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Everything Else => General Support and Discussion => Zaurus General Forums => Archived Forums => Software => Topic started by: mistermarcin on May 13, 2004, 12:06:19 am
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Hello
is anyone aware of any maps soft for Z?
Something like AutoRouter or GPSDrive(which is supposed to-technically- work on Z, but all maps have to be downloaded as you go, which is a pain in the ass when you\'re travelling(great program tough-highly recommended in general)
Any soft anyone might know of, or better yet used?
cheers
Martin
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Just a map viewer....really just an image viewer/zoomer...
jmap http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=802 (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=802)
GPS stuff?...
epsGPS http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1104 (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1104)
zGPS http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=169 (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=169)
and if you are going to the moon...
QMoon http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=565 (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=565)
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thanx.
JMap looks like something I could use.
I\'ll give it a shot.
Cheers
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For traveling in the US you can try zroadmap (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1117).
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or qpegps.
http://qpegps.sourceforge.net/ (http://qpegps.sourceforge.net/)
Peter
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For traveling in the US you can try zroadmap (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1117).
Except its home site of http://roadmap.saigon.net (http://roadmap.saigon.net) no longer exists (there\'s a http://saigon.net (http://saigon.net), but no such subdomain any longer).
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You can download the one of the versions from my site: http://moria.ionkov.net/zaurus/zroadmap (http://moria.ionkov.net/zaurus/zroadmap). I don\'t remember if it is the latest one I compiled though.
You can download the maps from here: https://www.oesf.org/commu...jects/zroadmap/ (https://www.oesf.org/community/66.180.235.230/projects/zroadmap/)
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II\'m mostly looking for european maps.
Mainly eastern and south/eastern europe. Poland, czech rep, Hungary etc.
I\'ve noticed though that even MS auto router pretty much ignores eastern europe..
Too bad, it\'s an amazing place to travel through and beer is SOOOO cheap
cheers
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I cant seem to get zroadmap to work on my 5600. It runs but cant read the database. I have usdir.rdm.tgz and usIN.tar.gz.
I get these errors on the console :
cannot open map database usc06013
cannot open map database usc06075
My maps are for IN and start at 18001
The database is extracted on /mnt/cf/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap.
I tried the ipk at http://moria.ionkov.net/zaurus/zroadmap (http://moria.ionkov.net/zaurus/zroadmap).
When I install on the z, the installer complains with:
\"Configuring zroadmap...[: zroadmap: unknown operand
Done.\"
Any ideas as to what\'s wrong?
Thanks
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Forgot one bit of important info. I dont have a gps device. I was just hoping I would be able to view the maps with zroadmap.
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cmisip, did you try to search for a location in IN?
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Yes, nothing happens. the console displays those database errors I mentioned. Why does it look for usc0613?
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That is the default location that zroadmap tries to show (San Francisco, CA I think).
So what happens when you do Find-]Address?
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When I install on the z, the installer complains with:
\"Configuring zroadmap...[: zroadmap: unknown operand
Done.\"
I have the same ROM, and got the same error from ipkg, but zroadmap functions fine.
Try searching for a very basic address --100 Main St in your town (if you have a Main St ), then navigate to the street in front of your house and mark it as a waypoint or a destination. When you start zRoadmap again, it should open with the location you marked (or you can instruct it to go there).
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I think the easiest way to find your house is to search by intersection.
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I have all of my maps ( many dozens of uscNNNNN.rdm files for each state ) in the maps directory: /mnt/cf/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap/maps
When I load mine from the desktop (in 640x480 mode), it pops up a window that says: \"An error occured when opening the selected trip\". (I didn\'t select any trip. ??) When I click \"ok\", the program closes. This happens on all 3 version of the IPK linked above (2 links... 1 link has 2 IPKs).
In the terminal:
bash-2.05$ cd /home/QtPalmtop/bin
bash-2.05$ ./roadmap
Some messages appears quickly in the Terminal and then the GUI application pops up with the same \"An error occured when opening the selected trip\" message. When I click \"OK\", the program closes again and I\'m back in the terminal which says:
bash-2.05$ cd /home/QtPalmtop/bin
bash-2.05$ ./roadmap
Display size = 480x640
could not open translation file /home/QtPalmtop//i18n/zh_TW/libs1.qmid
filename:/home/QtPalmtop/lib/fonts/arial_140_50_t10.qpf
fontName:lcfont , size:10
s## roadmap_locator.c, line 144: cannot open directory database (usdir)
== roadmap_gps.c, line 232: cannot access GPS source gpsd://localhost
s** roadmap_file.c, line 70: cannot open file /home/zaurus/.roadmap/trips/default
bash-2.05$
Part of the message above I\'ve seen before:
Display size = 480x640
could not open translation file /home/QtPalmtop//i18n/zh_TW/libs1.qmid
filename:/home/QtPalmtop/lib/fonts/arial_140_50_t10.qpf
fontName:lcfont , size:10
I seem to see this a lot... I also see this with the stratagus (WarCraft) engine I\'m trying to run. Is this an SQL library problem? Anyone else getting this?
