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Title: ZSI Name
Post by: dz on September 20, 2004, 06:18:40 pm
Ok, so as I'm making the new ZSI, I was wondering if everyone is ok with the ZSI name or if we should maybe make a new one?

zsi.org is taken.  I'm assuming we can still get zaurussoftwareindex.org, but that's rather long.  Any other ideas for a name/domain?
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: omro on September 20, 2004, 07:04:16 pm
Is it intended entirely just for Zaurii or for other embedded linux device owners to use as a central place to find apps that will run on their devices as well?

If the former, then something with Zaurus in the title makes sense.
If the latter, then something more generic would make more sense.
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: r0bin on September 20, 2004, 07:14:36 pm
zaurusindex.org

or

embeddedapps.org or somethin

if your looking for hosting i just bought some reseller hosting, (free sites = publicity <3)
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: dhns on September 20, 2004, 07:42:17 pm
Some ideas:

zaurusversiontracker.org (could conflict with versiontracker.com and is a little long)
zaurus-software.org (.net?)
z-soft.org or .net
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: freizugheit on September 21, 2004, 03:20:48 am
How about zsp.org for Zaurus Surfers' Paradise.
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: omro on September 21, 2004, 03:39:21 am
Following up on my earlier post, I definitely think it should be more generic in name, not mentioning Zaurus at all, and concentrate on being the future repository of all linux embedded apps, be they for the Zaurus, Yopy, etc and all the hopefully future devices to come, which might not have Zaurus branding, as they probably won't be from Sharp.

A link from the ZUG to it, should be enough to get the Zaurus users to go there, regardless of the name of it.
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: Hrw on September 21, 2004, 04:25:48 am
It should be more general - OpenZaurus 3.5.1 is released, Familiar 0.8 will be released, OpenSimpad 0.9 etc.. - all builded using OpenEmbedded so packages nearly same (some have misc changes for MACHINE).

Creating "Zaurus only" site can 'kill' it in some time - making it more general (with info which distro has it, for which machine it is etc) will get more users to it.
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: jamesm on September 21, 2004, 06:32:15 am
embeddedapps seems like the best bet so far, nice work r0bin
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: coolass on September 21, 2004, 09:25:46 am
 LHE (Linux handheld Embedded) LHE.org Since linux is the core platform and it's targeted primarily for handheld devices,Simpad included, and the odvious it's embedded. One more thought is LEHA short for Linux Embedded Handheld Applications.
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: dhns on September 21, 2004, 09:54:35 am
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One more thought is LEHA short for Linux Embedded Handheld Applications.
LeHAT = Linux Embedded Handheld Application Tracker

... a pun on RedHat.

-- hns
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: coolass on September 21, 2004, 09:57:20 am
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One more thought is LEHA short for Linux Embedded Handheld Applications.
LeHAT = Linux Embedded Handheld Application Tracker

... a pun on RedHat.

-- hns
NIce one. Hey BTW I'm sending you a P.M.
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: technojunkie on September 22, 2004, 01:24:52 pm
I would go for something like the LHE idea then set up common and machine specific feeds.
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: r0bin on September 22, 2004, 01:26:09 pm
If it was embeddedapps then you could also offer other software for different embedded devices on the site. I dont know wether he wants to do a linux only site, or a zaurus only site, but embeddedapps is the most generic term i can think of lol.
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: dz on September 22, 2004, 08:05:00 pm
Ok, so what you guys are proposing is to have a site that's much more than just a ZSI.  You want a site that's a repository for all things embedded?

That's interesting, and definately possible.  Would I need to ask what kind of PDA a certain software is made for than when you enter it into the DB, or does that not matter as long as you're using the same os?
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: zack on September 22, 2004, 08:13:22 pm
How about ZVault or ZaurusVault?
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: freizugheit on September 22, 2004, 09:55:36 pm
How about Linux Embedded Devices?
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: jamesm on September 23, 2004, 07:26:09 am
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Ok, so what you guys are proposing is to have a site that's much more than just a ZSI.  You want a site that's a repository for all things embedded?

