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Model Specific Forums => Cosmo Communicator => Cosmo Communicator - CoDi => Topic started by: Sath on December 15, 2019, 05:48:06 pm
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Anyone notice how easy it is to alter settings, make calls, turn on flashlight, etc from the cover display shortly after opening the cover? My index finger seems to be at home right over the screen when holding the Cosmo open.
@Planet, maybe I don't know, make the cover screen unresponsive when the cover is open on your next update? I mean, heck, you did a good job making it pretty unresponsive with the cover closed.
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Anyone notice how easy it is to alter settings, make calls, turn on flashlight, etc from the cover display shortly after opening the cover? My index finger seems to be at home right over the screen when holding the Cosmo open.
@Planet, maybe I don't know, make the cover screen unresponsive when the cover is open on your next update? I mean, heck, you did a good job making it pretty unresponsive with the cover closed.
It's a feature, not a bug!!
(And one would think it has to act responsive, at least SOME of the time )
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Anyone notice how easy it is to alter settings, make calls, turn on flashlight, etc from the cover display shortly after opening the cover? My index finger seems to be at home right over the screen when holding the Cosmo open.
@Planet, maybe I don't know, make the cover screen unresponsive when the cover is open on your next update? I mean, heck, you did a good job making it pretty unresponsive with the cover closed.
That explains a lot.
I went to make a call and found my device was in Airplane Mode the other day. I didn't command that, but maybe this is why.
Another time, I found Location services was turned off.
Another time, the thing got really warm and power was draining fast, turns out the camera was running on the cover display. (Thanks to GSam battery monitor for finding that)
@Planet, perhaps an option to turn off the front display when the cover is open?
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Anyone notice how easy it is to alter settings, make calls, turn on flashlight, etc from the cover display shortly after opening the cover? My index finger seems to be at home right over the screen when holding the Cosmo open.
@Planet, maybe I don't know, make the cover screen unresponsive when the cover is open on your next update? I mean, heck, you did a good job making it pretty unresponsive with the cover closed.
That explains a lot.
I went to make a call and found my device was in Airplane Mode the other day. I didn't command that, but maybe this is why.
Another time, I found Location services was turned off.
Another time, the thing got really warm and power was draining fast, turns out the camera was running on the cover display. (Thanks to GSam battery monitor for finding that)
@Planet, perhaps an option to turn off the front display when the cover is open?
Yes, I've turned off the cover display for now because the phone kept going into Airplane Mode when the device was open. The cover should not be responding to taps while the device is open. Or at least make that an option!
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What are the use cases why the CODI needs to be on while cover is opened? I recall from PC's early marketing videos that the CODI would show a Planet logo for a while and they go off.
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What are the use cases why the CODI needs to be on while cover is opened? I recall from PC's early marketing videos that the CODI would show a Planet logo for a while and they go off.
Some people has suggested that it may be used as a track-pad for the main display...
Am pretty sure it doesn't have that functionality at the moment, and don't know if it is even feasible, but could be cool if it was...
But in most (normal) circumstances it would be best if it shut off as the main display shuts on (and not some time a little later, as it seems it does now).
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A minor bug, but has anyone else noticed that when location is active, its icon appears on the cover display with a line through it, as if it's been deactivated? If location is deactivated, the icon doesn't appear at all.
Meanwhile, it appears as if the data icon is on the cover display, whether data has been turned off or on, and it's always the same icon.
Since this is PC's proprietary OS, I imagine this can be sorted out.
Jake
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A minor bug, but has anyone else noticed that when location is active, its icon appears on the cover display with a line through it, as if it's been deactivated? If location is deactivated, the icon doesn't appear at all.
Meanwhile, it appears as if the data icon is on the cover display, whether data has been turned off or on, and it's always the same icon.
Since this is PC's proprietary OS, I imagine this can be sorted out.