I looked in the preference, schema, and sprites files (located in /home/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap when installed internally)... but I couldn\'t find anything in these files mentioning a designation trip file to load. How do I get around this?
Thanks in advance!
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This is amazing. Thanks for the help guys. I was having permissions errors. The database on /mnt/cf is owned by root. When I run the program as root, it works but I lose the compass. When I run as zaurus, I have the compass but cant access the database. I finally moved all the contents of /opt/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap to /mnt/cf/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap, deleted the roadmap directory in /opt/QtPalmtop/share and created a symlink there to /mnt/cf/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap. Then created a script that basically does a \" export LOGNAME=root \" and \"su -c roadmap root\". I changed the exec entry in /opt/QtPalmtop/apps/Applications/zroadmap.desktop to point to the script and all is working well. It even has voice enabled, i think via flite which I installed last night.
Other questions:
What GPS device are you guys using with this?
Is it possible to set it up so it will tell you to \"Turn right\" etc as you are driving?
How do you plot a trip from origin to destination and have it reflect on the map?
I will be doing some more reading.
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Just to make you dream a little about TomTom on your Zaurus.
Don\'t forget to notice that they say that it is running on an embedded Linux OS.
http://engadget.com/entry/3508485516215827/ (http://engadget.com/entry/3508485516215827/)
http://www.smartphony.org/mobinaute/articl...=20040428212154 (http://www.smartphony.org/mobinaute/article.php?id=20040428212154)
http://www.tomtom.com/news/news.php?News=1...=173&Language=4 (http://www.tomtom.com/news/news.php?News=173&Language=4)
http://www.tomtom.com/ (http://www.tomtom.com/)
For the frenchies (or frogs, it depends).
http://www.smartphony.org/mobinaute/articl...=20040513151203 (http://www.smartphony.org/mobinaute/article.php?id=20040513151203)
http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/news.asp#news_283 (http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/news.asp#news_283)
And just a note... I will say just for fun: Sharp / Trolltech are not the only one to be freeze on the PDA market (I\'m talking about the available OS).
http://www.pdagold.com/articles/detail.asp?a=139 (http://www.pdagold.com/articles/detail.asp?a=139)
Do you like the difference? On Visual Basic RAD editor, it\'s a simple move + rename for most of those screen (+ gimp work?).
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Older versions of roadmap need the default trips file to exist. Try doing a touch or something else to create a (writable, deleteable) zero length file.
You can view maps without a gps. The easiest way to get to a known point is search for an intersection or address.
I\'ve modified mine to automatically unpack BZ2-ed databases from another directory via the download function (unless you want to run boa or something with a CGI script).
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Ok, I created an empty \"trips\" file in /mnt/cf/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap using \"vi\". I moved all of the files from /home/QtPalmtop/shared/roadmap to /mnt/cf/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap, and then I deleted /home/QtPalmtop/shared/roadmap. I then created a symlink from /home/QtPalmtop/shared/roadmap to /mnt/cf/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap.
I changed the roadmap icon to run with root priveledges.
...but when I open roadmap I still get the same \"An error occured when opening the selected trip\" error message, followed by the application closing.
Any ideas?
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I think it should be in /home/zaurus/.roadmap/trips/default that needs to be created. running \"strace roadmap...\" (2]&1 | grep open) would show you an open that is failing.
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i had a boatload of permission errors before I finally got it running. Unfortunately, I could not change permissions on a vfat partition. I moved the roadmaps to an ext3 partition and deleted my ~/.roadmap directories and now can run zroadmap as zaurus user.
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Ok, I created default in /home/zaurus/.roadmap/trips. (It is weird how \".\" directory don\'t show up in \"ls\". Are they Linux\'s hidden directories?)
It still crashes... only this time it doesn\'t actually tell you anything. The icon shows the \"Explosion\" graphic and the hour glass appears.... and then a few minuts later the screen flickers, the hour glass disappears, and that\'s it.
I couldn\'t get \"strace\" working. I will look into it...
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It is weird how \".\" directory don\'t show up in \"ls\". Are they Linux\'s hidden directories?
Yes, although I think the connotation is more \"housekeeping--don\'t let this clutter up your directory listing\" than \"secret.\"
It still crashes... only this time it doesn\'t actually tell you anything. The icon shows the \"Explosion\" graphic and the hour glass appears.... and then a few minuts later the screen flickers, the hour glass disappears, and that\'s it.
