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For Sale / Wanted / For Sale: Like New Sl-c3200 + Addons

« on: December 09, 2006, 04:39:09 pm »

I wanted to publish it first here, just in case anyone's interested in this unit, before raising it to eBay.

Nice, mint condition, as new, Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200. It has no scratches, marks, scuffs, anything. It’s in perfect cosmetic order. It never fell into the ground nor over the table. Never left next to any object capable of scratching the surface. The only pouch that carried it is the one that also comes with the auction, and always with a plastic bag covering the Zaurus. Extremely well care. Barely used for listening MP3 o slight web browsing. Used in non-smoking area. Purchased early June.

It includes all the original CDs, manuals, earphones and all stuff, included even the original packaging

FYI, The earphones have never been used.

The price includes also:
- 1 Brando Screen protector (installed since day 1)
- 1 Aditional Brando Screen protector
- 1 USB Client Cable
- 1 USB Host Cable (short 10 cm.)
- 1 USB Host Cable (long: 1m.)
- 1 Wi-Fi PLANEX GW-CF11X Compact Flash card fully working
- 1 Socket Bluetooth Compact Flash (Rev. H) (the ones that don’t protrude from the CF slot), and its original drivers CD.
- 1 CF to PCMCIA adapter (Socket brand, the one that comes with the BT CF card, and its drivers)
- 1 Nintendo DS carrying case. It has a pouch that lets the Zaurus be apart from the AC adapter, cables, wi-fi and BT cards, that can be carried in the other pockets of the bag (see pics)
- A Sandisk 512Mb CF memory card with the original japanese flash-rom images (of this specific machine, the first thing I did after getting it was making a Nand back-up).

EMS Shipping from Spain.

I was looking for EUR 450, with shared shipping charges (share about 30 EUR) , but offers (PM) are welcome.

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Still for Sale?  I need to find out what 450 euros comes out to in US dollars ... I know it changes all the time, I just want to get an idea if you're inside my budget or not, so even a close guess will do me fine, just tell me it's a guess and not an actual selling  price.

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For Sale / Wanted / Sold: Sl-c3200 (like New) + Cf Wifi Card

« on: December 09, 2006, 04:34:30 pm »

Hi I am selling a SL-C3200 in very good condition.

No need to give specs details, you all know what a SL-C3200 is.

- Ships with all the original boxes
- Compact Flash Planex Wifi card (works on all distros)
- AC charger US / Europe adapter

I am located in France but will ship worldwide.

Price: 380€ + shipping.
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Still for sale?  Just to allow me to filter it a bitm any guess what that orice is in US dollars?
Thanks!

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C1000/3x00 Hardware / Error: "device Is Not Ready" Why?

« on: December 03, 2006, 11:46:29 pm »

I just had an epiphany, and found out a major clue as to why MY own Seagate 8Gb hard drive won't get recognized by the Zaurus ... although, my cheapy usb I/O thingy writes the drive just fine, any when I mount it that way to my Linux box, it seems to be A-OK.  Well, what I found was , after I booted back to the orignal Underlying Linux, and looked at the (I think this is where I saw it) the PC-link, that GUI'ed interface told me that the drive was reporting a couple of pins bad, including a missing power pin, so it woulcn't mount it.

Anyone see anything like this, or do I need to get back to Linux and check the exact util that gave me that reading.  I need to see a wayto fix this.

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Need Kernel Info For Zaurus

« on: September 28, 2006, 09:41:58 pm »

OK, lots of follks readd, but no responses.  Either you don't care about the ptxdist stuff at all, or I did a lousy job of telling you ,,, tell me bluntly which it is,  if you do aska question, I'enjoy giving you the info, and if I get rude noises, I won;t take it badly, but  iwill definitely stop bothering you over this.  i really like ptxdist, because I have closer control, and I can see what's ahppeninbg and control things directly.  i like seeing my root filesystem showing up, bit by bit.

