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C1000/3x00 General discussions / Is This An Old Sharp Product Or A New One?

« on: January 21, 2007, 07:40:13 pm »

Just spotted this at Conics.net:

http://conics.net/shop/frames/index-frames.html

(Now that I just paid a small fortune for a C3200;  I see this.)
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This is not the same family at all : [a href=\"http://www.pdafrance.com/articles/article.php?cat=testsultraportable&id=442]http://www.pdafrance.com/articles/article....portable&id=442[/url]

Sorry, it is in french but specifications are easy to understand

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Openbox Replacement

« on: December 09, 2006, 08:58:02 am »

I actually couldn't find openbox call ini .xinitrc

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hum that's strange :
vi /home/root/.xinitrc

line 81:
openbox 2>/dev/null >/dev/null

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Openbox Replacement

« on: December 09, 2006, 08:41:14 am »

hi all. Do anyone knows where openbox wm is called while starting X? I'd like to try matchbox-window-manager, but I don't know where should I replace the wm starting command.

Thank you all
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change this in ~/.xinitrc

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Pdaxrom.org Down Again?

« on: December 07, 2006, 04:50:58 pm »

Anyone else noticing it today or is it just me.  Actually I can't hit it from a proxy either....       
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No, it's not only you. It's working morning time (france time). I ended up just mirroring everything localy.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Sl-c1000 Usb Options

« on: November 28, 2006, 01:47:05 pm »

Are usb flash memory keys supported and can they run without a powered hub.

I Use 2 kind of them (1g & 512mo) with no problem

Are there any usb mice out there that work without a powered hub?

Each one I tried works without hub, so with Zaurus only, laser mice generaly.

What is the usb power output for a sl-c1000?

Not quite sure, I heard 300mA

How many usb devices can one run from an usb hub at the same time?

My Maximum is 4: 1 mouse, 1 ethernet adapter, 1 keyboard, 1 stock. WIth no need of plug the hub external power cable.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Java In Pdaxrom

« on: November 28, 2006, 01:52:25 am »

the classpath and jamvm packages seem to have gone, at least the Packages file does not show them anymore. where can i find those ipk files now?
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[a href=\"http://www.karma-lab.net/zaurus/stable/Packages]http://www.karma-lab.net/zaurus/stable/Packages[/url]

There is just a bug with the index.html generator that is stopping at one point for some reasons but ipks are still there (http://www.karma-lab.net/zaurus/stable/classpath_0.92_armv5tel.ipk)

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Beta1 Vs Rc121

« on: November 24, 2006, 03:02:35 am »

I will try to answer your questions as soon as possible... but if you want to use vmplayer, under a seperate OS to do compiling because you dont want to spare a pc... why can't you just just use vmplayer an boot off the cd?

I'm not sash or laze but I believe this was done to elimated a lot of questions being asked prior about things not working... it is was all due to files the user was missing... and or operating system incompatibilities... Yes, I did ask the question before about it, and I believe that is what the dev's were trying to accomplish...

But as I said earlier, Myself, Sash and Laze (and others willing to help) are working on getting all the bugs out of the system and also updating the documentation...

Give us a little bit and we will try and step it up a little bit...

Late
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First my apologize, I was really tired tonight and my post was more bitter than what I felt in reallity. I know you are not laze or sash and this was not against you as you was the only one how dare answering my b121 bugs questions in the bugtracker (by the way, the host cable trick works perfectly).

About VMWare, openZaurus, as far as I know do the same job as pdaX86 but in a "simple" linux env. Using vmware eat resources whatever you do, at least memory. And that's in my opinion a waste of time dealing with wrong keyboard layout, installing missing softwares, etc... But why not if it was just working ou of the box (if this this the target of this so special distribution), but it is not...

