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Posted by: Varti Dec 20 2018, 12:40 AM

We had a similar thread in the Gemini's subforum, I guess we might open one here too!

New update released yesterday: agreement with the Chinese factory now signed, they have now chosen to keep the P70 as the Cosmo's CPU instead of switching to the new P90, they'll attend CES 2019.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/6

Varti

Posted by: Varti Apr 12 2019, 07:01 AM

New update #14 is out:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/all

(seems like direct linking to single updates on Indiegogo is not working anymore, pity).

PCB now working with the internal display, external display now works too, mechanical mock-up has now been approved.

Varti

Posted by: Daniel W Apr 13 2019, 12:16 PM

QUOTE(Varti @ Apr 12 2019, 04:01 PM) *
New update #14 is out:
PCB now working with the internal display, external display now works too, mechanical mock-up has now been approved.

Yes, and the tooling has started for all metal and plastic mechanical components of the Cosmo.

Hm, I used to joke about the apparent 11-day weeks of Planet Computers... but in 22 weeks, we've gotten 14 "weekly" (as they call them) Cosmo updates, which actually is, on average, one every eleven days... Oh well, it'll come when it's done.

Posted by: gymbo Apr 27 2019, 11:54 AM

Update 15 is out:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator/x/17943959#/updates/all

They may have mentioned it earlier, but the outside screen has a separate processor, and they claim that it makes it independent of the OS in the main screen...

Posted by: gidds May 4 2019, 08:37 AM

QUOTE(gymbo @ Apr 27 2019, 08:54 PM) *
the outside screen has a separate processor, and they claim that it makes it independent of the OS in the main screen...

I'm guessing that'll make it harder to customise, control, &c…?

Posted by: gymbo May 9 2019, 08:18 PM

QUOTE(gidds @ May 4 2019, 06:37 PM) *
QUOTE(gymbo @ Apr 27 2019, 08:54 PM) *
the outside screen has a separate processor, and they claim that it makes it independent of the OS in the main screen...

I'm guessing that'll make it harder to customise, control, &c…?


They also said something about defining what kind of "messages" the two parts can send to one-another, and if that is "known" by the OS, then it should be possible? In terms of customizing the LOOK it should be quite straightforward?? And sending over buttons or menu items should make "toggling" the "right" switches possible in the OS, so it should be possible to do almost anything, unless it is restricted by f.ex. the size of items sent (watching a big video on the outside screen might be impossible, and would be kind of impractical anyway...)?

But anyway, update 16 is out:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator/x/17943959#/updates/all

Don't really remember much about what they said, but of course, you (all of the maybe 200+? people reading this tread) might have different preferences than me, and find all of it very interesting! unsure.gif

Posted by: MonkeyControl May 25 2019, 06:40 PM

Update 17 is out, The first picture alone is worth the price of admission, it looks gorgeous, I just want to stroke it.
Lots of interesting news in the update too.
We're getting pretty close, I'm sooooooo excited.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/all

Posted by: MonkeyControl Jun 20 2019, 11:34 PM

Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 32 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/all

Posted by: Varti Jun 20 2019, 11:39 PM

QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jun 21 2019, 09:34 AM) *
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 32 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/all

In the video they are making an emergency call... I hope that the antenna was attached to a network simulator with the device being registered on it and not on a live network smile.gif

Varti

Posted by: ArchiMark Jun 21 2019, 05:36 AM

QUOTE(Varti @ Jun 21 2019, 12:39 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jun 21 2019, 09:34 AM) *
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 32 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/all

In the video they are making an emergency call... I hope that the antenna was attached to a network simulator with the device being registered on it and not on a live network smile.gif

Varti


Either that or in the next update video, we'll see the fire truck arrive and put the fire out on the Cosmo.......

smile.gif

Posted by: Daniel W Jun 26 2019, 08:22 AM

Well, now Update #19 is out.

QUOTE(Varti @ Jun 21 2019, 09:39 AM) *
In the video they are making an emergency call... I hope that the antenna was attached to a network simulator with the device being registered on it and not on a live network smile.gif

Based on the status bar of the main screen, they had no network coverage at all. I'd guess that's why they were dialing an emergency number, as the Cosmo otherwise probably wouldn't even have botherd trying to making a call, while dialing an emergency number probably forces any smartphone to try anyway, while looking for any network. As the text of Update #18 points out "that the Cover Display is operating in debug engineering mode", it could also be that the Cosmo didnn't actually try making any call, and that 112 was a simple number to dial in the demo.

Were they to dial any other "real" number, at least some of us would certainly try calling that number, just to see who, if anyone, would answer. Since Planet Computers, as far as I know, have no published phone number, they'd need a burner phone or a network simulator, and also make VERY sure nobody actually has, or might soon get, any "real" number they'd dial. Since "everybody" knows what 112 is, I'd guess it's convenient for that reason too, as long as they don't actually dial it for real.

Posted by: gymbo Jun 29 2019, 02:53 PM

QUOTE(Daniel W @ Jun 26 2019, 06:22 PM) *
Well, now Update #19 is out.


And for those who have selected "Other" as their keyboard layout they now have an online form to fill inn with your actual choice, AND they want you to fill it in before 1st of July.

The same goes for those wanting/needing the Verizon version for USA...

Posted by: MonkeyControl Jul 11 2019, 11:46 AM

A message from "The other side", (indiegogo)...

QUOTE(Planet Computers : 1 hour ago)
Big Cosmo backer update coming end of the day tomorrow!

Posted by: ArchiMark Jul 11 2019, 11:56 AM

QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 11 2019, 12:46 PM) *
A message from "The other side", (indiegogo)...
QUOTE(Planet Computers : 1 hour ago)
Big Cosmo backer update coming end of the day tomorrow!



Standing by......

smile.gif

Posted by: Piece_Maker Jul 12 2019, 02:11 PM

QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 11 2019, 08:46 PM) *
A message from "The other side", (indiegogo)...
QUOTE(Planet Computers : 1 hour ago)
Big Cosmo backer update coming end of the day tomorrow!



And where is this quote from? No update today and it's well past Eod today in the UK sad.gif

Posted by: Pikku-iikka Jul 13 2019, 01:24 AM

The Update is there, and I'll comment in 'finnghlish':
Its lukin laik tö ting is rili kaming tu as. Mii kännot veit tu ket mai händs on it - för helvete...

Posted by: MonkeyControl Jul 25 2019, 11:12 AM

Another message from "The other side"...

QUOTE(Planet Computers : 3 hour ago)
There will be a new Cosmo Backer update over the weekend.

Posted by: Daniel W Jul 25 2019, 02:18 PM

QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 25 2019, 09:12 PM) *
Another message from "The other side"...

Thank you for keeping an eye on the IGG comments. After trying to do so for a while, the general tone made me go away. While I'm not easily offended, it just made me sad.

Looking forward to the weekend update (I'm guessing it arrives on Monday). In the last update, from about two weeks ago, they said they'd publish the final mass production schedule "soon", so I hope this update will deliver on that. In another thread I guessed mass production would commence on July 29. I'm seriously starting to doubt that guess now. We'll soon see, I hope.

Posted by: gymbo Jul 25 2019, 04:02 PM

QUOTE(Daniel W @ Jul 26 2019, 12:18 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 25 2019, 09:12 PM) *
Another message from "The other side"...

Thank you for keeping an eye on the IGG comments. After trying to do so for a while, the general tone made me go away. While I'm not easily offended, it just made me sad.

Looking forward to the weekend update (I'm guessing it arrives on Monday). In the last update, from about two weeks ago, they said they'd publish the final mass production schedule "soon", so I hope this update will deliver on that. In another thread I guessed mass production would commence on July 29. I'm seriously starting to doubt that guess now. We'll soon see, I hope.

"Over the weekend" in "Planet-speak" would probably just mean before NEXT weekend tongue.gif

But they could of course surprise us by being "on time" this time??

A short description of "Planet time":

And as an effect of all of this, a "Planet lightyear" will then be longer than the "standard". (Which again makes kind of sense in that Planet is an English company, and the English have a history of not "liking standards" in the first place...)

Posted by: MonkeyControl Jul 25 2019, 11:15 PM

QUOTE(Daniel_W)
After trying to do so for a while, the general tone made me go away.
I know what you mean, the miserable minority was doing my head in too. I had to close my account before I had another drink and posted what I really thought. I only go there now to look for Planet's golden needles in a haystack containing poo, but even then it feels like I'm rubbernecking.
QUOTE(gymbo)
A minute is 100 seconds (easier to work with mathematically...)
An hour is 100 minutes (same as for minutes...)
It's okay, I'm sure the UK has just finally gone metric. erm...
QUOTE(gymbo)
Which again makes kind of sense in that Planet is an English company, and the English have a history of not "liking standards" in the first place...)
When I grew up there I was always taught the mantra that the great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from.

We will get there.
I'm sure the Cosmo will be worth it, but like Xmas, the waiting is the hard part. Personally, I'm not anxious at all right now, honest, really, if I can just convince myself...

Posted by: Pikku-iikka Jul 26 2019, 12:54 AM

QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 26 2019, 10:15 AM) *
QUOTE(gymbo)
A minute is 100 seconds (easier to work with mathematically...)
An hour is 100 minutes (same as for minutes...)

It's okay, I'm sure the UK has just finally gone metric. erm...

