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News: http://openzaurus.org/oz_website/content/news (http://openzaurus.org/oz_website/content/news)
Downloads: http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.1/ (http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.1/)
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Great news!!! Now, where's the feeds ?
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Oh this looks good. Can't wait for the GPE version.
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Does this support Opie??
Dan
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OpenZaurus 3.5.1 comes in three flavours:
* Bootstrap-Image: For special purposes, no GUI environment installed
* Opie-Image: Preinstalled with the Qt/Embedded based Open Palmtop Integrated Environment
* GPE-Image: Preinstalled with the X Window based G Palmtop Environment
Yes, there are 3 images, Opie, GPE and a barebones one from the looks of the above (from the news page).
Si
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It is released, it is fast, is it great ;)
Picture is SL-5500 with OZ 3.5.1 on left and older OZ on right.
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Are the application feeds coming up?
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Sounds great,
Anything I should know before I attempt to shoehorn it onto my new 5600?
I got round to setting up the oe development environment on Friday but haven't had time to play with it yet.
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Some screenshots from the forthcoming GPE image (almost ready, not quite yet):
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Ooooooooh pretty
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@Hrw: What have you done to the fpu? That's a lot faster.
Si
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lardman: I? Our GCC mastah Kergoth (let his name be known forever) looked into GCC 3.4.x code so we now do "soft-float" fpu operations instead of using kernel "hard-float" method which was much slower.
This boost is greatest thing we got from using new GCC instead of old crappy 2.95.3 which should be forgotten by all (especially by Sharp engineers).
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OK, I'm confused. I have an 860. I was under the impression that this was called the Boxer. When I first got it I thought it was a huskey, but I was corrected by various folks and told it was the boxer.
When I go to the download site for 7x0 & 8x0, there isn't a boxer image.
What is the name for my 860 ? ? ? ?
(PS any why all these dogs names? it just confuses the issue)
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C860 is same as C760 so we decided to not make diff between them.
Use C760 images.
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...the forthcoming GPE image (almost ready, not quite yet):... Coming soon
Care to say when the GPE version will be ready? It will breath new life into my SL5500. I hope.
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C860 is same as C760 so we decided to not make diff between them. Use C760 images.
OK. Now for another question: What is the pet name for the 760?
I know a lot of people find the pet names to be second nature, but everyone knows their model number. Why add a layer of confusion?
EDIT: Never mind - I found it in the FAQ. I still think it adds a layer of confusion. (Just my Opinion)
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I just recently got an SL-5600, and so far only have the Sharp 1.32 rom on it. I have read posts by those who are brave enough to load other roms. It seems that some new feature works, but some other feature (support for various odd-branded devices for instance) stops working.
Those of you who have tried this new rom, what new features work and which ones do not yet work? Can you print from the Z over a network. That would be great.
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Can someone please tell me the difference between the ZImage.bin 's
Corgi
Husky
Sheperd
is?
Please
..Clive
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corgi - C700
sheperd - C750
husky - C760
boxer - C860 (same as husky in OZ)
tosa - SL-6000
collie - SL-5000/5500
poodle - SL-5600
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Thanks HRW
Its a great help
..Clive
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I just recently got an SL-5600, and so far only have the Sharp 1.32 rom on it. I have read posts by those who are brave enough to load other roms. It seems that some new feature works, but some other feature (support for various odd-branded devices for instance) stops working.
Those of you who have tried this new rom, what new features work and which ones do not yet work? Can you print from the Z over a network. That would be great.
I'm just about to test this on my 5600 so I'll report back later and let you know what its like
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...the forthcoming GPE image (almost ready, not quite yet):... Coming soon
Care to say when the GPE version will be ready? It will breath new life into my SL5500. I hope.
Later today hopefully - It's all waiting on gpe-nmf now - I'm sorting out the final bug left in it before release so that there's a working small(-ish) audio-player for GPE available.
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I loaded it on my 5600 and it works pretty well. I couldn't get it to sync with QTopia Desktop, but everything else seems like flawless victory. It is much faster than the Sharp rom both in the gfx and general responsivenes.
Test results:
Integer Arithmetic: 323572 dhrys
FP Arithmetic: 2.55 secs
Text Rendering: 652 chars/sec
Gfx Rendering: 2843.83 gops/sec
RAM Perf: 28MB/s,33.24MB/s
SD Perf: 28.1MB/s,33.53MB/s
CF Perf: 17.17MB/s, 936.66 kB/s
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I reflashed my 5600 with 3.5.1 today from SD card (which was a little scary, but worked very well).
