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Gemini PDA - Android / Having my corporate agenda in the Gemini

« on: July 25, 2018, 04:41:34 pm »

Corporate allows BYOD, but if I try to insert the corporate Exchange e-mail address into the Gemini's mail client, corporate wants to cripple the Gemini. If I do not allow that I don't get the e-mail. And... I don't think that this would allow access to the agenda.

Please define cripple?

Is there a reason why you're adding the corporate email to Gemini mail instead of a distinct corporate email application?

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Gemini PDA - Android / USB-Sticks <solved>

« on: June 15, 2018, 03:03:02 pm »

How does a USB-stick need to be formatted then? As said, the USB-stick I tested works fine with other Android device, version 4.2, though.

If it works for any Android it should work on the Gemini. Have you installed the latest firmware? Is it still running the stock Android as supplied, if not that might be related.

Have you checked the notifications (swipe down from top) after inserting the stick?

Not quite correct...

The Android installation on the Gemini includes drivers for FAT32 but does not include drivers for ExFAT.  Nearly every other Android device from the last 5+ years includes drivers for ExFAT.

The result is that if you put a card larger than 32GB (native ExFAT) in the Gemini it demands to reformat it to FAT32.

I haven't tried this again since yesterday's update, but I doubt it has changed.  Microsoft charges device manufacturers a significant chunk of change to include ExFAT drivers.

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Gemini PDA - Android / Android update - Beware!

« on: June 11, 2018, 01:48:50 pm »

Here there is info and how to solve with X25 and X27 devices.
Hope this helps.

Salvo

That is good to have here - the method to fix a device if it gets messed up.

However, what I'm more wondering is:  Is the updating system itself fixed and ready for us who -have not upgraded- to all be able to update our firmware via the OTA updater?

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Gemini PDA - Android / Android update - Beware!

« on: June 08, 2018, 01:34:45 am »

Seriously...  does anyone know if it is safe to update yet?

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Gemini PDA - Android / Has anyone managed to get a 4G or 3G connection to Virgin in the UK?

« on: June 06, 2018, 12:37:04 pm »

Switch it to CARD 1 under each entry of: Mobile data, Calls, and SMS messages.

Mine was already set like that…  Still says ‘3G’.   

The bands that the Gemini covers is not a direct match to the bands that AT&T covers.  You have put an EU spec phone on a US carrier.  Expect less 4G coverage than you would get with a carrier branded (all bands covered) phone.

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Gemini PDA - Android / Android update - Beware!

« on: June 06, 2018, 12:30:39 pm »

No update to this issue yet...?

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Gemini PDA - General Discussion / Android/Linux etc.

« on: June 05, 2018, 02:06:27 pm »

Ok i dont have my machine yet, but i'm reading the posts here and i get confused coss its not clear to me when the post is about Linux or Android (sometimes i do). I dont know anything about Linux and i'm not planning to use it, so i'm only interested in Android. So is there a department on this forum that specificly talks about Android and nothing else?

For me that would be most usefull, and perhaps for others to.

Thanks....

https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showforum=195

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Gemini PDA - Android / Google Fi

« on: June 01, 2018, 12:53:19 am »

I suppose at this point I should offer the obligatory disclaimer. I work for Google, not for Project Fi, and this is known but unsupported, blah blah blah.  If it’s any comfort, I did this BEFORE I took the job from them about a year and a half ago, with an iPhone.

Something that struck me..  If Google were to release their special sauce or a version of Android Fi for Gemini, people who wanted to would be able to re rom.  Gemini is one of the very few phones where something like that could be possible.

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Gemini PDA - Android / Google Fi

« on: May 30, 2018, 01:16:11 pm »

So, Google just announced two new phones to be available for use on Google Fi.  Both are glass slabs just like the other glass slabs that they offered before.

From my understanding, the Gemini has the requisite antenna support.

What it would need, in my theory, is the carrier & WiFi hopping magic software that Google Fi uses on their phones.

Frankly, all carriers could do with a bit more variety in their offerings.  Google's offerings in particular has been distinctly saddening.

Planet Computers would be unlikely to get a meeting with Google Fi's product guy, but I can dream, right?

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Gemini PDA - Android / FM radio tuner app?