Jake
The CODI apparently is much more advanced than people think, and have gained AI abilities. And it doesn't like location services, so it turns them off, but LOOOVES wifi/data-connections and turns them on constantly...
(Your "explanation" is probably more correct, but I think mine is more "interesting"... And my explanation might be the reason it drains so much power as well...)
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Cover Display certainly seems to have a mind of its own.
Any idea what the pink light directly above the camera means?
Jake
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What are the use cases why the CODI needs to be on while cover is opened? I recall from PC's early marketing videos that the CODI would show a Planet logo for a while and they go off.
When the Planet logo is showing, the screen can still be swiped left (features) or swiped down (settings) and accidental changes occur.
At least that's what happens on mine. I opened the cover to have a look and confirm these shenanigans.
Would love to have the option to disable the Planet logo (save a bit of energy on a device that currently has energy drain issues) and just soft-sleep the cover while the thing is opened.
(I did make that ask as part of a report to the Support Smartforum thingie, but who knows what happens)
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Hi all,
I've also been having tons of problems with the cover being active at just the
wrong times...
When you first shut an unlocked Cosmo, the display is fully active... So if
you immediately stuff it in your pocket (etc), faaaaaaaaar too often a simple
touch on the front of the Cosmo does things... calls someone, turns things
on/off, etc.
Beyond that, if you open the Cosmo, the outside screen was supposed to go to
the PC logo and deactivate. I'm now finding it does NOT. While on that screen,
you can still drag the top/sides of the screen in. Of course, that just leads
to even more unintended problems.
It really sucks to find you've been in airplane mode for the last hour of work
or that you "butt dialed" your gf and she now wants to know where you've been.
Please PC, add these fixes/options:
- TOTALLY disable outside screen sensing when the Cosmo is open.
- Provide an option to have outside screen sensing only activate after a
toggle button or silver button press.
Thanks,
PJS
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It really sucks to find you've been in airplane mode for the last hour of work
or that you "butt dialed" your gf and she now wants to know where you've been.
Own experience?
Already filed a bug at PC for that issue. I have first noticed Wifi disabling randomly, some days later I got the cause...
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My mum also reported the issue with airplane mode randomly activating. Let's hope PC fixes this issue in the next update
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My mum also reported the issue with airplane mode randomly activating. Let's hope PC fixes this issue in the next update
Btw, is this a CoDi issue or Android issue? 'Cause on my current phone (still waiting for my Cosmo), the BlackBerry KEY2 with Android 8.1, I experience something similar: sometimes Bluetooth enables itself out of the blue. So that leads me to think the Flight Mode issue might be an Android issue instead.
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My mum also reported the issue with airplane mode randomly activating. Let's hope PC fixes this issue in the next update
Btw, is this a CoDi issue or Android issue? 'Cause on my current phone (still waiting for my Cosmo), the BlackBerry KEY2 with Android 8.1, I experience something similar: sometimes Bluetooth enables itself out of the blue. So that leads me to think the Flight Mode issue might be an Android issue instead.
Nope, it's the cover. I actually caught it once by accidentally looking at the external screen. It happily keeps on receiving taps while the device is open. If you hold the device so you can type with your thumbs (i.e., no flat surface nearby) this is inevitable. Poor design, I assume there will be an option at some point to disable this behavior.
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@Tom But then why do I have a similar issue as I described on my KEY2? That can't be a coincedence...
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Nope, it's the cover. I actually caught it once by accidentally looking at the external screen. It happily keeps on receiving taps while the device is open. If you hold the device so you can type with your thumbs (i.e., no flat surface nearby) this is inevitable. Poor design, I assume there will be an option at some point to disable this behavior.
Can confirm. I had similar issues. After hearing about it on this forum, I had a look at the CoDi while the device was open. Even while it displays the Planet logo it will happily let you swipe-left or swipe-down and poke icons from the menus.
This happens quite naturally while you hold the thing to type on the keyboard with your thumbs. Your fingers naturally touch the screen and swipe it.