Excellent job, everything seems very slick.
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I have a SL5500 can I flash with just the SD card or do I still need a CF, I updated my ROM to the 5600 .
Thanks in advance.
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I have a SL5500 can I flash with just the SD card or do I still need a CF, I updated my ROM to the 5600 .
I couldn't say for certain for the collie, but on my poodle I used just the SD card and it worked like a charm.
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The 5500 can only flash from CF, The firmware for flashing is different between the 5500 and 5600.
Hopefully the GPE image will be ready when I get home, I'm looking forward to trying it.
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If you're flashing the rom and the lights come on and go out quite quickly and you end up with the rom that was there before, what are you doing wrong?
I'm obviously having a dumb moment, I've flashed the rom plenty of times before and never had this happen :-(
I was testing a rom image from the GPE/OZ 3.5 just to see, but the new official OZ 3.5.1 won't flash nor will my old tkRom files. It's very, very weird.
Any suggestions from anyone would be appreciated
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OK, that's weird, reformating my CF as FAT and not FAT32 was to blame, but I've flashed the ROM before with that card at FAT32. Obviously having an idiocy attack as I should have thought to try that first *sigh*
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OK, that's weird, reformating my CF as FAT and not FAT32 was to blame, but I've flashed the ROM before with that card at FAT32. Obviously having an idiocy attack as I should have thought to try that first *sigh*
Same thing happend to me.
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I just installed the 64+0 kernel on my 5500. While exporing the new Opie, I picked Console 1 or 2 from the Opie terminal menu. Poof! I'm sitting on the console. That's fine. How do I go back to Opie now?
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Looks awesome on my 760!
Is there a package feed?
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What version of Opie is actually used for this release?
The About under the O menu says Open Palmtop Integrated Enviroment V1.1.6
The background for the launcher says Opie 1.2
What Opie feed can we use with this?
http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/unstable/op...us/gcc3/SL5xxx/ (http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/unstable/openzaurus/gcc3/SL5xxx/) Seems to be for Opie 1.1.4
http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/stable/openzaurus/ (http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/stable/openzaurus/) Seems to be for Opie 1.0
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I just installed the 64+0 kernel on my 5500. While exporing the new Opie, I picked Console 1 or 2 from the Opie terminal menu. Poof! I'm sitting on the console. That's fine. How do I go back to Opie now?
chvt x
Where x is the terminal number you're after
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OK, put all my ipks onto my compact flash, opened the package manager and nothing is showing up - am I having another idiocy attack?
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Another interesting problem I seem to have stumbled across, although I'm not sure its peculiar to OZ, but I haven't been able to duplicate the symptoms on the sharp roms.
Attempting to connect to a wireless AP using WEP produces less than desireable results: In the Network -> Start/Stop (wlan0) -> 802.11b tab The ESSID tab flashes with the name of the AP and a random string of characters, DHCP does not discover, and setting a manual IP does not work.
Turning WEP off on the AP and rebooting the Z does the trick, DHCP discovers, an IP is assigned and networking functions normally.
Is there a problem with WEP support in OZ? If not, have I done something wrong? I did notice that there is no option for choosing between 64bit and 128bit WEP key lengths.
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I've tried the 64-0 image and it doesn't seem like anything gets stored on the SD card. Am I missing something?
As for the package manager I've been using 'ipkg install name.ipk' at a command prompt to install everything.
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Agosine: IIRC, nothing gets added to the SD card in an installation, you have to move various directories over yourself and simlink them in. I think the instructions are on the openzaurus.org web site.
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OK, put all my ipks onto my compact flash, opened the package manager and nothing is showing up - am I having another idiocy attack?
I ran into the same problem. I think I manage to wipe out everything that wasn't on the root directory of the CF card in the process. Surely there's a way to add a local package repository?
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I tried the old instructions to move directories over and it failed. I'll try following them again.
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Someone wrote a script for the TKC ROM that automated the moving of ~/home to an ext2 SD card. Is there such a thing for the new OZ? If not, how hard would it be to modify the TKC script (or write a new one from scratch)?
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I just installed the 64+0 kernel on my 5500. While exporing the new Opie, I picked Console 1 or 2 from the Opie terminal menu. Poof! I'm sitting on the console. That's fine. How do I go back to Opie now?
chvt x
Where x is the terminal number you're after
Good. Thanks.
