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Title: Zbedic
Post by: anonuk on October 21, 2004, 07:25:13 pm
firstly, thank you for whoever coded/compiled this for the zaurus - the wikipedia dictionary has won me countless arguments :-)

Would it be possible to make the scrolling apply to the definition rather than the word list? that way you could scroll down a definition without using the stylus or touchscreen. (and also with the jogdial in tablet mode).

Also, if there was more space for the definition or it could be shown in full screen without the word list - it would be much easier to read long definitions or wikipedia articles.

I know there is little chance any coders (i have no idea where to start) would feel like making these minmal changes to perfect zbedic,but maybe someone has some time on their hands - and i seem to remember the zbedic maintainer/coders frequented this forum.

Also, is there a chance of a version for the pdaxrom?

Thanks in advance....
Title: Zbedic
Post by: rafm on November 13, 2004, 04:57:34 pm
This annoyed me too, so I made the changes and submitted a patch. You can find it at: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?f...673&atid=464154 (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1062313&group_id=51673&atid=464154)

Unfortunately none of the developers seems to be still involved in the project, so nobody can add the patch to the main distribution. At the moment, you have to patch the sources and recompile to have those changes working.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: ken on November 13, 2004, 05:56:36 pm
What I'd like is a larger unicode font so I can see it easier on my 6000 without having to use the magnified mode!
Title: Zbedic
Post by: anonuk on November 13, 2004, 09:29:43 pm
Gonna try and patch it myself but never really compiled on the zaurus before and I dont have a linux machine as my computer is being repaired. Any chance someone could send me a patched binary or an ipk?
Title: Zbedic
Post by: guylhem on November 14, 2004, 01:29:15 pm
Got it compiled on externe.net/zaurus/dictionnary
It's working like a charm. Put it on /opt/Qtopia/bin
Title: Zbedic
Post by: anonuk on November 14, 2004, 06:13:05 pm
thanks a lot, its made the zbedic wikipedia infinitely more useful on my 860 :-)
Title: Zbedic
Post by: rafm on November 15, 2004, 03:55:04 am
Find attached to this post an 'ipk' with the patched zbedic. There is also one more addition to the patched version: it is now possible to switch layout of worlist and description boxes between horizontal and vertical. This should be useful for higher resolutions.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: ken on November 15, 2004, 03:58:22 pm
As wonderful as I think your patches will be, .9.1-1 can be installed in sd, while your version insists it must be installed in the main memory.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: rafm on November 16, 2004, 07:56:30 am
I will look into it.

BTW, once I saw guidelines what is required for an application to be installed on a CF or SD card. Could anybody give me a link to that HOWTO?

Thanks
Title: Zbedic
Post by: TimW on November 16, 2004, 09:57:46 am
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BTW, once I saw guidelines what is required for an application to be installed on a CF or SD card. Could anybody give me a link to that HOWTO?
I don't know where the howto is (I wish I did because I need it, too) but the usual reason for SD/CF installs failing is when the ipk tries to create symbolic links on them. The default file systems they use doesn't support symlinks and I know from personal experience that qmake/tmake likes to create dlls with multiple symlinks pointing to them.

If anyone knows anything else which breaks CF/SD installation or knows where the howto is, I'd be grateful to know too.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: rafm on November 17, 2004, 04:25:54 am
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... but the usual reason for SD/CF installs failing is when the ipk tries to create symbolic links on them. ...
Symbolic links are not the reason for failure when installing zbedic on CS/SD. I've checked the IPK and there are not sym links. It must be something else. But since the discussion is going off topic, I will post my question on the QTopia development forum.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: maslovsky on November 18, 2004, 10:23:43 am
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Find attached to this post an 'ipk' with the patched zbedic. There is also one more addition to the patched version: it is now possible to switch layout of worlist and description boxes between horizontal and vertical. This should be useful for higher resolutions.
Since you're now kinda maintaining the zbedic, can we ask you for more features?  

How about adding a Back/Forward navigation buttons?  I realised that it would be convinient when browseing dictionaries, which include hyperkinks, like wikipedia...

