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Software / Gentoo On Zaurus

« on: September 05, 2006, 08:36:48 pm »

Soooo... gyver, any news? 
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I'm still at the findutils stage but I didn't have time to spend on the Zaurus (one of my system crashed and I had to reinstall tonight among other distractions...).

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Software / Gentoo On Zaurus

« on: August 31, 2006, 06:48:13 pm »

Also found the cross-distcc howto here! I hope it helps   

Regards
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This is the howto I followed  
I've managed to get past linux-headers, hit the same problem later with uclibc (I have a workaround involving disabling distcc). Now findutils doesn't want to build properly

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arm-softfloat-linux-uclibc-ar cru libfindtools.a finddata.o fstype.o parser.o pred.o tree.o util.o version.o
arm-softfloat-linux-uclibc-ranlib libfindtools.a
arm-softfloat-linux-uclibc-gcc  -Os -pipe -mcpu=xscale -mtune=iwmmxt -frename-registers -ffast-math -fno-strict-aliasing -msoft-float -malignment-traps -mlittle-endian -fno-common -mfp=3   -o oldfind  find.o ./libfindtools.a ../lib/libfind.a ../gnulib/lib/libgnulib.a
arm-softfloat-linux-uclibc-gcc  -Os -pipe -mcpu=xscale -mtune=iwmmxt -frename-registers -ffast-math -fno-strict-aliasing -msoft-float -malignment-traps -mlittle-endian -fno-common -mfp=3   -o find  ftsfind.o ./libfindtools.a ../lib/libfind.a ../gnulib/lib/libgnulib.a
./libfindtools.a(finddata.o):(.bss+0x54): multiple definition of `starting_desc'
find.o:(.bss+0x0): first defined here
./libfindtools.a(finddata.o):(.bss+0x58): multiple definition of `program_name'
find.o:(.bss+0x4): first defined here
./libfindtools.a(finddata.o):(.bss+0x5c): multiple definition of `predicates'
find.o:(.bss+0x8): first defined here
./libfindtools.a(finddata.o):(.bss+0x60): multiple definition of `last_pred'
find.o:(.bss+0xc): first defined here
../gnulib/lib/libgnulib.a(closeout.o): In function `close_stdout':
closeout.c:(.text+0x30): warning:
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
distcc[31426] ERROR: compile (null) on localhost failed
make[3]: *** [oldfind] Error 1
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
../gnulib/lib/libgnulib.a(closeout.o): In function `close_stdout':
closeout.c:(.text+0x30): warning:
make[3]: Leaving directory `/mnt/hdd/portage/tmp/portage/findutils-4.3.0/work/findutils-4.3.0/find'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/hdd/portage/tmp/portage/findutils-4.3.0/work/findutils-4.3.0/find'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/hdd/portage/tmp/portage/findutils-4.3.0/work/findutils-4.3.0'
make: *** [all] Error 2
I'll work on it tomorrow.

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Software / Gentoo On Zaurus

« on: August 30, 2006, 05:25:37 pm »

Just hit a problem with linux-headers and distcc : the object files were compiled for an x86... I'll have to check how to workaround this (probably by patching an ebuild or eclass). Works without distcc though.

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Software / Gentoo On Zaurus

« on: August 30, 2006, 11:30:21 am »

Sounds *really* cool. Should I assume this would only work on C3K's, not C860's or C1K's with external microdrives? I guess even if it *did* work, we'd lose the CF slot anyway (no wifi, nic's, etc).
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For the C860, I'm not sure (I'm trying to use iwmmxt as gcc's cpu target), currently xscale is used instead of iwmmxt as at least bash can not compile with iwmmxt). For the C1K it will be OK as long as you can store the partition somewhere and chroot into it.

The ultimate goal is to bypass OpenZaurus and use altboot to load a Gentoo-compiled kernel and maybe (only maybe) automate the install without OpenZaurus but I probably won't need it myself as OpenZaurus is quite good in itself and probably will be used on my Zaurus as a rescue partition.

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Software / Gentoo On Zaurus

« on: August 30, 2006, 11:02:33 am »

...you may want to package that with a distcc cross-compilation howto as well ... installing new Gentoo software takes long enough on my Athlon 3200+; I can't imagine the fun compiling something big on the poor li'l Z...

Having said that, this is a great project.  Good luck with it!
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Of course. The zaurus isn't so bad for compiling (I've done perl and python already and that was under one hour) but distcc rocks and I had to find out how to do cross compiling with distcc. Fortunately Gentoo is especially helpful for this the setup of the server and the client only imply simple setups (use "crossdev" to automate the cross-compilation env install on the servers and some symlinks on the client to a hand-written one liner script), I'll include them in the HOWTO for reference.

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Software / Gentoo On Zaurus

« on: August 30, 2006, 10:36:43 am »

I'm currently trying to install Gentoo on my Zaurus C3K. The main reason for that if that I want to benefit from the huge Portage software repository.

I've managed to :
- set up a chroot based on the latest uclibc stage3 (on a 384M partition, 200M currently used),
- set up ccache and distcc to compile on my two x86 and x86_64 systems,
- set up a backup/restore system based on rsync to quickly revert a faulty chroot to the last known good version,
- bork the chroot several times :-)

The chroot is accessed through OpenZaurus GPE (in fact the bootstrap is plainly sufficient as I close X to free RAM...). The Zaurus connects to my local Wifi network in order to distribute compile tasks through distcc and download source packages on the local HD.

