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OESF Portables Forum _ Gemini PDA - Sailfish OS _ SailfishOS 3.0.1.11 released by Jolla

Posted by: gabs5807 Jan 12 2019, 04:35 AM

Hallo,
today i read at https://together.jolla.com/question/186471/wiki-geminipda-with-sailfish-os-community-port-on-planet-computers/ that the SailfishOS Version 3.0.1.11 is released by Jolla (older versions came from Community).

At the link above there is a detailed description howto install it.
Third party licensed Software is not included, but landscape mode should work out of the box rolleyes.gif .

I installed it per ssh and after having a short look on it everything worked fine laugh.gif .

Posted by: FrankS Jan 12 2019, 08:12 AM

I wrote a shot message in the pinned "tips and tricks" thread 2 days before you can find https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=35517&view=findpost&p=291076.
It is the version 3.0.1 Jolla is working on atm, still beta. Not released!

Posted by: vader Jan 13 2019, 02:15 AM

I can confirm that the instructions FrankS created work a treat. AFter playing with 3.0.1.11 for a bit, I can say it is a big improvement on 2.1.14.whatever . There are still some problems (headphones, hotspot) but there are some great improvements. The best ones are that landscape properly works now (no patch required), the camera focuses properly (although it is still pretty bad quality wise), and the web browser now supports webgl. This means I can now use the gemini to do my 3d printing on octopi as well a play a few webgl games smile.gif

The new drop down menu is actually useful and grows on you. It takes a little while to swap gestures (close the app by dragging down at the edge of the screen), but once you get the hang of it, it works well. The app gesture (up from the bottom) is also much improved. I used to get about 1 in 4 attempts bringing up the events window. Haven"t had a single one yet.

A lot of apps now work, even if they rotate strangely. The barcode reader now works for example. If the headphone issue - the speakers stay on when you plug in headphones - and the phone microphone (uses the one on the same side as the speaker and wont rotate) was fixed, it would be near perfect. Add in a working hotspot and we would be there.....

I have checked and my dosbox app still works on 3.x, so nothing needed there smile.gif Same with ffmpeg/ffplay.

One more thing - the performance seems faster. By that I mean the time to open apps, and general scrolling etc.

Posted by: epninety Jan 13 2019, 02:32 AM

I broke my 3.0.0.8 install trying to upgrade last week, before these instructions were available. So I can confirm the instructions work just as well if applied to the 'standard' SFOS image from the Gemini website.

I note that from the 'desktop', the escape key works as a on-off as some others had wanted - I previously had to type Fn-Esc to switch off (which still seems more natural to me, but no complaints).
From inside apps like ToeTerm it doesn't switch off, so no loss of function there.
Also the silver button appears to work as on-off as well, so possibly/probably now works to answer calls as well?

Posted by: vader Jan 13 2019, 10:28 PM

It also appears that the reauth wifi bug for X25 (X27 was fixed a while back) has been fixed. I get much better battery life on wifi, and don't suffer stutters when ssh'ed in when the gemini screen is locked. Liking 3.0.1.11 more every day.

Posted by: vader Jan 15 2019, 01:44 AM

OK, I don"t believe I am going to say this, but the camera is almost usable now in 3.0.1.11!!! It still has pretty awful optics, but the focusing is much improved. Videos also work now. Videos (only 720p) are actually quite usable. I don"t know what they did, but the camera is basically usable now. Also works well as a barcode scanner.

Posted by: yoram Jan 15 2019, 12:46 PM

If that is permitted (AFAIK it should be) can someone please share here the rpm files from the adaptation repositories ? I have problem accessing them with my jolla account

Posted by: rasva Jan 16 2019, 10:20 AM

Wow, seems that 4G calling works now. Surely was not in 3.0.0.8 in my case. Apart that I see some weird behaviour of the SD card. Sometimes disappears and is not readable. May be just coincidence and the card is dying after two months.

yoram: if you write me, where these rpm files are stored in the decice, I can share these.

Posted by: yoram Jan 16 2019, 02:52 PM

QUOTE(rasva @ Jan 16 2019, 10:20 AM) *
Wow, seems that 4G calling works now. Surely was not in 3.0.0.8 in my case. Apart that I see some weird behaviour of the SD card. Sometimes disappears and is not readable. May be just coincidence and the card is dying after two months.

yoram: if you write me, where these rpm files are stored in the decice, I can share these.


first of all, thanks for trying to help
the rpm files are deleted after install so they are not founf on the device
they can, howeve, be downloaded by
pkcon download <package>

the names of repository packages can be achived by command like
zypper pa | grep adaptation0

if downloading and sharing all of them is to much work I will understand....

Posted by: easypda Jan 17 2019, 07:55 AM

Hi,

Thanks a lot for the tjc tutorial [Wiki] dealing with how to upgrade Sailfish from stock 2.1.4.14 to 3.0.1.11 EA edited on 2019-01-09. Very good job!
https://together.jolla.com/question/186471/wiki-geminipda-with-sailfish-os-community-port-on-planet-computers/

However, I need your help, because the ?Device adaptation that's results after the upgrade is rev. 0.0.2.10 instead of 0.0.3.10 : so the landscape mode is not working, the keyboard is incorrectly mapped (some keys are not correctly affected), ...