What error messages (if any) do you get when running it from a shell prompt?
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Ok, I created default in /home/zaurus/.roadmap/trips. (It is weird how \".\" directory don\'t show up in \"ls\". Are they Linux\'s hidden directories?)
Use ls -a to see everything.
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On the side... thanks for the constant flow of good Linux tips... piece by piece I\'m learning this.
Here\'s my output when running this from the terminal:
bash-2.05$ cd /home/QtPalmtop/bin
bash-2.05$ ./roadmap
Display size = 480x640
could not open translation file /home/QtPaltop//i18n/zh_TW/libs1/qmid
filename:/home/QtPalmtop/lib/fonts/arial_140_50_t10.qpf
fontName:lcfont , size:10
s## roadmap_locator.c, line 144: cannot open directory database (usdir)
== roadmap_qps.c, line 232: cannot access GPS source gpsd://localhost
(Above typed manually. Typos may exist)
It looks like the default empty trips file solved part of the problem. It fixed 1 of the 3 errors I get. Am I supposed to have the usdir.rdm somewhere? Is that the main database it is complaining about?
Also... the rdm files I downloaded came compressed in a tarball. I uncompressed them and put the results in the maps directory mentioned above. The documentation says that RoadMap can\'t work directly on the compressed files, so it sounds like I put the maps in the right place. ...did I?
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All of my maps are in /mnt/card/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap. You need usdir.rdm and the untarred maps of the state(s) you are interested in. The location of the map database can be changed in File]Preferences]General (tab).
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The location of the map database can be changed in File]Preferences]General (tab).
lol! \"Got trouble accessing the Internet? Just go to our website at...\" ha ha ha..
So the default location for the maps ISN\'T in /mnt/card/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap/maps but instead it\'s /mnt/card/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap? I\'ll give that a try.
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Did that work? I\'m having the same problem I got rid of the first two messages by creating a vi file default in /home/zaurus/.roadmap/trips, and by creating usdir.rdm in /mnt/card/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap, but i\'m still getting the error:
== roadmap_qps.c, line 232: cannot access GPS source gpsd://localhost
Do I edit the config file somewhere? I didn\'t see anything about turning off gps in there...
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I suspect the GPS error isn\'t the problem. I\'m guessing it\'s just saying that it can\'t find a GPS device, which I\'m hoping the software can deal with.
Mine loads now, but I can\'t get a map to load. I said \"Main, Keokuk, IA\" and it gave me a message saying it found 10 matches (for number ranges in the address on the street)... and then it froze up. Had to reboot my Zaurus.
Ironically, I\'m doing more rebooting with my Zaurus that I am with my Windows machine. But that\'s only because I don\'t know how to kill a frozen program... still learning...
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I suspect the GPS error isn\'t the problem. I\'m guessing it\'s just saying that it can\'t find a GPS device, which I\'m hoping the software can deal with.
Mine loads now, but I can\'t get a map to load. I said \"Main, Keokuk, IA\" and it gave me a message saying it found 10 matches (for number ranges in the address on the street)... and then it froze up. Had to reboot my Zaurus.
The software will run even if you dont have a gps device.
You are running into the same problem that I ran into with the program freezing after it finds matches to your query. The way I fixed mine : if the maps are in a vfat partition, run it as root; otherwise make sure your user has read write permissions on the maps directory ( sometimes, though no matter what you do it wont work because the .roadmap files get messed up, you might try renaming.them to something else, zroadmap should recreate the .roadmap directories)
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Now the program is not even loading :?
I\'m not getting any error messages...
Time to give up on this one i guess...
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Time to give up on this one i guess...
Don\'t do that! There are two (seemingly identical) .ipk\'s, one didn\'t work under Zynergy, one did. Try version 1.0-2!
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Ironically, I\'m doing more rebooting with my Zaurus that I am with my Windows machine. But that\'s only because I don\'t know how to kill a frozen program... still learning...
Tony,
If you have ip access to your zaurus from another box then use ssh or telnet to log into your z and then ps -ef | more to locate the process, then kill -9 (process id).
That usually works for me, but you need to be networked.
If just the app is frozen, ie QT is still responding, then you can use whatsuponz to kill the process, kilefiz should have it.
Peter
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ps -ef | more to locate the process,
Or, just
pidof (program name)
ie
pidof roadmap
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If you have ip access to your zaurus from another box then use ssh or telnet to log into your z and then ps -ef | more to locate the process, then kill -9 (process id).
That usually works for me, but you need to be networked.