Currently I'm battling with gcc CFLAGS (gcc 3.4.6 -march=(or -mcpu=)iwmmxt doesn't work and it seems we must use some other flags, probably "-malignment-traps" I fetched from a wifi driver Makefile, or a freshly compiled distcc spit outs alignment traps in the kernel logs and sit up eating CPU doing nothing).

If all works well I'll have a base system up to date in the next few days for others to try if there's interest.

I'll reformat this post in a HOWTO as soon as I've enough experience to make it worth sharing with others.

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Off Topic forum / 6.8ghz Cpu, 1tb Ram And 2tb Hdd Notebook

« on: September 08, 2005, 05:06:25 am »

...
what do you guys think?

anyone knows the tech behind this monster?
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This is definitely a cheap fake. First when they open the "CPU cover" they point to some "Optical lenses" that are right behind the cover, facing it: where would the beams go? I'll let go the fact that optoelectronics don't use lenses (and not cheap CDROM writer ones at that)...
Second, everything in the monster is maxed out!?! What are the odds that a small, unknown single company would make a breakthrough in CPU, storage and memory at the same time?
Third: have a look around the rest of the site. The pictures on the "home" section are clearly jokes: people in white suits using a dashboard? The 3 white mens "working" on the right don't even have glowes (and the room is suspiciously messy for a dust-free zone).
And to conclude: all these pictures were taken which a cheap camera, probably a phone. What are the odds of that for a company that should have tens of millions of budget only to rent the clean-rooms...

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C1000/3x00 General discussions / Is Shirtpocket Still Trading?

« on: August 19, 2005, 07:52:05 am »

Waited nearly 2 months for a C3000 from them and couldn't get in touch with them in the meantime (lots of frustration). But I know at least one person that got a C860 in a matter of days and could get them on the phone to sort things out at the last minute (he changed the delivery address).

I'll stay away from them unless someone finally answers the phone which would probably mean that they would have resolved their relocation problems.

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C1000/3x00 General discussions / Sdio/battery Life On The C3k

« on: August 18, 2005, 04:28:49 am »

It doesn't have SDIO capability.

Are you sure? Surprising, since the PXA270 programmer's manual clearly state SDIO capability (chapter 15). Look for it on Intel's site.

Maybe there are few devices and even fewer drivers, but it seems the hardware supports it.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Keep Pdaxrom Alive

« on: August 17, 2005, 12:31:11 pm »

You developers are doing a great job, but if you want your userbase to support you, unlike some of the other roms, you really need to incorporate user feedback more readily, ok it will mean spending time doing things you might not exactly want to do, but it will also finance you doing the things you do want to do.

Who else agrees with this?
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Me!
A small webapp where contributing users can add requests, the developpers can price them and the users can split their contributions (set by the devs when the money is received) amongs requests would be ideal.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Keep Pdaxrom Alive

« on: August 16, 2005, 10:17:56 am »

Did you receive a donation of roughly $80 two weeks ago by moneybookers from lionel-shopping@somedomain? I monitored the donat-o-meter but didn't see anything matching my donation (went from $35 to $95 by $30 steps last time I checked, today it is at $220).

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Little Incentive For C3k Support

« on: August 04, 2005, 10:16:32 am »

Just emptied my moneybooker account... Hope it will help development. In particular C3k's.

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Qt/Qtopia / Chkhinge - Any Idea What This Program Does

« on: August 02, 2005, 05:58:36 pm »

...and 3 for closed.
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Couldn't resist the urge to test :
if you press the little button closest to the keyboard which is pressed when the shell is closed while running this in a console (you can't type anything on the keyboard when this button is pressed) :
"while true; do clear; chkhinge; echo $?; sleep 1; done" you'll get "1" : a bit is set when a button is pressed, the closest is the less significant bit, the other is the most significant.

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Sharp ROMs / Cacko C3000 Stuck In Portrait Mode

« on: August 01, 2005, 06:17:29 pm »

Hi, I've just had to reflash cacko 1.23b1 on my C3000 because of a really weird orientation problem. I was listening to music in Kino2 and did various experiments to try to make the Zaurus *not* suspend itself when closing the shell (the idea was to play music with the C3000 closed in my pocket). I guess I managed to get it confused enough about the orientation.

The end result was that when the screen was in portrait position, the orientation was fine, but when the screen was in landscape position, the applications were launched upside-down (yes upside-down! I had to learn quickly how to type looking at the keyboard reversed...), aligned to the right of the screen, with what seemed to be the same width they would have had in portrait mode (ie: 480 instead of 640 px). The Qtopia taskbar was always on the right in the "portrait" position no matter what happened.

I tried rebooting the C3000 without success so a config file was definitely borked in some way, but I have no idea which one. Any hints ? (the C3000 is only a week old, reflashing and resetting the user data isn't a problem yet, but it will quickly be one).

By the way I booted Cacko after flashing it without erasing the user data (Ok boot menu, "3", "1" sequence) and the problem was still here and only went away after going through the "user data in the basket" procedure.

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Sharp ROMs / Which Sharp-based Rom Do You Use?

« on: August 01, 2005, 12:10:14 pm »

I voted Cacko 1.22 but in fact I use 1.23b1 on my C3k