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« on: July 04, 2005, 06:44:22 am »
http://www.dklevine.com/general/software/tc1000/jarnal.htm


what about trying this software performance on zaurus? let's try it with jam

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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2005, 02:00:13 pm »
http://www.adebenham.com/gournal/

a bit the same ?
I used to run this on pocketworkstation.

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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2005, 04:21:36 pm »
seems nice...
actually I was thought the tool I asked of was an handwriting recognition system; actually, both it and yours are only notepads.
In this case, your alternative is actually better, but neither it and mine can help me.


I'd like to write down my electronic documents as tablet-pc users use to. Any known tool?

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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2005, 09:28:47 pm »
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seems nice...
actually I was thought the tool I asked of was an handwriting recognition system; actually, both it and yours are only notepads.
In this case, your alternative is actually better, but neither it and mine can help me.


I'd like to write down my electronic documents as tablet-pc users use to. Any known tool?
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The handwriting recognition (HWR) system that was part of the Newton MessagePad (long ago!) was outstanding. Apple originally licensed this HWR from Paragon. Following their trail, this is the URL that we should all hit to begin our lobby to port to the Z.

[a href=\"http://linux-software.penreader.com/index.html]http://linux-software.penreader.com/index.html[/url]

For those of you who have owned and used Newtons, you'll understand why this is important, and I believe that it would meet your needs quite nicely, if only we can convince them to port to software to the Z.
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2005, 02:18:34 pm »
ok.... cross your fingers and wait...
I'll let you know as soon as I'll have an answer by them.

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2005, 04:20:36 pm »
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ok.... cross your fingers and wait...
I'll let you know as soon as I'll have an answer by them.

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Thanks, I'm trying to get them to consider it too. Will let you know what I find.
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2005, 01:50:06 am »
For handwriting recognition there is:

http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/

which is currently used by OZ/Gpe.

for free note, in the gpe project there:

http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GpeSketchBook
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2005, 03:43:35 am »
....since you have a working development setup (livecd and pc)....
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....what about compiling and packaging rosetta, too?

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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2005, 11:37:34 am »
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For handwriting recognition there is:

http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/

which is currently used by OZ/Gpe.

for free note, in the gpe project there:

http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GpeSketchBook
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Thanks for the links.

So we are comparing Apples to Apples (excuse the pun), the handwriting recognition system that was in the Newton MessagePad had the following features:

1) No special characters were needed. Normal handwriting was used.
2) Recognized different handwriting types: printed, cursive, or mixed word recognition
3) User could write anywhere on the screen, in any application.
4) Recognized "gestures" for common actions (moving text, inserting text, deleting, etc)
5) Deferred recognition mode (could be set to recognize later, if desired, so the recognition process would not interfere with rapid note-taking)
6) Adaptive recognition (learned the style of the writer)
7) Used both a built-in word dictionary and a user customizable dictionary (for hard-to-recognize words).

Amazing to think that all of this was available in 1993, and here we are in 2005 struggling to find it (or re-implement it) again  Having owned 3 different Newton models, I will say that the Z has progressed way beyond it from a hardware perspective, but is nowhere near it on the HWR front.
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2005, 11:57:01 am »
@scoutme
rosetta : https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=13696

@rrnwexec
well, if apple  had given the code of its handrecognition application, we might be using it now.

rosetta seems to cover a number of your points (even dictionary, though I don't know how well it works)
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2005, 03:32:42 pm »
nice one...

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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2005, 07:00:04 am »
Following up on using jarnal with jamvm, I tried it but I get

java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Could not find library 'gtkpeer'

the library libgtkpeer.so is in classpath, which is referenced in LD_LIBRARY_PATH and java.library.path, so it should be able to find it... Is there any reason why jamvm+classpath can't run AWT stuff in Rc10?

Thanks,
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2005, 04:51:37 pm »
can anyone compile gpesketchbook (or similar)?
I need to use my zaurus as sketchbook


....pgas..?