No network at work... yet. I\'m trying to get that working too, but they\'re using a propriatery Cisco wireless protocol. I\'ll post another thread (or add to an existing) about that later...
if the maps are in a vfat partition, run it as root; otherwise make sure your user has read write permissions on the maps directory ( sometimes, though no matter what you do it wont work because the .roadmap files get messed up, you might try renaming.them to something else, zroadmap should recreate the .roadmap directories)
Root priveledges resulting in the same crash. Isn\'t there a way to simply start at a state level and zoom into various areas? In other words, can\'t I simply look around a map without knowing a particular point?
If just the app is frozen, ie QT is still responding, then you can use whatsuponz to kill the process, kilefiz should have it.
I\'ve never heard of \"whatuponz\" before. Is it a built-in terminal command? I\'ll look it up...
Thanks!
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Wow! WhatsUpOnZ rocks!
The software people have written for the Zaurus never ceases to amaze me! Thanks!
Amazing stuff!
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Wow! WhatsUpOnZ rocks!
The software people have written for the Zaurus never ceases to amaze me! Thanks!
Amazing stuff!
It was included with the cacko QT 1.20 rom, but sadly dissapeared in the 1.21 rom. But I have just noticed that you can kill processes from the process tab in system info app.
Also next time your in the terminal app, try typing top followed by return.
put the terminal server into fullscreen mode first. and use a smallish font.
I will answer the inevitable question about \"what is the kapm-idled proces that seems to be using 95% of my cpu\" before you ask it. It is a process that consumes idle cpu cycles to preserve batery life, and is perfectly normal.
You can also use the \"o\" key to change the order of the list, also try hitting the \"?\" for help.
Peter
Ps thanks sash/mavloski for including top in the rom.
pps Sorry to jump all over this thread and wander madly off topic.
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Hrmmm maybe that is the problem...
I have been using ver 1.0.1-1...:?
I\'m gonna try that one.
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I couldn\'t find zroadmap_1[1].0-2_arm.ipk anywhere...
Anyone have a link? :shock:
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But I have just noticed that you can kill processes from the process tab in system info app.
How? I can\'t see any list of processes in System Info...
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OK, I found the newer ver, but i\'m still getting that error:
== roadmap_gps.c, line 232: cannot access GPS source: gpsd://localhost
This is where I remain stuck. :roll:
Soooooo frustrating!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :evil:
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But I have just noticed that you can kill processes from the process tab in system info app.
How? I can\'t see any list of processes in System Info...
I mean the sysinfo app include in the cacko QT 1.21 rom ( which it sounds like you\'re not running)
I meant this as a possible explanation as to why they ditched whatsuponz from the latest rom, as that functionality now exists in the new sysinfo app.
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Stupid question:
But do I have to pay a monthly fee to use a GPS device? I am thinking of buying the Ambicom Compact Flash GPS Receiver.
And does this work with the zaurus and zroadmap? Does the software that comes with it work on the zaurus 5600. It is included in myzaurus .com as a zaurus accessory.
Thanks
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But do I have to pay a monthly fee to use a GPS device?
No. It\'s free.
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GPS is a system of satelites in orbit. Each Satelite gives off a unique signal to identify itself, which signal everyone can see. Your GPS devices know the location of each Satelite\'s orbit and therefor when it find where each Satelite currently is, you then know where you are. In other words, GPS can\'t be charged per month, because the Satelite never receives a signal from your GPS device and therefor doesn\'t even know that it exists...
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More specifically... your GPS device usually only needs to know where 3 satelites are to triangulate your position.
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OK, I found the newer ver...
Where? Can you post a link? I couldn\'t find it before...
...but i\'m still getting that error:
== roadmap_gps.c, line 232: cannot access GPS source: gpsd://localhost
It should still work with that error. What happens after that error?... does the program still work?
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Thanks for the reply. I think I will be buying the Ambicom GPS. It seems to be the cheapest one.
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cmisip:
Something to consider: the CF GPS devices are rather bulky (too much so to be left in place for casual carrying around when not in use) and occupy the CF slot. Unless you like shuffling CF cards and can tolerate being without network connectivity when using GPS, consider a BT GPS receiver instead.
I was able to get one on eBay for <200 USD delivered, and have been quite pleased with its performance. (Drove 200 miles to a completely unfamiliar city today, got lost and un-lost repeatedly thanks to zRoadmap...and I\'m still learning how to use the program!)
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How did the bluetooth card hookup to the zaurus? I gave up on trying the zRoadmaps program... I got all the way to downloading the map into the program, and the program even recognizes the map. But the map does not load.. And i\'ve tried zoom, etc.