Ahh... those days in '70s and '80s when imported british vehicles had screws we home-mechanics didn't have tools for. Can't remember if those were torx style, brits being ahead of times? Now, when the brexit seems to become reality, maybe Britain will take some steps backwords - away from metrics and towards pounds, shillings & pennies. Just kidding blink.gif I've always felt sympathy for british life style & stuff, but now I feel sadness them leaving EU so surprisingly and to my opinion: unthinkably. Cheers'... (kippis).

-Pikku-iikka

Posted by: MonkeyControl Jul 26 2019, 01:32 AM

QUOTE(Pikku-iikka @ Jul 26 2019, 08:54 PM) *
Ahh... those days in '70s and '80s when imported british vehicles had screws we home-mechanics didn't have tools for. Can't remember if those were torx style, brits being ahead of times?
So those were torx screwheads. I wish you had told me that back then, you would have saved me a fortune in broken knuckles, bad language and tins of WD40. I thought everybody maintained vehicles this way. I still have my large collection of hammers and pliers for servicing, but these days my Mazda and Nissan seem to have little need for them.

Posted by: Vistaus Jul 26 2019, 10:49 AM

QUOTE(Piece_Maker @ Jul 13 2019, 12:11 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 11 2019, 08:46 PM) *
A message from "The other side", (indiegogo)...
QUOTE(Planet Computers : 1 hour ago)
Big Cosmo backer update coming end of the day tomorrow!



And where is this quote from? No update today and it's well past Eod today in the UK sad.gif


That was posted on July 11, look at the original post wink.gif And that update turned out to be Update #20.

New update (#21) is coming this weekend.

Posted by: gidds Jul 26 2019, 04:39 PM

QUOTE(Pikku-iikka @ Jul 26 2019, 09:54 AM) *
I feel sadness them leaving EU so surprisingly and to my opinion: unthinkably.

Some of us Brits feel exactly the same! (Remember that almost half of us voted to remain in the EU -- and many of the rest weren't expecting such a drastic approach to leaving, nor the incompetence with which it's being handled. Yet somehow those at the centre of politics have turned it into a childish my-Brexit-is-harder-than-yours competition! Whatever happens, it's not going to end well -- and there seems to be nothing that any of us can do to stop it.)

Posted by: Piece_Maker Jul 27 2019, 11:33 AM

QUOTE(Vistaus @ Jul 26 2019, 07:49 PM) *
QUOTE(Piece_Maker @ Jul 13 2019, 12:11 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 11 2019, 08:46 PM) *
A message from "The other side", (indiegogo)...
QUOTE(Planet Computers : 1 hour ago)
Big Cosmo backer update coming end of the day tomorrow!



And where is this quote from? No update today and it's well past Eod today in the UK sad.gif


That was posted on July 11, look at the original post wink.gif And that update turned out to be Update #20.

New update (#21) is coming this weekend.


My post was on the 12th (ie. the day after the 'end of day tomorrow' post), you should probably check the dates on posts before you try pointing out people who don't check dates on posts laugh.gif

In all seriousness, I'm absolutely looking forward to this update more than anything else. Assuming nothing went wrong between the last update and now this could be the one we're all eagerly waiting for smile.gif

Posted by: MonkeyControl Jul 28 2019, 03:39 PM

Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 37 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/all

Posted by: gymbo Jul 28 2019, 03:43 PM

QUOTE(gymbo @ Jul 26 2019, 02:02 AM) *
QUOTE(Daniel W @ Jul 26 2019, 12:18 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 25 2019, 09:12 PM) *
Another message from "The other side"...

Thank you for keeping an eye on the IGG comments. After trying to do so for a while, the general tone made me go away. While I'm not easily offended, it just made me sad.

Looking forward to the weekend update (I'm guessing it arrives on Monday). In the last update, from about two weeks ago, they said they'd publish the final mass production schedule "soon", so I hope this update will deliver on that. In another thread I guessed mass production would commence on July 29. I'm seriously starting to doubt that guess now. We'll soon see, I hope.

"Over the weekend" in "Planet-speak" would probably just mean before NEXT weekend tongue.gif

But they could of course surprise us by being "on time" this time??

A short description of "Planet time":
  • A minute is 100 seconds (easier to work with mathematically...)
  • An hour is 100 minutes (same as for minutes...)
  • A day is 26 hours, at least!! (Or is it probably 25 hours, as that is easier to work with mathematically???) (Which kind of suits me, as my daily cycle probably is closer to that than 24 hours)
  • A week is 8 days (If that gives them one more day of work, or of the weekend, I do not know...)
  • A month is probably 33 1/3 days (unless they need some more time; then it is 50 days...)
  • And a year is then at least 400 days (and might be 600...)
And as an effect of all of this, a "Planet lightyear" will then be longer than the "standard". (Which again makes kind of sense in that Planet is an English company, and the English have a history of not "liking standards" in the first place...)

I stand corrected: Over the weekend actually turned out to be just "over the weekend" (and by just a few minutes too...). Somebody must have fixed all the clock and calendars over there!!! (If they could just fix the alarms in Agenda as well, things would really start looking good...)

If it wasn't obvious by the statement above: Cosmo update 21 is out:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/all

Slight delay in schedule, but that is probably a good thing (compared to a rushed product with faults/flaws...)!!

Posted by: gymbo Jul 28 2019, 03:49 PM

QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 29 2019, 01:39 AM) *
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 37 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...or#/updates/all

And to make another useless post; I was apparently a few minutes late with my post about it blink.gif
(or should I say ph34r.gif )

Hadn't seen your post when I started posting...

Posted by: Daniel W Jul 28 2019, 04:01 PM

QUOTE(gymbo @ Jul 29 2019, 01:43 AM) *
Slight delay in schedule, but that is probably a good thing (compared to a rushed product with faults/flaws...)!!

Compared to the (already delayed) schedule from Update #13, we've now essentially slipped another month, with start of mass production scheduled for the last week of August, so shipping can thus occur no earlier than September, suggesting that the Cosmo will, much like the Gemini, be about four months late, pending that no further issues are found in the PR2 samples, that is. But yes, indeed, rather get it right than rush it.

Posted by: gymbo Jul 28 2019, 04:27 PM

QUOTE(Daniel W @ Jul 29 2019, 02:01 AM) *
QUOTE(gymbo @ Jul 29 2019, 01:43 AM) *
Slight delay in schedule, but that is probably a good thing (compared to a rushed product with faults/flaws...)!!

Compared to the (already delayed) schedule from Update #13, we've now essentially slipped another month, with start of mass production scheduled for the last week of August, so shipping can thus occur no earlier than September, suggesting that the Cosmo will, much like the Gemini, be about four months late, pending that no further issues are found in the PR2 samples, that is. But yes, indeed, rather get it right than rush it.

I should of course have said "slight FURTHER delay in schedule", but I would still rather have it "right" than a "left hand work" (don't really know if it is an expression in English, but assume people understand what I mean, and it fits quite good with wanting it to be "right" tongue.gif ).

Of course, if I don't have it by Christmas, I will be quite annoyed with Santa Claus... (Which of course would be totally unfair, because as far as we know he doesn't work there, does he? Although, if he indeed DOES work there, that might account for their somewhat "loose" concepts of time: As anybody knows Santa Clause needs to have som kind of "time-bending" capabilities in order to get around and deliver all those those presents for Christmas, so it would be fair to assume that time around him wold be kind of erratic ... rolleyes.gif unsure.gif blink.gif )

Posted by: MonkeyControl Jul 28 2019, 10:03 PM

QUOTE(gymbo @ Jul 29 2019, 11:49 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 29 2019, 01:39 AM) *
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 37 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/all

And to make another useless post; I was apparently a few minutes late with my post about it blink.gif
(or should I say ph34r.gif )

Hadn't seen your post when I started posting...

Sorry Gymbo, I didn't mean to steal your thunder by four minutes, but bizarrely UK 'Planet time' seems to align very well with NZ 'Normal person time' for some reason.
Then again, I had just spent the previous six hours staring at the indiegogo page while tapping the refresh icon on the browser.

Posted by: gymbo Jul 29 2019, 10:56 AM

QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 29 2019, 08:03 AM) *
QUOTE(gymbo @ Jul 29 2019, 11:49 AM) *
QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Jul 29 2019, 01:39 AM) *
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 37 Update

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-co...or#/updates/all

And to make another useless post; I was apparently a few minutes late with my post about it blink.gif
(or should I say ph34r.gif )

Hadn't seen your post when I started posting...

Sorry Gymbo, I didn't mean to steal your thunder by four minutes, but bizarrely UK 'Planet time' seems to align very well with NZ 'Normal person time' for some reason.
Then again, I had just spent the previous six hours staring at the indiegogo page while tapping the refresh icon on the browser.

OK, since you spent six hours staring at the Indiegogo page and hitting refresh (you must have gotten sore fingers...), I will forgive you laugh.gif

Posted by: maki.jouni Aug 14 2019, 10:58 AM

Another message from "The other side"... There is announce teaser about new update on IndieGoGo...

"
There have been a number of comments about the next backer update. As expected we have been involved with a lot of testing over the past weeks. There will be a new exciting Cosmo backer update this Friday.
"

Posted by: Daniel W Aug 15 2019, 11:27 AM

Thank you for picking that gem out of the mud. If their estimates in Update #21 worked out, Planet Computers should be receiving the PR2 samples approximately today, and the mass production should commence in eleven or so days.

