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General Discussion / Zsi2 Tie-breaker Vote
« on: December 21, 2004, 04:59:32 pm »
The original zsi2 layout contest ended in a tie.  In order to remedy this, I have taken the two guys tied for #1 and given them their own poll.  To be able to get everything done on time though, the poll will only last until Friday, December 24th at around midnightish (I say around because I will be in Florida on vacation and I gotta find internet at that hour)

The final results from the last contest are:

[ 29 ] - skoopie
[ 29 ] - yzord

[ 9 ] - BY626
[ 8 ] - Chaos
[ 7 ] - network.guy
[ 5 ] - dz
[ 4 ] - Doc
[ 3 ] - Current ELSI Layout
[ 2 ] - fuupcomp

Here are the links for the tied layouts for #1:


Remember to post which layout you are voting for since they each have more than one layout.  You just need to post the name of the file or the name of the layout, and not the actual layout itself.

The original contest thread is located here:

Good luck to both yzord and skoopie

ELSI General Discussion / Some Help Arranging Projects..
« on: December 02, 2004, 09:32:48 pm »
Anyone wanna volunteer some time in helping weed out spam and rearranging projects for the new ELSI?

Basically, what we'd need you to do is just browse through the site.  When you find a piece of spam, report the project and we'll handle that.

Your elsi account will be set to a moderator account and when you find a project that you think is in the wrong category, you can simply move it to the right category.

There are literally thousands of projects, so doing this part on my own could take hours upon hours.

If you're interested, reply here and I'll set you up with an account.  

Thanks guys ~

Python / Moved Posts
« on: November 25, 2004, 02:20:03 am »
If there any posts you guys want moved into this forum, let me know or just post the URL in here.

ELSI News / Elsi Spam Reports
« on: November 23, 2004, 12:30:12 am »
The ELSI is up live and in beta.  First off, I wanna thank JCroto1 for submitting all his spam reports.    When we imported the data from the old ZSI, there was A LOT of spam and there still is a good chunk.  Hopefully we'll get all of it out before full live launch.

If you guys want to help, join us at and just browse through.  When you find a piece of spam, click on 'Report This Project' and let us know.  All you have to do is enter 'spam' in the report box.

As well, if you sign up for an account now, it will transfer over when the ELSI is final.

If you have submitted a project to the old ZSI, you will be able to claim it on the ELSI.  I will soon have that module written up and when I do, I will post news on how to do so.

General Discussion / Zsi2 Layout Voting
« on: November 20, 2004, 12:47:45 pm »
Ok guys, now's the time to vote for your winner.  Whoever gets the highest amount of votes at the end will win the 5500, and as well will have his layout be the main one for the ZSI.

Here are links for each user and his layouts.  Some of the users have submitted more than one layout, so if your vote is for one of those, simply comment on which one in a reply to this message.

Here are the links for each user:

Current ELSI Layout:

Since you are viewing that, I will take the time to inform you guys that the official name will be ELSI, or the Embedded Linux Software Index.  Currently, we have imported all the data from the original zsi and we are cleaning up spam.  If you guys are bored and feel like helping, feel free to browse through the site and when you find a piece of spam (there are lots), click on the 'report this project' link.  Also, if you find any bugs, please let me know either via PM here for via the ZSI2 Forums on this site.  As well, please let me know how you feel about the flow of the site.

It should also be noted that I cannot win the contest.  If you choose one of my layouts, than that will be the main one, but the 5500 will not go to me as I am the contest founder and that wouldn't be right

Ok well, vote away!  Contest ends December 18th.

Off Topic forum / Patrick J. Volkerding needs our help.
« on: November 16, 2004, 02:59:28 pm »
Hey guys.  I know many of us here are computer people, but smart people are attracted to eachother and I'm hoping some of you have doctor friends.

To make a long story short, Patrick is having medical problems and he's been having a hard time fighting it.  He's looking for anyone that's had any experience with the disease, or just anyone that might know anything about it.  From what it sounds, there isn't much information on it.  The name of the disease (they think) is Actinomyces.  Here's a copy of the full writeup he did:

Feel free to spread and mirror it.  Patrick has done very much for the linux community and the more help we can get him the better.

Even if you can't help, feel free to email him at volkerdi [at] with good wishes.  I'm sure he could use them right about now.

Thanks for reading guys


Off Topic forum / Ok, I did it :(
« on: November 15, 2004, 04:46:41 pm »
After fighting very hard not to do it, against all odds, I finally gave in.  I purchased Halo 2.

I was doing so good at not saving my money too.. damn me.

OESF Announcements / New SL-C3000 Forum
« on: November 13, 2004, 11:22:46 am »
Hey guys,

Just wanted to let you all know that I've created a new forum for the SL-C3000.  It's located right under the set for the SL-6000.  

Here's a direct link:

While you're reading, I'll take the time to update you guys on some information.

First off, I am almost complete with the new ZSI.  We have full support from Sven at the current ZSI and we are going to be migrating all his data onto the new ZSI.  What this means for you current project admins is that you will have to claim your project.  More details on how to do this will be posted once the site is live.  There has been a very alpha testbed running and it's run pretty smoothly so far.

As well, there is a new magazine being started called 'Free Software Magazine'.  

The website is located at:

Here is a copy of the email I received.  I have spoken to Tony and he says that the offer is open to all of the ZUG community, so I thought you all might enjoy it.

We started a new (both paper and electronic) magazine called "Free Software Magazine", a publication which focuses entirely on free software. We invite you to have a look at our web site: Issue 0 of the magazine is here: The first issue of Free Software Magazine will come out in January. Issues 1 and 2 will come out in electronic format only, and issues 3 and 4 will be printed and sent to our subscribers and key people.