I\'m going to just suffice for the mobile version of MapQuest for directions, etc. And I guess if I get lost, hopefully there will be a local linksys router to connect to. I might look into getting a BT GPS Receiver, as long as it does not take up my precious CF slot.
http://www.mapquest.com/pda/ (http://www.mapquest.com/pda/)
Oh ya, you cand find all the file i\'ve been using for zRoadmap at the ZUG Develpment Site https://www.oesf.org/commu...tml?group_id=44 (https://www.oesf.org/community/66.180.235.230/project/showfilesbced.html?group_id=44)
I noticed that there is zroadmap_1.0-1_arm.ipk and zroadmap_1.0-2_arm.ipk... Do they both have to be installed for it to work properly?
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Oh ya, you cand find all the file i\'ve been using for zRoadmap at the ZUG Develpment Site https://www.oesf.org/co (https://www.oesf.org/co) ... roup_id=44
On that page it says:
zroadmap_1.0-1_arm.ipk 127128 384 ARM .ipk
zroadmap_1.0-2_arm.ipk 127106 621 ARM .ipk
Does anyone know what \"384 ARM\" and \"621 ARM\" means?
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I had the zroadmap_1.0-1_arm.ipk installed. I uninstalled it jsut now and instead installed zroadmap_1.0-2_arm.ipk.
The program loads up (just like with the previous version) and bahaves exactly the same. (Keeping in mind that I still have the \"modifications\" I made before which was posted above). I have the Iowa maps and I select 102 Main Keokuk IA and it freezes...
I had to use WhatsUpOnZ (awesome tool!) to kill the process (after waiting about 5 minutes for ZRoadMap to respond).
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How did the bluetooth card hookup to the zaurus? I gave up on trying the zRoadmaps program... I got all the way to downloading the map into the program, and the program even recognizes the map. But the map does not load.. And i\'ve tried zoom, etc.
The BT GPS receiver is just a little orb with a charging port and a couple of status lights. It connects to a BT card via Serial Port profile on the Z. Basically, I had to edit /etc/bluetooth/givepin to supply the right PIN, then did sdptool search SP, which will find the BT device address and channel of the GPS receiver. (This also pairs the two devices, and I could then reset givepin to what I wanted.) Then I edited /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf to add /dev/rfcomm1, and started gpsd with the -p /dev/rfcomm1 option. To gpsd, /dev/rfcomm1 is just a serial port via which it can get the NMEA 0183 data.
You will, in a sense, have to \"give up\" your CF slot (for a BT card), but since BT can handle multiple connections, you can simultaneously have a wireless serial connection to your GPS device on rfcomm1 and a wireless PPP session via cell phone on rfcomm0, or a wireless PAN connection to another BT-enabled machine--or all three, if you\'re feeling ambitious!
As for zRoadmap, I\'d say don\'t give up--I had fits getting it to display anything until I entered 100 main gainesville, fl (and be sure to hit the on-screen \"OK\" button in the \"Enter Address\" popup, NOT return, NOT the plastic OK button...don\'t ask me why, I don\'t know.)
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ok... pressing the \"Ok\" keyboard button made the \"address\" window close without freezing... but it still didn\'t pull up a map. The screen is blank with a small compass in the upper left corner...
I\'m running with root prveledges..
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ok... pressing the \"Ok\" keyboard button made the \"address\" window close without freezing...
No, not the keyboard button--tap the little square labelled \"OK\" at the bottom of the \"Find Address\" popup window. I don\'t know why, but any other OK/enter button seems to be interpreted as \"ahh, nevermind.\"
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I don\'t know about the Z version but for some reason I have to be root for it to correctly display a map on my PC. I set world permissions on /usr/share/local/roadmap and nothing complains but it won\'t show a map unless I\'m root.
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No, not the keyboard button--tap the little square labelled \"OK\" at the bottom of the \"Find Address\" popup window. I don\'t know why, but any other OK/enter button seems to be interpreted as \"ahh, nevermind.\"
That did it!! I now see a map!!! Hurray!! Thanks.
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I just read this thread and thought I would give it a try.
I have followed the instructions and placed all of my uscXXXXX.rdm\'s in
/mnt/card/QtPalmtop/share/roadmap
Now where do I find the usdir.rdm.tgz that contains the usdir.rdm file?
Do I make this myself...I can\'t find one?
TIA
Greg
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Never mind, I found it with all the others.
tgif
Greg :roll:
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lol
Yes, the usdir.rdm.tgz can be found at the ZUG development site for all those who need it. (The link is somewhere on this post)
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In case anyone is interested, I was finally able to compile the latest version of Roadmap v1.0.5 (December 25, 2003) for the Zaurus. I did not create an ipk for it. I just replaced the executable from the 1.0-2 package and it seems to work just fine.
By-the-way, has anyone been able to get the icons to show up above the map area? I would find it so much more useful to be able to tap a zoom icon instead of selecting menu items.