Tell you what, I'll tossx in a little bit of words here and see if I can put you all to sleep.  The idea is, first you use subversion of grab the entire ptxdist directory.  Sorta depends on your net bandwidth, but it's going to take less than 30 minutes, I would think.  Then, you use the same tool you use the configure your Linux kernels (menuconfig).  You actually use canned configs to get yourself started, so that you are presented with an entire cross-compiling setup.  After that, you change the configuration so that it's not building tools anymore, it;s now working on userland, and if beins building those nice iamges for you, depending on how muich patience you have, it could take days to complete.  It's so much fun to watch!

Anyhow, I still need some into about booting, because I'm abysmally dumb about the subject (well, I am about it on the Zaurus!).  What's the kind of image I want, bzImage? what about zImage? or, I think there are other's, also.   What about tools like Lilo, or grub, do I need to worry about stuff like that?  Before I can try my new images out, I need to know a heck of a lot more about booting zaurus kernels

I am talking here about my C3000 ZXaurus, which has that 4G hard disk.  Because I have a filesystem here, I guess, am I right, can I actually ignore having to flash anything?

OK, please let me have some feedback, tell me if I'm on the right track or not, ok?
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I think the reason you aren't getting a response here is because you are posting to the wrong subforum.   OpenZaurus uses the Open Embedded build system.  The system you are working with is, I believe, used to build pdaXrom.  So you might get more of a response in the pdaXrom subforum.  I hope this helps you out.
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OK, then, how about a suggestion for me?  I will tell you enough about ptxdist, so that you can understand my status.  First, it's NOT about pdaxrom, but there is a connection, sure enough, because ptxdist has been (pretty obviously) used to provide the logical base for pdaxom.  hmm, can I use a analogy here?  I like fvwm, but because both fvwm and kde both use X11, you couldn't call kde a piece of fvwm (or vice versa).  Basically, ptxdist is built on these basics:

1) the Linux config (I think you can even get xconfig to work!)
2) a bit of medium complicated gmake macros, and
3) an equal bit of bash scripts.

I like python, but these folks have skipped that, it's not useing it.  The hardest part of figure out is probably the fact that the Linux config system could be better documented but, man, it sure works nicely,

So with this as a background, what place should I stick a post?  Realize, no mstter what you say, I'm probably going to argue with you a bit.

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Need Kernel Info For Zaurus

« on: September 28, 2006, 09:31:03 pm »

OK, lots of follks readd, but no responses.  Either you don't care about the ptxdist stuff at all, or I did a lousy job of telling you ,,, tell me bluntly which it is,  if you do aska question, I'enjoy giving you the info, and if I get rude noises, I won;t take it badly, but  iwill definitely stop bothering you over this.  i really like ptxdist, because I have closer control, and I can see what's ahppeninbg and control things directly.  i like seeing my root filesystem showing up, bit by bit.

Tell you what, I'll tossx in a little bit of words here and see if I can put you all to sleep.  The idea is, first you use subversion of grab the entire ptxdist directory.  Sorta depends on your net bandwidth, but it's going to take less than 30 minutes, I would think.  Then, you use the same tool you use the configure your Linux kernels (menuconfig).  You actually use canned configs to get yourself started, so that you are presented with an entire cross-compiling setup.  After that, you change the configuration so that it's not building tools anymore, it;s now working on userland, and if beins building those nice iamges for you, depending on how muich patience you have, it could take days to complete.  It's so much fun to watch!

Anyhow, I still need some into about booting, because I'm abysmally dumb about the subject (well, I am about it on the Zaurus!).  What's the kind of image I want, bzImage? what about zImage? or, I think there are other's, also.   What about tools like Lilo, or grub, do I need to worry about stuff like that?  Before I can try my new images out, I need to know a heck of a lot more about booting zaurus kernels

I am talking here about my C3000 ZXaurus, which has that 4G hard disk.  Because I have a filesystem here, I guess, am I right, can I actually ignore having to flash anything?

OK, please let me have some feedback, tell me if I'm on the right track or not, ok?
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I think the reason you aren't getting a response here is because you are posting to the wrong subforum.   OpenZaurus uses the Open Embedded build system.  The system you are working with is, I believe, used to build pdaXrom.  So you might get more of a response in the pdaXrom subforum.  I hope this helps you out.
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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Need Kernel Info For Zaurus

« on: September 28, 2006, 09:15:46 pm »

OK, lots of follks readd, but no responses.  Either you don't care about the ptxdist stuff at all, or I did a lousy job of telling you ,,, tell me bluntly which it is,  if you do aska question, I'enjoy giving you the info, and if I get rude noises, I won;t take it badly, but  iwill definitely stop bothering you over this.  i really like ptxdist, because I have closer control, and I can see what's ahppeninbg and control things directly.  i like seeing my root filesystem showing up, bit by bit.