All the articles published in Free Software Magazine are released under a free license (GNU Free Documentation License, Creative Commons, etc.) six weeks after the magazine's publication. The magazine is not highly technical. It contains case studies which explain how a system or a piece of software works, as well as articles on patents, licenses, intellectual property and freedom in general.

We are looking for people willing to write for us. We are looking for both technical AND non-technical articles. We are also interested in technology-orientated short stories! The best thing to do if you would like to write for us is read this page: From there, there is a link to which explains the magazine's structure.

Free Software Magazine is also about helping free software consultants to prosper. This is why we have decided to offer, for the first 4 issues of the magazine, free advertising to small-to-medium companies which contentrate on offering free software-based services.

So, here is the deal:

* you get a one-page ad in the first 4 issues + banner space on our site. These ads will be FREE.

* Next April, when you have a clear idea whether the ads worked or not, you can continue with the campaign or stop it

This way, you can build up confidence and see the results before paying any money.

Here are the specs for the advertising material:

Magazine ads:

Full page ad : 21.0cm X 29.7cm
Half page ad : 20.1cm X 12.9cm
Column ad    :  9.1cm X 25.8cm

The images must be 300 dpi JPG images with MAXIMUM 10% quality loss.

Banner ads:

200x150 GIF images + URL

Please make sure that the ads are "meaningful", and would actually encourage people to contact you.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments!

For the sake of not submitting his address to spam, if you are interested in his offer feel free to message me here on the boards and I'll give you his email address.

Lastly, don't forget about the ZSI Layout contest where you can win an Sl-5500.  It shall be ending soon so if anyone still wants to enter, get your design in.  

The thread is located here:

Have a good weekend

Software / Qtopia Addressbook
« on: November 08, 2004, 02:12:04 pm »
Anyone know how to get the Qtopia addressbook or the standard sharp addressbook to export out to an XML file?

I'm thinking of writing a web-based addressbook for the Zaurus simply because I think Ka/PI takes way too long to load.  Don't get me wrong; awesome application and all.  I just dont think the Zaurus is fast enough for it.  

Anyways, the reason I ask about the XML exporting is so I can get my current list of addresses off of Qtopia.  I can't figure out how to do it, nor can I even find the file that stores all my contact data.  Anyone know?

Zaurus - pdaXrom / Addressbook beaming?
« on: November 08, 2004, 04:09:42 am »
Just out of curiosity, has anyone found a way to beam addressbook contact info from any device to the Zaurus?

I have a 5600 running the standard Sharp Rom that I'd like to get the addressbook off of and onto my c860.  I just recently got back into pdaXrom tonight and I found the file beaming, but nothing on the addressbook.  Nothing on the forums either about it..

Anyone know?

Sharp ROMs / Cacko Rom MPlayer
« on: November 06, 2004, 08:53:48 am »
Ok so I'm stumped on this one.  Using Kino2 I cannot play any streams, but from the command line mplayer plays streams fine.  Ok well, no biggie.  The only problem with that though is that mplayer plays in portrait mode regardless of what mode my Zaurus is in.

Also, as soon as mplayer starts playing, I lose focus and can't close it.  Anyone know any fixes?

I'm using Cacko 1.21b.

Florida / Orlando area anyone?
« on: October 26, 2004, 03:48:14 am »
I'm actually moving down to Orlando in January.  Anyone in that area on here?

Linux Applications / Feed Package File
« on: October 26, 2004, 03:10:59 am »
Ok, so I am working on the "Feed Update" feature of the ZSI2 and I just realized something.  The format for the "Package" file in feeds isn't very good.  In fact, it kinda sucks if you ask me.  I'm a programmer, so I do my best to get things done efficiently.  I really think it is super sloppy the way the Package file is laid out.

For those who don't know, this is the current format:

Code: [Select]
Package: package1
Priority: optional
Section: Misc
Version: 1.02
Architecture: arm
Maintainer: bob (
Filename: package1.ipk
Size: 457689
MD5Sum: 8175c563ab044f18b90d3324599643c8
Description: This is a game that rocks.

Then a new line, and the same code over and over.  Although this might work, I don't think it's a very good idea.  What if we want more than one line for the package description?  What if we want more than one line for anything?  

XML has been tried and it works great.  Many programs have built in support for it and I really think we should adopt it for the new package managers.  I propose the following format:
Code: [Select]


    Bob (
    This is a game that rocks.

It's simple, easy to read, and it will be universally supported.  Everything in between the project tags is tabbed over; I just can't get this bbs to display it right.  It's also super-easy to add a new field if we want.

I apologize if this is already implemented, but if it isn't I ask that we start to try to.  The ZSI will support the old file format and as well I will have it start outputting data in XML format.  I think we should try and focus away from the old format though.

Any other developers want to give me their take on this?  I don't mean to step on anyones toes here, but I'm just trying to find a way to make this efficient.

ELSI General Discussion / Florida
« on: October 16, 2004, 09:39:12 am »
Ok, I'm leaving for Florida in a few hours.  I haven't gotten any info for hosting yet, so unfortunately you're going to have to wait until I get back to test..


ELSI General Discussion / Roms and Libraries List
« on: October 14, 2004, 05:25:54 pm »
:: Update ::

pdaXrom - not done
Cacko Rom - not done
tkcRom - not done
Wetapon Rom - done
Sharp Rom - done
OpenZaurus - done

If anyone can think of any other roms I've missed, let me know.


Anyone know where I can get a list of libraries that are included in each rom?

This list is going to be needed for the download section of the ZSI2 for what we discussed.  

If anyone knows where I can get 'em from or if someone could compile a list, I'd appreciate it

Thanks guys.. as far as I know, I am good to go for test release tomorrow or saturday.  org is getting the account set up as we speak.  I fly out on saturday afternoon, so saturday morning I will post all the information and what I'd like tested.

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