« on: May 25, 2018, 02:49:59 pm »

Wow! That is actually functional and works.  I had never even thought to look for a pre-installed application for this.

File that one under, "I need to RTFM".

OK, so this, "FM Radio" app that was included on our Gemini units.  It has no 'About'.  Who made it?  Who maintains it?  Why isn't it present in the Google Play store?  Is it open source so we can modify it?

Awesome - thank you!

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Gemini PDA - Hardware / Fast charging support

« on: May 25, 2018, 12:34:55 pm »

Has anyone found an automotive fast charger that will work?

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Gemini PDA - Linux / Debian on Gemini - Usage

« on: May 25, 2018, 12:25:21 pm »

Would greatly appreciate it if anyone could please assist with the issue of my not being able to connect to the guest WiFi network at my workplace location.

Please see posts 30 - 31 on page 2 of this thread.

It is very frustrating to not be able to have internet connection on my Gemini on Monday - Friday, 8 - 10 hours a day!

If I can't figure this out soon, I might have to sell Gemini.

So, any help will be truly appreciated greatly!

Mark

At some point in the process of evaluating a problem it can be useful to consider what works.

Are you dual booting Debian and Android?  If so, try connecting with Android.  If that works, the hardware is good and it's a Debian setting issue.  If Android doesn't work, then there may be some weird hardware incompatibility between your Gemini and the particular access point or model that you are trying to connect to.

I have seen it before where a device works on every wireless access point but one - and that one access point connected to everything else fine.

I initially had issues connecting my Gemini to my work network.  I tried various settings, etc - no good.  Then on a whim I tried to connect in another area of the building using the default settings - all good.  Once connected and authenticated on the far access point, it now works on the near access point.  Try forgetting the network, go to near a different access point and try again?

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Gemini PDA - Android / FM radio tuner app?

« on: May 25, 2018, 12:18:24 pm »

Has anyone found an Andriod app that uses the FM radio tuner?  Everything I am finding is strictly streaming, which misses the point.

I use one called (and I am not joking) FM Radio. It works well - and like all fm radio apps, needs the headphones. I use yalp, so I cant post a link to it.

I found one in the Play store called, "FM Radio" by SMMG.  It opens up to a full screen ad then - nothing - junk app.  Maybe you have one by a different author?

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Gemini PDA - Android / FM radio tuner app?

« on: May 25, 2018, 01:45:26 am »

Has anyone found an Andriod app that uses the FM radio tuner?  Everything I am finding is strictly streaming, which misses the point.

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Gemini PDA - Android / microSDXC cards and forced ExFAT to FAT32

« on: May 24, 2018, 01:48:01 pm »

I wonder why they left ExFAT out of the Gemini firmware.  Does Microsoft charge a per device license for that?

I doubt it -- support for it came in my Debian Stretch desktop distribution.

Don't doubt greed.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technol...at-file-system/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT

The official Microsoft sanctioned Android Linux drivers...
https://www.networkworld.com/article/223091...nt-threats.html

Or alternate Linux driver...
https://readwrite.com/2013/01/22/open-sourc...-exfat-patents/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT

A possible solution to the ExFAT on USB doesn't work on Gemini issue:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...ro&hl=en_US

Apparently the Pixel XL had a similar issue, even if only limited to the USB C use:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/h...-exfat-t3485070

From what I can tell, if the Gemini were a camera or similar consumer device using ExFAT, the licensing fee would be something in the range of $300,000 per device model.  Apparently with phones it gets based on total number produced - likely to Microsoft's favor.  So, the $300,000 might be a baseline.

Assuming they make 6000 Gemini units, $300,000 comes to roughly $75 per device to license ExFAT.  Even if it is only a fraction of that, I think I understand why the Gemini doesn't use SDXC cards in standard ExFAT mode.  So, the device likely cannot ship with ExFAT.

As to the Linux distribution - that doesn't ship on the device and becomes a more grey area.  Hypothetically anyone embedding the Linux ExFAT driver into a shipping product could owe license costs to both Microsoft and the company that made the Linux version.

Google used to have a posted version of the Linux driver:
https://code.google.com/p/exfat/

But, if you follow that, it now goes to github.
https://github.com/relan/exfat

So, I understand why Planet Computers would have left ExFAT out of the device.  License hell.