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Everything Else => Sharp Zaurus => Model Specific Forums => Distros, Development, and Model Specific Forums => Archived Forums => 6000 - Tosa => Topic started by: taronish on December 16, 2004, 02:25:43 am
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Hi everyone,
I am a brand new SL-6000L user, and everything seems to be going well, but every time I reboot the device (not suspend, but an actual reboot) it asks me for the date and time ... is this normal? What do you think the issue might be ? (For example, is there a backup battery for an internal clock that could be missing or burnt out or something?)
Should I call Sharp tech support? Please help.
Thanks!
-Paul
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Hello Paul,
My 6kL has always done the same thing for me if I'm understanding your problem correctly. I am still using the Sharp Rom that it comes out of the box with. I'm not completely sure from your question- does your Z actually lose it's time and date or does the time/date program pop up still showing the correct time and date?
Whew, I just read what I just wrote and I've managed to confuse even myself! Let me approach this differently:
For me the time and date program pops up first thing after the default/splash entry screen (the one that says something like "wait 30 seconds" or some such). However even though it pops up it still has maintained the same time and date that it had prior to my reboot. Well to be more accurate it shows the correct date and the time except it seems to lose about 2 minutes during the reboot cycle. So for instance if I checked my date and time and it showed December 16, 2004 4:44am and I immediately rebooted then when the time/date program popped up right after the splash/entry screen after the reboot my date and time would read something like December 16, 2004 4:44am. But of course now the correct time and date would be December 16, 2004 4:46am. So apparently the clock does not continue to run during the actual boot process.
I haven't tried it myself but I've heard of ppl that were going on vacation etc. and were not taking their Z with them, (now WHY would anyone do that?? it's like going on vacation and not packing clothes!!), rebooting thier Z6k and after it shuts down and begins booting again they hit the hard reset button and pull the battery for storage. (If you don't do this the Z6k WILL completely drain the battery and it will forget a few of your settings.) If you chose to shut your Z down completely this way my guess is that when you booted it upon your return that it would still show the same time and date from when you shut it down and you would have to update the time and date to whatever is correct.
Now if you are just doing a normal reboot and the time and date window appears as per normal on a reboot and the time and date have reset back to it's defaults, (whatever it shows the first time we ever boot our Z's), then I believe that something is physically wrong with the unit and you probably should contact Sharp.
Having said that there is only one other thing I can think of that might produce a reboot where your Z loses its time/date completely. If the Z6k has the PC equivalent of a CMOS battery (and I'm not sure at all if it does), then you might want to make sure you have completely charged your Z, (I recommend 24hrs), before you attempt to contact Sharp.
I apologize for how mukky this post was, usually I pride myself on being clear and understandable in my posts and this one was just AWFUL!
At any rate, hope it helped! We all want your experience as a New 6000 owner here on the ZUG to be a great one so if you have any other problems or questions feel free to ask. In your families particular case I can go a step farther and say if you have questions just email me I'm not the brightest bulb on the block but if I don't know the answer I can usually point you to where you can, or if you don't mind the long distance charges you guys should have my phone number so don't hesitate to call!
Take Care,
-NeuroShock
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Yep, it's normal. And my 5600 does the same thing.
As far as the time shift/delay during reboot, most times I just hit cancel when the screen pops up. The "system" clock seems to have retained the correct setting.
On my 5600, there are/were times when the clock would have a significant shift (hours) so in that case I'd reset the clock/date with the app and then touch OK.
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mine seems to reset itself to January 1, 1970. (I think that's what it is, I'd have to reboot to confirm, which I'd rather not do)
Also, if I press (or tap) "OK" the date/time window remains on the screen and I have to manually kill it (from the console).
If I hit "cancel" or tap the "x" it goes away, but the time is still incorrect.
I think I may have done something to cause this to happen, but I'm not sure what. Either installing a package or maybe something with fb.modes (used for playing full screen movies).
As an alternative, I've taken to setting the date/time with the "date" command and trying to avoid rebooting, and try not to let it bother me too much. All of my other settings seem to be intact, so I don't think it's the internal battery.
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Ok, I appreciate this information very much. Now, I have a couple related questions, then. Is there any way to disable it asking me, but have it instead try to make a wireless connection and run ntp to update the system's clock ? I doubt ntp is installed by default but I don't imagine it should be THAT hard to compile for the Z? Maybe I should give it a whirl before I open my big mouth.
Thanks again for all your kind replies.
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There is an ntpdate program for all sharp rom Zs. I made a launch icon on my Z. Cacko roms are made with the ntpdate installed and it will update your time automatically when you connect to the net.
The time setup pops up on start is pretty much default. I'm not sure, but I do remember an old thread about something not popping up on startup when the sharp PIMs are *not* installed. I don't remember what it was. It could have been the time setup.
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Hmmm also see my other posts on installing sltools for operzaurus to save the time accross hard reboots.
Bundabrg
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There is a switch in the battery compartment that is supposed to be turned on before you put the battery in the zaurus. Not sure if it is the cause of your problems though.
Lance
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Here is a previous discussion thread on rdate and ntpdate type stuff. https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...ic=695&hl=rdate (https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=695&hl=rdate)
As for resetting to 1970, I'd agree with Lance that you should check the switch settings. Isn't 1970 the Unix epoch date?
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...but I do remember an old thread about something not popping up on startup when the sharp PIMs are *not* installed. I don't remember what it was. It could have been the time setup.
I think that was the pop up windows asking for personal information when rebooted.
If the Sharp PIM was not instaled then that window would not pop up (since the personal infomation was a part of the PIM information).
As for the time setting back to 1970 - that happens if you do a hard reset I believe.
(Battery out of compartment and back in). A soft reset on the other hand doesnt reset time time to 1970, but keeps it uptodate (except mayube for the 2 sec lag).
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you are correct nilch.