Tell you what, I'll tossx in a little bit of words here and see if I can put you all to sleep.  The idea is, first you use subversion of grab the entire ptxdist directory.  Sorta depends on your net bandwidth, but it's going to take less than 30 minutes, I would think.  Then, you use the same tool you use the configure your Linux kernels (menuconfig).  You actually use canned configs to get yourself started, so that you are presented with an entire cross-compiling setup.  After that, you change the configuration so that it's not building tools anymore, it;s now working on userland, and if beins building those nice iamges for you, depending on how muich patience you have, it could take days to complete.  It's so much fun to watch!

Anyhow, I still need some into about booting, because I'm abysmally dumb about the subject (well, I am about it on the Zaurus!).  What's the kind of image I want, bzImage? what about zImage? or, I think there are other's, also.   What about tools like Lilo, or grub, do I need to worry about stuff like that?  Before I can try my new images out, I need to know a heck of a lot more about booting zaurus kernels

I am talking here about my C3000 ZXaurus, which has that 4G hard disk.  Because I have a filesystem here, I guess, am I right, can I actually ignore having to flash anything?

OK, please let me have some feedback, tell me if I'm on the right track or not, ok?

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Need Kernel Info For Zaurus

« on: September 28, 2006, 04:15:12 pm »

I've been off trying to learn how to use a package system, one named ptxdist.  I've been playing with it a while now, and find I can really use it to build (cross compile)  everything I want to for the Zaurus, including a nice kernel system, but now I need to learn what I'll need to actually install the kernel I;ve buit.  I know what things like bzImages are, in general, but honestly, I don't know if there are certain kernels I should use on the zaurus, or what kind of boot loader is commonly used.  I guess I'm pretty ignorant about this ... if anyone knows more,  could you drop me some notes about mking and loading kernels on the Zaurus?

I can happily trade info, if any of you are uncertain about how to use the ptxdist stuff.  I have that working really well now, and could very likely answer most questions you might have about it.  The pointer for the ptxdist stuff is from:

 http://www.pengutronix.de/software/ptxdist_en.html

They've got hundreds of packages, all available from subversion, and it compiles as easily as, say, Fink packages.

Thanks

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C1000/3x00 Hardware / C3000 Microdrive Replaced With A Cf Card

« on: September 23, 2006, 09:12:16 pm »

It's a long time since you posted this, but maybe you have it working now?  I can't get the 8 Gb Seagate 68022CF to be recognized as a dirve in the expernal CF slot.  I can use a external CF usb doodad, and when it's connected to my linux box, it seems to be fine, but not when connectd to the Zaurus ... can you tell me what fidks setup you finally used?  Maybe include a printout of your fidks output?

Thanks

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C1000/3x00 Hardware / Prepping The Drive

« on: June 19, 2006, 09:01:23 pm »

Well, all you folks who assumed that I didn't know about su were wrong, I did, that was never the problem.  There MAY have been some problem, hda versus hdc, I don't completely understand what's going on there, but what I've been doing is "fdisk /dev/mmcda1", and on that, it's still failing witha "Unable to open mmcda" or "mmcda1" or "mmcda2", I ried all of them.

I treid inserting a known good flash in my CF slot, and it comes up as /dev/hda, so I have tried doing "fdisk /dev/hda", and that comes up slightly differently, with a "Unable to read /dev/hda" instead of "Unable to open ...".  Dmesg show a horde of error messages for hda, too many to list here, but they fall into the categories of "hda:read_intr(status=0x51)",or "status=0x04",  "hda racal_intr" with the same two statuses (51 and 4) and several "ide0 reset" commands..  I think it points to the fact that it's failing to actually READ the disk, somehow.  The disk was already partitioned on my Mac, so that's not the problem.

