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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: January 31, 2006, 11:29:45 pm »

To all using Watapon... I'm sorry. I just don't have the time to continue it's development currently.

I have left the most recent 1.4 and 1.6 versions available on Watapon's website along with the rootfs used to build it, if anyone's interested in trying their hand at it. Those will stay there for as long as I can possibly keep them there (probably a very long time).

If someone's interested, then feel free to download that, poke around a bit, and maybe send me an e-mail if you don't understand how to build or use something there. If you can continue the project, go for it. I would, but I'm sorry... I just don't have the time.

Thanks to everyone's support... It's been fun, and a good experience for me. Maybe next project I work on will be one when I have more time on my hands...

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: December 07, 2005, 03:21:23 pm »

Sorry, nothing new... I've been really busy. It always happens when I try to do something.

And are you sure that it not suspending when the wifi card is active (which I take to mean connected) isn't what's supposed to happen? Because it seems logical that it'd not suspend when it's connected, to me...

If it's not suspending when it's simply in the Z then there's something unusual...

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: September 27, 2005, 08:48:33 pm »

Terribly sorry for my recent 'disappearance'... :/ I've been hellishly busy.

I've been working on other things, but I've decided to try to put those on hold for a while (various websites, other minor non-paying projects), and concentrate on this. Other than one particular website I have to design, Watapon is my main project now.

First, I'll work on 1.6 and give it a final cleanup, fixup, and re-release for the PIM things, etc. Maybe release it as 1.8.

Next, I'll work on version 2. Which will be a basically from-scratch Sharp ROM-style (i.e. RO filesystem with symlinks, GCC 2.95, etc.), using Opie instead of Qtopia.

I'll look into the IR problems in 1.6, but I can't guarantee anything, as my selection of IR devices is rather limited (i.e. a few people with Palms I know)... If someone else can figure out a fix, I'll incorporate it.

For 2, I'll look into the hostap drivers heavily, along with everything else. I also plan to use a custom-compiled 'special kernel' style kernel - but of course you can always use your kernel of choice, as always.

So, with any luck I'll get that clean up of 1.6 done in a week or so, and 2.0 coming along pretty well in a month or so.



As to the PayPal question... Sorry, I don't have any accounts. Maybe I'll look into it when I finish 2. As then I'll actually have something other than just a Sharp ROM-based thing... Something that not just anyone could do easily.

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: July 14, 2005, 09:57:47 pm »

Note that I'm sorry for not having anything done yet. =) I'm on vacation, and I don't have a Linux box with me. But this is high on my list for things to do when I get back. I should return to home... Oh, Wednesday I believe. =)

(I forgot to mention that I'm on vacation before I left last Sunday - I was a bit busy around that time getting things ready to go.)

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: June 30, 2005, 09:46:31 pm »

Opie on Watapon would be a fantastic combination. Not least because opie can rotate the display on the fly !

I've used Opie rotation before (an early OZ for 5600) and it's really great.

Are there any parts of the testing that you want to spin off to the rest of us lemmings?

No testing needed right now - I'm playing with OPIE on my devel laptop right now, deciding what apps to compile in, what to skip. And where to put them - ROM, IPKs, etc. When I have something bootable, I'll let you know.

BTW -does anyone think that we need a new thread???

A new thread, or a new section, could be good... When Opie is on Watapon, we'll be the "odd ROM out"... not OpenEmbedded, not Sharp, not pdaXrom. Maybe when I get a little further into development (i.e., a bootable image), we could request a section.  A new thread could work too. I'll start a new one, if I get un-lazy about it in the next few days.

HERE HERE!! I thnk it great too. That's a whole lot of work , Chaos (& I say that with a lot of jealousy too. I wish i had the time to do that kind of development ;(). I know I can speak for all of us that we really appreciate it.

Good to know it's appreciated. It'll take me some time, even though it's the summer off, because it is somewhat complex, and I have some other things going on (other projects).

What about asking the powers that be for a WATAPON ROM section?