Has I tried to explain (but my english is far from perfect and lack nuances) I really appreciate the work on pdaXrom, I'm using it for 2 years now on an everyday base. I seen work and evolution from the first RC I tried. But as a user that don't want to step back (kind of free software philosphy I think), I'm just getting frustrated not knowing what's going on. I made a lot documentation for Zaurus (in french, sorry  and 2/3 of it is only for pdaXrom. But I'm at a point that I just can go further with so few documentation, and most important, more informations and news, etc... And I think what really upseted me is to discover that all posts sent in bugtracker just deseapered overnight with no explanation (I leaved a message asking why but no answer). That is feedback illusion.

Just an other example, you say you are working on bugs, and improving this or that. But do you imagine the double work done by users if they don't know exactly what is in the pipe ? We try to add whatever application, having hard time to compile it and discover that, finally, it is now included in the next beta, waste of time. I wanted to fix the usb module trying to make usb storage gadjet working (at least try ;-) but perhaps I'll discover tomorrow that the new beta is already solving this issue, waste of time again.

So my post was too bitter but my frustration, is real even if I really  appreciate all the work to make this distrib. Perphaps it is more frustration just because of that ;-)

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Beta1 Vs Rc121

« on: November 23, 2006, 07:45:29 pm »

pdax86 LiveCD

It contains the building software...

Developement Write Up

Theres the documentation...

Late
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Oh well, I see. To be honnest I *already* read this and if I just follow the process I end up with a bunch of compilation errors at the very middle of the chaintool building.

Don't take it the wrong way, I know that writting clear documentation is kind of a real work. But here, for us (at least for me) it is a real guess game... choosing the right configuration at the first place, fighting with wrong url for sources to finally end up with strange double-symlink errors in my case after hours is kind of a frustration... So when I was asking for a documentation, it was more a *real* experience of someone who built b121 from scratch, step by step.

No offence here, but anyone can observe that we can have very quickly a lot of missing softwares for pxr in just no time. Thank's to the cross-compiling package. But when it is about the "underground" stuff (wifi problems, usb problems, etc...), we have to follow Sashz pace. It is very difficult to contribute and I think the lack of solid documentation is part of the problem.

While we are in the subject, an other part of this problem is the lack of information/commucation. As an example, leaving messages in pxr bug tracking is point less when everything deseapear overnight.  An other example, with b3 there was two chaintools, in b4/121, I didn't find any information about hard float/soft float chains, is it still needed ? Is the "soft" one can do the job now ? Mysterie... There is a beautiful shiny website where the last news is 2 months ago...

Well, it's late and perhaps did I spent to much time trying to figure out how to build this stuff. By the way, is there any serious reason for the need of this pdaXrom image ? It's kind of amazing to cross-compile in this psoedo-i386 distribution using vmplayer (because noone have a spare PC dedicated to this..).

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Beta1 Vs Rc121

« on: November 23, 2006, 05:41:01 pm »

ULhume, are you talkin about the usb module on the Z... or the USB driver for XP? if for xp you would have to follow what Meanie posted above...

Late
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No ) No XP for me, far too toxic for my organism... I just wanted to build some patch to the kernel 2.6 pxa usb driver.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Beta1 Vs Rc121

« on: November 23, 2006, 01:32:54 pm »

Bt works... wifi works... ipk works (gui doesnt)... well the gui does... just it the refresh button...

I'm lookin for alternate means of managing ipkgs...


But no there really is no way... the reason alot of things aren't working correctly is because we had to change alot of things in the rom due to changeing to 2.6 kernel... alot of the thinging that worked with 2.4 dont work that same with 2.6 and changes needed to made... we are working out all the bugs as I type and we are hope to have another stable release in the near future...

Late
Late
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Just a question InSearchOf, is there any comprehensive document explaining how to build from scratch b121 ? And by the way, I didn't find b121 builder on the website... I'd like to fix this **** usb driver but if I follow the documentation I just end up with an explosion ;-)

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Beta1 Vs Rc121

« on: November 23, 2006, 11:44:13 am »

But my question is: it's possible to swap 2.6 kernel in beta1?