Anyone know if there's any possible hardware or software difference between the internal and external CF slots?
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Which Model # and firmware is your seagete drive? There were problems with Seagete ST1 drives with firmware newer than 3.03 only working as ide drives and the  Zaurus only being able to deal with CF compatible drives. There were several threads on that issue ~6-8 months ago.
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I have a ST68022CF, date code 06281, P/N 9AN417-501, S/N 3NX0JS1T, I think that there is a FW: 3.01 on tere also.

I begin to suspec taht the fdisk I am using, Sharp's, is no good.  Is ehrt another compatible one somewhere?  I can use my USB writer to write (partition + format) this drive fine on the Mac, so I think it's not a bad drive.  I am seeing error s in /var/log/dmesg that indicate that it can't read the partitining info.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / New Zaurus Software Effort

« on: June 19, 2006, 08:54:42 pm »

Second, I've had some comments says that the OPIE/GPE tools are simple. That's untrue. Try understanding the workings of all those python scripts. You actually CAN do that with the ptxdist stuff, the scripts I saw made sense, and while their documentation level is very, very low, their support level is very very right (maybe as high as the Opie/GPE folks all put together! they have mailing lists, irc channels, and lots of willingness to help.

So, which you might (after a lot of work) be able to understand WHAT the python scrupts are doing, I rather doubt you will get to the level of fixing the python scripts themselves. They are FAR more complicated than the Pengutronix stuff is.

Do they need fixing? Is this a requirement for developing using them? To draw an admittedly absurd parallel, should I have to understand how the Linux virtual memory paging system is implemented to be able to write a "Hello World!" binary in C?

Those of you who suggested staying with either pdaXrom or Cacko: are you aware that pdaXrom IS Cacko? They are one and the same, Cacko was the earlier name, is all.

No. Cacko is based on Sharp's Qtopia, pdaXrom is an x11 based system, this makes them different from a number of points of view (including the build system afaik).

Past that, Sashz controls all of the code with an iron hand, and you CAN'T COMMIT to it, he won't open his archive. If it were open, I would have conributed to it a long time back, when I first tried to teach Sashz the workings of cvs and ssh. If he won't allow it, all I could do is sit aroudn with you folks, but I want to contribute, not just talk about contributing.

You can contribute to OpenEmbedded, we're always looking for more contributors, and not just for code - bug fixing, documentation writing (also for OpenZaurus), there's lots of opportunity for everyone to get involved.

Cheers,


Si
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I said that the Cacko development was closed, and you replied that the OpenEmbedded isn't closed, don't you see your own bias there?  I never said, and certainly never meant, thatn the OpenEmbedded was closed, my comments were ALL about Sashz and his closed shop, and how so many of you oesf folks appear not to mind being frozen out of all possible development.

Just, don't get me erong, you;'ll have the entier world thinking I said that about OpenEmbedded.  My complaint about  OpenEmbedded waas about the size of their tools, and the stability of them, but never about their openness.

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C1000/3x00 Hardware / Prepping The Drive

« on: June 19, 2006, 11:00:04 am »

Well, all you folks who assumed that I didn't know about su were wrong, I did, that was never the problem.  There MAY have been some problem, hda versus hdc, I don't completely understand what's going on there, but what I've been doing is "fdisk /dev/mmcda1", and on that, it's still failing witha "Unable to open mmcda" or "mmcda1" or "mmcda2", I ried all of them.

I treid inserting a known good flash in my CF slot, and it comes up as /dev/hda, so I have tried doing "fdisk /dev/hda", and that comes up slightly differently, with a "Unable to read /dev/hda" instead of "Unable to open ...".  Dmesg show a horde of error messages for hda, too many to list here, but they fall into the categories of "hda:read_intr(status=0x51)",or "status=0x04",  "hda racal_intr" with the same two statuses (51 and 4) and several "ide0 reset" commands..  I think it points to the fact that it's failing to actually READ the disk, somehow.  The disk was already partitioned on my Mac, so that's not the problem.

Anyone know if there's any possible hardware or software difference between the internal and external CF slots?