Thanks
Title: Zbedic
Post by: rafm on November 19, 2004, 03:54:19 am
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How about adding a Back/Forward navigation buttons?  I realised that it would be convinient when browseing dictionaries, which include hyperkinks, like wikipedia...
Forward / backward navigaction might be easy to add using history list.  Please post your RFE on SorceForge project page: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bedic/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/bedic/)
Title: Zbedic
Post by: guylhem on November 20, 2004, 01:26:24 pm
Maybe you can post future patches and versions on sf.net ?
Title: Zbedic
Post by: rafm on November 21, 2004, 11:58:46 am
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Maybe you can post future patches and versions on sf.net ?
Yes, if admin gives me rights to do that.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: xjqian on December 09, 2004, 01:53:13 am
I can't install the 0.9.3 version from the sf.net on my 6000L. Does anybody else has this problem?
Title: Zbedic
Post by: rafm on December 09, 2004, 04:02:14 am
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I can't install the 0.9.3 version from the sf.net on my 6000L. Does anybody else has this problem?
Could you give more details:
* What is the error message?
* Have you tried installing previous versions?
* What is your OS version?
* Did you try to install it on CF/SD or in internal memory?
Title: Zbedic
Post by: xjqian on December 11, 2004, 07:08:57 am
OS: stock sharp 1.12
previous version: 0.9.2-3_arm works perfectly
problem: the common problem of not showing up in the "install packages".

I'm new to linux. still learning how to use the shell ipkg command.

btw, Mod, this thread should be merged with the other Zbedic thread.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: rafm on December 11, 2004, 03:40:05 pm
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OS: stock sharp 1.12
previous version: 0.9.2-3_arm works perfectly
problem: the common problem of not showing up in the "install packages".

I'm new to linux. still learning how to use the shell ipkg command.
Using the console: "cd" to the directory, where zbedic_0.9.3-0_arm.ipk is located and:

> su
> /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/ipkg install zbedic_0.9.3-0_arm.ipk

If this fails, please send me (rafm at users.sourceforge.net) your zbedic_0.9.3-0_arm.ipk file and ipkg script (you can find it in /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/ipkg).
Title: Zbedic
Post by: ken on December 11, 2004, 07:39:45 pm
>OS: stock sharp 1.12

>I'm new to linux. still learning how to use the shell ipkg command.

why not use the graphic add/remove software in the settings menu?
Title: Zbedic
Post by: g333 on December 23, 2004, 04:58:15 am
Can you add rotate to the ipk? I have a SL-C3000 but the Zbedic 0.9.3-1 doesn't rotate
Title: Zbedic
Post by: g333 on December 23, 2004, 10:15:08 am
Please
Title: Zbedic
Post by: rafm on December 23, 2004, 03:27:45 pm
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Can you add rotate to the ipk? I have a SL-C3000 but the Zbedic 0.9.3-1 doesn't rotate
Do you mean that zbedic should change layout orientation (horizontal / vertical) when the display of a Zaurus is flipped to the other side? Or the layout orientation does not change after you change it in the settings dialog?
Title: Zbedic
Post by: g333 on December 24, 2004, 11:03:10 am
I use a SL-C3000 so the program runs in the wrong orientation (-90 degrees) when I'm using the keyboard. Having the screen on it's side is not too cool and I haven't got a copy of Linux to start playing with source code yet.

If I want to edit programs for the Zaurus SL-C3000 what software will I need? Can I get everything for free or do I have to spend a bit?

Thanks.

Have a great Christmas!  

Regards,

Glen
Title: Zbedic
Post by: rafm on December 26, 2004, 07:31:23 am
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I use a SL-C3000 so the program runs in the wrong orientation (-90 degrees) when I'm using the keyboard.
I don't have SL-C3000, so I can not test it. Qtopia should handle rotation automatically.  

Do you have also this problem with other applications, or only with zbedic? When you launch zbedic when in "keyboard" mode, is the oriantation correct or rotated 90 degrees? Then, when you switch to "stylus" mode, does the orientation change or remain the same?

Merry Christmas!
Title: Zbedic
Post by: g333 on December 26, 2004, 12:56:53 pm
Yes, quite a few programs and games are rotated when I start them and they can't be rotated.

I think the programmers just miss the line of code needed to rotate the program.

