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Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: bit_bucket on February 03, 2005, 04:33:29 pm
Just came across Qtopia 2.1.1 source over on the TT site.  Looks like the had minor code changes.  Now I wonder when there ROM will be out.
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: ev1l on February 03, 2005, 07:26:51 pm
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Just came across Qtopia 2.1.1 source over on the TT site.  Looks like the had minor code changes.  Now I wonder when there ROM will be out.
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This is very, very old news. They still haven't delivered any ROMs.
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: tumnus on February 03, 2005, 08:00:16 pm
Qtopia 2.1.0 source has been out just over a month, but 2.1.1 is new, although it has still come out fairly quickly after 2.10. I'm guessing there were severe problems with 2.1.0. In any case this will only delay a ROM
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: ZDevil on May 05, 2005, 02:51:32 pm
The ROM is finally available for download!

http://www.qtopia.net/modules/users/downloads.php (http://www.qtopia.net/modules/users/downloads.php)
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: adf on May 05, 2005, 04:50:40 pm
looks like 6000 wireless is fixed! Excellent! will flash this afternoon (though I'm really looking forward to this on guylhem rom, with fastffpe and better nand partitioning)
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: Snooby on May 05, 2005, 05:14:56 pm
2.1.1 Beta ROM has been there since at least 28th Feb - is this a new one ??
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: adf on May 05, 2005, 05:43:15 pm
under known issues on the 6k it gives instructions using ifup to get wireless going. When I tried the first release the issue was there being no wireless for the 6k. Based on this, I think it might be.
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: lpotter on May 05, 2005, 07:20:42 pm
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under known issues on the 6k it gives instructions using ifup to get wireless going. When I tried the first release the issue was there being no wireless for the 6k. Based on this, I think it might be.
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the 6000 rom has been updated from the one there before.
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: adf on May 06, 2005, 02:22:00 am
I tried it briefly.  Very nice this time around (though I took the wireless on faith). I might very well spend the time to get it all setup as my standard qtopia setup (replacing my much worked on sharprom w/ fast kernel)

minor quibbles:
Background images don't scale
The partitions follow the sharp model, with a big fat home that I don't need and only 6 megs of / that I need desperately ( I doubt I can get kino/mplayer opera and kismet or wellenreiter into that space). (hence the comment re guylhem rom)
I tried to unsinstall some games to free up space through the package manager. It wanted to uninstall the things the packages depended on... ie to remove parashoot I'd have had to remove libqpe. Not really a good option.
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: samxiao on May 13, 2005, 12:05:32 pm
does Cacko team ready for this?
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: omro on May 14, 2005, 04:33:53 pm
Probably a dumb question, but can you install a new version of Qtopia over an old one, such as the one supplied with a Cx000?
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: adf on May 14, 2005, 05:47:41 pm
It install over the previous image.
on My 6k I needed to have a sharprom setup (without serious mods) to make the update work.

My solution was to restore factory state.  You should probably just try it, and only restore to factory if it is working really strangely, since there is supposedl;y a reisk in that kind of restoration.
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: ken on May 14, 2005, 05:56:00 pm
Biggest problem with this on the 5500 -- can't add any programs.
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: omro on May 14, 2005, 06:02:50 pm
Any how tos out there on how to upgrade Qtopia?
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: lpotter on May 14, 2005, 06:56:16 pm
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I tried it briefly.  Very nice this time around (though I took the wireless on faith). I might very well spend the time to get it all setup as my standard qtopia setup (replacing my much worked on sharprom w/ fast kernel)

minor quibbles:
Background images don't scale
The partitions follow the sharp model, with a big fat home that I don't need and only 6 megs of / that I need desperately ( I doubt I can get kino/mplayer opera and kismet or wellenreiter into that space). (hence the comment re guylhem rom)
I tried to unsinstall some games to free up space through the package manager. It wanted to uninstall the things the packages depended on... ie to remove parashoot I'd have had to remove libqpe. Not really a good option.
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The reason why I do not change partitions is that changing partitions is dangerous.
Although being about to install to the user directory would be good.


I have no problems uninstalling parashoot, or anything else.
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: lpotter on May 14, 2005, 07:03:20 pm
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Probably a dumb question, but can you install a new version of Qtopia over an old one, such as the one supplied with a Cx000?
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You can't really easily 'upgrade Qtopia' on the Sharp roms. I have been working on a c3000 rom though.
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: ev1l on May 15, 2005, 03:20:24 pm
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You can't really easily 'upgrade Qtopia' on the Sharp roms.
If you're interested in building an IPK you could apply on top of a Sharp/Cacko install, I'd be happy to help test. That'd make it a very attractive option, allowing you to keep the original functionality of the Sharp system (of the many improvements of Cacko) and have the Qtopia improvements as well.
Is there a formalised bug-DB system?
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: adf on May 15, 2005, 04:51:55 pm
lpotter, do you have a 6k?  
A couple of times you have said " I have no problem doing x.." when doing x has been something of a problem for me on the 6k. Admittedly some of those are user error. But have you tried the gui package manager to uninstall parashoot on the 6k?

