Pdaxrom Over Familiar

[lardman]

@locust: pdaxrom now (> 1.10RC5) uses soft-vfp and is compiled with xscale optimization, so this might be a problem.

Is this soft-vfp different from the soft-float which is used by OZ/familiar? I didn't think so.

XScale optimisation is also not a problem if your machine has an XScale processor - the reason the OZ/familiar feeds are not xscale optimised is that it shows little speed improvement in general, and would require (at least - looking at PXA270 additional optimisations too) two seperate feeds (which at c.600MB each would be a lot of extra space).

With OZ/familiar you have a later version of libc so that isn't an issue - the major pain is the format of the pdaXrom control files (which afair the OZ ipkg doesn't like very much) - both the arch setting and the addition of empty lines in the file.


Si

[pgas]

s this soft-vfp different from the soft-float which is used by OZ/familiar? I didn't think so.

I don't think so either

XScale optimisation is also not a problem if your machine has an XScale processor

This was my main point (i don't know  the specs of the ipaq).

And also the libs compatibility, because firefox0.8 was compiled before soft-float and firefox1.0 after...hence my hint about a possible issue. But I don't know for sure. (also a small description of what is happening might help).

[Laze]

Why all the fuss - basically if you like OZ use it and if you like pdaXrom use that.

Thats the beauty of linux based things and also the problem - so many projects and choices.

We work on the pdaXrom and we like it and basically hope some people like it too...

[adf]

bad idea.
nevermind.
how do i delete posts?

[Locutus73]

Thats the beauty of linux based things and also the problem - so many projects and choices.
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This is the point: I think that it would be fine to have the choice to install pdaXrom on iPAQs.

Ciao
Alessandro

[koen]

@locust: pdaxrom now (> 1.10RC5) uses soft-vfp and is compiled with xscale optimization, so this might be a problem.

Is this soft-vfp different from the soft-float which is used by OZ/familiar? I didn't think so.

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Familiar doesn't use softfloat to stay compatible with debian-arm.
GPE is a GTK+/X11 based environment, so there will be no QT apps in that image, but one could easily install qt/x11 for qt based apps.
'ipkg install gcc libc6-dev' will get you a native environment in virtually any distro.

As a side note: ROM means "Read Only Memory", please don't call (writeable!) images ROMs, it shows a deep misunderstanding of elementary things like "reading" and "writing" to memory.

[ScottYelich]

give it up, koen...

we have sharp to thank for this astardization of terminology.
It's almost as bad as ms's embrace, extend+break and legislate to
force usage/compliance.

It may make the hair on the back of our neck stand up, but this is how
the technology world operates... via marketing and sales, not via what
is accurate or best.

back to on topic -- I use pdaXrom on 760.  I have a 700 which I test
pdaXrom and OZ (rare).... and a 5600.  On the 5600, I use OZ.  I primarily
use the 760 and I primarily want mp3 + xmame/dev.  I want to be able
to code and compile c++/qt.  Yes, this *might* be possible with other roms
(sorry) and a bit of effort (ie: pocket workstation, etc), but with pdaXrom,
it just comes native.  I want a workstation in my pocket, default.  What I
do on my desktop, I can do on the zaurus -- albeit probably a wee bit slower.

xfce4 on desktop -- xfce4 in vnc -- xfce4 on pda.  same.   emacs? gcc? less?
tcsh/csh?  same.  

I see that OZ/OE has the power of numbers and I see that pdaXrom has the
power of dedicated focus.    I am glad for the choice.  I was investigating PDAs
a while back and it was iPAQ + familiar or zaurus (700) + OZ ... and I decided
to go with OZ.  pdaXrom wasn't even around at that time.

Scott