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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / How To Get Wlan Working On Sl-6000
« on: August 18, 2005, 05:21:02 am »
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Look thru the directions for OZ/Opie again. They mention that you need to start and stop the WiFi via console commands:

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ifup wlan0
ifdown wlan0

My 6000 has worked randomly via the wifi GUI. I am used to executing via the console at this point.

Regards,
jawZ

Thank you for this information. But this brings me to the other problems I described (they are "quasi-recursive" :-).

Since
a) the GUI-Console doesn't start (a.k.a. "Problem 2")
and
b) I don't know how to get back to OPIE after I went into the terminal (a.k.a. "Problem 3"),
this doesn't help me at all.

Thanks
dranath

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / How To Get Wlan Working On Sl-6000
« on: August 11, 2005, 09:37:05 am »
Hello again,

I think I forgot which Software my Zaurus SL-6000 (Tosa) runs on:
OpenZaurus 3.5.3
with
OPIE 1.2.0.

Also I tried to reflash the installation and after the OpenZaurus "Zaurilla" appears I saw following error messages (???) float by on the boot-screen [1], [2]:
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dpemoa: *** Unresolverd symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.14-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/linux-lan-ng/prism2_pci.o
[1] only the first time I booted after the flashing of the Zaurus
[2] maybe not 100-percent correct to the letter because I didn't know how to pause the display - and off it went...

Hope this helps
Thanks
dranath

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / How To Get Wlan Working On Sl-6000
« on: August 11, 2005, 09:19:48 am »
Hello Forum,

today I flashed from the original Sharp-ROM because I wanted to give OpenZaurus and OPIE a try. But there are several things where I didn't find my way around:

Problem 1:
After setting up my "Network Settings" for Wireless-LAN (interface "wlan0") and hit the "Start/Stop"-button, I get the message:
"Starting interface failed"

Anyway, the WLAN-LED lights up green and when I leave the "Network Settings" and enter them again the 802.11b-connection is indicated "up". Also if I hit the "Start/Stop"-button again, there is a register-tab called "802.11b" with status-information about my connection (I even see the Quality of the WLAN-connection decline if I shild the built in antenna with my hands).

So I tried to connect to a web-site using Konqueror, but after some time I recieved the message
"Unknown host www.web.de"

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This brought me to Problem 2:
I tried to get some information from "/etc/resolv.conf", but to get there was tricky because when I wanted to start the "Console" application in the "Applications"-tab it doesn't start but displays the message:
"Console was terminated due to signal code SIGSEGV"
How can I fix this to use the console-application from "inside" OPIE?

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Back to the original "Problem Number One":
Alternatively I logged into the console via the "Start"-menu choosing "Terminal -> 1" and issued
# cat /etc/resolv.conf
to check my DNS-settings - but everything looked like it should.

An
# ifconfig
told me that "wlan0" is up (with all the network-settings I previously put into my machine), but a
# ping -c 5 www.web.de
produced the message
ping: www.web.de: Host name lookup failure

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After some time the screen turned darker and darker (I suppose the screen dimmed with the OPIE-timer even if I was in the "Terminal") and I hardly could make out what my machine was replying to my inquiries (not even button-pressing brought the screen back to light).

So my Problem 3 is:
How do I get back to OPIE after I locked into the Terminal from the "Start"-menu?

Thanks in advance for your help
dranath

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6000 - Tosa / Installation Of X/qt-debian On Sl6000
« on: July 12, 2005, 06:41:10 am »
Hello again,

thanks a lot for your help so far.

I installed X/Qt as far as I could understand [1], but hit another obstacle (which too unfortunately is not described in any manual/tutorial/How-To on the web).

After I'm in X-Environment (I started it issuing "startx" like I do on my Gentoo-Box to fire up KDE for example) I see the gray X-startup screen and then a console-like input window.

Where do I go from there? How can I install Debian-Packages? With "apt-get" I recieve the error-message: "bash: apt-get: command not found".

Is there a way I can check if everything is configured all right? How do I get to the point of the flashy nice windows I saw at http://w3.mecanica.upm.es/~smuelas/debianxqt.html?

Thanks a lot
dranath

[1]

format the Microdrive on my SL-6000L
umount /mnt/cf
mke2fs /dev/hda1

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download the needed IPKGs from
http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/feed-testing/
and copy them on the CF-Card

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package          destination     dependencies
zlib             int flash       none
xbase-clients    Microdrive      none
xbase-etc        int flash       none

xlibs            Microdrive      none
freetype         Microdrive      none
xqt-server       int flash       xlibs, xbase-clients, freetype
xqt-fonts-misc   Microdrive      xlibs

# xbase-etc had to be installed into the internal flash contrary to what the website told

# when I installed the package "xlibs" there was an error message that this package would depend on further packages - but according to the "control.tar"-file from the IPK this is not the case!


