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Posted by: dz Sep 20 2004, 02:18 PM

Ok, so as I'm making the new ZSI, I was wondering if everyone is ok with the ZSI name or if we should maybe make a new one?

zsi.org is taken. I'm assuming we can still get zaurussoftwareindex.org, but that's rather long. Any other ideas for a name/domain?

Posted by: omro Sep 20 2004, 03:04 PM

Is it intended entirely just for Zaurii or for other embedded linux device owners to use as a central place to find apps that will run on their devices as well?

If the former, then something with Zaurus in the title makes sense.
If the latter, then something more generic would make more sense.

Posted by: r0bin Sep 20 2004, 03:14 PM

zaurusindex.org

or

embeddedapps.org or somethin

if your looking for hosting i just bought some reseller hosting, (free sites = publicity <3)

Posted by: dhns Sep 20 2004, 03:42 PM

Some ideas:

zaurusversiontracker.org (could conflict with versiontracker.com and is a little long)
zaurus-software.org (.net?)
z-soft.org or .net

Posted by: freizugheit Sep 20 2004, 11:20 PM

How about zsp.org for Zaurus Surfers' Paradise.

Posted by: omro Sep 20 2004, 11:39 PM

Following up on my earlier post, I definitely think it should be more generic in name, not mentioning Zaurus at all, and concentrate on being the future repository of all linux embedded apps, be they for the Zaurus, Yopy, etc and all the hopefully future devices to come, which might not have Zaurus branding, as they probably won't be from Sharp.

A link from the ZUG to it, should be enough to get the Zaurus users to go there, regardless of the name of it.

Posted by: Hrw Sep 21 2004, 12:25 AM

It should be more general - OpenZaurus 3.5.1 is released, Familiar 0.8 will be released, OpenSimpad 0.9 etc.. - all builded using OpenEmbedded so packages nearly same (some have misc changes for MACHINE).

Creating "Zaurus only" site can 'kill' it in some time - making it more general (with info which distro has it, for which machine it is etc) will get more users to it.

Posted by: jamesm Sep 21 2004, 02:32 AM

embeddedapps seems like the best bet so far, nice work r0bin smile.gif

Posted by: coolass Sep 21 2004, 05:25 AM

cool.gif LHE (Linux handheld Embedded) LHE.org Since linux is the core platform and it's targeted primarily for handheld devices,Simpad included, and the odvious it's embedded. One more thought is LEHA short for Linux Embedded Handheld Applications. cool.gif

Posted by: dhns Sep 21 2004, 05:54 AM

QUOTE(coolass @ Sep 21 2004, 02:25 PM)
One more thought is LEHA short for Linux Embedded Handheld Applications.

LeHAT = Linux Embedded Handheld Application Tracker

... a pun on RedHat.

-- hns

Posted by: coolass Sep 21 2004, 05:57 AM

QUOTE(dhns @ Sep 21 2004, 08:54 AM)
QUOTE(coolass @ Sep 21 2004, 02:25 PM)
One more thought is LEHA short for Linux Embedded Handheld Applications.

LeHAT = Linux Embedded Handheld Application Tracker

... a pun on RedHat.

-- hns

NIce one. Hey BTW I'm sending you a P.M.

Posted by: technojunkie Sep 22 2004, 09:24 AM

I would go for something like the LHE idea then set up common and machine specific feeds.

Posted by: r0bin Sep 22 2004, 09:26 AM

If it was embeddedapps then you could also offer other software for different embedded devices on the site. I dont know wether he wants to do a linux only site, or a zaurus only site, but embeddedapps is the most generic term i can think of lol.

Posted by: dz Sep 22 2004, 04:05 PM

Ok, so what you guys are proposing is to have a site that's much more than just a ZSI. You want a site that's a repository for all things embedded?

That's interesting, and definately possible. Would I need to ask what kind of PDA a certain software is made for than when you enter it into the DB, or does that not matter as long as you're using the same os?

Posted by: zack Sep 22 2004, 04:13 PM

How about ZVault or ZaurusVault?

Posted by: freizugheit Sep 22 2004, 05:55 PM

How about Linux Embedded Devices?

Posted by: jamesm Sep 23 2004, 03:26 AM

QUOTE(dz @ Sep 23 2004, 01:05 AM)
Ok, so what you guys are proposing is to have a site that's much more than just a ZSI.  You want a site that's a repository for all things embedded?

That's interesting, and definately possible.  Would I need to ask what kind of PDA a certain software is made for than when you enter it into the DB, or does that not matter as long as you're using the same os?

I think perhaps the ability for the software developer to be able to specify which handhelds it was designed for/was tested for would be an advantage.