Posted by: drpeter Aug 16 2019, 03:14 PM

Latest update is up....

Looks like all is on schedule for manufacture last week in August! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ArchiMark Aug 16 2019, 03:28 PM

QUOTE(drpeter @ Aug 16 2019, 04:14 PM) *
Latest update is up....

Looks like all is on schedule for manufacture last week in August! rolleyes.gif


Yes, indeed.....

Looks good in the video....

biggrin.gif


Posted by: Varti Aug 17 2019, 01:04 AM

Very good news, and interesting that they have arranged a Cosmo backers meetup in Tokyo - I believe there's a lot of interest for this device in Japan.

Varti

Posted by: jakfish Aug 17 2019, 08:40 AM

If they're rolling off the line at end of August, any wild guess as to actual shipment? I wonder how long the actual assembly takes in the factory.

Posted by: Daniel W Aug 17 2019, 12:08 PM

QUOTE(jakfish @ Aug 17 2019, 06:40 PM) *
If they're rolling off the line at end of August, any wild guess as to actual shipment? I wonder how long the actual assembly takes in the factory.
The first Gemini PCB mass production begun around Saturday, January 20, 2018 (Update #44). Final assembly of entire devices begun on Thursday, February 1, 2018 (Update #45) and was complete on Saturday, February 10 (Update #48). The earliest post I have found here on OESF from a user who received their Gemini, says it arrived on Thursday, March 1, 2018. I got my (X25) Gemini on Wednesday, March 21, 2018.

How these numbers might translate to the Cosmo is anybody's guess.

Posted by: DJO Aug 19 2019, 09:04 AM

QUOTE(Daniel W @ Aug 17 2019, 08:08 PM) *
How these numbers might translate to the Cosmo is anybody's guess.


We can do a little bit more than guess, the run will probably be bigger than the first Gemini one as they only made ~1,000 Geminis on the that run (with the x25), the device is a bit more complex but conversely they have manufacturing experience with the Gemini which should transfer to the Cosmo easily enough.

So probably a little longer, assuming no serious problems in production, 6 to 7 weeks after all the parts are delivered to the factory.



Posted by: Vistaus Aug 20 2019, 01:46 AM

QUOTE(DJO @ Aug 19 2019, 07:04 PM) *
QUOTE(Daniel W @ Aug 17 2019, 08:08 PM) *
How these numbers might translate to the Cosmo is anybody's guess.


We can do a little bit more than guess, the run will probably be bigger than the first Gemini one as they only made ~1,000 Geminis on the that run (with the x25), the device is a bit more complex but conversely they have manufacturing experience with the Gemini which should transfer to the Cosmo easily enough.

So probably a little longer, assuming no serious problems in production, 6 to 7 weeks after all the parts are delivered to the factory.


All the Cosmo parts are already delivered to the factory currently, so production speed will be faster this time around.

Posted by: jakfish Aug 20 2019, 07:39 AM

My own wild guess is that it will be a big surprise, one way or another.

But you folks' number-crunching is fascinating to ponder.

Jake

Posted by: maki.jouni Aug 22 2019, 03:36 AM

Japanese page about Press launch...
https://kakakumag.com/pc-smartphone/?id=14268

And same in english by googletranslate...
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fkakakumag.com%2Fpc-smartphone%2F%3Fid%3D14268



Posted by: maki.jouni Aug 22 2019, 04:08 AM

QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Aug 22 2019, 02:36 PM) *
Japanese page about Press launch...
https://kakakumag.com/pc-smartphone/?id=14268

And same in english by googletranslate...
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fkakakumag.com%2Fpc-smartphone%2F%3Fid%3D14268


another page
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fpc.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2Fnews%2F1202859.html

Posted by: MonkeyControl Aug 22 2019, 11:52 AM

QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Aug 23 2019, 12:08 AM) *
QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Aug 22 2019, 02:36 PM) *
Japanese page about Press launch...
https://kakakumag.com/pc-smartphone/?id=14268

And same in english by googletranslate...
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fkakakumag.com%2Fpc-smartphone%2F%3Fid%3D14268


another page
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fpc.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2Fnews%2F1202859.html

Thanks for the heads up maki.jouni, I devoured those articles with my coffee and toast this morning.
I was wondering how it went for the Planet team in Tokyo, but was unable to find any articles online myself.
Keep those links coming. smile.gif

Posted by: jakfish Aug 22 2019, 12:35 PM

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fkakakumag.com%2Fpc-smartphone%2F%3Fid%3D14268[/quote]

'“Cosmo Communicator” is a product that is quite wacky but unbearable for those who sting.'

Man, I'd like to know what that sentence really was in Japanese. smile.gif

Posted by: MonkeyControl Aug 22 2019, 01:28 PM

QUOTE(jakfish @ Aug 23 2019, 08:35 AM) *
'“Cosmo Communicator” is a product that is quite wacky but unbearable for those who sting.'

Man, I'd like to know what that sentence really was in Japanese. smile.gif


My favourite:
"It's a little thing, but it's irresistible for those who stab"

Posted by: vader Aug 22 2019, 02:25 PM

QUOTE(jakfish @ Aug 23 2019, 08:35 AM) *
'“Cosmo Communicator” is a product that is quite wacky but unbearable for those who sting.'


A non-google translator gives:

"Cosmo Communicator" is a rather quaint product, but it is not the only one who sits in the same way.If you like the gadget, check it, and you won't lose it.

Makes a bit more sense smile.gif

Posted by: jakfish Aug 22 2019, 02:43 PM

Yeah, that translation helps. Thanks.

Posted by: Daniel W Aug 22 2019, 04:16 PM

QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Aug 22 2019, 02:08 PM) *
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fkakakumag.com%2Fpc-smartphone%2F%3Fid%3D14268
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fpc.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2Fnews%2F1202859.html

Interesting reading, thanks for the links. I think this is the first time I've seen a picture of the back of the Cosmo.

I hope the specification from PC Watch, saying that "Type-C port supports HDMI output" is correct. It would be nice to not have to depend on a proprietary adapter for that. The next sentence, saying "USB PD is not supported, but one port is compatible with MediaTek's fast charging technology 'Pump Express'" is a tad worrying though. I was under the impression that, according to Update #8, "Both the left hand side and right hand side USB-C interfaces will be able to charge the Cosmo".

Perhaps I'm reading too much into a pair of news articles. Both claims the Cosmo supports Bluetooth 5.0, which seems unlikely, as the Helio P70 (which one of the articles calls "Helio 970"), according to MediaTek, only supports up to Bluetooth 4.2, so maybe other stated facts aren't completely correct either. Time will tell.

I can't help but find it a tad ironic that news articles from Japan spreads quicker than the official communication from Planet Computers, but well, that's how it is. Either way, I'm grateful for the information.

Edit: And, oh. Cosmo Update #23 is out, offering a link to details pertaining to a backer meetup in Tokyo. While in the other end of the world for me, I hope those attending has a great time.

Posted by: Vistaus Aug 23 2019, 01:38 AM

Awesome, thanks for sharing! smile.gif

Btw, regarding that second link: I wonder if the reviewer ever saw anything else besides macOS 'cause to me the dock looks almost the same as the AmigaOS 4.1 dock, not the macOS dock.

Posted by: maki.jouni Aug 23 2019, 08:37 AM

There is one new Japanese site with new and relatively sharp images.

http://www.gdm.or.jp/crew/2019/0822/317448

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gdm.or.jp%2Fcrew%2F2019%2F0822%2F317448

Posted by: maki.jouni Aug 23 2019, 09:25 AM

And one new japanese news

https://k-tai.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1202894.html
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ja&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fk-tai.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2Fnews%2F1202894.html



And few post from twitter wich might be from backers event

https://twitter.com/kawatoko/status/1164856296601899010
https://twitter.com/kawatoko/status/1164853806258982912
https://twitter.com/palmdra/status/1164896764614205440
https://twitter.com/kani7/status/1164902496122236930
https://twitter.com/gorry5/status/1164857697298087936
https://twitter.com/kawatoko/status/1164853793277657089
https://twitter.com/gorry5/status/1164843703933923329
https://twitter.com/gorry5/status/1164844598037868546
https://twitter.com/gorry5/status/1164845649105281025
https://twitter.com/gorry5/status/1164857697298087936
https://twitter.com/gorry5/status/1164865326204375040

Posted by: maki.jouni Aug 23 2019, 10:42 AM

Iikka were found that "Cosmo has arrived to Planet’s website:"

https://store.planetcom.co.uk/collections/devices/products/cosmo-communicator

Posted by: Daniel W Aug 24 2019, 10:12 AM

QUOTE(k-tai.watch)
...the USB Type-C ports on both sides are compatible with Mediatek's “Pump Express” quick charging technology on the left side...
Not sure what Google Translate is trying to say here... can someone here read the original Japanese?

QUOTE(k-tai.watch)
...backlit keyboard. The brightness can be adjusted in 5 steps...
Yesss!

Posted by: DJO Aug 24 2019, 02:16 PM

QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Aug 23 2019, 06:42 PM) *
Iikka were found that "Cosmo has arrived to Planet’s website:"

https://store.planetcom.co.uk/collections/devices/products/cosmo-communicator


In the spec it says:
"Sensors Accelerometer, light sensor, gyroscope, magnetic-sensor"
So have they worked out how to make the compass work with all the magnets holding it shut or should it have read:
"Sensors Accelerometer, light sensor, gyroscope, magnetic-sensor(disabled)"
No compass on the Gemini is a shame because it means astronomy apps don't work so well, it'd be nice if they would work on the Cosmo.