I think I'll reflash to 2.1 play around, then back it up to try on the guylhem rom as a qtopia ui instead of 1.5 .  This way I can try the install/uninstall stuff again. Since I had problems oth ways, maybe it was me.
 
drumroll please!
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: adf on May 15, 2005, 06:42:59 pm
hmmm. some package issues on the 6k.

it does indeed install sharp stuff...  
But how do I install opera on it?


and one you probably don't know or care much about...  the zaurus nx client was written, I think, for this era openzaurus. any idea how to get it working on this rom?
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: lpotter on May 16, 2005, 12:17:00 am
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hmmm. some package issues on the 6k.

it does indeed install sharp stuff... 
But how do I install opera on it?


and one you probably don't know or care much about...  the zaurus nx client was written, I think, for this era openzaurus. any idea how to get it working on this rom?
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The package issues are issues with the actual package, whereas they were probably created to install to Sharp specific directories such as /home/zaurus
Before you install Opera, try

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ln -s /opt/Qtopia /home/QtPalmtop
ln -s /home/root /home/zaurus

As far as the  nx client.. I believe it supports only Opie.
I do know about nx, and do care..
(and I lived in Girdwood for a bit)
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: adf on May 16, 2005, 12:22:48 am
I figured it was directory stuff in the ipk, thanks

as to nx.... then it migh jus be a matter of installing the lib opie stuff that can be found on a few feeds... like cacko and zug.

very cool.

I had thougt that nx was a natural for the z.  (and siag office..but that's another story)
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: Pcghost on May 18, 2005, 02:14:48 pm
I gave this rom a shot.  I could install apps, but no matter what they would not appear on the launcher.  ipkg-link made no difference.  Additionally, the hancom apps as well as opera would flat out not launch.  The package manager it ships with is crap, way to simplistic in my opinion.  The look and feel was nice though overall.
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: adf on May 18, 2005, 02:55:49 pm
girdwood?  hangin out at alyeska? skiing? very pretty.
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: dmark on June 26, 2005, 12:52:03 pm
 
You did a very good job on this rom.
thanks
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: speculatrix on July 01, 2005, 08:31:29 am
lpotter, you mentioned about putting in compatibility libraries to allow running sharp apps... have you tried this?
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: adf on July 02, 2005, 01:27:16 am
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lpotter, you mentioned about putting in compatibility libraries to allow running sharp apps... have you tried this?
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They should run already, shouldn't they? I thoughrt that was the idea of using the buildroot he used......
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: lpetroni on July 03, 2005, 10:15:55 am
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I gave this rom a shot.  I could install apps, but no matter what they would not appear on the launcher.  ipkg-link made no difference.  Additionally, the hancom apps as well as opera would flat out not launch.  The package manager it ships with is crap, way to simplistic in my opinion.  The look and feel was nice though overall.
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Any solution for this installation/running apps problem? Althought pretty cool this ROM renders unuseless if you can't install your apps  

lpetroni
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: lpotter on July 03, 2005, 03:27:53 pm
Update to be soon.
the fix is to edit /etc/ipkg.conf
change
dest root /
to
dest / /
Then qipkg and ipkg are both happy.

You will still have to restart Qtopia, until I can update the roms there
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: _Psycho on July 04, 2005, 12:37:17 pm
Curious ljp, you going to update all the roms ? If so you think you gonna update the kernel of the c700 to fix the usb connection ? I didnt had much time recently to use my zaurus but i should use it more soon enough, just wondering  I need to sync =P
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: undrwater on July 08, 2005, 02:38:08 pm
I want to try this rom on my 6k.  

Is it possible to back up the factory default, load 2.1, and if necessary, reformat and go back to factory default, restore and be back to what I started with?

I think I've seen references to this in other posts...but nothing definate.  I'm concerned about making too many changes, cause I'm using the Z for work purposes as well as for...well....play.

Would this also work for OZ/Opie &/or OZ/Gpe?
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: adf on July 08, 2005, 04:55:19 pm
there is a link to how to backup on 6000 general discussions. thtere is also stuff at externe.net/zaurus
Title: Qtopia 2.1.1 Out
Post by: nilch on July 11, 2005, 12:09:42 pm
Any updates on the C3000/C1000 ROM's ?

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You can't really easily 'upgrade Qtopia' on the Sharp roms. I have been working on a c3000 rom though.
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