Latest Version Of Maxima (5.9.1) Available

[tovarish]

Hi,

I have compiled a newer version of clisp and the latest version of maxima and it runs great. the trouble is it wont install verywell with the /opt/QtPalmtop prefix, so i have prefixed it to /usr/local/maxima. it could work with /opt/QtPalmtop but some tweaking needs to be done in the maxima script wrapper.
if you want to install it in a card then /usr/local/maxima just has to be symlinked to the directory in the card

now the problem, it is  10MB in size and i don't have anywhere to host it, help would be appreciated. need also a bit of testing (maxima users)

thanks
tovarish

[jfv]

I will be hosting the file here
please test it.

Felipe

[tg]

I have tried this but am getting setfault.

Just running the following command to start lisp segfaults:

$ ./lisp-run -M lispinit.mem

Before segfaulting the following error message appears:

./lisp.run: Symbol `PC' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking


This is on zaurus sl860 and Cacko 1.22 (latest Cacko ROM).

I installed to my SD card and made the symlink /usr/local/maxima as specified in instructions so I have no idea what the problem may be (I don't think it has anything to do with symlink since running the above command just to start list segfaults).

[tovarish]

use the maxima wrapper script to start maxima. it is there in
/usr/local/maxima/bin/maxima

it uses the lisp.run binary in the distribution itself. I dont see any reason lisp.run should segfault. it runs on my cacko 1.22 sl860.

there could be two problems. the readline that i have installed may be different from yours. the other could be that with ncurses.
the command you used was tyo start lisp and not maxima.

"/lisp.run: Symbol `PC' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking"

i get this message too but it doesnt hamper working of maxima. i will check the dependncies when i get home.

tovarish

[tg]

use the maxima wrapper script to start maxima. it is there in
/usr/local/maxima/bin/maxima

it uses the lisp.run binary in the distribution itself. I dont see any reason lisp.run should segfault. it runs on my cacko 1.22 sl860.

there could be two problems. the readline that i have installed may be different from yours. the other could be that with ncurses.
the command you used was tyo start lisp and not maxima.

"/lisp.run: Symbol `PC' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking"

i get this message too but it doesnt hamper working of maxima. i will check the dependncies when i get home.

tovarish

Thanks for your reply.
I did first start maxima wrapper but after that segfaulted I decided to see whether lisp itself would start. But that segfaulted using the command from my previous message. I also think the problem is probably ncurses or readline but have no idea why I should have different version(s) from you since we are both on Cacko 1.22 and sl860. For what is worth, I installed all my packages from cacko feed.

Here are my readline and ncurses versions:

bash():zaurus:/usr/lib# ls -l libncurses.so*
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           15 Jan  2 04:11 libncurses.so -> libncurses.so.5*
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     qpe            26 Jan 13 16:40 libncurses.so.4 -> /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5.4*
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17 Jan  2 04:11 libncurses.so.5 -> libncurses.so.5.4*
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           30 Jan  2 04:11 libncurses.so.5.4 -> /usr/lib.rom/libncurses.so.5.4*
bash():zaurus:/usr/lib# ls -l libreadline.so*
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           16 Jan  2 04:11 libreadline.so -> libreadline.so.5*
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           29 Jan  2 04:11 libreadline.so.4 -> /usr/lib.rom/libreadline.so.4*
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           18 Jan  2 04:11 libreadline.so.5 -> libreadline.so.5.0*
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           31 Jan  2 04:11 libreadline.so.5.0 -> /usr/lib.rom/libreadline.so.5.0*

[tovarish]

ok here goes some testing
first i would like you to try  to run lisp.run and Ctrl-d

[/usr/local/maxima/lib/maxima/5.9.1/binary-clisp $]./lisp.run
./lisp.run: Symbol `PC' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
  i i i i i i i       ooooo    o        ooooooo   ooooo   ooooo
  I I I I I I I      8     8   8           8     8     o  8    8
  I  \ `+' /  I      8         8           8     8        8    8
   \  `-+-'  /       8         8           8      ooooo   8oooo
    `-__|__-'        8         8           8           8  8
        |            8     o   8           8     o     8  8
  ------+------       ooooo    8oooooo  ooo8ooo   ooooo   8