Sod this, I'll email them and ask, I'll get back if I get a reply.


Posted by: gymbo Aug 24 2019, 06:04 PM

QUOTE(Daniel W @ Aug 24 2019, 08:12 PM) *
QUOTE(k-tai.watch)
...the USB Type-C ports on both sides are compatible with Mediatek's “Pump Express” quick charging technology on the left side...
Not sure what Google Translate is trying to say here... can someone here read the original Japanese?


I think I have seen it mentioned somewhere else (or it might be what my interpretation of the Googlified text was...): It supports "standard" charge on both sides and "Pump Express" only on the left side??

I don't read/speak Japanese at all, but that is how I understood/interpreted it... And if that is the case, I'm OK with that.

Posted by: Varti Aug 29 2019, 02:21 AM

Someone has posted on Facebook a link to a video of the backers' meetup in Japan... I wish I could have attended it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46tHcNwwkN8



Varti

Posted by: MonkeyControl Aug 29 2019, 11:57 AM

QUOTE(Varti @ Aug 29 2019, 10:21 PM) *
I wish I could have attended it!

Ditto Varti, I would have loved to be there too. On the plus side though, it looks beautiful, and we're very nearly there. Soon we won't be discussing videos and articles, we'll be discussing our new toys.

Posted by: Daniel W Aug 29 2019, 01:42 PM

Indeed. However, if production, as scheduled, actually begun THIS, wouldn't we have heard, at least SOMETHING, about it by now?

I'm not going to act like I'm surprised that Planet Computers says nothing. Still, in the very midst of what could be the most exciting week of the Cosmo project thus far, isn't the complete radio silence a bit too quiet for comfort, even by their standards? Or am I missing just something?

Posted by: jakfish Aug 30 2019, 06:22 AM

I worry less about PC and more about the effect of a crash-out Brexit on Cosmo production and shipping.

Jake

Posted by: Daniel W Aug 30 2019, 11:53 AM

As payments were handled by Indiegogo in the US, the factory is in China and the main warehouse is in Hong Kong, I doubt the crowdfunded Cosmos would be affected much, though shipments to the EU would better not be routed via the UK. What might get nasty post-Brexit, I think, is if EU customers has to order new things from, or have faulty units repaired in, the UK. Planet Computers has a partner for the market in Japan. Perhaps they'll also need one to handle repairs and further sales in the EU.

Disclaimer: I'm not a subject expert, there may be issues I can't think of. I'm just sharing my thoughts, while waiting for the next official update.

Posted by: jakfish Aug 30 2019, 01:58 PM

Thank you for a more optimistic approach than mine. I like yours better.

Jake

Posted by: maki.jouni Sep 1 2019, 08:24 AM

New activity on the other side...

" New backer update will be posted by end of day Monday. "

Posted by: MonkeyControl Sep 1 2019, 12:27 PM

QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Sep 2 2019, 04:24 AM) *
New activity on the other side...

" New backer update will be posted by end of day Monday. "

Thanks for the update
I also came across another review link on 'the other side', I don't think this one has been posted over here yet: https://weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/433/433262/
With google translation https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fweekly.ascii.jp%2Felem%2F000%2F000%2F433%2F433262%2F

Posted by: MonkeyControl Sep 2 2019, 05:33 PM

QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Sep 2 2019, 04:24 AM) *
New activity on the other side...

" New backer update will be posted by end of day Monday. "

Hmmm,
Feels like Tuesday over here...
Must still be Monday on Planet Time.
Standing by on the browser refresh button.

Posted by: maki.jouni Sep 3 2019, 01:16 AM

new activity on the other side of other side...

https://vimeo.com/planetcomputers

Posted by: maki.jouni Sep 3 2019, 01:20 AM

QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Sep 3 2019, 12:16 PM) *
new activity on the other side of other side...

https://vimeo.com/planetcomputers


any minute now, new update will be out...

Posted by: maki.jouni Sep 3 2019, 01:48 AM

QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Sep 3 2019, 12:20 PM) *
QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Sep 3 2019, 12:16 PM) *
new activity on the other side of other side...

https://vimeo.com/planetcomputers


any minute now, new update will be out...


And new update is out on IndieGoGo... Production has started...

Posted by: MonkeyControl Sep 3 2019, 11:36 AM

QUOTE(jakfish @ Aug 31 2019, 02:22 AM) *
I worry less about PC and more about the effect of a crash-out Brexit on Cosmo production and shipping.

Jake

FYI
QUOTE(Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 42 Update)
Questions about importing into Europe

We plan to import Cosmo units on bulk into Europe to the UK (before the latest Brexit deadline) and ship them out EU backers from the UK. So there should be no extra duties payable.

Hopefully this puts Brexit concerns at ease a bit.

Posted by: gidds Sep 3 2019, 10:55 PM

QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Sep 3 2019, 08:36 PM) *
Hopefully this puts Brexit concerns at ease a bit.

(…regarding the Cosmo, at least…)

Posted by: Daniel W Sep 6 2019, 05:56 AM

Update #25 is out, telling that the Cosmo has been approved for Google Mobile Services, meaning it will be able to run the licensed version of various Google services and apps, such as Play Store, Maps, Search and what not.

Posted by: gidds Sep 6 2019, 09:56 AM

Are the Google Mobile Services the same as on the Gemini?  If so, was there ever any real doubt about them?

Posted by: Daniel W Sep 7 2019, 06:48 AM

QUOTE(gidds @ Sep 6 2019, 07:56 PM) *
Are the Google Mobile Services the same as on the Gemini?  If so, was there ever any real doubt about them?

I think this has more to do with formal approvals, rather than anything related to actual functionality.

Back on Nougat, my Gemini used to say, somewhere in the About phone section of the settings, something akin to not being approved for Google services, yet they worked just fine all along. Currently, on Oreo, my Gemini, claims to have a serial number of 0123456789ABCDEF, which, obviously, is inaccurate, be it in a, mostly, irrelevant way. As a nerd or geek, I can live with that.

However, as the Cosmo, reasonably, aspires to be a "real", if fairly niche, mainstream product, rather than the pioneering device, for the specially interested, that is the Gemini, Planet Computers reasonably has to get from "well, it works" to "it works well", as selling a device complaining about not being properly licensed or showing a serial number, suggesting the device might have been hacked, or something, probably wouldn't be very well received among a more general population.


Posted by: AGdesigns-NL Sep 11 2019, 02:58 AM

Hi guys (i'm new here happy.gif )
I just received a mail from Planet stating they expect the Cosmo will be ready for shipping end of this month (Order placed in Juli) so the brexit wont be an issue. They will send us the tracking details once it is shipper. So fingers crossed that there wont be a delay rolleyes.gif .

Posted by: ArchiMark Sep 11 2019, 06:05 AM

QUOTE(AGdesigns-NL @ Sep 11 2019, 03:58 AM) *
Hi guys (i'm new here happy.gif )
I just received a mail from Planet stating they expect the Cosmo will be ready for shipping end of this month (Order placed in Juli) so the brexit wont be an issue. They will send us the tracking details once it is shipper. So fingers crossed that there wont be a delay rolleyes.gif .


Welcome to the club!

To clarify, think Planet said in recent update that the 'first batch' of Cosmos will start shipping by end of the month. However, depending upon the total number of orders and where you are in the order queue, you may or may not get your Cosmo from the first batch. If not, yours could be from the next batch.

And to be clear, I'm not saying whether you will or won't get one from the first batch. Just trying to explain how this works for you and otheres.

Hope this makes sense.

Mark

Posted by: ArchiMark Sep 11 2019, 07:46 AM

And more info from Planet's recent Week 42 Update....

Based upon them saying they have 4000 PCB's, assume it means the 'first batch' to ship out will have 4000 Cosmo's minus some used for testing or don't meet specs, etc.

So, if your order is within this number of units, you should be getting one from first batch I think.....

We shall see.....

smile.gif

Mark


QUOTE
Production has started!

Big news! We have started production!

Production has indeed started this week, with 4000 Cosmo PCBs being produced this week.

First Cosmo units are now scheduled to be assembled next week and the assembly and packaging schedules will continue during all of September.

We now expect that the first Cosmo Communicator perks will be shipped out to backers in about two weeks.

Posted by: mithrandir Sep 11 2019, 11:00 AM

QUOTE(AGdesigns-NL @ Sep 11 2019, 02:58 AM) *
Hi guys (i'm new here happy.gif )
I just received a mail from Planet stating they expect the Cosmo will be ready for shipping end of this month (Order placed in Juli) so the brexit wont be an issue. They will send us the tracking details once it is shipper. So fingers crossed that there wont be a delay rolleyes.gif .


Have placed my order in November last year, (#8xx) and got no mail yet. So, I think the shipping date may also depend on keyboard selection (some keyboard layouts might have not been delivered to Planet yet). At least it has been this way with the Gemini. My keyboard layout is German. What is yours?

Posted by: maki.jouni Sep 12 2019, 12:09 AM

QUOTE(ArchiMark @ Sep 11 2019, 06:46 PM) *
And more info from Planet's recent Week 42 Update....