Especially if you have a Cosmo like mine where the hinge is loose while the Cosmo is open, making the top flap in the wind a bit.
If you haven't done so already, take a moment to report it on the Cosmo Reporting thing: https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/cc92fc88e...923c419ad9321b2 (https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/cc92fc88ec4e469d8923c419ad9321b2)
Hopefully @PC will address it after a number of people raise attention to it.
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I am using this thread because this post is related to the content discussed here -- it remains a lot to do in order to have a more or less pleasant experience with codi. After the last update, their remains icons which do not behave correctly and some which have to be improved. My wish-list to the devs:
- better handling of the localization symbol on codi -- with my cosmo and the last update, my localization symbol is 'off' all the time no matter what I am doing, even if it is actually 'on' when I open my cosmo; this might be related to a problem regarding the actualization/refresing of the symbol on codi, and prevent me to use the gps with my cosmo closed (nothing shows up on codi, only the voice of the gps)
- better handling of default applications: particularly with media players, it is impossible to use the buttons back/forward/pause/play if you are using another media player than what google provides
- less sensitivity of symbols functions: would prevent to activate airplane mode for example just by putting your cosmo into your pocket -- something like a longer press should do the trick
- some functions are not useful -- when you get an email or a whatsapp message, you can see it on codi which is good, but you can not answer the message with the case closed, you have to open it -- so, remove this function from codi; the same for the function enabling the 'mark as read' or 'remove', which do not mark messages as read or remove them
These would be the minimum to do in order to make codi more usable.
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- better handling of default applications: particularly with media players, it is impossible to use the buttons back/forward/pause/play if you are using another media player than what google provides
On mine, the back/forward/pause/play functions work in 2 of my 3 music apps. (works for TuneIn and PowerAmp but not for DBB2)
However, none of my apps show up in the CoDi player's list of apps that appears when you swipe in from the left. Only Google Music, which I don't use, shows there.
I'd be happy if PlanetC would allow us to customize this list ourselves (in CoDi Assistant, perhaps?) or just update their list of apps to include the ones the community is asking for.
(I have filed support requests for this already)
- less sensitivity of symbols functions: would prevent to activate airplane mode for example just by putting your cosmo into your pocket -- something like a longer press should do the trick
I would be happy if PlanetC would make it so that touch-screen input is disabled when the "Planet" logo is showing. This seems to be the cause of all the unintended actions like accidentally turning off 4G, WiFi, Location Services, etc.
Sometimes my CoDi does not lock after I close the device, but I always push the silver button (locks CoDi and turns the screen off) before I put it in a pocket. I have not ever had a problem with accidental actions while the screen is locked or off.
Although the screen does wake up for just about any notification, which is annoying. E.g. if the weather changes, if my battery level changes (I have GSamBattery with a persistent notification displaying battery level and temp, estimated run time) or if I've taken steps and my step counter increments.
I'd be happy if PlanetC can determine which notifications are persistent notifications and not wake the screen up for changes to those.
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- some functions are not useful -- when you get an email or a whatsapp message, you can see it on codi which is good, but you can not answer the message with the case closed, you have to open it -- so, remove this function from codi; the same for the function enabling the 'mark as read' or 'remove', which do not mark messages as read or remove them
i disagree with email at least. i use the delete function from gmail from the cover display all the time. very useful.
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- some functions are not useful -- when you get an email or a whatsapp message, you can see it on codi which is good, but you can not answer the message with the case closed, you have to open it -- so, remove this function from codi; the same for the function enabling the 'mark as read' or 'remove', which do not mark messages as read or remove them
i disagree with email at least. i use the delete function from gmail from the cover display all the time. very useful.
Then it is inconsistent behaviour, because I can't get email removed from codi on my google email app., and it is just the same with airmail. The functions for codi should scale for every kind of app you want to install on the cosmo which codi would handle. You can not have some functions working with some app., not working with other ones, or working with some cosmo and not for other ones.