Copyright © Bruno Haible, Michael Stoll 1992, 1993
Copyright © Bruno Haible, Marcus Daniels 1994-1997
Copyright © Bruno Haible, Pierpaolo Bernardi, Sam Steingold 1998
Copyright © Bruno Haible, Sam Steingold 1999-2002


WARNING: No initialization file specified.
Please try: ./lisp.run -M lispinit.mem

WARNING: No installation directory specified.
Please try: ./lisp.run -B /usr/local/lib/clisp

>
Bye.

next run  ldd ./lisp.run. this gives the following results for me

[/usr/local/maxima/lib/maxima/5.9.1/binary-clisp $]ldd ./lisp.run
        libncurses.so.5 => /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x40022000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4006e000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40079000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)

and finally the filesizes of the depended shared libraries

[/usr/local/maxima/lib/maxima/5.9.1/binary-clisp $]ls -al /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libncurses.so.5
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17 Jan  2 12:16 /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libncurses.so.5 -> libncurses.so.5.0
[/usr/local/maxima/lib/maxima/5.9.1/binary-clisp $]ls -al /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libncurses.so.5.0
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       263720 Jan 22  2002 /home/QtPalmtop/lib/libncurses.so.5.0

[/usr/local/maxima/lib/maxima/5.9.1/binary-clisp $]ls -al /lib/libdl.so.2
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 Dec 21 20:34 /lib/libdl.so.2 -> libdl-2.2.2.so
[/usr/local/maxima/lib/maxima/5.9.1/binary-clisp $]ls -al /lib/libdl-2.2.2.so
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        10176 Feb 26  2004 /lib/libdl-2.2.2.so

[/usr/local/maxima/lib/maxima/5.9.1/binary-clisp $]ls -al /lib/libc.so.6
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           13 Dec 21 20:34 /lib/libc.so.6 -> libc-2.2.2.so
[/usr/local/maxima/lib/maxima/5.9.1/binary-clisp $]ls -al /lib/libc-2.2.2.so
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root      1152468 Feb 26  2004 /lib/libc-2.2.2.so


[/usr/local/maxima/lib/maxima/5.9.1/binary-clisp $]ls -al /lib/ld-linux.so.2
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           11 Dec 21 20:34 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 -> ld-2.2.2.so
[/usr/local/maxima/lib/maxima/5.9.1/binary-clisp $]ls -al /lib/ld-2.2.2.so
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       105908 Feb 26  2004 /lib/ld-2.2.2.so


If these filesizes match then i am stumped. if not there is still hope for you . This is certainly the case as your libncurses is different from mine (5.4 vs 5.0).  I have attached my libncurses below

tovarish

[tg]

Thanks again for help. I am now stumped as well. ldd command as well as all the file sizes (after I installed your ncurses ipk) exactly match your output. But when I run ./lisp.run I still get a segmentation fault (message gets printed after lisp screen is printed and I get kicked out to bash (I don't see the core file but that is probaly another issue). In other words, I don't get the chance to type ctrl-d as you suggested as app segfaults without wanting to interact with me.
I do have one more question - did you set up a swap file on your machine? I don't really have much space left for installing packages and was reluctant to set one up until now but maybe it''s time to try that.

[tovarish]

i have a 32 mb swap file on my sd card. maybe it will help. maybe a 1 gig sd card will help

ldd shows what libs the binary will use, if all the libs match (and the os and the hardware) then there is no reason why there should be a segfault.

strangely when maxima is being run my swapfile usage is only 1802 kb and ram usage is 25957 kb so swapfile may not be the answer but then i don't preload any apps. i wish others would try it too for more feedback

another suggestion my TERM is set to xterm-new so try
export TERM=xterm-new

different terminal settings could cause segfaults.