Now suppose I log out of the console? Is there any way to switch then?
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I just installed the 64+0 kernel on my 5500. While exporing the new Opie, I picked Console 1 or 2 from the Opie terminal menu. Poof! I'm sitting on the console. That's fine. How do I go back to Opie now?
chvt x
Where x is the terminal number you're after
Now suppose I log out of the console? Is there any way to switch then?
At the shell prompt
chvt 2; exit
takes you back to Opie and exits the login shell.
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Had my wlan settings worked once. Then I removed my Wifi card. It forgot everything. Now I can't setup the damn thing...
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Had my wlan settings worked once. Then I removed my Wifi card. It forgot everything. Now I can't setup the damn thing...
Try a reboot from the Settings->Shutdown app.
Are you using WEP or any kind of security on your Wireless network?
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Had my wlan settings worked once. Then I removed my Wifi card. It forgot everything. Now I can't setup the damn thing...
Try a reboot from the Settings->Shutdown app.
Are you using WEP or any kind of security on your Wireless network?
thanks, it works after got rebooted...
But who will solve the Package Manager mistery? Are old ipks still work? If no, how do I get them working?
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I tried using ipkg from the console. But I guess that I don't know enough about telling ipkg where to stick things... first I tried to install to Opera from a CF to Internal Memory - so called - and ran out of space.
(Using 32/32 zImage on a SL5500... Looking in System Info shows that ipkg was trying to install to /dev/root. How do I tell ipkg to install to what System info calls 'Internal Memory'? System Info lists 2 Internal Memories; one 31729 kb, other 15069 kb, both almost completely free. What/where are they? I know 32 Mb was given over to 'Memory', so what is System Info saying?)
Anyway, wiser people than I could probably use ipkg to install local files if they know what they are about!
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I'm wondering if the 32mb 'Internal Memory' is a bug, I'm using a 64/0 image and I see that in the System Info screen myself as well as my /dev/root and SD Card.
Total memory shows ~62mb which makes me think the 64/0 image is working.
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RE: The pesky Wireless/WEP/DHCP problems I was encountering earlier, I've come up with the following work around... If someone points me in the right direction I'll be happy to have a look at why opie isn't managing this from the Network app.
1. Under Settings->Network ensure that you're working with wlan0 and NOT wifi0 (I've not worked out what this is for yet)
2. A quick Rescan Neighbourhood should allow you to discover your AP, select it and then fill in any missing bits on the General tab (e.g. SSID, Channel etc)
3. Don't bother with the Encryption tab as it doesn't appear to do anything.
4. In the TCP/IP tab, select the Automatically bring up and DHCP tick boxes (Unless you're specifying an IP/Subnet/DNS etc)
5. Now to get WEP working, open a console and type the following:
iwconfig wlan0 key s:password [1]Replace "password" with your WEP key. The [1] in brackets denotes which (of the 4 available) keys you're setting, [1] is fine in our case. The s: allows us to enter our key in ASCII rather than HEX.
6. Now type: iwlist wlan0 key You should be presented with a hex representation of your new key and some other information.
7. Now to bring up the adaptor and get an IP address from the dhcp server type:
ifup wlan08. You should see the usual Linux DHCP messages along with a successfully assigned IP address and DNS servers added to your resolv.conf automatically.
9. Test it out by pinging a webserver or two.
Hope this will help people out in the future, I couldn't find all of that in one place anywhere so it took a bit of fiddling.
Now wlan is working, where did I put that Opera browser....
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I'm wondering if the 32mb 'Internal Memory' is a bug, I'm using a 64/0 image and I see that in the System Info screen myself as well as my /dev/root and SD Card.
I was wondering about that too.
I tried using ipkg from the console. But I guess that I don't know enough about telling ipkg where to stick things... first I tried to install to Opera from a CF to Internal Memory - so called - and ran out of space.
(Using 32/32 zImage on a SL5500... Looking in System Info shows that ipkg was trying to install to /dev/root. How do I tell ipkg to install to what System info calls 'Internal Memory'? System Info lists 2 Internal Memories; one 31729 kb, other 15069 kb, both almost completely free. What/where are they? I know 32 Mb was given over to 'Memory', so what is System Info saying?)
Anyway, wiser people than I could probably use ipkg to install local files if they know what they are about!