Posted by: ludovicus Nov 9 2004, 02:07 AM

hmm, how bout a mapping a bunch of names, and put up the results in a poll.

my 2cents
generally speaking "branding" and the internet usually follow 2 simple rules.
1. try to limit your brand to 2 syllables
2. limit the number of constanents to an absolute minimum.
exception is if your name needs to be big, but you use an acronym.

we know it's linux so how about using penguin zoology> rookery, nest,

types of penguins, King, Gentoo(taken), little blue penguin?lbp(smallest penguin?)

movie theme angle:
How about a penguin that looks like yoda? Zoda, Software for zaurus, i have!hmm, hmm

non z names
Emsource
emdb
emfeed
moembed
uniteos
pimpware
Motusembd

random names
Uberdb
zoftware
zware
Zipk

howabout names that have nothing to do with linux/software/computers
roninblade
butterkicks
sweetpacket
minibig
quikfix
buzzkila
size1
sikred
nuhit(newhit)
bluelimit
tastyburger
icechili
veggiemeat

any animals anybody identifies with?
bull
penguin(obvious)
tiger
monkey
sapien

motto?
peace
lu

ps. this is, if there is was a reason to have a zug meeting. or call it a zug party near you. Unless this is a private venture, please excuse my enthusiasm. libations tend to motivate creativity.

Posted by: _Psycho Nov 9 2004, 06:54 AM

QUOTE(dz @ Sep 22 2004, 07:05 PM)
Ok, so what you guys are proposing is to have a site that's much more than just a ZSI.  You want a site that's a repository for all things embedded?

That's interesting, and definately possible.  Would I need to ask what kind of PDA a certain software is made for than when you enter it into the DB, or does that not matter as long as you're using the same os?

dz yo might want to do a sub categories then something like:
manufacturer -> sub model

sharp -> Select models (SL-6000, CL-3000)
HP -> H6300
Yopy - YP3700
Simpad - xxxx

So peoples could select in search
'I want apps for HP devices, for familiar'
'I want apps for CL-3000 for openzaurus'
'I want apps for SL-5000 for Sharp Rom and cacko ROM'

Well soemthing like that I guess, except if someone see better than the 'manufacturer'.


For the domain name i dont know, I like vault (ZVault that someone said). Maybe thats could be like EVault (sure is taken) or LEVault (Linux Embedded Vault).
LESoft.org. LHEsoft, LHEVault whatver is not 'bad'

Posted by: raybert Nov 9 2004, 02:54 PM

back to the original topic for a moment...

I like ZUGSI

(Zaurus User Group Software Index; pronounced ZUG-see)

The domain is available too (with all TLDs): www.zugsi.com

~ray

Posted by: dz Nov 9 2004, 03:16 PM

Psycho: that feature is already built in smile.gif When a user registers an account, they will be able to chose their base model. Then they will have the option of either red-lighting each software that's not meant for their model, or just flat out not showing any software not meant.

Posted by: offroadgeek Nov 9 2004, 05:27 PM

QUOTE(raybert @ Nov 9 2004, 03:54 PM)
back to the original topic for a moment...

I like  ZUGSI

(Zaurus User Group Software Index; pronounced ZUG-see)

The domain is available too (with all TLDs): www.zugsi.com

~ray

actually, dz and I have been talking to sven (owner/creator of the original zsi) and he's agreed to let us put the new zsi2 site where the current zsi lives...basically replace the zsi with zsi2.

this is great news, because the current zsi is already well known and bookmarked.

thanks for the great suggestion though!!!

Posted by: _Psycho Nov 10 2004, 06:40 AM

thats, or a simple mirror, mirror can be good if 1 site goes down smile.gif

Posted by: offroadgeek Nov 10 2004, 12:59 PM

definitely mirroring is a good thing...

back to the name... dz and I were chatting last night... and I think it's agreed that the site name shouldn't have the name "zaurus" in it. the goal of the site is to start with zaurus apps/roms, then grow into a bigger embedded linux site.

sven had came up with the name 'embedded linux software index' a while ago, but unfortunately elsi.org is taken.

I know that the domain name isn't everything, but we're trying to brand this site, as it will eventually be a part of the overall non-profit organization.

that said, many of the domain names for the names suggested have been taken, but I think these two are still available:

embeddedapps.org
lehat.org

any more thoughts on these two names? any other name suggestions?

thanks all!

Posted by: zenyatta Nov 16 2004, 04:43 AM

How about

zaurusgoodies
handheldgoodies
hanheldlinuxgoodies
hlgoodies
hungrypenguin
stuffyourzaurus (just kidding)
eldorado (Embedded Linux dorado - call me whacky)
ipkheaven
ipkindex

Regarding "eldorado", the Spanish article "el" can be used with any noun of the male genus so the possibilities are wider.

My personal favourite is hungrypenguin: my Zaurus always seems to be begging for new applications & capabilities wink.gif

z.

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