I run the upgrade as described in the tutorial (3.0.0.8 -> 3.0.1.11), but :
- the two repos added with the command ssu ar adaptation-0 and -1 are located in the (user) Enabled repositories... instead of the (global) one
- the resulting adaptation1 URL? ended with armv7hl (witch seems to be correct)
- no need to delete the old repos (were well disabled and with their full URL)

To be complete, I upgraded from rev. 2.1.4.14 to 3.0.0.8 using the /devel:/ branch and not the /testing:/ one and the directories were fixed to sailfish_latest_%(arch) instead of sailfishos_(%release).
I did that in order the upgrade to run well (and the files are more fresh : 19/01/14 in the common directory) : because, using the /testing:/ and sailfishos_(%release) in the URL made, my GeminiPDA was unable to boot after the 2.1.4.14 to 3.0.0.8 upgrade.
The ?GeminiPDA is running well with the 3.0.0.8 upgrade ... but it’s 3.0.0.8!

I don't remember when, but the ssu command sometimes add the a < [D] unknown:0 - “No carrier” > line in his results : I don't know if it is a problem ?

When upgrading, I am not connected to any Jolla account on the device (also, no web page opened with a Jolla login) : I don't know if it's necessary (it's seems no, regarding some posts).

I hope someone could help me, as I tried to do the upgrade many times without success (using the tar archive to restore helpfully, from debian) and I am stuck to the 3.0.0.8 community version.

Thanks a lot!

Posted by: yoram Jan 17 2019, 09:02 AM

QUOTE(easypda @ Jan 17 2019, 07:55 AM) *
Hi,

Thanks a lot for the tjc tutorial [Wiki] dealing with how to upgrade Sailfish from stock 2.1.4.14 to 3.0.1.11 EA edited on 2019-01-09. Very good job!
https://together.jolla.com/question/186471/wiki-geminipda-with-sailfish-os-community-port-on-planet-computers/

However, I need your help, because the ?Device adaptation that's results after the upgrade is rev. 0.0.2.10 instead of 0.0.3.10 : so the landscape mode is not working, the keyboard is incorrectly mapped (some keys are not correctly affected), ...

I run the upgrade as described in the tutorial (3.0.0.8 -> 3.0.1.11), but :
- the two repos added with the command ssu ar adaptation-0 and -1 are located in the (user) Enabled repositories... instead of the (global) one
- the resulting adaptation1 URL? ended with armv7hl (witch seems to be correct)
- no need to delete the old repos (were well disabled and with their full URL)

To be complete, I upgraded from rev. 2.1.4.14 to 3.0.0.8 using the /devel:/ branch and not the /testing:/ one and the directories were fixed to sailfish_latest_%(arch) instead of sailfishos_(%release).
I did that in order the upgrade to run well (and the files are more fresh : 19/01/14 in the common directory) : because, using the /testing:/ and sailfishos_(%release) in the URL made, my GeminiPDA was unable to boot after the 2.1.4.14 to 3.0.0.8 upgrade.
The ?GeminiPDA is running well with the 3.0.0.8 upgrade ... but it’s 3.0.0.8!

I don't remember when, but the ssu command sometimes add the a < [D] unknown:0 - “No carrier” > line in his results : I don't know if it is a problem ?

When upgrading, I am not connected to any Jolla account on the device (also, no web page opened with a Jolla login) : I don't know if it's necessary (it's seems no, regarding some posts).

I hope someone could help me, as I tried to do the upgrade many times without success (using the tar archive to restore helpfully, from debian) and I am stuck to the 3.0.0.8 community version.

Thanks a lot!


I have very similar problem, including the odd message from ssu
on my device, store-repository is.not accessible by any method.
yesterday, the problem as seemed to "magically" fixed and I was able to complete the upgrade. however, after reboot the problem started again.....
also, I tried to do factory reset but it only reboots on gemini pda

Posted by: rasva Jan 17 2019, 11:24 AM

yoram: I have the rpms, will edit this post a bit later....

Edit: OK, as OESF does not allow more than 20MB per file, here is full archive of https://drive.google.com/file/d/11HZzg6J3Bn0ZwfwIYuRZ0SajySHxtEvy/view?usp=sharing

Posted by: yoram Jan 17 2019, 03:03 PM

QUOTE(rasva @ Jan 17 2019, 11:24 AM) *
yoram: I have the rpms, will edit this post a bit later....

Edit: OK, as OESF does not allow more than 20MB per file, here is full archive of https://drive.google.com/file/d/11HZzg6J3Bn0ZwfwIYuRZ0SajySHxtEvy/view?usp=sharing


many many thanks

Posted by: FrankS Jan 29 2019, 07:44 AM

Maybe this https://together.jolla.com/question/197457/store-repository-authentication/ has something to do with your problems since 15th of January.

The answer of Jolla admin tells something about 'configuration change'. Hopefuly its not because of my hack. ;-) Remember: it's a hack to go from the community version to the Jolla beta (maybe early release) and maybe not everybody likes it.