Based upon them saying they have 4000 PCB's, assume it means the 'first batch' to ship out will have 4000 Cosmo's minus some used for testing or don't meet specs, etc.

So, if your order is within this number of units, you should be getting one from first batch I think.....

We shall see.....

smile.gif

Mark


QUOTE
Production has started!

Big news! We have started production!

Production has indeed started this week, with 4000 Cosmo PCBs being produced this week.

First Cosmo units are now scheduled to be assembled next week and the assembly and packaging schedules will continue during all of September.

We now expect that the first Cosmo Communicator perks will be shipped out to backers in about two weeks.



So there should now be 4000 PCBs ready

Firsts, not all, Cosmo units are under assembly and packing. Assembly and packing will continue during all of September.

Firsts, not all, Cosmo units are scheduled to be shipped out to backers in about two weeks from update

Posted by: ArchiMark Sep 12 2019, 06:26 AM

Good points, mithrandir and maki.jouni....

Since I ordered mine first week of June, I'm guessing I'll see mine in October hopefully.....

We shall see.....




Posted by: maki.jouni Sep 12 2019, 07:34 AM

QUOTE(ArchiMark @ Sep 12 2019, 05:26 PM) *
Since I ordered mine first week of June, I'm guessing I'll see mine in October hopefully.....

We shall see.....


I placed my order on December... I can only hope......

Posted by: szopin Sep 17 2019, 02:07 AM

More news coming Thursday it seems:

QUOTE
Planet Computers 8 minutes ago
Project Owner

We will be posting a brand new backer update this Thursday night!

Posted by: maki.jouni Sep 17 2019, 05:43 AM

QUOTE(szopin @ Sep 17 2019, 01:07 PM) *
More news coming Thursday it seems:
QUOTE
Planet Computers 8 minutes ago
Project Owner

We will be posting a brand new backer update this Thursday night!



There's gonna be long night once again, hitting refresh button on "Otherside" and "Otherside of otherside" (IndieGoGo and Vimeo)

Posted by: gymbo Sep 18 2019, 05:32 PM

QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Sep 17 2019, 03:43 PM) *
QUOTE(szopin @ Sep 17 2019, 01:07 PM) *
More news coming Thursday it seems:
QUOTE
Planet Computers 8 minutes ago
Project Owner

We will be posting a brand new backer update this Thursday night!



There's gonna be long night once again, hitting refresh button on "Otherside" and "Otherside of otherside" (IndieGoGo and Vimeo)

Planet must be near a black hole or something (or maybe we are?): They actually kept the "deadline" for the update:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/all

Really nothing more than a "things are progressing more or less according to plan", but that in it self is quite positive... tongue.gif

Posted by: Varti Sep 18 2019, 11:46 PM

QUOTE(gymbo @ Sep 19 2019, 03:32 AM) *
Planet must be near a black hole or something (or maybe we are?): They actually kept the "deadline" for the update:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/all

Really nothing more than a "things are progressing more or less according to plan", but that in it self is quite positive... tongue.gif

The pouch has a holder for a stylus... I wonder if there will be an official stylus from Planet? Love the new site layout too.

Varti

Posted by: maki.jouni Sep 19 2019, 10:56 AM

So here is few highlights from our last update...

First, something about schedule... Sorry about that I'm reading this update like devil reads bible, but reading these update between lines, you know what is going on.

"There was a short delay"
"this has taken a few days longer"
"last part finally arriving today"
"First Cosmo mass production assmebly is now due to start at the beginning of next week"
"First mass production packaging of the Cosmo is to follow shortly after"
"hoping that the first backers to receive their Cosmos in the last week of September / first week of October"

So Assembly is starting next week, that is also last full week of September. And at same week "hoping that the first backers to receive their Cosmos in the last week of September"

So I think we can assume that first Cosmos can be received somewhere 2nd or 3rd week of October, or something like that?



And update contained few teasers also...

"
Our CTO, Dr Davide Guidi, will be travelling to China this weekend and visiting the assembly plant to oversee the first Cosmo mass production assembly and packaging.

We will be on the ground providing updates next week

"

So it says updates, not update... sounds that we have exciting next week containing few updates, sounds good...



"
Tomorrow we will be filming several How-To videos about the Cosmo that will act as introductory online video tutorials on how to use your Cosmo.

These will be posted on-line in a few weeks

"

in a few weeks there'll be also few videos where they are showing Cosmo in fully functional and playing around with it, sounds good...



And also regular "More news from us from next week" -signature at the end wink.gif

"
More news from us from the assmebly line next week!
"

Posted by: maki.jouni Sep 26 2019, 04:56 AM

new teaser

"
There will ne a new backer update later today!
"

Posted by: Peetz0r Sep 26 2019, 05:59 AM

QUOTE
Production has indeed started this week, with 4000 Cosmo PCBs being produced this week.

QUOTE
Indiegogo contribution #3999 receipt for Cosmo Communicator

Oops... I guess mine will be in batch #2.
Maybe this is a good thing, so I can have fixes for early issues in mine?

Edit: new https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator/x/22226847#/updates/27!
QUOTE
Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 45 Update

Dear Cosmo backers!

Here is our latest update from our factory in China announcing exciting news...

The first mass produced Cosmo Communicators came off the production line yesterday!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator/x/22226847#/updates/27 are photos from the factory floor and the Cosmo production line , sent by our CTO:

The pictures say it all!

We are very pleased that we have reached this milestone.

The Cosmo release firmware has also been signed off this week and has been flashed into the produced Cosmo Communicators.

We are now going through a set of quality control checks on the Cosmos produced this week.

Following the quality checks, the first Cosmo will be packaged, sent to our warehouse in Hong Kong and then sent out to backers.

More from us soon.

Best regards,

Team Cosmo

Posted by: gymbo Sep 26 2019, 04:25 PM

QUOTE(Varti @ Sep 19 2019, 09:46 AM) *
QUOTE(gymbo @ Sep 19 2019, 03:32 AM) *
Planet must be near a black hole or something (or maybe we are?): They actually kept the "deadline" for the update:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/all

Really nothing more than a "things are progressing more or less according to plan", but that in it self is quite positive... tongue.gif

The pouch has a holder for a stylus... I wonder if there will be an official stylus from Planet? Love the new site layout too.

Varti

Yeah, I could have been a bit more "positive" about the previous update, but other than the pouch, the "new" perks were actually just "recycled" from the Gemini...

But now update 27 is out, and THIS time it really is a "things are progressing more or less according to plan"-update. And I believe it was on time, AGAIN!:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/updates/all

Which should mean people should start to receive their Cosmo's soon???

Posted by: Varti Sep 26 2019, 11:20 PM

Very good news... reminds me of the "first Geminis produced" update a year and half ago smile.gif And yes, I guess we can all be more positive now.

Varti

Posted by: Daniel W Sep 27 2019, 08:08 AM

QUOTE(Varti @ Sep 27 2019, 09:20 AM) *
Very good news... reminds me of the "first Geminis produced" update a year and half ago smile.gif And yes, I guess we can all be more positive now.
Yes, Gemini update #45, from Thursday, February 1, 2018, said "final assembly of Gemini started today". The earliest post on OESF from a user who received their Gemini, says it arrived on Thursday, March 1, 2018. Presuming Cosmo update #27 was written late on Thursday, September 26, 2019, in London, its "final assembly of Cosmo started yesterday" could refer to Wednesday, September 25. Four weeks after that would be Wednesday October 23. Last time, it took a few more weeks before all early backers had received their Geminis. Should that pattern repeat, some early backers may have to wait until November. However, as Planet Computers has previously stated that deliveries to Europe will be shipped via the UK, it remains to be seen whether the end of October might somehow influence their priorities.

Posted by: Varti Sep 30 2019, 06:44 AM

Higher res versions of some of the photos from the chinese factory have been published on the Gemini PDA Telegram channel by one of its admins, I'm attaching them here with permission. Also, a chinese-speaking user has found an interesting info from the first photo: at the time the shoot was taken they were producing 300 units per hour. Planet has stated that 4000 units will be produced in the first batch, so they might well have finished manufacturing them by now. Just in time too, since a national holiday will start tomorrow in China (National Day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Day_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China), which will last for 3 days, but most people will probably stay at home on next Friday too for the weekend.

Varti





Posted by: ArchiMark Sep 30 2019, 10:45 AM

Thanks, Varti!

Think I see my Cosmo.....

smile.gif


Mark

Posted by: AGdesigns-NL Oct 4 2019, 02:06 AM

Not sure where to put it but found a review of the device from 2 oct.

https://bigtechquestion.com/2019/10/03/review/cosmo-communicator-review/


Quote from website:

The first batch of devices literally rolled off the production floor in China last week, and naturally the Indiegogo backers will get theirs first. And due to a whole week of Chinese holidays, nothing is happening this week so it will be next week before Planet starts shipping those first units.

That means you'll probably be waiting until late November before yours will arrive, if you ordered now. I hope to get a review unit within a couple of weeks, and will update this review then.


(i "ordered" the Cosmo via Planet itself some months back (because i had no credit card, but it is added to their "internal" list as igg perk)
So hopefully we will get some good news after the Chinese holidays!