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C1000/3x00 Hardware / Prepping The Drive

« on: June 18, 2006, 09:22:36 pm »

I have gotten a miracle to pass: the US PO actually delivered something on a Saturday!  I got, Special Delivery, the package from China bearing my new drive.  My problem is, I can't get it to format.  I stuck it into my SL-C3000's external CF slot to format.  I'd previously noted that the Zaurus referred to this as /dev/hda1, so I tried to do fdisk /dev/hda, but it responded with a "Unable to open /dev/hda".  At the sdame time, /proc/partitions was reporting a 7.8 Gb partitin on /dev/hda, and dmesg was reporting a huge host of /dev/hda based errors.

So, zi decided to use my zMac to partition the Seagate, which it worked (via the flash memory write device) just fine.  I made Unix filesystems, which I know won;'t be Zaurus compatible (but the formatting, it ought to be compatible, I think) but the same errors were obtained from the Zaurus.  Will that external CF interface work with the Seagate drive?  Is there any other thing I'm overlooking?

Thanks.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / New Zaurus Software Effort

« on: June 18, 2006, 12:13:12 pm »

Well, I guess it's about time I replied.

First, I think I better say, if you don't do any software yourself, then I don't believe you have any right to even comment upon this.  the phrase "Dutch Uncle" comes to mind here, so if you don't do software, I don't think you have a right to comment, in any way, upon the doing of those who do.  I'm not trying to insult you, but those are my feelings.

Second, I've had some comments says that the OPIE/GPE tools are simple.  That's untrue.  Try understanding the workings of all those python scripts.  You actually CAN do that with the ptxdist stuff, the scripts I saw made sense, and while their documentation level is very, very low, their support level is very very right (maybe as high as the Opie/GPE folks all put together! they have mailing lists, irc channels, and lots of willingness to help.

So, which you might (after a lot of work) be able to understand WHAT the python scrupts are doing, I rather doubt you will get to the level of fixing the python scripts themselves.  They are FAR more complicated than the Pengutronix stuff is.

Those of you who suggested staying with either pdaXrom or Cacko: are you aware that pdaXrom IS Cacko?  They are one and the same, Cacko was the earlier name, is all.  Past that, Sashz controls all of the code with an iron hand, and you CAN'T COMMIT to it, he won't open his archive.  If it were open, I would have conributed to it a long time back, when I first tried to teach Sashz the workings of cvs and ssh.  If he won't allow it, all I could do is sit aroudn with you folks, but I want to contribute, not just talk about contributing.  I suspect those who suggested staying wiht Cacko must have been one of the folks who doesn't themselves write software.  Like I said, those are Dutch Uncles, they don't qualify to comment on a development project if they aren't developers.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / New Zaurus Software Effort

« on: June 17, 2006, 10:21:39 pm »

Not sure why another flavor is being discussed here.

I agree Cresho... If it is fine with Chuckr... I vote to move this to the general topic forum....

Late
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it doesn't bother me, but maybe let this wait at least one day, see what folks who DO their own software say.  If you are relying on Sharp, then it's extremely obvious that you don't do any software yourself, because Sharp hasn't opened up their software, they've only allowed you to sell your apps alongside theirs.  You can't contribute to those who won't take it (which is why I couldn;'t get  along with Cacko (pdaXrom), cause he wouldn't actually take patches.

But as far as moving it, please, I'm not as good as I could be at this (using oesf yet) so I maay have made a mistake in placment, and I wouldn't mind getting it moved, IF it wasn't hidden.

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Deals and Great Z Buys / Dynamism Sl-c1000 For $339 Usd

« on: June 17, 2006, 10:00:25 pm »

http://dynamism.com/sl-c3000/pricing.shtml

I picked one of these up, and it was mint in the package and has been working like a treat.  I got a spare world voltage AC adaptor and everything came to $400 including shipping, which took _two days_ to get to me.

They were very good to me.  It even got stopped at the border and I got a couple of phone calls, but it was cleared up in no time flat and rushed to me.  Fedex even redirected the shipment to my work so I could get it sooner.  =)
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I was wondering if anyone had opened up a C1000, and how it resembles or differs from my C3000?  I just got my Seagate 8 Gb CF disk today (what a marvel!) and it occurred to me, if it was the same inside, if maybe one could buy a C1000, stick a hf hard disk into it, and get a C3000 out of it?

Or am I just dreaming?