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Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: zaurian on December 03, 2004, 12:28:37 am
From this following page, I found there is a serial port on SL-C3000:

http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=1537 (http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=1537)

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Does anyone know the pinout and the plug for using this serial port?
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: TRIsoft on December 03, 2004, 08:53:20 am
Sorry, but if i read it right, it's just a guess from the writer.

The port behind the cover looks, tastes and smells like the
well known SHARP I/O port, BUT it is only for service purposes
(JTAG and stuff).
Don't remove the cover, don't try USB or serial cables on it.
The Zaurus won't turn on with a cable inserted.

More info in our manual :
Download english SL-C3000 manual (http://www.trisoft.de/en_c3000howto.htm)

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: mammothrept on December 06, 2004, 09:25:08 pm
I was looking at a serial port to USB cable over the weekend that was usable with Garmin GPSs.  I've been using an SL-C3000 with a USB hub, two USB keyboards and an IRiver IHP-120 for external storage and these work out of the box.  Would a USB to serial cable require special drivers or recompiling the kernel?  USB mice seem to be of no use on a Zaurus (or has someone found a way to do that?).
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: zaurian on January 30, 2005, 01:26:12 am
I saw somebody can use the port as /dev/ttyS0 at this thread: https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=9843&st=0 (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=9843&st=0)

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Just to let everyone know, the alternate solution is to use the serial cable for the SL-C5500 (et al). I can confirm that this works with the SL-C3000 (the serial port is /dev/ttyS0).

I want to use SL-C3000  to send command  to RS-232 port of a controller device.
I need confirmation that this port can do RS-232 communication.
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: gjarboni on January 30, 2005, 11:10:27 am
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Sorry, but if i read it right, it's just a guess from the writer.

The port behind the cover looks, tastes and smells like the
well known SHARP I/O port, BUT it is only for service purposes
(JTAG and stuff).
Don't remove the cover, don't try USB or serial cables on it.
The Zaurus won't turn on with a cable inserted.

More info in our manual :
Download english SL-C3000 manual (http://www.trisoft.de/en_c3000howto.htm)

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
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<Me takes out his RS-232 breakout box and multimeter>
Okay, with the serial cable described below (C?-170? whatever) my C3000 can talk to my PC. Using minicom, I've sent over 2Mb of files at 115200 bps with Zmodem with no errors. The actual speed was well over 6kilobytes per second. Remember when that was fast.  

Now, looking at my mulitmeter, I see that the Zaurus is outputing on the CTS & DSR lines. It's voltage is low (2.8V) and technically out of spec, but I believe that's common among handhelds. For anyone who wants more info on the RS-232 spec, click [a href=\"http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_RS232.html]here[/url].
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: gjarboni on January 30, 2005, 11:12:51 am
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I want to use SL-C3000  to send command  to RS-232 port of a controller device.
I need confirmation that this port can do RS-232 communication.
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This is going to depend on how picky your device is. Most likely it will work, but no guarantees.
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: bobsandefur on April 13, 2005, 02:45:32 pm
Confused a bit I am (My c3000 arrived today)

Can you use the port on the back of zaurus as a serial port TRIsoft says no
I think gjarboni says yes

I tried my serialIO GPS on  the c3000 serial port and the power light stayed off. On  my SL5600 power light comes on.

So is it an umpowered port?

I just want a simple GPS connection on c3000- An suggestions?
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: omega on April 14, 2005, 04:34:08 am
either explore the socket yourself or get a supported usb - serial cable... there is a document detailing the 5000 io port which is the same as the c860 port which shows what pins do what.
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: jpmatrix on April 26, 2005, 08:09:20 am
what about trying the Bluetooth adapter for Garmin GPS found on that great site:

http://pc-mobile.net/bta.htm (http://pc-mobile.net/bta.htm)

and connecting it via a Zaurus BT adapter........
that could be great isn't it ?



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I was looking at a serial port to USB cable over the weekend that was usable with Garmin GPSs.  I've been using an SL-C3000 with a USB hub, two USB keyboards and an IRiver IHP-120 for external storage and these work out of the box.  Would a USB to serial cable require special drivers or recompiling the kernel?  USB mice seem to be of no use on a Zaurus (or has someone found a way to do that?).
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Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: Meanie on April 26, 2005, 09:39:19 am
I am using a USB mouse on my C3000
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: TRIsoft on April 26, 2005, 11:17:19 am
Hi everyone,

we need to update the first statement.
It looks like the port IS able to work with Zaurus
serial cables. Don't know if we were too stupid at
our first tests in november or if SHARP changed
something.

We'll check it again by ourself, but many users
reported to us that the serial cables work with
the SL-C3000 / SL-C1000 series.

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: agosine on June 27, 2005, 02:09:48 pm
I have a SerialIO cable that I used with my old 5500 (Zaurus to 9-pin connector).  Anyone know if it will work with a C1000?  I'm getting a unit from Japan, but if it doesn't work that will put a damper on any serial connection to Cisco equipment.  I'd rather not spend more buying new cables.  Thanks,
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: papercrane on June 27, 2005, 04:53:34 pm
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I have a SerialIO cable that I used with my old 5500 (Zaurus to 9-pin connector).  Anyone know if it will work with a C1000?  I'm getting a unit from Japan, but if it doesn't work that will put a damper on any serial connection to Cisco equipment.  I'd rather not spend more buying new cables.

See my thread on this (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=13473). I bought the SerialIO cable for my C3000 and am only getting data one-way.
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: bam on June 27, 2005, 11:55:22 pm
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Hi everyone,

we need to update the first statement.
It looks like the port IS able to work with Zaurus
serial cables. Don't know if we were too stupid at
our first tests in november or if SHARP changed
something.

We'll check it again by ourself, but many users
reported to us that the serial cables work with
the SL-C3000 / SL-C1000 series.

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan
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Whats the part number so I can order one?

Thanks'
Bam
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: AndyTiedye on June 28, 2005, 01:08:41 am
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I have a SerialIO cable that I used with my old 5500 (Zaurus to 9-pin connector).  Anyone know if it will work with a C1000?  I'm getting a unit from Japan, but if it doesn't work that will put a damper on any serial connection to Cisco equipment.  I'd rather not spend more buying new cables.  Thanks,
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I have successfully used it with a Cisco 1840 router.  The only tricky part is getting from 9-pin female
to the RJ45 that Cisco uses.  I have an adaptor that does this.  Not sure where it came from or who
made it as it has no markings on it.  I've also gotten it to work with the Cisco RJ45-to-9-pin cable
and enough other adapters to connect it to the Zaurus serial cable  (may have had a null modem
in there too).
Title: Serial Port On Sl-c3000
Post by: TRIsoft on June 28, 2005, 04:16:10 am
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Whats the part number so I can order one?
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Bam,

the serial cables for the Zaurus are:

CE-170TS (SHARP original, 9 pin female)
ZThinCableF (SerialIO type, 9 pin female)
ZThinCableM (SerialIO type, 9 pin male)

///TRIsoft

Marc Stephan