Posted by: maki.jouni Oct 4 2019, 09:56 AM

Another link for review from "other side"

https://jmcomms.com/2019/10/04/hands-on-with-the-planet-computers-cosmo-communicator-virtually-ready-to-ship-to-original-backers/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

And there is also teaser from Planet Computers, new update is comming...

Posted by: donc Oct 4 2019, 10:46 AM

QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Oct 4 2019, 06:56 PM) *
Another link for review from "other side"

https://jmcomms.com/2019/10/04/hands-on-with-the-planet-computers-cosmo-communicator-virtually-ready-to-ship-to-original-backers/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

And there is also teaser from Planet Computers, new update is comming...


Thanks for this review link, particularly like the sound of 'added functionality' for the USB-C ports and the 'support for an external hub with simultaneous charging'! Can't wait to have a Cosmo in my hand!

Posted by: maki.jouni Oct 4 2019, 10:50 AM

And by short googling, another...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/04/planet_launches_cosmo_communicator_phone_with_real_keyboard_android_or_linux/

Posted by: Vistaus Oct 4 2019, 02:02 PM

New update over the weekend, according to PC! smile.gif

Posted by: Daniel W Oct 6 2019, 02:56 PM

QUOTE(Vistaus @ Oct 5 2019, 12:02 AM) *
New update over the weekend, according to PC! smile.gif

Out now...

...we miscalculated the extent to which the China National Day celebration would disrupt our plans. This year, there was a 7 day celebration period. As well as he production pause this past week, there was no possibility of shipping any units out of the factory during last week, as the freight services were also halted. Our CTO and our staff on the ground in China tried their hardest, but it was really impossible. Production and packaging will now restart in a couple of days and we now hope to have the first Cosmo perks reaching our warehouse in Hong Kong and be shipped out to backers during this week.

Posted by: bluetooth Oct 10 2019, 07:10 AM

According to IndieGoGo discussion, at least one backer has now received Cosmo!

Posted by: smapmap Oct 10 2019, 07:50 AM

Very exciting. Just checked my status and it's still the same. Dammit.

Posted by: DJO Oct 10 2019, 09:38 AM

QUOTE(bluetooth @ Oct 10 2019, 03:10 PM) *
According to IndieGoGo discussion, at least one backer has now received Cosmo!


No, now denied, was intended to taunt PC into a reply. Pretty dumb really

Posted by: Peetz0r Oct 11 2019, 03:32 AM


So they are shipping right now?!

I wonder how many they can ship every day? How many working days left until #3999 (yes I am a very late backer)?

I hope some of my questions will be answered later today in the promised update...

Posted by: maki.jouni Oct 12 2019, 01:22 AM

New update published on the other side...

Posted by: Charlie Stross Oct 12 2019, 04:05 AM

QUOTE(Peetz0r @ Oct 11 2019, 12:32 PM) *

So they are shipping right now?!


Mostly it's the Japanese model that is shipping right now, according to the update. (They have a different keyboard.)

After the Japanese batch, next up is the EU/UK and standard US batch, so they should arrive in the EU in 1-2 weeks.

The final batch are the US Verizon model.

(This is down to these three versions having different motherboards.)

Posted by: rasva Oct 12 2019, 08:17 AM

I would say not "mostly", but "only". I have EU version with contribution #17 and it is not locked yet. But I am not complaining, actually I am very glad that my Cosmo will not be from the first assembly.

Posted by: Daniel W Oct 12 2019, 10:37 AM

The specific wording in update #29 was "Most of the initial shipment batch of Cosmo perks are shipping to Japan", so I guess that's where the "mostly" came from, but yes, the units currently shipping elsewhere is reasonably also of the Japanese model, presumably backed by Japanese users elsewhere in the world.

Posted by: maki.jouni Oct 12 2019, 10:41 AM

QUOTE(rasva @ Oct 12 2019, 07:17 PM) *
...EU version... ....not locked yet...


I personally think that European backers IndieGoGo contribution status will not change until Planet Computers will import European batch to their European distribution center. So I think when they import pallet of Cosmos to distribution center, then our contribution status will change and then start dispatching our Cosmos by so called last mile carries.

I'am from Finland with little bit higher contribution ID, because of backed campaign on December.

Nice to see that our campaign is already at this stage, soon our wait will be over and our friends and colleagues are asking what the h*** is that, is it new, where can I get one... etc

Posted by: MonkeyControl Oct 12 2019, 12:28 PM

Ode to touchscreen

Roses are red,
Potatoes are brown,
The touchscreen* is dead,
Cause the Cosmo's in town.

*Yes, I'm aware that the Cosmo 'also' has a touchscreen**, but you know what I mean.

**Actually two touchscreens

Posted by: drpeter Oct 12 2019, 02:20 PM

QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Oct 12 2019, 09:28 PM) *
Ode to touchscreen

Roses are red,
Potatoes are brown,
The touchscreen* is dead,
Cause the Cosmo's in town.

*Yes, I'm aware that the Cosmo 'also' has a touchscreen**, but you know what I mean.

**Actually two touchscreens


Roses are red
iPhones are white
They look pretty cool
But for typing they're sh**e

tongue.gif

Posted by: gidds Oct 14 2019, 09:25 AM

Maybe I'm just being selfish here, but given that European ones have far further to travel -- and given the uncertainties around shipping that Brexit will cause (whenever it happens -- don't blame me, I didn't vote for it...), wouldn't it be more reasonable to ship the EU Cosmos first, before they get all snarled up??

Posted by: maki.jouni Oct 14 2019, 11:02 AM

"
26 days ago Cosmo Communicator Campaign - Week 42 Update
"

"
Cosmo How-to Videos - filming tomorrow

Tomorrow we will be filming several How-To videos about the Cosmo that will act as introductory online video tutorials on how to use your Cosmo.

These will be posted on-line in a few weeks.
"

Japanese batch is shipped already and other batches should be shipped within 3 weeks. So we might be quite close to see few videos of fully functional Cosmo. Can't help myself, find myself occasionally refressing Planets Vimeo page, Nothing added yet on Vimeo...

Posted by: MonkeyControl Oct 21 2019, 11:07 PM

Little video from Charbax with The Doctor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZZ3zm3-xr8

Posted by: Daniel W Oct 22 2019, 10:38 AM

QUOTE(MonkeyControl @ Oct 22 2019, 09:07 AM) *
Little video from Charbax with The Doctor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZZ3zm3-xr8
Thank you! This is as good an update, as the official e-mails. [Edit: Quite a bit better, actually]. Some highlights:

At around 3:10 Dr. Janko says "We will have the phone out completely to everybody... before twelve months". As the crowdfunding begun on Monday, November 5 2018, that would leave only two weeks. The crowdfunding ended on Thursday, December 6. If that's what he's referring to, every single backer should have their device before Friday, December 6 2019.

At around 5:29 he says "So we hope to complete all the production by the end of this month and to ship out the units... latest in the first week of November".

At 5:46 Dr.Janko says "Today is the twenty-first", so this appears to have been recorded on Monday, October 21. He continues "we well be essentially shipping out the units in the next week and the week after that and that's it.". That should suggest they expect to be done shipping by Sunday, November 10 (as weeks seems to end on a Sunday in the UK).

[Edit: There are quite a few technical tidbits in this video too. We've probably read somewhere that the external screen has a resolution of 536 x 240 (that would fit 84% of a Series 5 screen, or 168% of a Series 3...) but there were a few other details, like the Cosmo having three antennas for good coverage, a fairly extensive demo of the external screen, apparently they are toying with decorative stickers for the Cosmo and it seems they'll have a backer meeting in London before the end of the year. Near the end, he reiterates that their current goal is to have all devices shipped by "the end of the first week of November", so that would indeed be Sunday, November 10, 2019. When they will reach their backers, will, of course, depend on various postal services.]

Posted by: Jeffers Oct 22 2019, 11:01 PM

QUOTE(gidds @ Oct 15 2019, 02:25 AM) *
Maybe I'm just being selfish here, but given that European ones have far further to travel -- and given the uncertainties around shipping that Brexit will cause (whenever it happens -- don't blame me, I didn't vote for it...), wouldn't it be more reasonable to ship the EU Cosmos first, before they get all snarled up??


You could definitely argue that way. I suspect that one reason for the JP units being prioritised is that they need to fulfil a retail order there, so are producing the retail and the indiegogo units at the same time. Delivering the retail would surely be very nice for their cashflow. It's just a hunch. Incidentally, I'm still waiting for my JP PCB version, albeit with the UK keyboard. I expect this puts me somewhere at the back of the queue.

Posted by: Zarhan Oct 23 2019, 03:59 AM

At least Brexit is apparently getting yet another extension, so no need to worry about extra customs fees or stuff like that.

Posted by: AGdesigns-NL Oct 27 2019, 03:52 AM

$2.000.000+ raised on igg

Posted by: Vistaus Oct 27 2019, 10:35 AM

New update coming before the end of the day tomorrow!

Posted by: szopin Oct 28 2019, 05:06 PM

QUOTE(Vistaus @ Oct 27 2019, 07:35 PM) *
New update coming before the end of the day tomorrow!

Looks like one more hiccup:
QUOTE
Hence, there was a pause in production early last week and no shipments of Cosmo perks since then.

Cosmo production restarted 3 days ago, on the 26th of October, using the re-supplied components.
But we're almost there

Posted by: gymbo Oct 28 2019, 05:20 PM

QUOTE(szopin @ Oct 29 2019, 03:06 AM) *
QUOTE(Vistaus @ Oct 27 2019, 07:35 PM) *
New update coming before the end of the day tomorrow!