Edit /etc/ipkg.conf and add a new dest line which points to the location you want to make available. E.g. I might add a new one like this:
dest user /home/user
Which will stick stuff in my home partition (you'll need to create the /home/user directory).
Then use ipkg like so:
ipkg install -d user blah-blah.ipk
Shame the package manager has got rid of the local packages tab which it used to have. I suppose there's a script somewhere which creates a Package file for a load of ipks in a directory (which is what I have on my CF card). Then we can add a feed and go from there.
Anyway, great work guys!!
Si
Si
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hmm i think im going to try the 64/0 kernel, i need more space for apps hehe
edit: that x based one looks good, when?
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I'm a little slow, but I don't see the "initrd" in:
http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.1/sl5000,sl5500/ (http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.1/sl5000,sl5500/)
Is it not needed anymore?
Do I only need to flash it with just the Zimage?
thx
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I'm a little slow, but I don't see the "initrd" in:
http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.1/sl5000,sl5500/ (http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.1/sl5000,sl5500/)
Is it not needed anymore?
Do I only need to flash it with just the Zimage?
thx
You need to rename the .jffs2 file to initrd.bin and flash like that.
gpe-image for collie is now finished and will be available in the morning - Sorry for the delay, but definitely worth it in my opinion
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Thank you!
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I too noticed the discrepancy in the memory shown in Opie's System Info.
I flashed the 64-0 image, and System Info shows 32 MB total .
If I go to the command line and use 'free' I see 64 MB total.
One other thing I've noticed is if I switch to terminal 1 from the O-menu, the backlight will follow my apm settings as if the unit were idle. ie: dims after 30 seconds, off after 60, even if I've been typing on the keyboard. Once I switch back to terminal 2/OPIE, the light comes back on.
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That 32MiB of "internal memory" in opie-sysinfo is tmpfs used for /var/ - it's harmless, it's use RAM as storage but occupy only as much memory as it needs.
http://openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/OzReleaseNotes (http://openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/OzReleaseNotes) has current notes about release. And it is wiki so everyone can add some info. We will use those notes to improve next releases of OZ.
About feed - You shouldn't use any external feeds - they rather won't work with OZ 3.5.1 due to many changes (soft-float, gcc 3.x etc). We provided our feed (little late but it is) and will provide "upgrades" to packages with problems.
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Is there a list anywhere that says what each file in the feed is, and does, and what each one is related to, if they are?
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Very nice, this feed is!
It is having all my fav apps (mileage, keyring, zauralign, gaim), I hope Package Manager will be able to set it too! Yesterday I was unable to set any feeds for the Z... It kept constantly forgetting any feeds I was trying to set. Wish me more luck tonight.
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In regards to opie-packagemanager, please check the release notes on the wiki - OzReleaseNotes (http://www.openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/OzReleaseNotes)
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Is there a list anywhere that says what each file in the feed is, and does, and what each one is related to, if they are?
The Packages file in the feed directory is a text file containing this info (it's for ipkg to use, but can be read as it's just plain text).
Si
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Here's a silly question...
from the OzReleaseNotes (http://www.openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/OzReleaseNotes), it says, Sharp SL-5000 and SL-5500
* use Notepad + <cursor-left> and Notepad + <cursor-right> to switch between console VTs or back to Opie (alternatively use chvt x from the console, where x is the number of the VT to switch to)
Which button are they referring to as Notepad?
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far left hardware button
For me it's rather "DateBook" button BTW.
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WEP works on my 5500 via the GUI.
I've now connected to two different access points both which use wep after adding the key via the encryption tab.
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Is there a gpe image for c760...?
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Just installed opie on the C760...looks great!
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WEP works on my 5500 via the GUI.
I've now connected to two different access points both which use wep after adding the key via the encryption tab.
It would be interesting to attempt to replicate the problems I had on the 5600. It may have been down to the DHCP server, although that sounds unlikely.
If you get the chance, give DHCP and WEP a go on the 5500 at the same time... otherwise we could be looking at a poodle specific problem.
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Just curious...
I remember reading that one of the main advantages of OE was that the development cycle would be faster.
Is there is a roadmap now for OE/OZ?
Is there an eta on OZ 3.5.2?
When does it stop being OZ 3.5.x and start being OZ 3.6.x?
Unfortunately all of the above makes me sound a little ungrateful for OZ 3.5.1. I am actually really grateful to all of the developers on OE and OZ and OPIE and GPE.
