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Posted by: MikeC Jun 26 2018, 08:51 AM

Greetings,

I just went through the process of booting Sailfish OS for the first time -- Selected locale, language, set up wifi, created jolla account, accepted terms. All seemed to go swimmingly. However, now I'm left with a rotating teal ring, and things do not seem to be progressing. Any ideas as to what is currently happening?

Thank you,
Mike

Posted by: Wille Jun 26 2018, 10:50 AM

QUOTE(MikeC @ Jun 26 2018, 07:51 PM) *
Greetings,

I just went through the process of booting Sailfish OS for the first time -- Selected locale, language, set up wifi, created jolla account, accepted terms. All seemed to go swimmingly. However, now I'm left with a rotating teal ring, and things do not seem to be progressing. Any ideas as to what is currently happening?

Thank you,
Mike

I'm in the same situation. I think it is somehow related to device locking - it should show keypad for pin code but it don't.
I didn't set code on startup but set it later, and after automatic lockout period it won't wake up but showing this circle.
Reboot didn't help as it is waiting device to be unlocked.

Second hint is notification if you connect charger, It says something like unlock your device first.

But no idea how to fix this. Workaround would be not to set device lock code at all.

br - Wille

Posted by: Dietmar Schwertberger Jun 26 2018, 12:16 PM

Do you see the ring when you re-boot or open the device? Try to swipe from the left or right edge the screen. I have the same problem.

Posted by: Plnt Jun 26 2018, 12:19 PM

QUOTE(MikeC @ Jun 26 2018, 05:51 PM) *
Greetings,

I just went through the process of booting Sailfish OS for the first time -- Selected locale, language, set up wifi, created jolla account, accepted terms. All seemed to go swimmingly. However, now I'm left with a rotating teal ring, and things do not seem to be progressing. Any ideas as to what is currently happening?

Thank you,
Mike


I had similar problem. The setup wizard always ended in the rotating circle. Swipes from different sides of the screen didn't help. What helped for me was to insert SIM card into the device, connect it to WiFi and login to my Jolla account in the wizard.

Posted by: MikeC Jun 26 2018, 04:02 PM

QUOTE(Dietmar Schwertberger @ Jun 26 2018, 01:16 PM) *
Do you see the ring when you re-boot or open the device? Try to swipe from the left or right edge the screen. I have the same problem.


If I swiped from the right, I got a lock screen button. Swiping from the left enabled the camera. The center always showed the rotating ring. Here's what I did that worked for me:

1) The Sailfish os is hidden in the debian linux.img, under /.stowaways You can boot debian and poke around in there to take a look a things.

2) On my linux machine (which I used to Flash the boot/system images), I mounted up the linux.img file in the firmware directory, and created a tar archive of sailfish os:

mount -t ext4 -o ro linux.img /mnt
cd /mnt/.stowaways
tar cjf /where/you/have/space/sailfishos.tar sailfishos
3) Then I rebooted the gemini into debian, went to /.stowaways, and nuked sailfishos. I then sftp'ed the sailfishos.tar from step 2, and extracted it. This resets sailfishos to it's initial state

4) Then I rebooted the gemini, this time into sailfish os, and this time didn't set a PIN. I went through the other initialization steps, logged into my jolla acount, and got the rotating ring again. However, when I rebooted back into sailfish os, it's working fine now.

I hope this helps.


I don't have a SIM installed yet because I'm waiting for Verizon Wireless to decide whether or not they're going to allow the gemini on their network. Until they do, I can't make calls on the gemini so I've gone back to my original phone.

Posted by: andrewl Jun 26 2018, 10:41 PM

My question is, what is the smallest Android partition I can get away with so I can give maximum partition space to Sailfish?

Posted by: vader Jun 30 2018, 03:41 AM

QUOTE(andrewl @ Jun 27 2018, 04:41 PM) *
My question is, what is the smallest Android partition I can get away with so I can give maximum partition space to Sailfish?

It probably isn't the smallest possible, but I went 16G for android. You should be able to install a few things if needs be with 16G. I think the system takes around 4, so you couldn't go smaller than that.

Posted by: andrewl Jun 30 2018, 12:06 PM

QUOTE(vader @ Jun 30 2018, 03:41 AM) *
QUOTE(andrewl @ Jun 27 2018, 04:41 PM) *
My question is, what is the smallest Android partition I can get away with so I can give maximum partition space to Sailfish?

It probably isn't the smallest possible, but I went 16G for android. You should be able to install a few things if needs be with 16G. I think the system takes around 4, so you couldn't go smaller than that.


thank you

Posted by: gemini_user_j Aug 9 2018, 06:43 AM

QUOTE(MikeC @ Jun 26 2018, 04:02 PM) *
QUOTE(Dietmar Schwertberger @ Jun 26 2018, 01:16 PM) *
Do you see the ring when you re-boot or open the device? Try to swipe from the left or right edge the screen. I have the same problem.


If I swiped from the right, I got a lock screen button. Swiping from the left enabled the camera. The center always showed the rotating ring. Here's what I did that worked for me:

1) The Sailfish os is hidden in the debian linux.img, under /.stowaways You can boot debian and poke around in there to take a look a things.

2) On my linux machine (which I used to Flash the boot/system images), I mounted up the linux.img file in the firmware directory, and created a tar archive of sailfish os:

mount -t ext4 -o ro linux.img /mnt
cd /mnt/.stowaways
tar cjf /where/you/have/space/sailfishos.tar sailfishos
3) Then I rebooted the gemini into debian, went to /.stowaways, and nuked sailfishos. I then sftp'ed the sailfishos.tar from step 2, and extracted it. This resets sailfishos to it's initial state

4) Then I rebooted the gemini, this time into sailfish os, and this time didn't set a PIN. I went through the other initialization steps, logged into my jolla acount, and got the rotating ring again. However, when I rebooted back into sailfish os, it's working fine now.

I hope this helps.


I don't have a SIM installed yet because I'm waiting for Verizon Wireless to decide whether or not they're going to allow the gemini on their network. Until they do, I can't make calls on the gemini so I've gone back to my original phone.


Hi
I also had the problem with the spinning loading screen after going through tutorial, I manage to solve it by trial and error:

I found a reported case of SFOS X doing the same as the community edition: https://together.jolla.com/question/169017/sailfish-x-stuck-on-spinner-after-tutorial/

But I couldn't really use that for anything, so I just redownloaded the linux image and the sailfish boot and tried different settings when activating the OS, each time it failed I just downloaded a fresh linuximage and sailfish boot to the device before trying again.

the time it worked, I had removed both sim card and memory card from my X27 device,
I did not select a pin code
I kept finish time zone
I connected to local wifi
I skipped the jolla account setup

instead of going through the tutorial I skipped it (press each corner of the screen in a clockwise motion - start with whatever sailfish thinks is top left)

for a few minutes I was stuck with the loader like before, but when I dragged sideways I got the main screen.

still got error messages when connecting to a new jolla account, but eventually it got through and everything works now.

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