_sharpdtm.so
KLibLoader::library could not find library libmicrokabc_file.so

The resource files missing are:

KRES::Factory::resource(): Fcatory creation failed for library microkabc_file No resource available!!!

KConfig: could not open file /home/root/kdepim/config/kaddressrc
KConfig: could not open file /home/root/kdepim/config/kabcrc

The application starts fine in spite of so many warnings, but due to the missing 'resource file' I cannot import contacts or create them.  For starters, could anyone supply me the config files above?  (By the way, I have checked my disk space, and I have ample room.)

Thanks.

Sriram
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: raybert on September 25, 2004, 01:27:50 am
zautrix: FOLLOWUP: I found libqtopia.so.1.6.2 on your site and copied it to /home/QtPalmtop/lib.  I then created a symlink to it (in the same directory) called libqtopia.so.1

Now I get the following error:
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ResourceQtopia::doOpen(): /home/root/Applications/addressbook/addressbook.xml kapi: error while loading shared libraries: /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libqpepim.so.1: undefined symbol: lockFile__6GlobalR5QFilei
Any ideas?

Thanks,

~ray
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: holck on September 25, 2004, 02:28:27 pm
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Now I get the following error:
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ResourceQtopia::doOpen(): /home/root/Applications/addressbook/addressbook.xml kapi: error while loading shared libraries: /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libqpepim.so.1: undefined symbol: lockFile__6GlobalR5QFilei
Exact same situation for me,
Jesper
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: zautrix on September 26, 2004, 04:17:47 pm
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I installed ka/pi on a pdaxrom RC/3 mahine, and have also installed all the required libs to get the application started.  However, it still complains on startup.  There are many resource, config files, and libraries missing (which i remember was not the case when i installed ka/pi on a cacko rom a few weeks ago).  

I get the following error messages:

KLibLoader::library could not find library libmicrokabc_opie.so
KLibLoader::library could not find library libmicrokabc_qtopia.so
KLibLoader::library could not find library libmicrokabc_sharpdtm.so
KLibLoader::library could not find library libmicrokabc_file.so

The resource files missing are:

KRES::Factory::resource(): Fcatory creation failed for library microkabc_file No resource available!!!

KConfig: could not open file /home/root/kdepim/config/kaddressrc
KConfig: could not open file /home/root/kdepim/config/kabcrc

The application starts fine in spite of so many warnings, but due to the missing 'resource file' I cannot import contacts or create them.  For starters, could anyone supply me the config files above?  (By the way, I have checked my disk space, and I have ample room.)

Thanks.

Sriram
Where did you get the version of KA/Pi for the pdaXrom?

The versions we are providing precompiled are not useable on pdaXrom.
And we cannot answer any question about problems running applications o pdaXrom, sorry.

z.
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: sriram.rajan on September 28, 2004, 02:24:36 am
i just downloaded the package from sourceforge AND IT WORKS.  with the exception that the resource files did not get copied over.  can you please send them to me?  i know you do not support this, but sending the resource files shouldn't be such a problem if it is all that is necessary to use a great application.
thanks.

sriram
Title: KDE-Pim/Pi 1.9.4 Release
Post by: ulf1 on September 28, 2004, 05:45:05 pm
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i just downloaded the package from sourceforge AND IT WORKS.  with the exception that the resource files did not get copied over.  can you please send them to me?  i know you do not support this, but sending the resource files shouldn't be such a problem if it is all that is necessary to use a great application.
thanks.

sriram
The missing resource and configfiles are not your problem.
Ka/Pi creates them on demand if they are missing and stores them at the appropriate place.

Even if you can start Ka/Pi you can not use it because you can not load and store the adressbook because the libraries can not be found.

As zautrix already said, the version on sourceforge does not work with pdaXRom. You need a special version that we do'nt provide (search the forums for pdaxrom and ka/pi)

~Ulf