If anyone is able to suggest beginners guides to helping with any of the above, for those who want to help but don't know how to, that'd be fab.
Thanks to all,
Owen
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There is a ToDo list for the future release of OZ3.6.
http://www.openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/OzTODO3.6.0 (http://www.openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/OzTODO3.6.0)
It was last updated on Aug 11.
I imagine now that 3.5.1 is out there can be much more focus on the next stable release.
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I've just tested.
WEP + DHCP works fine, I even get the correct DNS information in /etc/resolv.conf from the DHCP server.
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So, uhh, any word on GPE for the C series, yet?
I'm about to shake to pieces from anticipation.
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I've been running the Poodle image for about a week on my 5600.
By and large, it works wonderfully.
I posted the bugs I found on the release wiki.
Most importantly, I have successfully synced the system using multisync, notes are on the release wiki posted earlier.
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Any chance of a GPE Build for the C860, pretty please
..Clive
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Hi how did you get multisync functioning
I cant find an sftp or ftp server for OZ 3.5.1 and this is all mulitsync supports?
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Any chance of a GPE Build for the C860, pretty please
We would like to, but we can't. There are problems with the X-Server starting in the wrong rotation and calibration being hosed due to that. It needs more investigating. We can upload a preview gpe image, but it would only be usable for people who would like to help us fixing it.
Still interested in that case?
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Have C860, I'd be up for giving it a go. I can't build my own image at the moment as OE seems to grind to a halt after 1100 packages, eat all my swap then segfault :-( This was with 1.5Gig of swap.
How much extra RAM should I be buying, I have 512Meg in the machine.
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Thanks Mickeyl but it has been ten years since I played with X11 seriously
It will take me a few months to get up to speed!
I had better leave it to XorA
Go for it XorA
..Clive
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I am also interested in helping out with that (x11/gpe). I have a C750.
I have just setup OE and I'd like to try to help out.
Congratulations to everybody involved for their hard work (is there a means to donate?).
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Have C860, I'd be up for giving it a go. I can't build my own image at the moment as OE seems to grind to a halt after 1100 packages, eat all my swap then segfault :-( This was with 1.5Gig of swap.
How much extra RAM should I be buying, I have 512Meg in the machine.
I compile OE with 1GByte of RAM and i don't see a lot of swapping.
HTH
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> I compile OE with 1GByte of RAM and i don't see a lot of swapping.
Well I've just ordered another 512Meg DDR stick, so I'll see if I can compile then :-) Otherwise Im wasting this Athlon64.
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I got impatient last night, found a GPE image from a week ago, or so, and flashed it on my 760 several times prior to Mickey's post.
I can confirm that GPE defaults to the wrong rotation and the display is hosed but I'm too ignorant to fix the problem.
I had to reflash to my normal setup.
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> I compile OE with 1GByte of RAM and i don't see a lot of swapping.
Well I've just ordered another 512Meg DDR stick, so I'll see if I can compile then :-) Otherwise Im wasting this Athlon64.
I managed an opie image on a PII-400 with 64MB RAM - took 5+ days though. lol
Si
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Okay, I uploaded the current state of gpe to the oz 3.5.1 images directory.
Send patches to oe@handhelds.org
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I know it's not a big deal, but the website is still saying that the testing release is 3.3.5 rather than 3.5.1 - Just thought I'd mention.
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Mickeyl:
Tried to flash the GPE image on my C750, looking if I could be of any help. On reboot, after displaying the OpenZaurus logo and loading a bunch of drivers, I get a black screen and nothing happens. Am I missing something here?
>>Edited:
Building my own GPE image using OpenEmbedded as I speak. Nice piece of work! Actually, I tried building an image before using tools and info scattered all over the Net. Hardly doable, but seeing OpenEmbedded at work, it becomes quite easy at once. Just have to be very patient after typing "oemake gpe-image"
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Cortez please let us know if it works. I have a new C750 I need it for security audits and would like to be able to use all the irongeek.com tools on it. If you know of a better rom for this that will work on a C750 please let me know.
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I dare to ask, has anyone installed the Hancom apps onto the new version of OZ?
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After 9 hours of downloading, unpacking, configuring and compiling the process of building a GPE image with OpenEmbedded failed. It seems that 5Gb free space is not enough, so I guess I have to clean up my system a little
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Ahah, fixed it so I can compile OE on my system, I was using fedora core x86_64 and that seems to have some "problems" dropped back to i386 build and OE suddenly starts working as expected.