Terry.
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I was able to get the ambicom cf gps card to work with zroadmap and qpegps. It\'s pretty cool. The steps I took are:
1. Install gpsd. (It is in the qpegps download site)
2. Insert card in cf slot
3. cardctl resume
4. gpsd -p /dev/ttyS3 -s 4800
5. run zroadmap or qpegps
Wait for a few minutes for it to work. Qpegps positioned me correctly on the map but I dont have a high resolution map of IN. zroadmap also positioned me correctly but since I am using the maps from zroadmap download site, I have resolution to street level and with the onboard flite program, zroadmap read to me my current location and what roads I am approaching.
Does anybody know how to keep zroadmap centered on the my location? . I had to manually center or else my icon goes off the screen.
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You need to start or resume a trip for roadmap to track the GPS
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Is there a way to get it to display street names? The map lines are cool, but I can\'t find where I\'m going without the actual street names. I know that RoadMap knows the street names.. I just don\'t know how to get it to display them...
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I couldn\'t find a way to show street names on the regular version of RoadMap... unless you clicked on them obviously. Would be awesome though.
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there is no way to make zroadmap to show street names. and because the development of the application is stalled, i don\'t think there will be such a feature added in near future.
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(z)roadmap will only show street names if you tap on them, or turn on \"Enable Navigation\" or some similar thing - it will then show \"Approaching XYZ street\" as you drive toward it.
While they are stalled, I\'m working on my own version. I already have a basic qt based display program (with correctly filled polygons and cities in yellow) with an autofetch and process from the tiger 2003 archive. I don\'t have names or addresses yet.
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Wow! Best luck with that endeavor!
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For traveling in the US you can try zroadmap (http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=1117).
Except its home site of http://roadmap.saigon.net (http://roadmap.saigon.net) no longer exists (there\'s a http://saigon.net (http://saigon.net), but no such subdomain any longer).
try going to http://roadmap.digitalomaha.net/ (http://roadmap.digitalomaha.net/). That link ought to get you there.
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Yes, that link works, but the link in that page to the Zaurus files ( http://community.zaurus.com/projects/zroadmap/ (http://community.zaurus.com/projects/zroadmap/) ) doesn\'t work.
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Yes, that link works, but the link in that page to the Zaurus files ( http://community.zaurus.com/projects/zroadmap/ (http://community.zaurus.com/projects/zroadmap/) ) doesn\'t work.
ZUG mirror site does! (https://www.oesf.org/community/66.180.235.230/projects/zroadmap/)
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I\'m having some difficulty getting zRoadMap to display my position with GPS. I\'ve got all the maps for my area (which are very very out of date), and have it centered approximately where I am. I start the gpsd daemon with gpsd -p /dev/ttyS3 -s 4800. It starts up and works fine (verified by qpeGPS), and the roadgps program will track the satilites. However, no markers of any sort appear on my screen in zRoadMap... Any suggestions?
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It takes a little while for it to appear on the screen in zroadmap. Look for a triangular blue icon.
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What is the difference between qpegps original and qpegps with the scale ratio option?
I have been using getmaps to get the maps and it seems it is aware of the 2815 scale ratio for maptuit (its in the source). Do I need to get the qpepgs version with the scaleratio option? The maps are fairly accurate more so in the N <-> S direction than in the E <-> W direction in high resolution maps, that is , when traveling N <-> S, the icon representing you, stays on the road, while when traveling E <-> W you are \"beside\" the road ( a little to the South of the road) but close enough that you know what street you are. I have done very limited testing though.
Anybody else have any experiences to share regarding qpegps and map accuracy? Any suggestions?
Thanks
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alright... well, the GPS was working, however, my location shows up as a black square on the display. In fact, all waypoints/endpoints/other stuff always shows up as a black square. I tried changing the preferences for each, but nothing changes. Also, even though I can navigate with the GPS (i.e., it tells me what street I am approaching and rotates/centers the map), it does not leave a \"trail\" of where I have been. I\'ll keep playing with it, but any suggestions are appreciated.
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I received my Pharos Bluetooth two days ago and had a lot of \"fun\" since then....
First of all, the Z: SL-6000 w/ Ambicom BT CF card and BlueZ installed. I added \"rfcomm1\" into /dev/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf with the right MAC and channel \"1\". Was able to get Zroadmap to work with the GPS right away.
Then comes the second day: The Z just will not pair with the GPS. Typing \"sdptool search SP\" returns somthign like \" Cannot connect to SDP xx:xx:xx:xx:xx; Permission denied\" or \".......too many symlink\". xx:xx was the MAC address of GPS and I was running as root. Got really frustrated so I gave up after a couple of hours.