[tg]

Sigh. I tried everything I can think of (swap file, turning off preloads of apps, different xterm setting but no matter what it segfaults). I'll probably regroup and try this again after I flash cacko next time (I anticipate I will do this when Maslovsky releases stripped down version which is what I'm really looking forward too).
I also agree, it would be nice if few others would try this package.
One suggestion to you would be to submit the package to Cacko team for inclusion into their feed. If you give them source and instructions for compiling another benefit may be that we get maxima ipk that links against all the same libs cacko uses for all other packages (ie. maybe ncurses 5.4 etc).
Thanks again for all your suggestions and help.

[tovarish]

i have already submitted to the cacko team, they have lots of apps to test so it will be a while b4 it appears on their feed.
its too bad that the only other person who tried maxima couldnt get it to work

tovarish

[clofland]

Ok, just for kicks I put Maxima on my machine and ran it.

It starts up fine, or I guess it seems to.

Only problem is, I don't know what it is supposed to do.

I'm willing to test it though. Once I get to a (%i1) prompt, what would be something useful to put in it to test it out?

Ok, I found some info on the net. Here is what I got:

$ ./maxima
/home/zaurus/Documents/maxima
  i i i i i i i       ooooo    o        ooooooo   ooooo   ooooo
  I I I I I I I      8     8   8           8     8     o  8    8
  I  \ `+' /  I      8         8           8     8        8    8
   \  `-+-'  /       8         8           8      ooooo   8oooo
    `-__|__-'        8         8           8           8  8
        |            8     o   8           8     o     8  8
  ------+------       ooooo    8oooooo  ooo8ooo   ooooo   8
 
Copyright © Bruno Haible, Michael Stoll 1992, 1993
Copyright © Bruno Haible, Marcus Daniels 1994-1997
Copyright © Bruno Haible, Pierpaolo Bernardi, Sam Steingold 1998
Copyright © Bruno Haible, Sam Steingold 1999-2003
--------------------------------------------------------------
 
Maxima 5.9.1 http://maxima.sourceforge.net
Using Lisp CLISP 2.29 (released 2002-07-25)
Distributed under the GNU Public License. See the file COPYING.
Dedicated to the memory of William Schelter.
This is a development version of Maxima. The function bug_report()
provides bug reporting information.
(%i1) integrate(1/(1+x^4),x);
                                                               2 x + SQRT(2)
           2                         2                    ATAN(-------------)
      LOG(x  + SQRT(2) x + 1)   LOG(x  - SQRT(2) x + 1)           SQRT(2)
(%o1) ----------------------- - ----------------------- + -------------------
             4 SQRT(2)                 4 SQRT(2)               2 SQRT(2)
 
                                                                 2 x - SQRT(2)
                                                            ATAN(-------------)
                                                                    SQRT(2)
                                                          + -------------------
                                                                 2 SQRT(2)
(%i2)

The cut and paste messed up the logo and the spacing of the answer. It looks better on the Z, I just didn't want to do a graphical screen shot.

Looks good though. I'm not a math buff (I got the example from a screen shot), but this looks cool & useful.

Let me know if you want me to run any other tests.

[tovarish]

yeah if you are a math buff then you could try

2^50000;

 its a good calculator

tovarish

[aki]

tovarish,
i am glad to report success running 5.9.1 on my sl-6000l with stock sharp rom.  Didn't have to do anything special, other than install the libncurses ipk you posted earlier.

I can remember running maxima 10-15 years ago -- on a $20K Sun workstation.
It is quite impressive to have it on the Z.

Good job!!!

[xjqian]

I will try to play with it after 2/8. Have Maxima running would be very useful for me to do derivertives and symbolic integration. I can forget about carrying my TI-89 around. good resources of how to make the most out of maxima would be greatly appreciated.

[stupkid]

Take a look on the website:

http://maxima.sourceforge.net/

There are docs on the site.