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Open Embedded / Openembedded & Bitbake
« on: June 28, 2005, 08:35:19 pm »
Quote from: cstrand1,Jun 28 2005, 11:00 AM

lardman or Simon, whatever moniker you prefer,

Thank you for your response.  Thinks are becoming clearer now as to how this all works.  The dependency thing makes sense and that is what I assumed it to be.

I will make/suggest anything that I can in the wiki to make it easier for others.

Now, this actually may go better in the thread that relates to "developers school", but anyway.  I think that I was originally looking for the easy way to get to this point.  When I originally got my Zaurus, I downloaded the four (4) rpm's for development.  Instant gratification.  Yesterday, I decided to be patient and follow the "Getting Started" directions, step by step.  Like I stated, I started with something minimal, nano.  What I ended up with was the toolchain, which is what I was looking for.  Now, based on what I have to develop on, I will never bitbake world/opie/gpe.  I will build indivdual packages as I like.  As I write this I am building opie-textedit.  I will take this experience and see if and what can be improved.

Chuck
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Hmmm... What "four rpms" did you download? I'm really interested in building a cross-compilation environment, if I can't get development working on the Z itself (which is my preference).

I've looked at various "getting starting" guides, and they all seem prety involved, when my goal is to compile a single program (fxconv) to run under OE (3.5.3)/Opie.

Has anyone considered making an ISO snapshot of a complete, working toolchain environment, and putting it up for download?

Thanks,

Mark

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General Discussion / Irk Under Oz 3.5.3 + Opie?
« on: June 20, 2005, 03:54:57 pm »
I've got an SL-6000 running OZ 3.5.3 and Opie, and I'm trying to get IRK working so that I can use a Pocketop keyboard.

I've installed various irk packages (one at a time, removing the previous attempt), and each time the installation seems to go fine--the package is in the ipkg list, the library /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods/libirk.so is installed, and OZ restarts.

However, there's no new input method for the IRK (a kangaroo shaped icon), and seemingly no way to turn IRK on/off.

Does the appearance of the IRK input method controller depend on the ircomm/irda/irserial/irtty kernel modules being loaded and on the serial port being set up correctly?

For anyone with working IRK under OZ/Opie:
What kernel modules are loaded and what's your IR & "serial port" config?

Thanks,

Mark

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6000 - Tosa / SL-6000 carry cases
« on: June 20, 2005, 11:48:41 am »
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I just found a case that fits the Z very well. It's a travel case for the Sony PSP, made by Headbanger Audio (www.headbangeraudio.com). It was ~$10 at Circuit City (yuck). It's a bit snug, but has enough room for a couple of CF cards. It's well padded, seems to be well made, and is much, much less bulky than the usual camera case.

They had other (larger) cases for the PSP + accessories that would have worked also.

I can supply photos if you're interested.
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enough room with the sled attached?
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I don't have the sled, so I can't be sure if the larger case would fit. If the sled only adds thickness (not length or width) to the Z, then it may fit--there's about 1/2" of spare depth in the case.

Mark

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6000 - Tosa / Help Needed W. Irk On Sl-6000 W. Oz 3.5.3/opie
« on: June 18, 2005, 10:24:43 am »
I've got an SL-6000 running OZ 3.5.3 and Opie, and I'm trying to get IRK working so that I can use a Pocketop keyboard.

I've installed various irk packages (one at a time, removing the previous attempt), and each time the installation seems to go fine--the package is in the ipkg list, the library /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/inputmethods/libirk.so is installed, and OZ restarts.

However, there's no new input method for the IRK (a kangaroo shaped icon), and seemingly no way to turn IRK on/off.

Does the appearance of the IRK input method controller depend on the ircomm/irda/irserial/irtty kernel modules being loaded and on the serial port being set up correctly?

For anyone with working IRK under OZ/Opie:
What kernel modules are loaded and what's your IR & "serial port" config?

Thanks,

Mark

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Following up on my own post:

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Has anyone compiled RCS for the zaurus? I think it's almost indispensible for managing any system.

http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/trinkle/RCS/

Mark
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Thanks to the handhelds.org public development cluster (http://handhelds.org/projects/skiffcluster.html), I've built rcs, and it works fine on my SL-6000 (OE 3.5.3/Opie).

I've attached a copy of the binaries and man pages [ Invalid Attachment ] .

