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Title: Pdaxrom Choices
Post by: apink on February 19, 2007, 11:34:33 pm
I have been away from the forums/pdaxrom and thus the cutting edge recently and am coming back confused.  I am currently running beta3, as it was 'stable' when I last flashed roms.  Now in looking over the forum I see various posts about rc121 and pdaxii13.  Are these the same rom just different variations?  Is one more stable than the other?  I believe Meanie is doing work on pdaxii13.  Is this part of pdaxrom or an offshoot?  

Thanks for clarification.
Title: Pdaxrom Choices
Post by: ScottYelich on February 19, 2007, 11:43:56 pm
I wish I could help ya... I've kinda been floating along for a while too.

I'm not sure what the last/latest/best/stable rom is for the 760.

It seems like there hasn't been a "release" for about 2 years,
although it seems there's always some new beta this or some
new number that -- there always seem to be more problems
than fixes -- from what the comments seem to indicate.

I keep.... waiting.

Perhaps one day... there will be a clear release.  Non-1.x
"beta" "rc" 3x00 only special boot loader only release.

Scott
Title: Pdaxrom Choices
Post by: Meanie on February 20, 2007, 12:31:07 am
there is pdaXrom with 2.4.x kernel and pdaXrom with 2.6.x kernel

beta1 or beta3 is the latest stable release (depending on the model)  using the 2.4.x kernel

starting beta4 and its successor r121, the kernel has been upgraded to 2.6.x
although the 2.6.x kernel is faster than 2.4.x kernel, some hardware support is not complete or missing, ie things that worked in beta1/beta3 which have a 2.4.x kernel, do not work in beta4/r121 anymore.
r121 is the current development path and work is being done to improve it and make it more stable. also, starting beta4, there is a new bootloader which renders NAND backups/restores inoperational (this will be fixed later but currently does not work)

since pdaXrom has moved to the 2.6 kernel and current work is on that branch, bugs in the older beta1/beta3 won't get fixed since all the bug fixes go into the latest release...

pdaXii13 is a branch based on the 2.4.20 kernel, ie beta3. it fixes a lot of bugs in beta3 hence pdaXii13 is equivalent to beta3+bug fixes. pdaXii13 also support the C3000 model which wasn't supported before. Tthe original intend for pdaXii13 was to support the C3000 only. later on, this has expanded to also support the C1000/C3x00 models because these models have the same base hardware and kernel as the C3000.
Title: Pdaxrom Choices
Post by: InSearchOf on February 20, 2007, 09:38:46 am
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there is pdaXrom with 2.4.x kernel and pdaXrom with 2.6.x kernel

beta1 or beta3 is the latest stable release (depending on the model)  using the 2.4.x kernel

starting beta4 and its successor r121, the kernel has been upgraded to 2.6.x
although the 2.6.x kernel is faster than 2.4.x kernel, some hardware support is not complete or missing, ie things that worked in beta1/beta3 which have a 2.4.x kernel, do not work in beta4/r121 anymore.
r121 is the current development path and work is being done to improve it and make it more stable. also, starting beta4, there is a new bootloader which renders NAND backups/restores inoperational (this will be fixed later but currently does not work)

since pdaXrom has moved to the 2.6 kernel and current work is on that branch, bugs in the older beta1/beta3 won't get fixed since all the bug fixes go into the latest release...

pdaXii13 is a branch based on the 2.4.20 kernel, ie beta3. it fixes a lot of bugs in beta3 hence pdaXii13 is equivalent to beta3+bug fixes. pdaXii13 also support the C3000 model which wasn't supported before. Tthe original intend for pdaXii13 was to support the C3000 only. later on, this has expanded to also support the C1000/C3x00 models because these models have the same base hardware and kernel as the C3000.
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Very Very well put Meanie...

Late
Title: Pdaxrom Choices
Post by: ScottYelich on February 20, 2007, 11:26:12 am
ah...  this is concise -- but you can see how someone not following closely would get buried in details.

Question / suggestion :  Is there a single web/wiki page (on pdaxrom.org?) that has a chart that shows the information from that post -- along with dl and feed locations?

Yes, I've seen bits and pieces here and there, but nothing comprehensive.

Scott
Title: Pdaxrom Choices
Post by: InSearchOf on February 20, 2007, 12:50:47 pm
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ah...  this is concise -- but you can see how someone not following closely would get buried in details.

Question / suggestion :  Is there a single web/wiki page (on pdaxrom.org?) that has a chart that shows the information from that post -- along with dl and feed locations?

Yes, I've seen bits and pieces here and there, but nothing comprehensive.

Scott
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=154796\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I dont know if you have  been watchin the current pdaxrom "traffic" but we just added more people to the team because of the scattered about of documentation.... that is one of our main focuses...

Late
Title: Pdaxrom Choices
Post by: Chero on February 20, 2007, 12:51:58 pm
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ah...  this is concise -- but you can see how someone not following closely would get buried in details.

