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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2007, 08:52:50 pm »
The kernel version is 2.4.21. I attach a picture of /proc/version I can view it on the mylo's browser but can't save it, hence the photo (taken with the Zaurus of course).
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« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2007, 01:56:38 am »
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The idea with the memory card is a good one, thanks. However, I don't have a Sony memory stick, which is the only option for the mylo. I'll see if I can get hold of one.
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I've got an old 8MB memory stick I can send you for your trouble, just PM me if wanted with your address and I'll get it posted off.
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« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2007, 02:02:10 am »
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The kernel version is 2.4.21. I attach a picture of /proc/version I can view it on the mylo's browser but can't save it, hence the photo (taken with the Zaurus of course).
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hmm, interesting.. of particular note is that it was built by someone at Sony, rather than by some outside company (I had been wondering whether Sony developed the Mylo s/w internally or subcontracted it out). I've googled (web and groups) for variations on the name "ushin sony japan" and not found anything useful... nor can I find much for ga.sony.jp... so he/she must be an internal developer.
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« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2007, 02:07:19 am »
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ah, very interesting, one of the team who ported skype to the mylo has a blog:
http://www.oberle.org/blog/2006/08/10/skyp...e-new-sony-mylo

I added a msg to the blog to ask if he could give any technical info about skype on mylo.
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I checked, he responded, basically saying it's a closed device with no sdk or anything for adding apps.
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2007, 02:16:06 am »
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have you tried looking for sources and toolkits on thier site or on the CD? perhaps request them.
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p.s. I don't have a mylo, and I don't have the CD!
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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2007, 09:09:22 pm »
Got a memory stick (needed to be a duo, one of the new smaller ones). Formatted it ext3 on my desktop. Put some symlinks into it. Unfortunately the Mylo does not see the symlinks on its file manager or doesn't show them to me. It sees the memory stick allright and I can even transfer files to it. If I have the Mylo connected as a mass storage device to the computer, the computer sees the symlinks but they don't lead anywhere since only a certain part of internal storage is visible. Extrapolationg from something I read online and my experience it seems that the Mylo has two flash chips, one storing the operating system and programs (128MB?) and another (1GB) which is available for user storage. When  connected as a mass storage device or through the file manager, all I see is the 1GB part.

Any new ideas?

Felipe

p.s. Anybody else besides speculatrix is reading this thread?  There is an ARM compiled Skype binary inside this thing!
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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2007, 09:23:18 pm »
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Got a memory stick (needed to be a duo, one of the new smaller ones). Formatted it ext3 on my desktop. Put some symlinks into it. Unfortunately the Mylo does not see the symlinks on its file manager or doesn't show them to me. It sees the memory stick allright and I can even transfer files to it. If I have the Mylo connected as a mass storage device to the computer, the computer sees the symlinks but they don't lead anywhere since only a certain part of internal storage is visible. Extrapolationg from something I read online and my experience it seems that the Mylo has two flash chips, one storing the operating system and programs (128MB?) and another (1GB) which is available for user storage. When  connected as a mass storage device or through the file manager, all I see is the 1GB part.

Any new ideas?

Felipe

p.s. Anybody else besides speculatrix is reading this thread?  There is an ARM compiled Skype binary inside this thing!
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this would be consistent with how sony build their devices. there is always a small internal storage section which stores the OS or other system stuff which is not accessible when mounted as a USB storage device but partially accessible when accessing via other means, ie bluetooth... there is also a bug with how it reads the FAT descriptor since FAT32 uses both whereas FAT16 has two duplicates, one primary and one backup.

would they have actually placed a 128MB memory stick duo inside the Mylo in which case you could pull it out and even replace it with a bigger one , but chancges are they soldered some other chip inside it...
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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2007, 11:34:57 am »
hmm, with the older OS image, there was an FTP port open. Were people able to access the whole file system with that? I was wondering if it would be possible to get a complete file system copy?
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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2007, 11:40:06 am »
My understanding from reading other forums is that with the ftp they could get and put any files and somebody even changed init.d or some such to get a telnetd going on startup allowing them to log in remotely! I've never seen a Mylo with the old OS so I don't really know. I have not found an image of the old file system.
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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2007, 11:58:04 am »
is it just me, but I am finding it very difficult to navigate myloforums, I registered but I can't actually see how to view any of the forums themselves, apart from the listing of recent posts on the front page.
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p.s. I was using firefox, I've even tried IE!
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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2007, 01:25:25 pm »
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is it just me, but I am finding it very difficult to navigate myloforums, I registered but I can't actually see how to view any of the forums themselves, apart from the listing of recent posts on the front page.
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p.s. I was using firefox, I've even tried IE!
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Yes, it is horrible. Here is a workaround. From the recent posts page, click on the name of subforum in which some post has appeared (say, general discussion), when you get to that subforum page, near the bottom right corner there is a pulldown menu called "forum jump" which you can use to reach the other subforums. Mylo Hacks is the interesting one.
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« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2007, 03:07:43 pm »
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Yes, it is horrible. Here is a workaround. From the recent posts page, click on the name of subforum in which some post has appeared (say, general discussion), when you get to that subforum page, near the bottom right corner there is a pulldown menu called "forum jump" which you can use to reach the other subforums. Mylo Hacks is the interesting one.
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ah, so I wasn't going mad!

it looks as if they missed off the forum jump menu off the home page. very strange... I've found the clean simple lines of this oesf forum to be much superior to many others.
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« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2007, 03:30:46 pm »
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My understanding from reading other forums is that with the ftp they could get and put any files and somebody even changed init.d or some such to get a telnetd going on startup allowing them to log in remotely! I've never seen a Mylo with the old OS so I don't really know. I have not found an image of the old file system.
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Looks like the forum moderator has done it - see this thread:
[a href=\"http://www.myloforums.net/showthread.php?t=717]http://www.myloforums.net/showthread.php?t=717[/url]

there's a broken link, which should go to here, which is a list of the entire file system:
http://www.myloshare.net/serve/myloforums_..._filesystem.htm

I note there's no bluetooth or bluez modules (might be in kernel), but there's a a few big binaries around and a lot of files with "skype" in the path, plus lots of opera files. I've asked if someone can provide a complete dump of the file system

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looks like I've been partially successful with getting a file mylo files. stay tuned
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« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2007, 08:45:55 pm »
To add to my earlier post on speculatrix's idea of using an ext3 formatted memory card, I just noticed something strange. When the card is on the mylo, I guess it's ignoring the linux format and I can save files to the card. These files don't show up when I mount the card on my desktop. Conversely, if I create files on the card from the desktop, they don't show up when viewing from the mylo. I just tried viewing the card on a Mac and is the same as on Linux. I suppose I could try it on Windows too...
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