Have to try x86_64 again when FC3 is released.
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Ok, gpe on C860, I have it running, I have it calibrated correctly. I deleted the /etc/xcalibration.conf file and restarted X. This meant the X version of calibration ran and correctly calibrated the screen. My mouse now works :-)
The keymap doesnt contain any fn+ keys.
When I rotate to Normal orientation I lose the matchbox bar at the bottom of
the screen, I am guessing it is being bumped off the screen by the resize.
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I am just thinking aloud here to help others, here is what I changed the /etc/X11/Xinit.d/11zaurus file to to get orientation working the right way round for the C860
#!/bin/sh
if [ -z "`which chkhinge`" ]; then
# probably not a zaurus
exit 0
fi
chkhinge -e
if [ $? = 12 ]; then
xrandr -o right
fi
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I set up a feed from my current ipk dir:
http://admin.di.fc.ul.pt/~bsantos/feed/ (http://admin.di.fc.ul.pt/~bsantos/feed/)
In case anyone's interested I have an opie based image with the following:
- No PIM
- bash (resolvconf needs it, though I still didn't check if it was working now)
- opie-aqpkg instead of package manager (stuff to sd wasn't working )
- wireless applet
- subapplet
I'm willing to try to build images to anyone needing a special set of apps in a base rom.
c ya.
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I am just thinking aloud here to help others, here is what I changed the /etc/X11/Xinit.d/11zaurus file to to get orientation working the right way round for the C860
#!/bin/sh
if [ -z "`which chkhinge`" ]; then
# probably not a zaurus
exit 0
fi
chkhinge -e
if [ $? = 12 ]; then
xrandr -o right
fi
Great work XorA
Have you got a Nand image for the C860 that us "less evolved" users can install
.Clive
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Hmmm, I had forgotten about NAND's
Trouble is now in my hacking I have made other probably detrimental changes to the ROM. I'd prefer to work on feeding the changes back into OE and have those guys do updated packages. Trouble is I only work on this in spare 5 mins here and there while I do my real job :-)
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In my fondest dreams I would love to have a rom for the C750 that has all of the irongeek.com tools preinstalled and working.
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Hmmm, I had forgotten about NAND's
Trouble is now in my hacking I have made other probably detrimental changes to the ROM. I'd prefer to work on feeding the changes back into OE and have those guys do updated packages. Trouble is I only work on this in spare 5 mins here and there while I do my real job :-)
But I like quick and dirty fixes It may be weeks before we get a new build.
But never mind
..Clive
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Would also like to see the QPE fix for the C860. I tried the current version (bit of a daft move for a non teccy) but as well as whetting my appettite for the qpe image, my results prompted a question.
Why do I get different reflashing results dependant upon the previous rom??? As an example (and there are others) installing the qpe image after pdaxrom, I get correct screen orientation but no touch screen reaction at all (Though the system IS NOT frozen, as the apps still respond to keyboard). However after 3.3.5 or 3.5.1 opie, ohe orientation and display are screwed, but the touchscreen is working.
Probably not really the right place for this question, and I realise either way that QPE on the 860 wont work yet...
oh yeah, I remember, I was hear to say 'me too' in favour of a working version ;-)
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In my fondest dreams I would love to have a rom for the C750 that has all of the irongeek.com tools preinstalled and working.
Read openembedded.org and subscribe oe@handhelds.org. The wiki is full of information how to get wet with the OpenEmbedded build system. Check our over 1700 examples of .oe files and add .oe files for your missing tools. Look at meta/opie-image.oe and meta/opie-collections.inc and see how to easily modify it to get customized root file systems.
OE can make your dream come true if you're not shy to put some effort (read: work) into it.
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does anyone know if the kernel with OZ 3.5.1 addresses the PXA250 cache bug?
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I am not having much luck with OE 3.5.1.
I installed the GPE version with 24-8 split in a 5000D. It is very slow. Text editor and wireless work ok. The sketch editor doesn't. Rosetta was sort of working but the trainer wasn't, so I found the rosetta update on the wiki and installed that. Now rosetta doesn't work. I tried to install dillo but the install fails. I've also been trying to use Tcl/Tk and the Tcl part works fine. Tk has strange behaviour. If I create a canvas widget, it works fine and I can create objects in it. However if I create a label or button widget the Zaurus crashes.
Is this a RAM issue? Will 32-0 be better?