As far as I know the "problems" with b4/b121 come from kernel 2.6  so the real difference between b3 and b4 is this very swap... In kernel 2.6 there is no "original" binary drivers from Sharp, so that's a reason why there is some problems (ex. SD speed, usb as storage) and an other reason is driver developpement level (ex. Wifi drivers for my Symbol don't handle scanning in 2.6).

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Blender

« on: November 16, 2006, 04:23:57 pm »

I hope your not serious about beryl, it's a bitch to get working on some recent distros with certain hardware (yes, I'm looking at you ATI!!)
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Tell me about it, I spent a complete night trying to install it on my wife's laptop (S3 SavagePro). I juste gave up. Now, for me, beryl = nVidia, full-stop

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Blender

« on: November 16, 2006, 10:20:45 am »

I did some simple rendering benchmarks.

WATER_BUMP.BLEND
640x480 ripple640.png 6m 51s
320x200 ripple320.png 1m 15s
160x100 ripple160.png 22s

WARP.BLEND
640x480 warp640.png 1m 58s
320x200 warp320.png 54s
160x100 warp160.png 29s

PET2.BLEND
720x306 pet720.png 1m 51s
360x153 pet360.png 45s
180x76 pet180.png 22s

VOLUMETRIC2.BLEND
700x400 vol700.png 8m 16s
350x200 vol350.png 1m 54s
175x100 vol175.png 49s

Wow, not so bad !

Have you been peaking into my brain?

LOL  That could be fun )) But I'm not sure beryl allowed non hardware rendering. I'm not a 3D guru at all but my attempts to run without 3D GPU just failed.

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Java In Pdaxrom

« on: November 16, 2006, 08:27:11 am »

I noticed that jamvm and classpath are in both the not-tested and the standard feed of ULhume.
ULhume, which one is the new one? Maybe mjotad installed the old one?
daniel
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Yep your right I think, I made clean up on the feeds, the right checksums are :
100759ca03ae785c7af98a60e88fd9f3  feed/not-tested/classpath_0.92_armv5tel.ipk
526cda0c181df24f7eb0bc03c4edb945  feed/not-tested/jamvm_1.4.4_armv5tel.ipk

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Zaurus - pdaXrom / Sun Java Me Runtime Environment Available

« on: November 16, 2006, 05:08:43 am »

Can you recommend a good place to start learning Java, as I have no experience with it. I have been learning C# for a while though. Is the language similar/the same as the java implementation in .Net?

cheers
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First of all, for any .Net lover reading what's follow, there is no such a thing that a better language, better OS or better religion... so no burst please

So first, .net is mostly the same implementation as Java... Not the inverse, Java is older ;-) Anyway, competition is good and Java would never have move so quickly for the last 2 years (jdk 1.5, GPL, etc...) if there was no .Net danger around. And .Net has also pretty good ideas that should be integrated in Java.

1/ About virtual Machines: .Net born because Sun didn't accept to play nicely with Microsoft when they wanted to hack the JVM for their own purpose (mainly com/dcom internal support, windows and office integration, etc..). So they made a .net VM that is actually very very close (performance wise) to jvm. So don't be fool, I have practical facts (actually a full benchmarking process) proving that Java is not slower than .Net at execution time, even if .net application are quicker at start up time. The main reason of this is the stupid java "design" for libraries management. A painfull historical mystake.

2/ languages: C# and Java are very closed and are both good beasts. My personal opinion (2 cents one ;-) is that C# was more desined to seduce C++ developpers allowing things that Java will never let go. Anyway there is just little differences between the two languages. You'll learn them very quickly ( see [a href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_C_Sharp_and_Java]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_C_Sharp_and_Java[/url] ). C# was designed by the "creator" of Delphi and you can feel he seed in this stuff, like properties for example, something that Java really miss...  

3/ Libraries: for features implementation Java is a complete differente word. You'll have same functionnalities (Xml, drawings, etc...) but with a different philosophy. But with google you'll quickly find correspondances.

Now, that is just my own mixture of facts and opinion. I used, honestly, both, Java and c#/.net  (when you work for a software ingeneering company, you have to follow what customers want, even if I don't agree with directions ;-). And I still prefere Java...