Now today: I typed \"gpsd -p /dev/rfcomm1 -s 4800\" in Qconsole. Then \"roadgps\" and \"roadmap\" works fine and launch their respective programs. BUT.... if I click on the icon for \"Zroadmap\", all I got is the explosion icon and nothing else!!! How\'s that possible? I thought if I can launch the program from terminal, the icon should work just fine!
Sorry for the rant but for the group member who got a BT gps to work, what did you put in \"preference-]GPS\"? Should I leave it as \"gpsd://localhost\" or should I change it to \"gpsd -p /dev/rfcomm1 -s 4800\"(which worked for the first day but not afterwards)?
If I have to start gpsd manually everytime, is there someway I can create an icon whcih will execute \"gpsd -p /dev/rfcomm1 -s 4800\". I tried adding an icon in \"Tab Setting\" but it will not let me add the options.
Thanks
FW
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A quick update:
cardctl suspend
cardctl resume
sdptool search SP
gpsd -p /dev/rfcomm1 -s 4800
from the console works at the beginning. But now \"sdptool search SP\" can\'t seem to find anything.
There are two other problems as well:
1) Zroadmap crashes in less than 5 minutes after the car starts moving
2) when I put the 4 commands in a shell script, sdptool doesn;t find anything.
FW
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You might not get a program starting up from an icon for several reasons. First, check the path in the tab settings. It may not be pointing where the command line is. Second, you may be running as root, or in a different directory.
If you are running a script, try putting a \"sleep 1\" (or maybe longer) between the resume and search.
Which version of zroadmap? 1.05 is the latest. Does it crash consistently only with gps, or if you move the map? Any post-mortem info (there is a .roadmap/postmortem file or some such - check your memory)
Here is what I\'m working on - the images are just east of Brighton, Michigan, roadmap, and my program. I still don\'t have annotations (I\'m working on an API so I can get names, icons for hospitals, schools, and such, waypoints, and anything Kismet finds overlaid). The length of the arrow represents my speed and it points on my course. It\'s still an early version. (the update rate is slightly faster on mine)
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Could you do a version for PDAXROM? Preview looks great.
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TZ,
Thanks for the help. The version I download is 1.02. Where can I get 1.05?
I had much better luck today. At the beginning, the program was crashing right after starting. Then I realized by accident that I have a start and destination point. I cleared the trip but still crashes. Finally I was able to start the program when I ran into stop-and-go traffic. Amazingly, the program kept running. Even after I left the congested area and was driving at highway speed, the program was able to keep pace. This is quite different than yesterday.
So I am thinking it\'s either the program cannot keep up with real-time routing requirement (during the crahses yesterday, I saw numerous error messages about \"unable to calculate route\" etc) or it doesn\'t like to start at high speed. It\'s difficult to test the latter since you are supposed to concentrate on the driving instead of reading error messages :-)
But anyway, today\'s events encourage me not to give up this program yet. In fact the irony is that while I can use the GPS successfully on Z only half of the time, I had no luck at all using it in both Street Atlas and Street And Trips on my XP laptop with the same Ambicom CF BT card!
FW
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The last version up on the old devnet was 1.05. I have my hacked (for Kismet so I can see APs popup live) version if you can\'t find a binary. Apparently the tool palette crashes Qt/E, so it is disabled. It is also possible that Bluetooth and/or the stack is using too much CPU or passing damaged data to roadmap. Roadmap uses less CPU at higher magnifications. Also, turn navigation and speech off.
On my program I\'ve added gzipped shape files (saves 30%) and adjacent city lines and county lines and a few other tweaks. I\'m using fairly pure Qt (or QPE), so it should work under anything that supports that toolkit - I assume PDAXROM would support it. It runs under Qt/X on my Mac, (cyg)Win, and my Linux PC as well as my Zaurus. In fact I use one of the PCs with autograb enabled and unzoom and pan to get zaurus (little-endian) compatible shape files. Autograb launches a shell script that pulls the tgrSSCCC.zip file from the internet, then runs a few standard system programs and my database builder on it - you only notice a long pause while it is building the shape file, then the new county appears - something like roadmap\'s download feature, except I can start with raw files.
My only question is if I really want to make it GPL or hold it or some combination (I have some really neat techniques to speed up the drawing and increase compression and I\'m under 1000 lines of code for the display app) - The problem is that I need to do things like eat and pay rent, and apparently there are no opensource fellowships or grants I can get to do this. Also, a good map/feature database (one with correct road types, names, etc.) is several thousand dollars, and I\'d eventually want to adapt things for that, but they too want money up-front.
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tz,
I will be grateful if you can send me version 1.05. I have version 1.02 downloaded from the net and it\'s still crashign heavily whenever GPS is connected and moving. At frist the less detail zoom works ok but it\'s crashign more frequently now. At street level the program almost crashes right away.