Like I said, once I have something bootable, Watapon will be truly the "odd ROM out". I'll ask when I have something to show for it.

As I decided a while ago to standardize on the kde apps whereever I go, I'd vote strongly to keep them in, or to at least have the ipk's available. PLEASE! If you'd want to have more in the base ROM, then make ipk's of the PIM apps altogether so we'd have a choice of what we use without wasting the space.

A choice is definitely the way I'm leaning. Personally I like how the Opie apps work, and I don't like the size of the KDEPIM apps. But I'll give a choice, and stuff the ROM itself with more useful tools - probably a bunch of internet-related ones.

I'll probably keep most of the Opie apps, where it's practical. Many of them are really nice. I'll probably redo the tab structure, as usual. Make it the same as the original Watapon structure - PIM, Internet, Apps, Games, Utilities, Settings, Documents.

I'm definitely keeping the opie games, in IPKs. Some are damn addictive...

I'll also keep many of Opie's default applets, and IPK the ones that I don't keep. The Today app will be part of the Opie PIM, since that's where it's used... It's a brilliant app.

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: June 29, 2005, 01:36:51 am »

So far with OPIE, I'm building it on my dev machine... Once it finishes, I'll start working on the cross-compiling part of the whole ordeal, although I can't find any set in stone instructions on precisely how I can do that. But I'll figure it out, or find something somewhere.  OPIE looks pretty easy. QT/E not quite so much... It's probably just a couple ./configure switches to set. And then the hard part comes in the form of actually putting together a bootable ROM image, and seeing if THAT works.

OPIE is a very sexy GUI, mind you, which is why I've decided to use it...


Might as well start a mini feature list...

*Opie 1.2
*Most of the core Opie programs
*Opera 7.55 (since it's a great browser)
*Most of the programs added to the Qtopia 1.5 Watapon image
*Probably Opie's PIM, since KDEPIM is getting rather massive... Or maybe IPKs of both

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: June 28, 2005, 05:56:33 pm »

Actually, after reading up on Qtopia 2.1.1, it might not be such a great thing to use. No mail program (which isn't a huge deal...), and no IR support in the free version (which, judging by the recent problems with IR, is more of a required thing)...

So I'm considering trying Opie 1.2 instead. I don't know yet, and I probably won't have much to show for it for a month or so. But Opie 1.2 looks so good... And if I do things right, it should be able to retain it's compatibility with most other Zaurus apps, unlike the hoops you have to jump through for OZ. And for those who want Qtopia still, I can probably continue to do some light maintenance on a default Qtopia version, with the original PIMs, if that's what people want.

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: June 06, 2005, 05:54:41 pm »

Sorry, but I'm out of ideas...

 Like I said, once I get Qtopia 2.1.1 under way, I may be able to find the root of the problem..

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: June 03, 2005, 10:36:43 am »

Might be some specific bug... I'll work on it as I work on getting Qtopia 2.1.1 compiled.

But I have a quick suggestion to try first... Disable any fastloaded programs (especially KDEPIM/Pi), and then try. I have a couple more ideas if that doesn't work too.

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: May 25, 2005, 09:35:18 pm »

dreadlocks - I'm perfectly happy having your feed as the main one. In fact, if you want to do that exclusively, excepting maybe a few things like the user-choosable PIM, I'd be happy.

And on another note, having feeds pre-added doesn't seem to work.. :< It at least has some issues. But I'll definitely link heavily to that feed on this next release.


CURRENT LIST OF TO-ADD STUFF (? = unsure/maybe):
qpdf2
nano + ncurses5
brightness applet
rotation
bzip2
opie-sh
kismet? (many people use it - heavily worth it if one has a wireless network card - which many, many people seem to)
Wellenreiter? (if not kismet, then this? Never used it myself, but if anyone can provide some evidence that it's better than kismet...)
NeIC? (IRC - might be worth it, if enough people who use Watapon use IRC...)


And on the voice recorder to IPK... 1) It's not that large. 2) Only if I run out of room.  Remember, trying to FILL space, not SAVE it currently.