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su
vi /etc/fstab
/dev/hda1     /mnt/cf     ext2     defaults     0 0

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testing of X/QT by clicking on the "X/Qt Server"-icon in the "Applications"-tab - a gray background with a mouse-pointer appears

exit this window by pushing the "Pulldown-Menu"-button on the case of the Zaurus and chose "Shutdown" from the appearing menu

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download zaurus-debian-base or <*>-big from
http://pocketworkstation.org/files/
as well as
gnu-tar.gz
from the same location and copy them on the CF-Card, too

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cd /mnt/cf
gunzip gnu-tar.gz

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create the Debian folder
mkdir debroot

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unpack Debian
./gnu-tar -C /mnt/cf/debroot -xvzpf zaurus-debian-big-v0.18.tgz

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final setup procedures

cd /mnt/cf/debroot
touch startd

vi startd
#!/bin/sh
#Startup Commands
export DISPLAY=0:0
swapon /swapfile
/usr/bin/icewm-session
#Shutdown Commands
swapoff /swapfile

chmod 755 startd

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create a 64MB swap file
dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=1024 count=65536

I get the message
65536+0 records in
65536+0 records out

after doing
mkswap swapfile
I recieve the message
Setting up swapspace version 0, size = 67104768

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link the home directory to root
ln -s root home/root

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store the debroot location
pwd > /etc/debroot

### /etc/debroot is called in the .xinitrc

remove the INSTALL.d-directory from the "debroot"-directory since it wasn't used anyways
rm -fr INSTALL.d

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cd /home/zaurus
touch .xinitrc

vi .xinitrc
rxvt
#blackbox (depends on xlibs - which in this stage already is installed - so no dice)

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create a link between /home/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt and /home/QtPalmtop/bin/X
ln -s /home/QtPalmtop/bin/Xqt /home/QtPalmtop/bin/X

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install from http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/feed-testing/ the package
rxvt
with the standard Sharp-Package-Manager

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open up a terminal and issue the command
su

now type
/sbin/chroot /mnt/cf/debroot
to changeroot into your Debian-environment - you will notice a change of the shell from "bash-2.05" to "sh-2.05b"

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6000 - Tosa / Installation Of X/qt-debian On Sl6000
« on: June 14, 2005, 01:51:59 pm »
Hello Forum, thanks adf!

After fiddling around a little bit with Open-Zaurus (OPIE as well as GPE) the last week (on both I didn't get my network running properly), I decided to return to the original Sharp-ROM and instead give XQT and Debian a try.

I tried to follow the description of the installation at:
http://wiki.debian.net/?PocketWorkstationXQT
but I already run into a problem at the very first steps.

As "root" I'm told to append a line to the file "/etc/ipkg.conf" via
# echo "src http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/feed-testing/" >> /etc/ipkg.conf

After checking those changes by
# cat /etc/ipkg.conf
I get
dest root /
dest tmpinst /home/tmp/ipkg/inst
src http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/feed-testing/

When I now issue like I'm told
# ipkg update
I recieve this error:
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sed: -e expression #1, char 27: Unknown option to 's'
Downloading /Packages ...
/Packages: Invalid host name.
ipkg_download: ERROR: Failed to retrieve /Packages, returning
ipkg_update: Error downloading /Packages to /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/feed-testing/

Alternatively I tried to add this URL to the "Add/Remove Software"-Applet of the "Settings"-Tab, but there either my Z froze or I got the error-message:
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ipkg says something went wrong. Sorry
Could somebody please advise me in what I do wrong maybe?
Why does "IPKG" not update?

Thanks for your help and patience in advance.
dranath

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6000 - Tosa / Not Getting Along With Network
« on: June 10, 2005, 06:03:42 am »
Hello Forum,

here I go again.

After trying the OpenZaurus in combination with OPIE without success yesterday night, today I tried it with GPE. And I have to say it was very pleasent. A lot of useful programs already included and nice on the eyes.

Only thing which I missed in the GUI-network-configuration was to set up the nameserver. This I had to do in the console via "vi /etc/resolv.conf" - or did I miss something on the GUI?

When I then inserted my CF-LAN-Card I could browse web-pages with the "Minimo"-Web-Browser, which worked very nice.

But working with a CF-LAN-Card while the SL-6000L has built-in WiFi wasn't exactly what I had in mind. So I looked for something to set up my WLAN-configuration. But where do I set up the wireless networking? I didn't find anything to do so - or do I miss there something, too?

And another question:
Are IPKs for the Sharp-ROM not compatible with the OpenZaurus-ROM (I think to remember to have read otherwise)? I tried to install a vocabulary-trainer (myTrainer-Quiz from http://www.elsix.org) which I had running on my Z when it was powerd by the Sharp-ROM - but now under OpenZaurus & GPE I couldn't even install it [1].