Mark

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6000 - Tosa / SL-6000 carry cases
« on: June 17, 2005, 12:22:51 am »
I just found a case that fits the Z very well. It's a travel case for the Sony PSP, made by Headbanger Audio (www.headbangeraudio.com). It was ~$10 at Circuit City (yuck). It's a bit snug, but has enough room for a couple of CF cards. It's well padded, seems to be well made, and is much, much less bulky than the usual camera case.

They had other (larger) cases for the PSP + accessories that would have worked also.

I can supply photos if you're interested.

Mark

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Has anyone compiled RCS for the zaurus? I think it's almost indispensible for managing any system.

http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/trinkle/RCS/

Mark

23
Hello,

I'd be very grateful if anyone could compile 2 currency exchange packages and one world timezones clock for OZ (3.5.3). I feel that these are basic applications for a PDA, but I haven't found any for OZ. The two I've found (fxconv and ttbureaudechange) require the Sharp compatability libraries, but they each show errors.

The "fxconv" package has a nice looking interface, and good support for downloading currency table updates. The source code can be found at:
     http://free.pages.at/uberger/zaurus/fxconv_en.html

Regarding recompilation, the author stated:
     I think, the problem is the incompatibility of the softfloat library and the
     floating point calls generated by gcc 2.95. The conversion of the external
     ascii exchange rates to the internal floating point format seems to fail.
     It looks like the compatibility libraries cannot handle this problem.

     The only solution I see is to recompile FXConv for OZ/Opie. Unfortunately I
     don't have a OZ/Opie development system. If you are able to compile, you have
     to create the QubLib as first. Look at the qublib.pro and fxconv.pro files
     and set the environment variables as necessary. My settings are

              QUBDIR=/home/devel
              QUBLIB=QubLibZ.a
              QPELIB=-lqpe
              QDEVEL_DEFS=QPE_ARM_APP

     You have to copy (or link) the QubLib header files to $QUBDIR/include
     and the created qublib.a to $QUBDIR/lib/$QUBLIB.

Another currency converter is ttbureaudechange:

              http://www.vanstrien.net/zaurus/ttbureaudechange/

Also at that site is a world clock:

              http://www.vanstrien.net/zaurus/ttworldclock/index.html

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User Request for Applications / Zaurus = Ipod?
« on: May 24, 2005, 01:57:26 pm »
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I don't know if this is even possible, but I'd really like some way to fool iTunes into thinking my Z is an iPod.
     SNIP!

Somewhat off topic, but I'd be really happy with an mp3 player for the Z that has some of the features of an iPod, even without access to the same content. Important features missing from the Z's mp3 players that I've tried (xmms, mediaplayer, mediaplayer2, and something else...) are:

1. Random play

2. Sort/Select/Play by categories (genre, artist, preferred, least played, most etc.)

3. Saved playlists (ie, last played, high preference/low preference, genre, etc.)
    stored on (or associated with) different media. For example, I store music on CF
    cards, and it would be great if each card had it's own info, rather than just a single
    playlist  organized by song title (ie., directory listing)

4. The ability to lock the keys, so that the arrow keys don't change the volume/song
    accidently.

5. Repeat (by playlist, not by individual song).

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Accessories / 3com megahertz model 3c1 10M LAN CF+ card (SL5600)
« on: May 18, 2005, 04:21:46 am »
Did you ever find a solution? I've got that card too, and it's not recognized on my SL-5000 (OE 3.5.3).

Thanks,

Mark

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I can load the original ROM and the software from the original disk.  I can synch it.  I can flash my Z with the 3.5.2 and as soon as I put it in the cradel, Iget an error saying that the USB device is not recognized.  I know that it is probably an operator malfunction but I cannot see where.  I tried making the corrections listed above and nothing worked.  Any ideas would be most appreciated.
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Did you ever find a solution to this? I'm having the same problem (SL-5000D, 3.5.3 ROM, connecting to Win XP SP2).

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Software / Kde-pim/pi 2.1.0 Available!
« on: April 21, 2005, 02:38:52 am »
Thanks for all your work on this.

A couple of quick notes:

On my machine (SL-5000, OE 2.5.3), the bottom of the screen in the "configure" section is cut off in all the apps--I can see the top few pixels of a check box and some text, but not enough to tell what the option is. The configure screens (and the kopiapplet menu) don't seem to respect the system font choices--or at least making the system font smaller--down to 8pt--doesn't bring the text at the bottom of the config screens high enough to see.

In kapi, the search function doesn't search within notes, as it does on the desktop version.