The program you are working on looks really good. Does it use the same road database as the Zraodmap? Zroamap\'s database is a bit outdated. I will welcome your program either as freeware or \"payware\". One thing I want my Z to do is to be able to tell me where I am at all times. It may sound naive but have you thought about making a program to convert commercial mapping softwares? Delorme Street Atlas and Microsoft Street and Trips can be had for less than $50. If you can write a program to convert those maps and use it in your program, it may be cheaper than buying expensive commercial database. Of course the userd of your program will have to get their own copies of SA or S&T to comply with the copyright laws.
FW
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Ethereal, are you using zroadmap on the SL-6000? I\'ve tried using different versions and they all fail to run. They install fine and start but I get \"An error occurred when opening the\" with an OK button. That\'s it. I hit OK and it closes. The GPS Console, however, does open but can\'t do much with just that.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Ethereal, are you using zroadmap on the SL-6000? I've tried using different versions and they all fail to run. They install fine and start but I get "An error occurred when opening the" with an OK button. That's it. I hit OK and it closes. The GPS Console, however, does open but can't do much with just that.
Any help would be appreciated.
Ok, I got zroadmap to work on the sl-6000. After carefully rereading each post, I DL'ed the usidr.rdm and moved my maps to my SD card. Also, I modified the zroadmap.desktop file to execute zroadmap.sh which calls su -c zroadmap root. Together that made the thing run.
Looks nice but still having rouble getting my gps receiver working. I've got the AmbiCom GPS CF receiver which works great under qpegps but even when loading gpsd -p /dev/ttyS3 -s 4800 from the terminal, zroadmapGPS never seems to show anything. Anyone else seen this and gotten it to work?
tz, I'd be very greatful if you could send me v1.05. Apparently, v1.06 is out but needs to be ported.
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I ve got the Ambicom cf gps. It works fine in zroadmap. It however needs a good fix before it will work. Try using the antenna.
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I ve got the Ambicom cf gps. It works fine in zroadmap. It however needs a good fix before it will work. Try using the antenna.
I did get it to work in the car with the external antenna once this weekend. I can also get it to move with the map, but I can't seem to get it to tell me much about the trip. Also, unlike qpeGPS, it doesn't keep the Z powered on so it suspends itself. When I power up again, I can't get a fix with the GPS.
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It will only tell you where you are in the map. If you have flite installed, it will actually speak your location or what the next street is going to be.
As for the shutdown, I think you may have to adjust the power settings on your Z or keep it plugged in with a car power adapter.
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I ended up adjusting the suspend time from 10 min. to 30 min. If I'm driving, I can't necessarily check it within 10 minutes.
Another thing I find annoying is that if the z does suspend, when I turn it back on, the GPS stops functioning correctly. qpeGPS doesn't seem to have this problem, but zroadmap loses its brain. Even if I unload and restart it, the GPS CF card blinks its little blue light, so I know it's active, but the GPSconsole screen never shows any info and zroadmap fails to track me. I have to kill GPSconsole and gpsd and restart them for it to work again. What a pain.
Also, I can't seem to find flite for the z or perhaps I just don't know how it's installed. Any help on this would be great.
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I've got zRoadMap running on my sl-5500, but it always brings up a blank map. I hear you saying that I need to search and find a map location to start. OK.
The problem is, which of the numbered map files are for the part of Texas I live in? They would not all fit on my 128M card, so I just want the ones for the Dallas / Fort Worth and surrounding areas. How do I know which files to install to get an address that I can find in my area?
Thanks,
-- RJ
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The problem is, which of the numbered map files are for the part of Texas I live in? They would not all fit on my 128M card, so I just want the ones for the Dallas / Fort Worth and surrounding areas. How do I know which files to install to get an address that I can find in my area?
Thanks,
-- RJ
There is probably a better source than this but try this:
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/maps/texas_map.html (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/maps/texas_map.html)
Either look at the properties of the individual counties or look at the bottom status line of your browser (if you are using IE, sorry!) with a mouse-over. This should help you out. For example for DFW:
Tarrant County = 48439 = usc48439.rdm
Dallas County = 48114 = usc48114.rdm
I'm sure you can figure it out from this.
hth,
Robert
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Also, I can't seem to find flite for the z or perhaps I just don't know how it's installed. Any help on this would be great.
You can get flite from flite homepage (http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/flite/index.html) where
you can download an ARM binary. Mine no longer works in my current setup of OZ 3.5.1 and GPE, but
is should be easy to fix for someone with a crosscompiling setup and who knows about communicating with
the DSP. I think it is an issue discussed on the flite or festival site.