Posted by: yoram Jan 29 2019, 10:23 AM

QUOTE(FrankS @ Jan 29 2019, 07:44 AM) *
Maybe this https://together.jolla.com/question/197457/store-repository-authentication/ has something to do with your problems since 15th of January.

The answer of Jolla admin tells something about 'configuration change'. Hopefuly its not because of my hack. ;-) Remember: it's a hack to go from the community version to the Jolla beta (maybe early release) and maybe not everybody likes it.


thanks, that was my question....
interestingly, at the time, the problem seemed to be solved and I was able to upgrade, after that the problem returned and is still exist...
unfortunatly, factory reset does not reset anything on my geminipda

Posted by: gemini_user_j Feb 5 2019, 06:49 AM

Does anyone know if the licensed version of Sailfish is still expected?
I asked jolla support, and they didn't seem to have any date.


Posted by: Meganerd Feb 13 2019, 06:54 AM

Things I am hoping for:
* WiFi hotspot - I've had the hotspot working on 2.x from CLI, but couldn't in unofficial 3.x build
* USB tether - This was broken on unofficial 3.x build
* 4G Calling - @Rasva confirmed this
* Turn on/off display with ESC cape - This was broken on official 2.x and unofficial 3.x build, but was working on community 2.x
* Quick response time from sleep - I've experienced different speeds of wake time on different builds

@Vader thanks for the webgl iinfo, I would have missed this change if you didn't point it out.

@gemeni_user_j - I am not going to hold my breathe. To be honest even if they did release AlienDalvik does it work with modern Android apps and their dependencies? (I have never used AlienDalvik)

Posted by: Wille Feb 13 2019, 09:49 AM

Anyone installed Sailfish 3 Beta CE available in http://support.planetcom.co.uk/partitionTool.html, is it the same 3.0.1.11?

Posted by: gemini_user_j Feb 13 2019, 05:47 PM

QUOTE(Wille @ Feb 13 2019, 09:49 AM) *
Anyone installed Sailfish 3 Beta CE available in http://support.planetcom.co.uk/partitionTool.html, is it the same 3.0.1.11?

Just installed it, since I was stuck with the spinning loading circle after enabling pin-code lock screen on the version I upgraded to from the terminal inside Jolla.

It looks nicer, and more things are oriented in landscape mode.

however, after rebooting I am ALSO stuck on the loading screen with the spinning teal circle.

I used to be able to dismiss this by swiping left or right, but now I can only access the camera, or the pull-down menu.

I am on gemini x27 on a tripple boot.

I also flashed the provided linux image with the new sailfish.

Posted by: vader Feb 13 2019, 08:37 PM

QUOTE(Meganerd @ Feb 14 2019, 12:54 AM) *
Things I am hoping for:
* WiFi hotspot - I've had the hotspot working on 2.x from CLI, but couldn't in unofficial 3.x build
* USB tether - This was broken on unofficial 3.x build
* 4G Calling - @Rasva confirmed this
* Turn on/off display with ESC cape - This was broken on official 2.x and unofficial 3.x build, but was working on community 2.x
* Quick response time from sleep - I've experienced different speeds of wake time on different builds

@Vader thanks for the webgl iinfo, I would have missed this change if you didn't point it out.

@gemeni_user_j - I am not going to hold my breathe. To be honest even if they did release AlienDalvik does it work with modern Android apps and their dependencies? (I have never used AlienDalvik)


I am using the 3.0.1.11 early adopters version and can say:

* USB tether works for me
* same as 4G calling (well calls when 4G data is selected, which previously didn't work)
* Same with esc - it turns on/off the screen at the home screen.
* response time from sleep seems really good

I have an original (serial number 8) x25 unit - maybe there is a difference.

Posted by: gemini_user_j Feb 14 2019, 09:28 AM

I also just noticed that Sailfish 3 Beta from planet website has trouble installing apps both from jolla and from openrepos, this was not a problem on the sailfish 3 I upgraded to from previous version hosted at planet (2.2 I think)

Posted by: depscribe Feb 14 2019, 09:40 AM

QUOTE(gemini_user_j @ Feb 14 2019, 09:28 AM) *
I also just noticed that Sailfish 3 Beta from planet website has trouble installing apps both from jolla and from openrepos, this was not a problem on the sailfish 3 I upgraded to from previous version hosted at planet (2.2 I think)

Do devel-su pkcon refresh and try again

(per: https://together.jolla.com/question/191922/cannot-update-apps-in-storman-after-30/ which worked here on xperia x and should work on gemini.)

Posted by: FrankS Feb 14 2019, 02:21 PM

The new version announced at planet support page is version 3.0.1.13. This was a cbeta version for testers only and maybe closed.

I updated the wiki on https://together.jolla.com/question/186471/wiki-geminipda-with-sailfish-os-community-port-on-planet-computers/. Updating to the public released version 3.0.1.14 (for XA2 official) is a good way to make it work. The adaptation version for the gemini is 0.0.3.14 after the update (settings->About product: Device adaptation: 0.0.3.14).



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