(Maybe I should look into Qtopia 2.1? In fact, if everyone's ok being at 1.6.1 for a bit, I think I shall. Maybe build a ROM more or less ground-up, instead of a modification off of Sharp 1.32. )

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: May 23, 2005, 03:36:10 pm »

Next stable release may be 1.8 with the optional PIM. I'll see how large a change it is, overall.

So, start suggesting 3-4 megs worth of software to fit into where the PIM was.

Preferably stuff almost everyone uses/should use.


Addition: Apparently I have 4115104 bytes of space in the raw initrd.bin...

And the initrd's size is 18953568...

The raw (uncompressed) root is... 36802560

So there's a fair bit of space for things in there.  Maybe 6 uncompressed megs?


Current list of things being considered for inclusion in the next release (with optional PIMs):
openssh-client
nano + ncurses5
bzip2
rotation
opie-sh
brightnessapplet
qpdf2


(Oh yes, by the way dreadlocks, the jeode in your feed - is it a newer version or something? Because if it is, that'll replace the older one.)

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: May 23, 2005, 12:08:15 am »

Is anyone syncing to anything with Watapon ROM installed? Please relate your experiences, if so.

What I want to do is sync to iCal and Addressbook, mostly, bi-directionaly. With the old PIMs I could sync with Outlook, then sync my Palm with Outlook, then sync my Palm with the Mac. It was round about, but it worked great.

Now, I can't seem to find any way to sync KA/pi or KO/pi with even a Windows PC at all. I guess I'm just missing something?

Please help! Thanks!
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I'm working on getting a way of syncing KO/pi and KA/pi with OS X.  It might not be perfect, but it should at least provide a basic structure to syncing it all. Although it may take some time...

And 1.6.2 is taking much more time than intended...

KDEPIM/Pi keeps getting bigger and bigger...  I need to remove something from 1.6.2 to even fit Kopi/Kapi/Ompi... Might remove Zeditor to an IPK...

Or just make the PIM user-installable (Sharp or KDEPIM) and use the 3 or so freed up megs for some real useful stuff.

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Sharp ROMs / Mount Initrd.bin On Linux Box

« on: May 04, 2005, 04:00:27 pm »

Some binaries you can use, some you cannot.

The 5500 and 5000 have ARM4 processors, while the 5600, 6000 and all the clamshells have ARM5 processors. ARM4 binaries can run on ARM5 processors, but not vice-versa. That's why kino2 will not run on 5500s.

Also, some programs (albeit very few) are designed for the larger screen sizes, and will not run on the 5x00 series.

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: April 29, 2005, 08:26:37 pm »

Hi guys,
I have been using watapon 1.6 (with updates).  I am not really a KOPI user/fan and want to "cleanly" remove it from Watapon.  Any suggestion which files to remove. 

I have the original Sharp PIM ipk, and like to use it for it's simplicity.  Can ftp or email it to anyone needs it.

thanx a million.
Zaf
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In simple terms... No, there's no way to remove it*. It was one of the things majorly requested back under 1.4.x/earlier... So it's in 1.6. I had to choose who to please, so I chose the one that'd please me the most.



* You'd have to dig into the read-only part of the FS to truely remove it. Just removing the icons, and deleting the symlinks for the alarm apple in /home/QtPalmtop/plugins/applets/ is the best way to remove all appearance of it...

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Sharp ROMs / Watapon ROM

« on: April 28, 2005, 10:29:25 am »

Hi!
I'm a OZ user and I decided to give a try to Watapon.
It looks very good and everything is working fine. Anyway I have two questions:
-How come that the / partitions is almost empty? In the OZ is almost full with aproximately the same amount of software.
-I installed Media Player package from Watapon feed. The problem is that all the options from Media Player menu are deactivated. This way I can't play anything. Am I doing anything wrong?
Thank you
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1. The true / partition is almost stuffed, but it read-only, like all Sharp-based ROMs, so what you're seeing is the almost-empty nature of the /home partition.

2. I suggest using Kino2 from dreadlocks' feed as a media player.