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Has anyone else noticed this problem yet?  (BUMP)
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Yes. I'm seeing the exact same thing. Environment: SL-5000D, OE 2.5.3, Opie 1.7. I did not see this under 2.5.2.

Mark

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Software / Kde-pim/pi 2.0.16 Release
« on: April 16, 2005, 08:26:10 pm »
I've just started using KDE-pim, and I'm coming from years of use of a Palm Pilot (with Datebook3), so that's coloring some of my perceptions of the PIM.

Here are some suggestions, based on KDE-Pim 2.0.6 (on an SL-5000D, OE 2.5.3, Opie 1.7):

First of all, thanks for your work in on-going development on these tools. They are my main use for the Zaurus, and it's good to have this software.


kapi

Add the abiility to right-click on the "Category" tab in kapi to quickly filter on existing
categories. (Similar to the "auto filter" option in Excel (yuck), where the existing categories are  automatically available for filtering.

On my desktop (Kapi 2.0.23), I can search within all fields of an entry (including notes). On the Zaurus (version 2.0.6), searches seem to be restricted to just name, family name, category, e-mail address.


kopi

Add the option to hide "to-dos" that don't have a due date in the "What's Next" view

Possibly option for floating to-dos (ie., they've got an assigned day, but "float" to successive days if they're not completed)

Add the option to right-click on the "Category" tab to quickly filter on existing
categories.

Add the ability to right-click on the Priority tab to filter (not sort) by priority

Allow assignment of categories to applications (ie., to-do, addressbook,
calendar). Enable the option to determine which categories are visible
in which application (default to the "native" category). For example, I tend to use the "ToDo" list for general reminders that don't have a specific date--such as the names of books that I want to purchase someday, but not today, or my wife's clothing size, in case I'm ever shopping for her. These are not associated with a specific task, but could be grouped into categories like "Books to Get" or "Sizes". Those categories would only apply to the ToDo views (and application), and never need to be shown while entering an appointment or filtering in the calendar view. Similarly, a calender-specific category, like "weekly department meeting" wouldn't need to be visible in when entering (or filtering) the ToDo list.

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Software / Default Shell In Konsole
« on: April 16, 2005, 07:44:10 pm »
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Create a file called ".profile" in your home directory.  In it, put the path to your shell of choice (/usr/local/bin/tcsh for example).  That worked for me.
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that will spawn 2 shells, bash/sh and tcsh as child
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Yes, that will spawn 2 shells. It's also a bad idea (from the standpoint of *nix administration) to have root's .profile blindly call or exec another shell. If the system is corrupted and you need to boot into single-user mode to do disk recovery, you don't want a .profile that launches another shell.

Try the following script. Note that you'll need to change $MYSHELL, and you may want to eliminate the section where root's $HOME directory is reassigned. This is useful in a Solaris environment where root's home directory is /.


#################################################
/bin/echo "bash? [Y|n]\c"
read ans
if [ "X$ans" = "X" -o  -z $ans -o  "X$ans" = "Xy" -o "X$ans" = "XY" ] ; then
        MYSHELL=/usr/bin/bash
        if [ "$SHELL" != "$MYSHELL" ] ; then
                MYSHELLCMD="-c"         # option to run a single command
                                        #       bash            -c
                                        #       [t]csh          -e

                MYSHELLLOGIN="--login"  # otion to specify a login shell
                                        #       bash            --login
                                        #       [t]csh          -l

                /bin/ls /tmp> /dev/null 2> /dev/null
                # OK, the system isn't hosed... continue
                if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
                        if [ -x $MYSHELL  ] ; then
                                $MYSHELL $MYSHELLCMD "exit 0"
                                if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
                                        # The shell was able to execute something
                                        if [ -d /export/home/root ] ; then
                                                HOME=/export/home/root ; export HOME
                                        fi

                                        if [ -d /home/root ] ; then
                                                HOME=/home/root ; export HOME
                                        fi

                                        export MYSHELL
                                        SHELL=$MYSHELL ;  export SHELL
                                        cd
                        echo "exec()ing $MYSHELL $MYSHELLLOGIN"
                            exec $MYSHELL $MYSHELLLOGIN
                                else
                                        # If we get to here, then we couldn't start up
                                        # the chosen shell...but we've still got /sbin/sh
                                        # as our shell...

                                        echo "Could not run $MYSHELL"
                                fi
                        fi
                fi
        fi
fi
#################################################

Mark

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