That's interesting, and definately possible.  Would I need to ask what kind of PDA a certain software is made for than when you enter it into the DB, or does that not matter as long as you're using the same os?
I think perhaps the ability for the software developer to be able to specify which handhelds it was designed for/was tested for would be an advantage.
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: ludovicus on November 09, 2004, 05:07:35 am
hmm, how bout a mapping a bunch of names, and put up the results in a poll.

my 2cents
generally speaking "branding" and the internet usually follow 2 simple rules.
1. try to limit your brand to 2 syllables
2. limit the number of constanents to an absolute minimum.
exception is if your name needs to be big, but you use an acronym.

we know it's linux so how about using penguin zoology>  rookery, nest,

types of penguins, King, Gentoo(taken), little blue penguin?lbp(smallest penguin?)

movie theme angle:  
How about a penguin that looks like yoda?  Zoda, Software for zaurus, i have!hmm, hmm  

non z names
Emsource
emdb
emfeed
moembed
uniteos
pimpware
Motusembd

random names
Uberdb
zoftware
zware
Zipk

howabout names that have nothing to do with linux/software/computers
roninblade
butterkicks
sweetpacket
minibig
quikfix
buzzkila
size1
sikred
nuhit(newhit)
bluelimit
tastyburger
icechili
veggiemeat

any animals anybody identifies with?  
bull
penguin(obvious)
tiger
monkey
sapien

motto?
peace
lu

ps.  this is, if there is was a reason to have a zug meeting.  or call it a zug party near you.    Unless this is a private venture, please excuse my enthusiasm.  libations tend to motivate creativity.
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: _Psycho on November 09, 2004, 09:54:17 am
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Ok, so what you guys are proposing is to have a site that's much more than just a ZSI.  You want a site that's a repository for all things embedded?

That's interesting, and definately possible.  Would I need to ask what kind of PDA a certain software is made for than when you enter it into the DB, or does that not matter as long as you're using the same os?
dz yo might want to do a sub categories then something like:
manufacturer -> sub model

sharp -> Select models (SL-6000, CL-3000)
HP -> H6300
Yopy -  YP3700
Simpad - xxxx

So peoples could select in search
'I want apps for HP devices, for familiar'
'I want apps for CL-3000 for openzaurus'
'I want apps for SL-5000 for Sharp Rom and cacko ROM'

Well soemthing like that I guess, except if someone see better than the 'manufacturer'.


For the domain name i dont know, I like vault (ZVault that someone said). Maybe thats could be like EVault (sure is taken) or LEVault (Linux Embedded Vault).
LESoft.org. LHEsoft, LHEVault whatver is not 'bad'
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: raybert on November 09, 2004, 05:54:49 pm
back to the original topic for a moment...

I like   ZUGSI

(Zaurus User Group Software Index; pronounced ZUG-see)

The domain is available too (with all TLDs): www.zugsi.com

~ray
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: dz on November 09, 2004, 06:16:57 pm
Psycho:  that feature is already built in   When a user registers an account, they will be able to chose their base model.  Then they will have the option of either red-lighting each software that's not meant for their model, or just flat out not showing any software not meant.
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: offroadgeek on November 09, 2004, 08:27:03 pm
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back to the original topic for a moment...

I like   ZUGSI

(Zaurus User Group Software Index; pronounced ZUG-see)

The domain is available too (with all TLDs): www.zugsi.com

~ray
actually, dz and I have been talking to sven (owner/creator of the original zsi) and he's agreed to let us put the new zsi2 site where the current zsi lives...basically replace the zsi with zsi2.

this is great news, because the current zsi is already well known and bookmarked.

thanks for the great suggestion though!!!
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: _Psycho on November 10, 2004, 09:40:27 am
thats, or a simple mirror, mirror can be good if 1 site goes down
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: offroadgeek on November 10, 2004, 03:59:21 pm
definitely mirroring is a good thing...

back to the name... dz and I were chatting last night... and I think it's agreed that the site name shouldn't have the name "zaurus" in it.  the goal of the site is to start with zaurus apps/roms, then grow into a bigger embedded linux site.

sven had came up with the name 'embedded linux software index' a while ago, but unfortunately elsi.org is taken.

I know that the domain name isn't everything, but we're trying to brand this site, as it will eventually be a part of the overall non-profit organization.

that said, many of the domain names for the names suggested have been taken, but I think these two are still available:

embeddedapps.org
lehat.org

any more thoughts on these two names?  any other name suggestions?  

thanks all!
Title: ZSI Name
Post by: zenyatta on November 16, 2004, 07:43:39 am
How about

zaurusgoodies
handheldgoodies
hanheldlinuxgoodies
hlgoodies
hungrypenguin
stuffyourzaurus (just kidding)
eldorado (Embedded Linux dorado - call me whacky)
ipkheaven
ipkindex

Regarding "eldorado", the Spanish article "el" can be used with any noun of the male genus so the possibilities are wider.

My personal favourite is hungrypenguin: my Zaurus always seems to be begging for new applications & capabilities

z.