ar, unzip, ldd for X11 ROM?

[zaphod]

I was somwhat surprised not finding these very useful command line utils preinstalled on the pdaXrom.

Are they available in one of the distribution ipks? If not, I can probably grab them from Debian-arm, but that\'s a pain so I just thought I\'d ask first.

[lardman]

You can probably find them on killefiz in one of the packages of command line apps.

I agree that they ought to be installed though.


Si

[ScottYelich]

we should make a list of these commands... so that when new pdaxroms come out, we can make sure
we have ipks ready... yes, most of the time old ones will work, but I think we should make a master list
somewhere.

Scott

[Zazz]

Of course these commands are needed but nothing should come preinstalled (except kernel, bash and ipkg), everything should be optional (especially busybox, window managers, and maybe even the X server itself) so that one can get rid of them safely if one does not want them.

ldd is a shell script calling ld-linux.so which you could also call directly. unzip compiles right out of the box, why not do it yourself? For ar you need to decide how to deal with libbfd: if you want only ar you can link libbfd statically but if you want the complete binutils package you would prefer shared libs.

If you are desperate to get any of these files I can upload the ones I use.

[zaphod]

zazz: Nothing compiles \"out of the box\" for me because I only have a PPC linux laptop and there is only a x86 SDK, AFAIK.  

I think ar is kind of necessary, considering it is required to extract files from .deb archives.  (\"Package Manager\" recognises debs, but doesn\'t seem to be able to do much with them.)

I hadn\'t noticed that ldd was just a shell script, thanks.

Anyway, you can snag just about any binutil/lib you want from Pockworkstation. Just d/l the zdebian.tar.gz and untar it on a linux box.  Still a pain, but way less trouble than tearing apart .deb files.

Will the pdaXrom have a compiler in the future? Way back in the january X11ROM I remember building some small programs on the Z, but that feature seems to have disappeared.  It was really easy to install, too.  I know there isn\'t enough RAM/storage to build anything big, but it would be handy to have the option to compile little things like unzip on the z.

[pgas]

]Will the pdaXrom have a compiler in the future?

see this:
* http://www.zaurususergroup.com/index.php?n...iewtopic&t=3490

I also remember a thread  where it was said that the old native sdk could still be used.