Question / suggestion :  Is there a single web/wiki page (on pdaxrom.org?) that has a chart that shows the information from that post -- along with dl and feed locations?

Yes, I've seen bits and pieces here and there, but nothing comprehensive.

Scott
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=154796\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Copied this on my clipboard.

It will be added soon.

Chero.

Edit : InSearchOf beat me, he got here first ...
Title: Pdaxrom Choices
Post by: apink on February 20, 2007, 03:13:41 pm
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there is pdaXrom with 2.4.x kernel and pdaXrom with 2.6.x kernel

beta1 or beta3 is the latest stable release (depending on the model)  using the 2.4.x kernel

starting beta4 and its successor r121, the kernel has been upgraded to 2.6.x
although the 2.6.x kernel is faster than 2.4.x kernel, some hardware support is not complete or missing, ie things that worked in beta1/beta3 which have a 2.4.x kernel, do not work in beta4/r121 anymore.
r121 is the current development path and work is being done to improve it and make it more stable. also, starting beta4, there is a new bootloader which renders NAND backups/restores inoperational (this will be fixed later but currently does not work)

since pdaXrom has moved to the 2.6 kernel and current work is on that branch, bugs in the older beta1/beta3 won't get fixed since all the bug fixes go into the latest release...

pdaXii13 is a branch based on the 2.4.20 kernel, ie beta3. it fixes a lot of bugs in beta3 hence pdaXii13 is equivalent to beta3+bug fixes. pdaXii13 also support the C3000 model which wasn't supported before. Tthe original intend for pdaXii13 was to support the C3000 only. later on, this has expanded to also support the C1000/C3x00 models because these models have the same base hardware and kernel as the C3000.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=154731\")


Thank you for the rundown.  I think that I would try out r121 except for the NAND backup inoperational hitch.  

Quote
Copied this on my clipboard.

It will be added soon.

Chero.

Edit : InSearchOf beat me, he got here first ...

I looked here:
[a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=PdaXrom]https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=PdaXrom[/url]
and didn't see anything.  Is there a pdaxrom wiki that I am unaware of?
Title: Pdaxrom Choices
Post by: InSearchOf on February 20, 2007, 03:22:04 pm
pdaXrom.org

Late
PS. Beat you again Chero...
Title: Pdaxrom Choices
Post by: Chero on February 20, 2007, 03:22:50 pm
Quote
Quote
there is pdaXrom with 2.4.x kernel and pdaXrom with 2.6.x kernel

beta1 or beta3 is the latest stable release (depending on the model)  using the 2.4.x kernel

starting beta4 and its successor r121, the kernel has been upgraded to 2.6.x
although the 2.6.x kernel is faster than 2.4.x kernel, some hardware support is not complete or missing, ie things that worked in beta1/beta3 which have a 2.4.x kernel, do not work in beta4/r121 anymore.
r121 is the current development path and work is being done to improve it and make it more stable. also, starting beta4, there is a new bootloader which renders NAND backups/restores inoperational (this will be fixed later but currently does not work)

since pdaXrom has moved to the 2.6 kernel and current work is on that branch, bugs in the older beta1/beta3 won't get fixed since all the bug fixes go into the latest release...

pdaXii13 is a branch based on the 2.4.20 kernel, ie beta3. it fixes a lot of bugs in beta3 hence pdaXii13 is equivalent to beta3+bug fixes. pdaXii13 also support the C3000 model which wasn't supported before. Tthe original intend for pdaXii13 was to support the C3000 only. later on, this has expanded to also support the C1000/C3x00 models because these models have the same base hardware and kernel as the C3000.
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=154731\")


Thank you for the rundown.  I think that I would try out r121 except for the NAND backup inoperational hitch.  

Quote
Copied this on my clipboard.

It will be added soon.

Chero.

Edit : InSearchOf beat me, he got here first ...

I looked here:
[a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=PdaXrom]https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=PdaXrom[/url]
and didn't see anything.  Is there a pdaxrom wiki that I am unaware of?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=154815\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Sorry,

I'm collecting things in my scratch-book first,
I'll add them later. Give me two weeks for the first (non-complete) changes)

Chero.
Title: Pdaxrom Choices
Post by: Chero on February 20, 2007, 03:24:04 pm
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pdaXrom.org

Late
PS. Beat you again Chero...
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Damn, somebody's following me ....  
Title: Pdaxrom Choices
Post by: ScottYelich on February 23, 2007, 10:52:05 am
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BLAH BLAH BLAH
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I dont know if you have  been watchin the current pdaxrom "traffic" but we just added more people to the team because of the scattered about of documentation.... that is one of our main focuses...

Late
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but of course!  I look forward to it.
My Zs have been off for about a year as I have been waiting for the next *non-threatening* release.
I've seen some "releases" but they always seemed to say for "hardcore developers only" and had a lot of warnings about this and that and potential dangers -- and this is beyond the normal warnings/notices, etc.

I'm really looking forward to getting the next *stable* release on the Z and then getting Qt 4.2.2 (or later) on it so I can dev on the Z again -- I miss that.

Scott