Looks like one more hiccup:
QUOTE
Hence, there was a pause in production early last week and no shipments of Cosmo perks since then.

Cosmo production restarted 3 days ago, on the 26th of October, using the re-supplied components.
But we're almost there

Seems like it is an advantage NOT to be in the very first production run ph34r.gif blink.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Link to the update (for easy access for those not having the IGG page open in a tab constantly, like I have tongue.gif ):
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator/x/17943959#/updates/all

Posted by: smapmap Oct 29 2019, 04:02 AM

QUOTE(gymbo @ Oct 29 2019, 02:20 AM) *
QUOTE(szopin @ Oct 29 2019, 03:06 AM) *
QUOTE(Vistaus @ Oct 27 2019, 07:35 PM) *
New update coming before the end of the day tomorrow!

Looks like one more hiccup:
QUOTE
Hence, there was a pause in production early last week and no shipments of Cosmo perks since then.

Cosmo production restarted 3 days ago, on the 26th of October, using the re-supplied components.
But we're almost there

Seems like it is an advantage NOT to be in the very first production run ph34r.gif blink.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Link to the update (for easy access for those not having the IGG page open in a tab constantly, like I have tongue.gif ):
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator/x/17943959#/updates/all


I'm pleased they stopped the run. There were a few fit and finish issues with early Geminis so glad to see the focus on quality this time round. A few weeks will be worth it to get a decent Cosmo.

Posted by: Daniel W Oct 29 2019, 05:34 AM

QUOTE(gymbo @ Oct 29 2019, 02:20 AM) *
Seems like it is an advantage NOT to be in the very first production run ph34r.gif blink.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
While it was true for the X25, non-e-sim, keyboard challenged first-batch Gemini (I still like mine), since they've been checking quality quite a bit more thoroughly this time, I would presume they haven't been letting early Cosmos through with dodgy components, but rather found the rejection rate of some of them to be so high that, in order to not run out of stock, they either would have had to accept parts that weren't quite up to spec, or order more and wait for them. Apparently, they chose the latter, which I think was the right choice.

While a six-month project running six months late, cannot be okay by any metric, doing things right is far more important than trying to save a few days. When it ran late, they tried rushing the Gemini, at the expense of quality. At least, it seems they're not repeating THAT mistake again, but before even considering a third device, I think they need to get to the bottom of these delays. If nothing else, they may have to humbly accept that a project like this takes about one year, and plan any future crowdfunding accordingly.

Posted by: jakfish Oct 29 2019, 11:20 AM

Yes, I don't have a problem waiting, either, and can only hope that Daniel W is right, that the problem was intermittent and easy-to-spot and our Japanese friends didn't get screwed.

Jake

Posted by: szopin Nov 3 2019, 03:01 PM

Looks like contributions are finally getting locked, so far this one seems highest:

QUOTE
Alan Wise 2 hours ago

I’m a Canadian backer with # in the 700s’, now showing locked. Awesome ?

Posted by: SNi Nov 3 2019, 05:02 PM

428 from November 5th, 2018 locked, so may get by first anniversary...

SNi



 

Posted by: donc Nov 3 2019, 11:09 PM

Just checked and my shipping address has been locked. Hopefully this means UK/EU Cosmos will be shipped out soon...

Posted by: gidds Nov 5 2019, 04:16 AM

QUOTE(donc @ Nov 4 2019, 08:09 AM) *
Just checked and my shipping address has been locked. Hopefully this means UK/EU Cosmos will be shipped out soon...

Mine (#623, UK) is still at ‘Contribution Placed’, so don't hold your breath.

Posted by: Zarhan Nov 6 2019, 11:20 AM

Does anyone have idea what courier service they are going to use for shipping?

Finnish postal workers are going on strike starting next week and it'll probably last at least 2 weeks....so hope it's not via post at least.

Posted by: smapmap Nov 6 2019, 12:02 PM

is there a prize for the first person outside Japan to get their Cosmo? smile.gif

I've been locked since Sunday - no cigar yet I'm afraid!

Posted by: SNi Nov 7 2019, 08:03 AM

Received UPS tracking number. According to that my Cosmo in transit from Chek Lap Kok, HK with delivery due by end of day tomorrow...

QUOTE(SNi @ Nov 3 2019, 05:02 PM) *
428 from November 5th, 2018 locked, so may get by first anniversary...

SNi


Posted by: maki.jouni Nov 7 2019, 11:44 AM

QUOTE(SNi @ Nov 7 2019, 06:03 PM) *
Received UPS tracking number.....


That's a relief that you are receiving Cosmo by UPS. In Finland regional postal office is starting strike, worst case scenario for strike is about two weeks. And after that it will took a while until flow of packet will normalized again.

Posted by: Grench Nov 7 2019, 12:13 PM

QUOTE(SNi @ Nov 7 2019, 11:03 AM) *
Received UPS tracking number. According to that my Cosmo in transit from Chek Lap Kok, HK with delivery due by end of day tomorrow...

QUOTE(SNi @ Nov 3 2019, 05:02 PM) *
428 from November 5th, 2018 locked, so may get by first anniversary...

SNi



Same here. Order 7xx. They seem to be moving right through the orders now.

Posted by: pdtpoet Nov 7 2019, 12:53 PM

I'm number 329, in the United States (New York, about 30 miles north of New York City). My Cosmo (AT&T) is supposed to arrive on November 8 (tomorrow) via UPS

Posted by: Grench Nov 7 2019, 04:02 PM

QUOTE(Grench @ Nov 7 2019, 03:13 PM) *
QUOTE(SNi @ Nov 7 2019, 11:03 AM) *
Received UPS tracking number. According to that my Cosmo in transit from Chek Lap Kok, HK with delivery due by end of day tomorrow...

QUOTE(SNi @ Nov 3 2019, 05:02 PM) *
428 from November 5th, 2018 locked, so may get by first anniversary...

SNi



Same here. Order 7xx. They seem to be moving right through the orders now.


And mine is already showing up as being in Anchorage Alaska. Tomorrow evening arrival might be a real possibility.

Posted by: maki.jouni Nov 8 2019, 06:11 AM

New how to videos published on youtube by Planet Computers....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb4wHvRzFXU

Edit: Looks like they deleted first video which was 2nd how to.... Now another video....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcyoYeqdLT0

Edit: And now there is five how-to videos on Planet YouTube channel...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw0IBKypy7OP_e4LwZTZAkA

Posted by: SNi Nov 8 2019, 10:57 AM

QUOTE(SNi @ Nov 7 2019, 08:03 AM) *
Received UPS tracking number. According to that my Cosmo in transit from Chek Lap Kok, HK with delivery due by end of day tomorrow...

QUOTE(SNi @ Nov 3 2019, 05:02 PM) *
428 from November 5th, 2018 locked, so may get by first anniversary...

SNi



Delivered, unboxed, have it charging... Gah, have to go exchange my MicroSIM for a NanoSIM...



 

Posted by: jakfish Nov 8 2019, 12:21 PM

Hey, many thanks, SNi, for those pix of comparison, etc.

What's your initial opinion of the hinge?

Also, when watching the How to Use the Front screen video, I couldn't tell if users could access their contacts to dial out, or whether you had to dial from keypad only. Might you have an answer for that?

Thanks again,
Jake

Posted by: maki.jouni Nov 8 2019, 12:26 PM

Update #31 on IndieGoGo

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator/x/19951862#/updates/all

Posted by: maki.jouni Nov 8 2019, 12:45 PM

Normally Santa will leave on December 24th. From Elf Shop from Korvatunturi

This year, Santa will leave warehouse from Hong Kong on 11.11.

Posted by: Daniel W Nov 8 2019, 02:40 PM

QUOTE(SNi @ Nov 8 2019, 07:57 PM) *
Delivered, unboxed, have it charging... Gah, have to go exchange my MicroSIM for a NanoSIM...
Congratulations. While I nowadays happens to own a SIM card punch, I've had success in the past cutting down a MicroSIM to a NanoSIM, following this guide https://gosoftworks.com/apps/resources/nano-sim/nanosima4.pdf when I went from a (non-Planet) smartphone to another. It might be worth noting that while the larger SIM sizes are 0.76mm thick, a NanoSIM is supposed to be 0.67mm. For my other smartphone, it fit nicely without altering the thickness, but, formally, one should sand it down by 0.09mm.

Posted by: pdtpoet Nov 8 2019, 02:58 PM

QUOTE(pdtpoet @ Nov 7 2019, 04:53 PM) *
I'm number 329, in the United States (New York, about 30 miles north of New York City). My Cosmo (AT&T) is supposed to arrive on November 8 (tomorrow) via UPS



Just received my Cosmo - looking forward to the adventure.

pdtpoet

Posted by: SNi Nov 8 2019, 03:07 PM

QUOTE(jakfish @ Nov 8 2019, 12:21 PM) *
Hey, many thanks, SNi, for those pix of comparison, etc.

What's your initial opinion of the hinge?

Also, when watching the How to Use the Front screen video, I couldn't tell if users could access their contacts to dial out, or whether you had to dial from keypad only. Might you have an answer for that?