[1]
I'm sorry I'm not able to tell you the error message. But since I'm going by bus for seven hours today in the evening I wanted to practice a little bit of Italian with this Program and switched back to the Sharp-ROM for the moment.

Thanks
dranath

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6000 - Tosa / Not Getting Along With Network
« on: June 09, 2005, 04:39:05 pm »
Hello Forum,

today I decided to give OpenZaurus 3.5.3 a try and installed it on my SL-6000.

Going to the "Settings"-Tab and starting the "Network"-Application I configured my connection to the WLAN-Access-Point by configuring a static IP.

When I then start the built in wireless lan I get an error message stating "Starting interface failed" while the WLAN-LED is light up green - and can ping inside my local network.

When I the quit the "Network"-Application and enter it again and want to configure my WLAN again by clicking "Configure", I get a totally different Menu compared to the first configuration. Now there I can chose the mode of operation (Infrastructure, Auto, Managed and Ad-Hoc), type in the Session-ID, specify an Access-Point (AP) and the Channel as well as the WEP-Encryption - which I did according to the values of my AP.

When I now start up the Konqueror-Web-Browser, configure the Proxy needed at my University and type in an URL, I either get a "Timeout on server" or "Unknow host <URL>".

And when I use my CF-LAN-Card, no networking at all!

Did somebody encounter something similar like this, too? If yes or no, how can I help out with some more information (but I didn't do more than I described), i.e. where can I find some log-files where I could dig in for more information?

Thanks in advance
dranath

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6000 - Tosa / Installation Of X/qt-debian On Sl6000
« on: May 12, 2005, 04:16:31 am »
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don't sweat the jfv instructions too much. most instructions you can find here will work.
Here my problem already begins: If I am searching for a simple phrase like "xqt install 6000" I get:
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Sorry, but we did not find any matches to display. Try again and broaden your search criteria. If you were searching for new posts since your last visit, it's possible that there are none to show.I don't know - is there something wrong with the search-function of the board or am I doing something fundamentaly wrong (which could be the case as well :-)?

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use xqt2 from feed/testing. i think smuelas covers that. do xbase clients and xlibs  and similar obvious x stuff 1st. then do fonts-misc rxvt blackbox xqt server 1.9 and startup scripts.  you should pretty much be ok from there.
 as a side note... you can do the full pocketworkstation install on version .18.  ( the INSTALL.d/postinst.sh stuuf--- though you might say no to starting Vncserver and Fbvnc 1st time around--- see the xqt on 3000 thread) I have had keymap issues with the fbvnc viewer, but the server side works great, and you can use opie-keypebble to view debian after you start Vncserver. xqt seems to work as well after this installation as it did without it.
Sorry, but could you please be a little bit more elaborate? Half of the information you give me I don't even understand. I managed to get Gentoo running on my Desktop-System, but I confess only because the Gentoo-Community produced a wonderful and great step-by-step installation manual.

So I fear Xqt will not be suited for me if the installation is too complicated - but on the other hand I would love to have the publicly available and free Debian-software on my fingertip running on my SL6000. Oh man, I fear I have to clone myself to have much more time to dig into this stuff :-)...

And again my question:
Can I access my Z with the USB-Cradle via SSH on the Sharp-Rom - to be able to install the required packages while a microdrive is in the CF-Slot rather than my LAN-Card (I don't have a WLAN Access-Point at hand...)?

Thanks for your help
dranath

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6000 - Tosa / Installation Of X/qt-debian On Sl6000
« on: May 11, 2005, 05:38:31 pm »
Hello Forum,

from the Page:
http://w3.mecanica.upm.es/%7Esmuelas/debianxqt.html
I got a pretty good look on what it could be like.

Unfortunately searching this forum didn't yield any information on the in the installation-instructions of "jfv" which are mentioned in the document above.
Can somebody help me out on this?

Or even better, did somebody document his installation of Debian/Xqt on his SL6000? The last update of the document mentioned above was some time around the beginning of December...

But because I want to install Debian on a Microdrive, there is another problem. The Microdrive will fill the CF-Slot and won't allow me to connect via a CF-LAN-Card to the network any more. Can I maybe get access to the network via the USB-Cradle? Is there also maybe a "cookbook-like-instruction"/How-To?

And if so, can I then access the Z (still running with the original Sharp-Rom) via SSH and "remote-control" the installation of Debian/Xqt?

Thanks in advance for your patience
dranath

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Software / Which Rom For A Sl-6000l Recommended?
« on: April 08, 2005, 10:24:37 am »
Thanks for the reply again, adf.

But at first a question:
What does the abbreviation "w/" mean? Google couldn't help me... I already saw it several times somewhere else, but couldn't figure it out. Is there an official standard?

