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irukandji
post Oct 23 2019, 10:04 PM
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http://retro-computers.co.uk/where-are-the...o-mrsic-flogel/

Has anyone actually seen Cosmo?

I would imagine it is not very hard to pay a few "influencers" to do some fake reviews, images etc. and to me cosmo looks like you would take apart cheap
smartphone and one non smart, do some chasis and put both together into same casing. Due to the fact that there is some place left on left and right side of
display, i doubt there is some real meat under the keyboard. And if nothing else you can still put some external keyboard into lower chasis.

I will be really sorry if this is a scam, not so much about the money but due to the fact that I would really love to have such device.
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Zarhan
post Oct 23 2019, 11:20 PM
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If it's a scam, then this video is a very well made one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZZ3zm3-xr8

For me, the key reason I paid for Cosmo is essentially due to the fact that Gemini PDA is a real thing (I've seen it it use, but didn't obtain one since I wanted the phone stuff to be there as well).

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post Oct 24 2019, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(Zarhan @ Oct 24 2019, 09:20 AM) *
If it's a scam, then this video is a very well made one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZZ3zm3-xr8

For me, the key reason I paid for Cosmo is essentially due to the fact that Gemini PDA is a real thing (I've seen it it use, but didn't obtain one since I wanted the phone stuff to be there as well).


Well, I bought it from same reason, but now I am getting worried. I am well familiar with situation in Croatia and based on the article (http://www.retro-computers.co.uk/janko-mrsic-flogel/):

"Janko's father, Zdravko Mrsic, was one of few men in charge when Croatia was born (1990-91). As a member of the HDZ party ("Croatian Democratic Union") close to the president Franjo Tu?man, he became the 1st Minister of Foreign Affairs."

HDZ party had pushed the Croatia into f* up state as it is now and has robbed country ownership trough wild privatizations and so on. It has also created a toxic atmosphere with all neighbour countries where
Croatia is in conflict with every one of them. For sure his family has some nasty history behind it. And based to that site, I can see the apple doesnt fall far for the tree although I recognize that
the site might be biased as it was created from bunch of pissed off people. Maybe it was just bussiness went bad and people interpret it as a scam. But still... worried.
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Charlie Stross
post Oct 24 2019, 03:20 AM
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I backed the Gemini and it shipped. It's sitting on my desk next to me.

I will note that Planet Computers' communications and updates were just as bad during that campaign as they are now with the Cosmo. Also, the Gemini arrived about 9 months late, if I remember correctly. The Cosmo, going by the progress updates, is coming along faster: it looks likely to be only 6-7 months late. Not surprising, as it's essentially an updated Gemini with extra bits added (new keyboard, upgraded chipset, and the external screen/camera/fingerprint reader).

As for the recent silence ...

At about this stage in the Gemini release, initial assembly and packing had been completed. Then the first batch of a thousand or so Geminis spent a week or so being processed through warehouses before finally making it onto a flight to the UK. Then they spent another week getting cleared by Customs, before being shipped out to customers. It was a rather tense wait because, with nothing to report, Planet "went dark" on the Indiegogo campaign page. (They really need better communications!)

But no, this isn't a long con. If it was, the time for the bust-out passed about 18 months ago when the Gemini was the product.
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post Oct 24 2019, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(Charlie Stross @ Oct 24 2019, 06:20 AM) *
I backed the Gemini and it shipped. It's sitting on my desk next to me.


I too use my Planet Computers Gemini daily and have had no problems whatsoever with it. I consider the Gemini to be a great example of a crowdfunding success.

No, the Cosmo is not a scam.

Whoever wrote that 'article' clearly has character assassination, not information, on their mind. Whoever is posting links to it is either the author or a witting or unwitting puppet to help spread this misinformation and FUD.
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shinkamui
post Nov 8 2019, 11:12 PM
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Definitely not a scam. My Gemini is now in a close friends hand, and the cosmo was delivered to me today, a generally excellent upgrade all around. Don't let your imagination run wild in the absence of information. Especially when your theories require extraordinary proof and you lack any trace of it.
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post Nov 10 2019, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(shinkamui @ Nov 9 2019, 02:12 AM) *
Definitely not a scam. My Gemini is now in a close friends hand, and the cosmo was delivered to me today, a generally excellent upgrade all around. Don't let your imagination run wild in the absence of information. Especially when your theories require extraordinary proof and you lack any trace of it.


Congratulations!

I too have physical proof that this is not a scam sitting on the desk next to me in the form of a Planet Computers Cosmo Communicator. So, for the FUD spreaders, consider this information double sourced.
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