Thanks again,
Jake

Hinge seems solid, but then I never had any issues with my Gemini... On the front screen when calling you can touch the contact icon and get a list... Scroll through and pick a person, or touch an AZ icon to pull up the alphabet to select a letter and jump to the corresponding contacts...

Hmm, left swipe I get the main menu icons, but when I pick the phone icon it's a little on the iffy side - sometimes nothing happens (I'm tapping the phone icon) and after a period of time the menu disappears... Tried it a couple of dozen times, perhaps 75% success rate sad.gif

Posted by: shinkamui Nov 8 2019, 10:15 PM

Received my cosmo today. Accessories were included even though that contribution is still in placed status and not locked or shipped. The unit is fantastic. An upgrade in every regard. It feels faster, the keyboard has no sticking points, and the backlight is a huge welcome addition. The front screen is also much smoother and more responsive than the videos up until now suggested. The absence of android 9 gesture navigation is a slight sore spot, and the autodimming is still too conservative. My only other real gripe ootb is that ledison emulation doesn't seem to do anything, though i haven't done thorough testing. Ill reserve further judgement for the 48 hour mark, but I'm happy with the upgrade and feel the money was very well spent at this moment. The make or break for me is ultimately going to rest with OtherOS support, so here's hoping we at least get gemian, kali, and I pray a dalvik enabled sailfish.

Posted by: Vistaus Nov 9 2019, 02:40 AM

@shinkamui One of PC's earlier test videos showed an option to disable the nav buttons in the Cosmo settings app. Normally on Android (9/10) that enables gesture navigation. Try that smile.gif

Posted by: jakfish Nov 9 2019, 06:39 AM

@SNi--thanks for your follow-up. Glad to hear about the Contacts access on the front screen. Concerned that you're having difficulties working some of the icons.

I wonder what's going on?

Fingers crossed for better news,
Jake

Posted by: shinkamui Nov 9 2019, 11:47 AM

QUOTE(Vistaus @ Nov 9 2019, 05:40 AM) *
@shinkamui One of PC's earlier test videos showed an option to disable the nav buttons in the Cosmo settings app. Normally on Android (9/10) that enables gesture navigation. Try that smile.gif


I could be doing it wrong. The only option I saw was hide navigation bar, and it definitely didn't enable gestures. Just forced me to navigate with the keyboard which is actually worse for my use case smile.gif Can you point me to the video in question?

Posted by: Vistaus Nov 9 2019, 02:23 PM

In that case you're going to have to wait until root becomes available to force enable gestures.

Posted by: shinkamui Nov 10 2019, 09:28 AM

QUOTE(Vistaus @ Nov 9 2019, 05:23 PM) *
In that case you're going to have to wait until root becomes available to force enable gestures.



Well thats a bummer. There are also quite a few little bugs that need addressing. Im definitely looking forward to the firmware dumps to begin.

Posted by: Ifanafi Nov 11 2019, 10:37 AM

Surprised by UPS email advising delivery Nov. 8th.
Cosmo (perk backer 80#) received Friday evening, the 8th.

Frankly, I am underwhelmed by it.
Perhaps I will, in time, explain why that is....

BTW, some thin-skinned, shite-head and self-appointed moderator? protector? of Planet has (again) blocked my commenting access to the Cosmo Indiegogo page.

So, I cannot post there.

Cheers.

Ifanafi

Posted by: maki.jouni Nov 14 2019, 12:08 PM

New teaser on IndieGoGo

"
Planet Computers 1 hour ago

Stay tuned…. The next Cosmo backer update will be posted end of day tomorrow!
"

Posted by: ArchiMark Nov 14 2019, 12:10 PM

QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Nov 14 2019, 12:08 PM) *
New teaser on IndieGoGo

"
Planet Computers 1 hour ago

Stay tuned…. The next Cosmo backer update will be posted end of day tomorrow!
"



I'm guessing they will say that all the backer units have produced.....

My order was locked the other day....now awaiting shipping info email....

smile.gif

Posted by: maki.jouni Nov 14 2019, 12:30 PM

QUOTE(ArchiMark @ Nov 14 2019, 10:10 PM) *
QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Nov 14 2019, 12:08 PM) *
New teaser on IndieGoGo

"
Planet Computers 1 hour ago

Stay tuned…. The next Cosmo backer update will be posted end of day tomorrow!
"



I'm guessing they will say that all the backer units have produced.....

My order was locked the other day....now awaiting shipping info email....

smile.gif


There were also this quotation on IndieGoGo by HIB. So end of day tommorrow....

“Stock for some of the Cosmo orders has been allocated, even if it still in transit to the warehouse in Europe which will process our European orders. As Europe is home to most of our regional keyboard layouts, our factory prefers to manufacture the larger quantities first – US / Japanese keyboard units. Some of the regional layouts have been made, hence why some orders were locked. We expect to fulfil most perks by the end of November to early-December.”

Posted by: Jeffers Nov 15 2019, 12:32 AM

I seem to recall that during the Gemini campaign, backers found nuggets of information using other outlets like Facebook.

It's so good to see that PC has learned from their mistakes and for Cosmo has prioritised keeping backers updated using the campaign platform itself....no wait...

Posted by: Daniel W Nov 15 2019, 04:52 PM

Update #32 out now

The European shipment was stuck awaiting freight documents. It will reach the EU in the weekend, so they hope to ship out the first EU Cosmos to backers during next week. They've had more quality control issues than they expected, so they're only a bit past halfway through the run, scheduled to be done four days ago, but well, they're making progress. Also, there are a few new Cosmo Communicator How-To Videos.

Posted by: maki.jouni Nov 16 2019, 11:17 AM

There were link posted on IndieGoGo about review of Cosmo

https://www.docdroid.net/tmmYMQU/pc-pro-cosmo-communicator-review.pdf

Posted by: Daniel W Nov 16 2019, 01:07 PM

QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Nov 16 2019, 08:17 PM) *
There were link posted on IndieGoGo about review of Cosmo
Nice review, though I don't think the Psion Series 5 had a better keyboard. On both of my units, I had to hit the keys firmly and dead-center to get a consistent typing experience, so I prefer the Gemini over the Psion, and thus I have high hopes for the Cosmo keyboard.

Anyway, since this "Indiegogo" thread has become "latest Cosmo Coverage on any platform", here's any unboxing video the YouTube algorithm threw my way today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p3DgWdjQYA
It's purely an unboxing, followed by showing a powered OFF Cosmo - serial number [prefix]000014, it seems - from, basically, every angle. Oh, well. There's also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVBxVVw85LM
It shows some supposed Cosmo accessories (the usual hub, HDMI adapter and extra charger). Their boxes says "Gemini", which might be how things are right now, but then the reviewer shoved the Cosmo into a Gemini leather pouch (and, somewhat later, also identified it as such), seemingly unaware of the Cosmo-specific pouch. Not sure the latter video is worth watching, but, well, it's a 50-subscriber channel. Gotta start somewhere.

Posted by: gymbo Nov 16 2019, 01:58 PM

QUOTE(Daniel W @ Nov 16 2019, 11:07 PM) *
QUOTE(maki.jouni @ Nov 16 2019, 08:17 PM) *
There were link posted on IndieGoGo about review of Cosmo
Nice review, though I don't think the Psion Series 5 had a better keyboard. On both of my units, I had to hit the keys firmly and dead-center to get a consistent typing experience, so I prefer the Gemini over the Psion, and thus I have high hopes for the Cosmo keyboard.

Anyway, since this "Indiegogo" thread has become "latest Cosmo Coverage on any platform", here's any unboxing video the YouTube algorithm threw my way today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p3DgWdjQYA
It's purely an unboxing, followed by showing a powered OFF Cosmo - serial number [prefix]000014, it seems - from, basically, every angle. Oh, well. There's also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p3DgWdjQYA
It shows some supposed Cosmo accessories (the usual hub, HDMI adapter and extra charger). Their boxes says "Gemini", which might be how things are right now, but then the reviewer shoved the Cosmo into a Gemini leather pouch (and, somewhat later, also identified it as such), seemingly unaware of the Cosmo-specific pouch. Not sure the latter video is worth watching, but, well, it's a 50-subscriber channel. Gotta start somewhere.

Ehm, it's the same link twice...??

Posted by: Daniel W Nov 16 2019, 03:34 PM

QUOTE(gymbo @ Nov 16 2019, 10:58 PM) *
Ehm, it's the same link twice...??
Oops, wrong thing on clipboard error. Fixed now. Thanks for spotting it.

Posted by: gidds Nov 18 2019, 01:13 AM

QUOTE(Daniel W @ Nov 16 2019, 09:07 PM) *
I don't think the Psion Series 5 had a better keyboard. On both of my units, I had to hit the keys firmly and dead-center to get a consistent typing experience, so I prefer the Gemini over the Psion, and thus I have high hopes for the Cosmo keyboard.


Psion 5 keyboards varied a little. I used about 6 over the years, but for me, ALL were better than the Gemini I'm typing this on! (Though I think they vary a bit, too; mine's a second-batch one.) The Gemini's keys are slightly too loose, and wobble too much; they're fairly forgiving of being pressed off-centre sideways, but less so of being pressed above or below, especially below. (The space bar gives me particular trouble, though quite a few other keypresses fail to register.)

OTOH, the Psion keyboard is a very high bar; the Gemini's still better than any other small keyboard I've seen! And I gather Planet have made improvements, so I'm hopeful about the Cosmo.

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