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Why Do You Still Use Oz 3.5.2 On Your 5500?
« on: May 04, 2005, 06:20:07 pm »
Why do you still use OZ 3.5.2 on your SL-5500?

Which particular problems with 3.5.3 are stopping you from upgrading.  Is it the apm problems, the SD card problems, links disappearing problems, the sharp-compat/oz-compat libs problems?

I upgraded to 3.5.3 but I think it may have been a mistake.

I asked this question before, but I didn't get a clear answer:  Which version of OZ should I stick with for my SL-5500?

I get the impression that the SL-5500 is getting left behind as OZ progresses.  Soon there will be no SD card support whatsoever.  Should I just freeze the OZ version at 3.5.2 for this machine, or should I try to make 3.5.3 work?  At some point I am going to have to stop upgrading OZ, because I want to use an SD.  3.5.2 was O.K, it took a lot of patching to get it to do what I wanted, but I eventually got the ROM to where I was satisfied with it.  AdvancedFM and PackageManager still left things to be desired, but I could live with it.  I think the cons of those two packages might not outweigh the cons of having no jeode apps/buggy oz-compat apps, flaky SD support, and automatic suspend when you hold the right arrow.

I am looking for personal opinions here from experienced users about whether to keep up with OZ upgrades or at what point to freeze the version.

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Why Do You Still Use Oz 3.5.2 On Your 5500?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2005, 06:24:25 pm »
I went back to 3.5.2 because of the APM problems preventing my 5500 from sleeping and resuming.

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Why Do You Still Use Oz 3.5.2 On Your 5500?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2005, 08:07:20 pm »
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I went back to 3.5.2 because of the APM problems preventing my 5500 from sleeping and resuming.
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I have that problem too, but it's not a show stopper for me yet. Still trying to figure it out.
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Why Do You Still Use Oz 3.5.2 On Your 5500?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2005, 11:48:53 pm »
I'm not sure what you mean about the lack of SD support on the 5500.

OZ 3.5.3 has the most sane SD support yet. The card actually obeys fstab, and supports multiple partitions out of the box.

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Why Do You Still Use Oz 3.5.2 On Your 5500?
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2005, 03:10:40 am »
At first appearance it has better SD support out of the box as you say, but comparing the way SD works to my patched 3.5.2 version (I fixed SdControl to handle multiple partitions, and swap), it has a lot more problems.  These are the problems I've had:  https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12339

Remember, I am speaking of 5500.

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Why Do You Still Use Oz 3.5.2 On Your 5500?
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2005, 07:19:33 am »
I've just not got round to upgrading my collie yet as I don't use it all that much.


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Why Do You Still Use Oz 3.5.2 On Your 5500?
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2005, 07:57:00 am »
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I've just not got round to upgrading my collie yet as I don't use it all that much.


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Thanks Si,

as one of the leading lights in oe I was beginning to wonder if it was something more sinister.

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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2005, 10:21:42 am »
Yeah, I was wondering too about lardman.  Its good to know that there isn't some mysterious reason why the gurus aren't using it yet.

 

Oh, but when I talk of SD support what I am really worried about is the sharp_mmcsd_m kernel module and how it's proprietary code.  I heard that the next major kernel upgrade won't be able to provide SD support for the 5500.  That's why I'm trying to find the best OZ version before we make that jump.  I don't know how many more versions will come out before that happens.
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Why Do You Still Use Oz 3.5.2 On Your 5500?
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2005, 11:01:37 am »
Even though I'm running 2.6.11 on my C750, I could, should I wish, run a 2.4.18 kernel (just depends what you set in your local.conf before you start the build) - therefore I wouldn't worry about not being able to have working SD (on a 2.4.18 kernel) for future versions - it will still be available as will the 2.6.x kernel (though without SD support unless someone hacks/obtains info about the locomo chip).

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Serial GPS, WCF-12, Socket Ethernet & BT, Ratoc USB
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