Felipe
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does anyone know if the kernel with OZ 3.5.1 addresses the PXA250 cache bug?
if anyone else wanted to know...
reply from Mickey Lauer from the OZ mailing list
> > > >Does the new OZ 3.5.1's kernel address the pxa250 cache bug issue?
> >
> > Yes. The cache errata is turned on on the poodle and corgi kernels.
> >
>The cache errata is turned on means it delivers a slower but reliably
>working kernel. If you have a pxa255 kernel you rather want to have a
>kernel without the cache errata being turned on.
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I'm not a moron, but for some reason the oz rom isn't flashing
I own a Z SL-5500 and I'm trying to flash the gre version
I downloaded
http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstabl...gpe-image.jffs2 (http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.1/sl5000,sl5500/gpe-image.jffs2)
and
http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstabl...00/zImage-32-32 (http://www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.1/sl5000,sl5500/zImage-32-32)
renamed gpe-image.jffs2 to initrd.bin and zImage-32-32 to zImage
copied them to a vfat 16 meg CF card, slid it into the Z.. switch it to replace battery, pressed C then D then pushed the full reset button. The mail light and the power light come on, but only for a second and go back off. On the open zaurus site it says this indicates files not being found. I checked, and zImage and initrd.bin are both on the cf card, in the room directory.
Any ideas?
Thanks
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the 64-0 kernel is ok on my sl 5500.but how can i sync with gpe and evolution?
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It's great for a first OE release, but I'd realy like to see totaly revamped automatic card mounting and a totaly redone package manager in the GPE version. In this day and age, you just shouldn't have to manualy mount a card (or be totaly unable to mount them like me) and you shouldn't have to install packages from the command line or run extra programs like ipkg-link to make them work.
With the inability to mount cards or install software through the graphical installer, this release is just useless eye candy for me.
Mickey, don't get me wrong, I know it's the first OE release AND your first GPE release and given that, it's awsome. You guy's have done GREAT work, and tommorrow I'm going to give the Opie version a go. I just wish I could use GPE. It's just so beautiful. I'm realy looking forward to 3.5.2.
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Bluey, Your feed still up?? I am having a heck of a time installing anything???
Also, is there a way to install an ipkg from CF card???
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Well, to be honest, last time I checked there were even less people working on GPE than are working on Opie, so I don't expect things to improve very fast...
... now if some of the pdaXrom folks would join the GPE team (after all, it's X, guys!), that would rock.
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Well, after a few problems (including being convinced for almost a day that I'd bricked my Z), I have successfully flashed the Opie image. There are a ton of little things that annoy me but there is one major improvement that just makes it 1000% worthwhile:
The Medium Mount control panel allows me to tell Opie to scan only specific subdirectories for media files. It means that when I insert my CF card loaded with complete HTML references for Python, Qt and DOM, I don't have to wait close to three minutes before I can proceed with my work. Another benefit is that my Documents tab is no longer cluttered with hundreds of files I don't care about.
This makes a huge difference for me and makes my Zaurus orders of magnitude more useable. The UI for this feature is not very elegant, of course, but I still feel absolutely extatic about it. Thanks guys!
z.
P.S. Sorry if anyone has written about it already, I'm just really excited
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Can anyone give a statement about the differences between the GPE for the 7xx/8xx series and pdaXrom?
It seems to me that a lot of the PIM apps that are or will be porrted for the GPE versions would be nice to have on pdaXrom, and many of the powerful X11 apps ported for pdaXrom would work on the GPE. Is there a need to recompile in either direction?
In the default image for the GPE, what PIM apps are available? I have tried to find a listing of the contents of the GPE image, but have not been successful.
Would be nice to heear your perspective on pdaXrom/GPE application interoperability. Thanks!
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It seems to me that a lot of the PIM apps that are or will be porrted for the GPE versions would be nice to have on pdaXrom, and many of the powerful X11 apps ported for pdaXrom would work on the GPE. Is there a need to recompile in either direction?
Sometimes, OZ doesn't like the control files in the pdaXrom ipks (this is an easy fix, but it requires taking the ipk to pieces). The other possible issue for OZ is the possible dependencies (I'm not sure whether all are available yet).
PdaXrom has a greater problem in that OZ is linked against libc2.3, while pdaXrom is still using libc2.2. This means that without LD_LIBRARY_PATH trickery (which I'm told should work) the OZ apps simply won't run on pdaXrom.