Glen
Title: Zbedic
Post by: nmos on December 26, 2004, 03:30:24 pm
Is it possible to change the search path for new dictionaries?
Title: Zbedic
Post by: g333 on December 26, 2004, 04:52:03 pm
Nmos, just hit the search for new dictionaries button and the ZBEDic should find any dictionary you can use. I think everything is automatic and you don't need to change the search path. If the ZBEDic doesn't like the dictionaries you have the selection boxes will be in gray or a message will pop up.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: nmos on December 26, 2004, 05:11:12 pm
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Nmos, just hit the search for new dictionaries button and the ZBEDic should find any dictionary you can use. I think everything is automatic and you don't need to change the search path. If the ZBEDic doesn't like the dictionaries you have the selection boxes will be in gray or a message will pop up.

I'm actually trying to limit the search path so it doesn't take as long to find the dictionaries and doesn't come up with so many false hits (lots of files under /mnt/card/debroot/proc etc.).
Title: Zbedic
Post by: g333 on December 26, 2004, 05:47:08 pm
Use ZEditor
home/zaurus/Settings/zbedic.config

You can set

active-dictionaries =


Is that what you want?

Glen
Title: Zbedic
Post by: g333 on December 26, 2004, 05:50:41 pm
Or maybe someone needs to play with the code from

home/QtPalmtop/bin/zbedic

BTW I really new to this and haven't figured out how to edit source code in XP yet.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: g333 on December 26, 2004, 06:51:05 pm
I think I found a way to fix the rotation problem but I need a little help. How do I remove the line
OnlyWithDisplay=640x480/144dpi,480x640/144dpi

from the _7x009rotate.desktop file
under /home/QtPalmtop/apps/Settings

I think if I remove this line that all the software with different type of resolutions will finally come up the right way.  

ZEditor didn't work
Title: Zbedic
Post by: rafm on December 27, 2004, 10:30:53 am
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I'm actually trying to limit the search path so it doesn't take as long to find the dictionaries and doesn't come up with so many false hits (lots of files under /mnt/card/debroot/proc etc.).
zbedic uses Qtopia method call 'Global::findDocuments' to search for dictionary files. As far as I know, there is no method to limit search to selected directories for this method call.

You seem to have non-standard rom image and this is may be causing the problems. Such non-standard rom should probably have 'Global::findDocuments' modified to search only in directories that may contain document files.

Other solution would be to remove *.dic pattern from zbedic MIME, so that zbedic would recognize only compressed *.dic.dz  dictionary files. However some people may still be using .dic format of dictionary files and may be not too happy about such change.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: bluedevils on December 27, 2004, 11:14:28 am
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I think I found a way to fix the rotation problem but I need a little help. How do I remove the line
OnlyWithDisplay=640x480/144dpi,480x640/144dpi

from the _7x009rotate.desktop file
under /home/QtPalmtop/apps/Settings

I think if I remove this line that all the software with different type of resolutions will finally come up the right way.  

ZEditor didn't work
are you sure you are not in 320x240 mode?  If you tap hold on the icon, do you get the option to turn off magnified mode?  Magnified mode will not rotate.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: rafm on December 27, 2004, 02:13:25 pm
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I think I found a way to fix the rotation problem but I need a little help. How do I remove the line
OnlyWithDisplay=640x480/144dpi,480x640/144dpi

from the _7x009rotate.desktop file
under /home/QtPalmtop/apps/Settings
You can try posting a more general question, refering to all applications that do not handle rotation properly, in one of the development forums.  I checked Qtopia documentation but I could not find anything that would explain how rotation should be handled in applications.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: g333 on December 28, 2004, 11:44:08 pm
Ramf good idea and Bluedevils thank you. Now I understand! (^-^)

How to fix all the misrotated programs for the SL-C3000

*Go to the icon desktop
*Hold your pen on the program icon
*If there is something like VGA (480x640) written
 uncheck the box and the program should start up the right way (^-^)

The program might have a few text size or length problems but at least it is around the right way.

Glen Charles Rowell
Title: Zbedic
Post by: g333 on December 29, 2004, 02:09:09 am
...the next problem I have is that now 4 of the icons in the toolbar are tiny.  I might see if I can edit them and put them back into the file.  The copy, paste and settings icons are perfect.

If it's not too difficult could someone add text file support to the ZBEDic.
Title: Zbedic
Post by: g333 on January 09, 2005, 11:12:56 pm
Is the source code from this program a lot different from the one on the Zaurus when you buy it?