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opie is qt based and can be used to run older sharprom apps through "compat-libs" it is very pretty
I think to have read somewhere that Trolltech did close the source for Qt? Is this the case? If so, I'm sure in the long run it will not be as good as supported as it seems to be the case right now (by volunteers).

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GPE is X based matchbox gui. less software right now, and no shot at compat w/ the sharprom qt software.
Yes, X and GTK+ seem to be fine. But how does the 400 MHz of the SL-6000 get along with X? If I start X11 to work with OpenOffice.org on my Apple G4 PowerBook, it takes considerable time. Or do I have a wrong notion of X(11)?

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I would say stick w/ sharp for now and then have a look at OZ 3.5.3 (both opie and gpe). 3.5.2 was very cool, but noticeably unpolished on the 6k.
Damn, now that I have time to fool around a little bit I have to wait until I'm bogged down in my studies again - argh :-)! I think I'll give Debian an try.

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guylhem is working on some very cool mods to the sharp setup (see the fast kernel thread) I use his kernel and libSDL and my 6k runs very nicely.
I'll have a look at this, too.

Thank you very much and have a nice weekend
dranath

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Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Oz Documentation Project
« on: April 07, 2005, 06:10:35 pm »
Hello guys,

I only recently registered in this forum and right now I'm still looking which ROM to dedicate my SL-6000L to :-).

So I would like to contribute my gained knowledge to the manual-efforts if I decide on to run OpenZaurus with OPIE or GPE.

But one question:
Browsing the Homepage of openembedded.org I saw their Wiki. Would it be possible to ask them to be able to put the manual there? So everybody registered and working with OpenZaurus would be able to contribute to the manual - and not have a single person to maintain it (and in case recode the html-pages sent to him/her).

Greetings
dranath

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Software / Which Rom For A Sl-6000l Recommended?
« on: April 07, 2005, 05:33:14 pm »
Thanks for the imediate reply, adf!

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Take a look at the 6000 general discussion thread
When I registered for the forum and posted, I seem to have clearly overlooked the dedicated SL-6000-Forum...

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look at the xqt forum for debian --pocketworkstation
So the Debian/XQt runs on top of the Sharp-Rom?
Pro would be, that I don't have to worry about setting my SL-6000 whole new up when I don't like it.
But on the negative side, there seem to be a lot of people complaining about speed issues because of the simultanious use of the processor by two operating systems (how does this affect the power-drain?)

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OZ 3.5.2 has some cool stuff, but is a 1st release on the 6k.
OZ 3.5.3 seem like it will be coming soon
What is keeping me from jumping on the OZ-train, is that the native Linux-programs seem to have to be reconfigured ("ported"?) to work with OZ. What about a program which was not ported - yet or never will be? How difficult is this to do it myself? Is this even possible or do I have to wait for the developers of the program to do so (i.e. do the programmers have to write their programm whole new for the ARM-processor?)?

Another question concerning OpenZaurus: What is the difference there between OPIE and GPE?

Thanks
dranath

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Software / Which Rom For A Sl-6000l Recommended?
« on: April 07, 2005, 04:32:37 pm »
Hello Forum,

around Christmas last year I rewarded myself with a SL-6000L.

But apart using this great device for offline-reading of some news-webpages (with a custom-built wget-script) I found no time to tweak it much.

But since Sharp seems not to provide Software-support or updates any more, I think about a change to a more up-to-date ROM.

I run Gentoo-Linux on my Desktop-PC and _love_ "portage" with it's "emerge"-process: automatic download of all the source-code and all it's dependencies and then compiling it optimized for my machine is just great.

Is there something like this available for the SL-6000L? (Ok, compiling programs with it's 450 MHz might be rather time consuming...)

I heard of a ARM-tree of Debian. The GNU-License and it's free availability of a vast amount of programs is very apealing - but how much effort does it take? Does it run out of the box?

How did Open-Zaurus work out (about two years ago I had it shortly on my SL-5500G but after sync-problems with my Windows-Desktop at this time made me switch back to the Sharp-ROM at this time)? How is the availability of programs?

Are the other open-source ROMs to consider? What are their respecitve pros and cons?

I would like to do:
- a graphical user interface (Qt, X, OPIE?)

- surf the Internet (i.e. read web-pages "offline")

- listen to music (XMMS like on my Gentoo-Linux-Desktop?)

- syncronise/date-transfer - if possible vie USB-Cradle/-Thin-Cable

- maybe watch movies (XINE like on my Desktop? - even if I don't have a clue yet how to get the movies from my DVDs on my Zaurus with the appropriate resolution and codec...)

- maybe programming and testing of Perl-code (including Database-queries)

A lot of questions, which I would like you to help me find a starting point. Is there for example something else to consider?

Thanks in advance
dranath

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