Simon
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I have flashed my SL-5500 about 50 times so I know how it goes...but i just can't get ANY version of OZ 3.5.1 to work !!!
When i do a RESET+C+D - Lights come on for about 30 secs then that's it.
If i boot the 5500 i get an OZ banner at the top, but a shedload of lines scroll past until it eventually stops and tells me that my existing ext2 partition cannot be used.
I flashed back to TKC2.0 and all is well.
Any ideas ??
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30 secs means only the kernel gets flashed - no wonder that the OZ kernel doesn't want to work with some arbitrary initrd.bin because it expects different things.
You either didn't rename the initrd.bin properly or got a corrupt download or a couple of bad blocks on your CF or something along those lines.
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I managed to work out what was going wrong.
The images would not flash over my current setup. I flashed with an Ospack, then with OZ 3.5.1 and it worked fine. I tried this with a couple of other ROMs with same results.
Flashed back to my original setup and it failed again *shrug*
Anyways, after playing with OZ3.5.1 for a while I've gone back to my original setup - I'm not saying it's crap, it's just not right for me
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mickeyl (or anyone else),
Is there any way to install ipkg's from the CF/SD cards? I'm having so much difficulty installing anything, I thikn I'll probly go back to the Sharp Rom
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mickeyl (or anyone else),
Is there any way to install ipkg's from the CF/SD cards? I'm having so much difficulty installing anything, I thikn I'll probly go back to the Sharp Rom
I have been installing from the comand line with
ipkg install -d sd /mnt/cf/feed/I have added /mnt/card/usr/bin to my path to get at the
installed files and have been making links to installed libraries
by hand.
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@panyo:
After installing run ipkg-link ('ipkg-link mount /mnt/card' for your above example); this will create the symlinks for you. Also no need to add anything to the $PATH.
@jdralphs:
# cd /mnt/cf
# ipkg install ..... and so on
or....
assuming you have a packages file in the dir with your ipks, you can create a new feed and put the url as file:///mnt/cf, and then use the GUI package manager.
Si
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The 3.5.1 package manager is horribly flaky. Can't go wrong with a nice clean ipkg/ipkg-link combo. Any luck with the other GUI package manager that's in the feeds? (that's the older one, right?)
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Sometimes, OZ doesn't like the control files in the pdaXrom ipks (this is an easy fix, but it requires taking the ipk to pieces).
Simon,
How do the control files need to be modified? I would like to try some of the pdaXrom apps on GPE but ipkg doesn't like the .ipk files. I am assuming this is the control file issue you mentioned. Do you know what needs to be modified?
Thanks,
Rick
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Not really sure to tell the truth, I looked at it a long while back and moved on (and forgot :-)).
I am sure it's the control files though.
Look for empty lines, capitals in the app name (hmm? - perhaps - sounds familiar), etc.
Si
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Thanks. I'll try to compare the OZ ipk control files with the pdaXrom files to see if I can make them work. If I get the packages working, I'll post the steps needed here.
-Rick
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I've had lots of problems with other roms' ipks and it always seems to be an extra line in the control file (Hancom, TKC) or multi-line parameters (TKC). I don't know for sure about pdaXrom as I've never used it. Perhaps someone should submit a patch/patches to ipkg....
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Perhaps someone should submit a patch/patches to ipkg....
Hear, hear.
This would obviously be an easier solution than having to manually alter each file.
Si
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Figured I should post this here rather than a new thread.
I've been getting lockups on 3.5.1 where the screen goes to what can be described as a TV with no reception. (white noise)
A reboot seems to fix it but I have yet to nail down the exact reason why it happens.
Which leads into, where would be the best place to post a bug if I can find a reproducable one.
And lastly I have a Pretec wireless card, and to get it to connect to a AP I have to boot up without it in, put it in, then manually run udhcp. Is there something I'm missing, if I don't do it this way the Network settings will not connect properly to the AP.
These things are a lot of fun I must say. Can't wait to work out the kinks.
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Which machine?
Sounds a bit like the double reset bug on the 5500, probably not though.
Which leads into, where would be the best place to post a bug if I can find a reproducable one.
Simple search; thread title gives it away too:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...=openzaurus+bug (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=7211&hl=openzaurus+bug)
Si
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Yeah 5500, I'll search for the double-reset bug. thanks.
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fwiw, the double reset bug has been fixed in 2.4.21-cl. Maybe someone wants to port that back to 2.4.18-whatever-embedix